Gordon Duff defines “military service” for us
I’ve run into Gordon Duff’s writings occasionally on the internet. He’s about as prolific as that Jim Staro guy that TSO likes so much, and Duff is about as literate as Staro. He’s the “senior editor” of a website misnamed “Veterans Today” – it’s been my experience that Veterans Today is just another propaganda mouthpiece for the Democrat Party.
I always chalked Duff up under the “harmless crank” column and went looking for better targets. The other day, 1stCavRVN11B sent me a link to one of his columns published in a local newspaper disparaging the service of Congressman Joe Wilson thusly;
Let’s look at some of this;
Born in 1947, Wilson was prime material for the Vietnam War. After taking deferment after deferment for college and law school, in 1972, Wilson was glided into a coveted Army Reserve billet, protecting him from service in Vietnam. He quit in 1975 with the fall of Saigon and transferred to the National Guard where he was a Judge Advocate, a “lawyer.”
“Deferment after deferment” was common – every year college students had to apply for deferments from the draft. So pretty much the thousands of male college students during the Vietnam era got “deferment after deferment”. When the draft ended in 1972, “Army Reserve billets” weren’t quite so “coveted” anymore. I don’t know what Duff is trying to say mentioning the “fall of Saigon” – I guess he wants to make it seem like Wilson was hiding from the National Guard in the Reserves.
But “draft dodger”? How is Wilson a draft dodger if he got deferments? I’ll bet Duff drinks wine with real draft dodgers all of the time, given his politics.
Duff yammers on about Wilson and Lindsey Graham “double-dipping” their two federal pensions (like thousands of us who retired from the military and went to federal jobs), and how Wilson belongs to “white supremacist organizations” without naming them. Here in DC, I’ve been told that the Heritage Foundation is a white supremacist organization, so who knows what Duff considers white supremacist.
Duff continues that Wilson voted against veterans 11 times in his career. We at TAH know that’s possible and it’s a frequent trick of VoteVets and IAVA to use that tactic.
Well, even after I read that article, I still ignored Duff as being a crank…until this morning when I saw this little parcel of crap sitting on his website;
Yep, all of you veterans who went to the rally on Saturday are “the new KKK” according to Gordon Duff.
It is just like it was during the 1920s. Ignorant “white folks” scared to death of “black folks” are out on a lynching party backed by corporate money.
Yeah, I’m waiting for my check.
Most of the people I met in DC were veterans, and apparently Duff is as willing to throw them under the bus with Joe Wilson, the supposed draft dodger.
More ignorance from mud-puddle-deep intellect that is Gordon Duff;
There is only one reason all those uneducated white people are out yelling and screaming, guns left in their luggage on busses paid for by taxpayer money sucked in by the biggest pack of corporate thieves that ever bribed a congressman.
Its all about the “N” word. We are having a convention of Americans in love with the “N” word, people who use it every day, folks afraid of black people they don’t know, people easy to scare.
We are also having a convention of “male enhancement” customers and people whose anti-psychotic drugs don’t seem to be working as intended.
Did you catch that? Because all of you veterans are worried about taxes, you’re racist, have penis issues and, oh, by the way, you’re nuts. Way to make a point, Gordo. Way to support your fellow veterans. I guess we’ll all just submit our DD214s to Duff so he can tell us which of us qualify to call ourselves veterans in public.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:25 am
What a buffoon…does HE have a DD214?
September 15th, 2009 at 7:27 am
Apparently he does – we’re working on getting it.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:44 am
This moron must have grabbed the latest talking points from Soros and just cut and pasted them into this “article”.
What an idiot and POS. He can’t even figure out that there were many blacks in attendance, as well as other ethnicities. When I went to a taxpayer rally, several of the people standing beside me were people of color that are sick of the taxes they have to pay in order to fund all this bs. Were they “racist”?
September 15th, 2009 at 9:14 am
I guess I should have stayed in….I didn’t know we would get a “fat military retirement”
September 15th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Eagerly awaiting Gordo’s article on the famous draft dodger, Joe Biden.
