Millard explains Webb’s expulsion
A couple of our resident IVAW refugees sent me screen shots of the entire statement that Geoff (Stolen Valor) Millard wrote and posted (somewhere) on their website explaining why the board voted to expell Carl Webb. Here’s the first part;
Millard goes on to explain why they banned Casey Porter for the remainder of his lifetime for advocating for the expulsion of Webb. I guess Millard doesn’t realize that Porter taking the extreme actions that he took were necessitated by the board’s inability to take decisive action against Webb.
Millard is steeped in the mantra of “racist Americans” – if I remember correctly, his major in college was African-American studies. In his typical liberal fashion, Millard, like the Army in the case of Fort Hood murderer Major Hasan, bent over backwards to excuse Webb’s behavior based solely on Webb’s race. Um, Geoff, there are other Black members of IVAW who don’t advocate for killing our troops.
It’s as if the Little Rascals grew up and formed a club.
December 5th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
IVAW= Assmonkeys
December 5th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
And Millard is possibly the assmonkiest.
Still peeved he lied to my face at WSI. Not that it wasn’t expected, since he lies about damn near everything.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
I remember it like it was yesterday, man. Me and Carl “The Couch Warmer” Webb was tagged by The Man to take an experimental urban assault vehicle deep into Eastern Europe for a shake down run. Everything went fine until we hooked up with these two smokin’ hot MP chicks. That’s when shit got all haywire and this crazy old DI from back in basic though we had gone over the wall and was gonna give the Ruskies the RV. While Carl kinda wanted to, since he’s all hardcore with the social justice commie thing, I decided that the best way for me to finally earn that CIB was to get drunk, run off the road and have sloppy sex with a seat cushion. I’m not proud of that last part, but I blame Bush’s failed Middle East policies. FYI, if anyone has seen my copy of ‘Showgirls’, I’d like that back please.
CSM/1LT/CPL Jesse “Assman” McMillard
101st Combat Escort Bridge Signal Regimental Brigade (Mech)
St. Nicholas, Germany
December 5th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Here is some vintage Millard :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5spfPDc1EU&feature=related
Check out AWOL … the rapper … LOL what a fkng joke !!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPyTPkjJuJs&feature=related
December 5th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
dang Claymore! laughing hard, thanks bro!
December 5th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Your a$$ is mine McMillard…ain’t you ever heard of OPSEC? I’ll get you yet my pretty…
December 5th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Sean – Please don’t generalize about IVAW. Don’t judge the good with the bad – and this is not to say that Geoff is a bad dude. Most of the guys I’ve met in IVAW are veterans who don’t agree with the war(s). What’s wrong with that? If you want to call someone an “assmonkey” then call them out by name.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Assmonkey = Millard
Assmonkey = Kinne
Assmonkey = Meija
Assmonkey = Chiroux
Assmonkey = anyone who wears a shirt “Iraq Veterans Against the War” and has never stepped foot into Iraq.
Assmonkey = anyone who wears a shirt “Iraq Veterans Against the War” and hasn’t even served nor served during this Iraq War.
and lastly…. Biggest Assmonkey = Carl Webb
December 6th, 2009 at 1:12 am
Jesse, “lie down with dogs and you’ll come up with fleas.” The organization would not be nearly as assmonkeyish if they did a better job of policing themselves. Maybe make the organization more just an antiwar organization and less of an antiamerica left wing nutjob organization.
December 6th, 2009 at 1:15 am
Sorry for the double post, but…
Jesse I just read one of your posts on another topic. We pretty much said the same thing. Sorry if I sound a bit condesending or insulting.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:29 am
“Please don’t generalize about IVAW. Don’t judge the good with the bad”
Too many REDs helped found IVAW. Bone up on some history, commies can’t be trusted ever and they will always stab you in the back when you are no longer a “useful idiot” to them.
I have a beef with how the Afghan war was managed instead of waged. Don’t believe we should have went into Iraq nor should we ever engage in “nation building”, but I’ll never join forces with a communist front group.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Too many Frauds, too many Lies, too much impugning my brothers who fought with me. Until IVAW comes clean (“Self-Criticism” if it makes your Marxist/Socialist hearts feel better) rids itself of the platoons of Frauds (Millard prime example, wearing a CIB he wasnt awarded), Traitors (Webb types who advocate sabotage of American Equipment, and Violence perpetrated on American Soldiers), Persons who encourage Mutiny & AWOL/Desertion,Hardcore Socialists and those who’ve NEVER served (In general and in Iraq & Afghanistan) why would I Cut them a Huss?