Remember when it was Cheney it was Horrible, now that spray on hair Joe is VP suddenly mentioning Hair club for Men Joe’s same 5 gets rebukes from the left.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:25 am
I would like to see where he found Wilson claiming to be a “hard boiled combat veteran.”
September 15th, 2009 at 9:33 am
BohicaTwentyTwo,
All any leftist has to do is imagine that something MIGHT be true, and that is sufficient for them to accept it AS being true.
Idiots like Diff paint with a large brush because it’s the only tool they have. Facts are unimportant to them, as those same facts are often at odds with their storyline, and the meme is what matters to them.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Well, now I know where the expression “sitting on your Duff” originated. What an ass.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:59 am
I didn’t know I was a crazy racist with erectile disfunction until I read Gordon Duff’s article. Thanks Gordon Duff! If anyone is an expert on identifying flaccid members, it’s you Gordon. Tell the wife I said “hi”… ;o).
September 15th, 2009 at 10:59 am
When you get this guy’s DD214, you do plan on posting it here, right?
September 15th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
and what bad things has Natan Sharansky done to get on the Duff’s KKK list, for Christ’s sake??
You got to be on something really good to conjure up and write the crap like this…
September 15th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Olga,
Well, Sharansky was arrested for spying on the Soviet Union for the US and then talked badly about the gulag system. I’m sure there are many on the American Left that don’t like him.
September 15th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
I like how he says that Wilson was a JAG “lawyer” (scare quotes are his). I don’t like military lawyers much, but I wonder if this d-bag would call Joe Biden’s son a JAG “lawyer?” How about Vote Vets all star Patrick Murphy, who was just a JAG “lawyer” before going to congress?
September 15th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Pat,
I guess according to Duff, we all should also discount the service of JAG “lawyer” Michael Martinez.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Hmmm, guess this genius does not realize that the “fat” military retirement check does not kick in until age 60 for National Guard/Reserve troopers. So, Rep. Wilson only recently started receiving his duly earned retirement. Last I checked, you do not make Colonel in any branch in less than 20yrs of service.
And yes, Mr Duff, the NG is very political. Always has been, always will be. It is a state organization.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
I won’t speak for any other Viet Nam Vet, just myself. I’ll admit that at the time I enjoyed 4 years of student deferrments, and did not really want to enlist; I did it only as a way of “avoiding the draft” Enlistment did that, every time it was tried. I cannot judge why anyone else tried to avoid or delay going. Some for animal cowardice, others for hedonistic joy of the “summer of love”, still othrs out of dedication to scholarly preparation and careerism. My own reluctance was more from the second and third reasons of the above. Retrospectively, being forced to go has turned out to be the finest thing that has happened to me – at least since discovery of puberty. Since then, I have a deep contempt for draft dodgers, deserters and wannabes. And I still enjoy shaming the VVAW and IVAW weenies. But I have NEVER resented those who managed to delay or avoid service within the rules of the system as it stood. A fate I am glad I was saved from, and I feel sorry for those who did not go, not anger or resentment. And that includes Rep. Joe Wilson. He is certainly proving now that he has a pair.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
I wrote Veterans Today regarding this turd, and he himself replied, writing 8 or 10 notes, (quit counting after the first 4), all of them kool-ade stained, demonstrating that he has been afflicted with terminal, full-blown Bush Derangement Syndrome. Everyone’s wrong- he’s right sort of stuff.
Even said: “Lindsay Graham got his, (Joe Wilson) 06 slot from one of my friends. Graham is a total weenie and took the slot from a combat pilot named Steve Avery with an incredible record.”
“Learned all I need to know about Islam on 9/11?
September 15th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
They say the military is a microcosm of society (sort of). Guess it was the 28th of the month at MEPS when his useless ass showed up.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Gordon Duff works for George Soros and supports Barack Obama. He isn’t taking his meds it appears!
February 18th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Gordon Duff tells the truth, something none of you would know if it slapped you in the face.
I would imagine everyone here believes Muslims or Arabs are responsible for 9/11 and no one here has tied it to Israel.
Of course it’s common knowledge that Israel was behind 9/11 amongst the intelligence agencies of the globe. If you read Italian, German, Pakistani and Indian newspapers you’ll learn a lot more then you will reading US media. Gordon travels to these places with frequency and for that reason is better able to access the truth about the world we live in.
February 18th, 2010 at 8:27 am
No no damn it, be accurate. 9/11 was conducted by grey haired Swedish grandmothers, financed by the CIA and only trained by Mosad.
February 18th, 2010 at 8:43 am
How much actual research have you performed on 9/11? Let me guess, 100s of hours of Fox News!
February 18th, 2010 at 9:05 am
Well, mr. Prager; how much do you know about anything? You challenge others, yet provide no knowledge of your own. Put up, or STFU.
February 18th, 2010 at 9:11 am
Uh Oh, I thought you were being snarky but you actually believe this crap. Oh my.
February 18th, 2010 at 9:25 am
I see they’re trying ‘Net surfing therapy at the state home for the criminally stupid and insane this week.
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:05 pm
I’ll go with Prager on this one
“We are watching a poorly staged rendition of Wag the Dog , interpreted for the morbidly stupid and performed by the criminally insane.” – Jules Carlysle
Proof of Concept
BLACKWATER : THE CRUSADE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DpRz4CvMqo
March 3rd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Some folks here who aren’t the brightest bulbs in the pack. As soon as I think up a pithy “vet sounding” nickname, I might join this crowd.
duffster
USMC/0311
Vietnam 60/70
0311
100% combat disabled vet
March 3rd, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Don’t bother, Gordon, we’ve reached our limit of illiterate trolls. I hear Barbie.com/forums might believe your bullshit.
March 3rd, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Gordie…let me help you..1,Dash Riprock 2,Bolt Upright 3,High Velocity Projectile Interseptor 4,Self Propelled Sandbag 5,Grenade Face 6,Master Coffin Filler Upper 7,Death Angel 6 Actual 8,40 mike mike stud 9,Latrine Lizard 10,Down Range Dildo ect…..Anyone else want to help out with his cool veteran name? Thanks HSS
March 3rd, 2010 at 8:46 pm
I got a name the Drill Sergeants called me he can have…..shitbird…..
March 3rd, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Howse bout The Bung Hole Rump Ranger?
March 27th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
I’m question anything on Veterans Today site, I’m question the character of owner who is John Allen. Some people invent to hold the opinion. I just go by what they wrote there own selves. There is what I found.
January 24, 2009 Bobby Hanafin write that John Allen never served in america military. I think a writer there is Hanafin.
http://www.veteranstodayforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=865
April 25, 2009 John Allen write he isveteran of America Marine Corps.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/04/25/the-right-wing-loonies-here-are-cowards/
You cannot be any clearly then that when comes a character judgement.
April 17th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Duff is a 9/11 truther nut who tips the scales in his favor by blocking any contradicting facts or even questions on the subject, as I found out recently when I tried commenting on an article full of libelous 9/11 BS he posted on the “Veterans” Today site. I had my polite and civil comments blocked or removed, and then was attacked by him and his readers there with no means to respond. The guy’s a real pos, and my emails to the others behind that farce of a web site did no good, so they’re apparently just as corrupt and dishonest as he is. I’m a Vietnam vet, and I doubt whether any of them ever served a day in the US military. I’m also a liberal, but this guy’s a total disgrace, as is anyone who promotes or buys into 9/11 “truth movement” crap. They’re either grossly ignorant or totally dishonest, and the tactic of banning any dissent from their “forums” is something I’ve encountered on at least a dozen other sites run by these malicious, anti-American crackpots.
April 18th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
I was performing a web search on Duff and happily came across this page.I agree with you 100% on Gordon Duff’s being a rascally buffoon.
He has 86d me from posting to his rants because I question everything he says.I even went so far to report his butt for his anti-Semitic articles.
I can honestly say that I have never learned one fact in reading Duff’s crapola.It is all personal opinion and generalities.How does a 100% PTSD patient become such a key figure to all the countries,agencies and business that he claims.No fookin’ way.He is a blow hard and needs to be exposed.
Those poor ignorant people that say they agree with his rhetoric are misaligned and foolish for being led to slaughter mentally.
April 18th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Once again Gordon Duff reaches into his garbage can to pull out trash.I am still waiting to learn one fact from his prolific rhetoric.
How is it possible that a veteran with a 100% PTSD disability have such fine credentials as he posts on every article that he writes and espouses on the web at every opportunity?A Marine grunt who exhibited mental problems caused by service was more than likely a lower ranking enlisted man yet he claims to be advisers to government,business and agencies.He walks on water through the lands of war and intrigue.
He has consistently deleted anything I have to say because I speak right from the hip.And my nose is highly capable of detecting fecal matter when present.
April 18th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Adding to those above with my take on this dick drip. I once made the mistake of thinking he could be engaged in casual conversation. Typically, he didn’t hear, didn’t open my comment to readers, and replied with a mouthful of runny fecal matter. Then, when I told him to not reply to me again, he followed with a “but you need to read this,,,,,,”, and again when I told him to STFU!. Seems, as I recall, that then a reader/cohort of his, tried to run that garbage on me. I would love to see him laying on the sidewalk in the fecal position.
nuf sed
May 14th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
I’m such an idiot! I was googl-ing and came across that idiot’s “veterans” blog (before I found this one). I am reading about all this crazy stuff and I’m thinking: “how can this man be a U.S. Marine and speak of the U.S.A. this way? He was going on about how Iran is basically just sitting there minding their own business and how there are not really any Muslim Extremists who want to kill Americans…..and stating that we are all being “psy-oped” into actually believing this stuff. So I replied to him twice before I realized I was speaking to an absolute, unfiltered traitor.
If only we could get amnesty for ONE DAY to go clean that kind of garbage up once and for all. Can’t believe I actually posted on his disgusting site! Ahhhh!
May 14th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
here is a link to what i typed back to him….but I warn you reading his stuff will make your blood boil.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/05/13/gordon-duff-fox-news-analyst-claims-iran-planning-immediate-nuke-and-chemical-attacks-on-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-63852
May 29th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Duff’s writing suggests some paranoid reality. He can back up nothing he says with evidence. I believe he is funded by Al Jazeera or the UAE.
July 2nd, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Could someone define ‘Veterans Today’ and Gordon Duff for me?
With a fancy website, and ‘business’ links, and mortgages, it looks very legit.
But as soon as you read a very little of the
hate themed articles, and sycophantic replies,
you get an entirely different picture.
Like turning over a stone on the beach.
What percentage of vets does el Gordo represent
in any meaningful manner?
What are his links to political parties/organizations (KKK?)?
Who funds him and his buddies at VT, The House of Sod, IHH?
Which congressmen/senators/personalities support him?
Does VT have ANY formal links to VA, or any other
government departments or agencies, like the CIA?
Has anyone seen his real bio? It’s not available on the web,
and his link to his own bio is just empty and pathetic.
‘widestaringeyes’ and ‘Lawrence A Dickerson’, among others,
seem to have his number, but not enough to ram his head back in the sand, where it came from.
He’s not big (bigoted?) enough for Wikipedia, even though
a local twerp conspiracist anti-Jew Canadian is.
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:15 pm
This is all I could find on el Gordo. Maybe others could find more on one of those fancy library or university database of databases.
Maybe he has some ex-friends somewhere, who can tell us who the real Duff is, because they despair at his infantilism and denigration of the US, while brown-nosing mohammedans.
Wikipedia “Gordon Duff”: zero, zilch, nada, a cipher, a black hole (sorry NAACP knicker twisters).
Wikipedia “Veterans Today” Second of only six citations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_D._Siljander
In 2009, Siljander, whose daughter is currently deployed in the Middle East,[22] joined Gold Star, Mother Amy Branham[23][24] and retired Colonel James Hanke US Army Special Forces, former Military Attache to Israel under Ambassador Thomas Pinkerton, as a co-editor of Veterans Today,[25] a “progressive” online publication supporting veterans and military families. {My boldface: progressive = communist.}
El Gordo’s take: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2008/01/17/war-on-terror-goes-berzerk/