SO far as an Iraq Veteran (2004-2005 CIB & PH Baghdad TAOR)
I have been accused of being a War Criminal, Fascist, Victim, Torturer, Rapist, Murderer- All from IVAW events like the bullshit “Patrol” theaters(or whatever the fuck you call them) and WSI agitprop.
Why the Fuck would I give them a Break after that? You’ve insulted Myself, My Comrades (alive & dead), My Country, My Army and I’m supposed to sing Kumbaya with y’all???
Fuck that
December 6th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Hard to ever beat what Sean just said, and I would love to hear a response to that from AS or anyone else on that side.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Mark,
Selena will never respond to that. She is part of the problem with “IV”AW. Selena wears the shirt “Iraq Veterans Against The War” but has she even been to Iraq? NO!
She uses the “stories” of her fellow “IV”AW members and without verifying them she spreads these “stories” as if they are true of every American who has served over there.
Selena is “IV”AW’s biggest supporter, she will never say anything bad about it. “IV”AW is her “ugly baby”.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Sean, well said.
TSO- I’d like to hear AS say something on that matter as well. I don’t understand why she continues to associate herself such turds.
December 6th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
I’d say that AS is just another one of those bulldkyish females we come to know in the Army. The men and women she serves with do not respect her because they see she’s a shitty soldier. She has to come to an organization that will accept everyone, no matter how much of a turd they are, just so she can get hugs and feel loved.
She’s another problem I’d say. A worthless soldier taking up an NCO spot that a well deserving, hard working soldier should have.
December 6th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Sean…Wow, Just Wow…NEVER have I heard such an acurate description to describe these a$$hats…very well put sir!
December 6th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
You guys need to lay off AS. Yeah, she needs to leave IVAW, but you think she would listen to any of you after you rip on her again and again. True, she has not been to Iraq, but she also never lied about it. Oh, and she is not bulldyk-ish at all.
December 6th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Casey … I get it. I have respect for you. And I did respect AS to certain degree until I found out she was never even in Iraq. I’ll always resent IVAW for the Iraq Veterans Against The War who have never been to Iraq. Its a farse .. the whole thing .. a fking joke.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
I was waiting for AS to defend herself, since others attacked me the other day with something she knew to be untrue, and didn’t defend me. But, nonetheless, no, AS is not bulldykey (whatever that is) at all. She isn’t this way because she wants to be big and tough or any similiar thing, she actually believes somehow that this horseshit would do any good.
But, I swear to you, AS is shockingly normal.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
TSO said: But, I swear to you, AS is shockingly normal.
In the sense that she is confused… sure.
In the sense the she feels obligated to defend her position… sure
But… obstreperous would be a better description.
I’ll join you in defending her. But let’s not pretend that she is not a whole lot of silly.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
FTR, I have not jumped in AS’s shit or called her out for her beliefs…it’s the lameness of comparisons she uses to defend her position with IVAW. I could care less if she has been to sandbox. I care about the not so strack way that the people were allowed into an organization that has proven itself to be worthless.
Hence all the defections and thinking that it was acceptable to boot/reprimand others for calling out the liars, or those who reflect nothing on the covenants in the IVAW.
She might be completely normal, but JHC, please get a grip on what BS that organization is. She could do so much more in a better environment where people don’t try to lie/one-up each other on what they did or didn’t do so they can feel important or less like fuck-ups. She definitely doesn’t strike me as that type. Save yourself is what my mother always said…then you can help others, for real.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
I haven’t responded because the only internet access I have right now is from my Blackberry, but if TSO requests, here goes.
First, none of you have any idea of what my contribution to the war was unless you served with me. Why? Because I don’t talk about it much at all. And why is that? Because intel soldiers get taught one thing. The less you say, total, the less your mouth will run away with you and you’ll say something classified. If it makes you feel better about my views on the war to think I had nothing to do with it, or to think that I was a shitty soldier or shitty NCO, enjoy.
TSO: I offered to defend you and you said no. And I still did somewhere.
It’s kind of funny, if awful, that the first assumption is that I must be this really butch woman to get involved in IVAW.
What I believe? I believe that IVAW is just another way of doing my job as an NCO-taking care of soldiers. At least, that’s what I do.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Also, for the record, amazingstuff is just really pissed that I defriended him on Facebook, and so has turned into a crazy attackmonkey. Way to prove to me I should let you back on my friends list and that you never say anything bad about me, Jeff.
Sean- I know that there are some jacked up people in IVAW (though less now that Webb is gone) who have said jacked up things. But that is the case for every vets organization. As for the patrols, can I ask what you don’t like about them? I haven’t seen any that were making wild accusations.
Sorry for the short response, again, I am typing this on my cellphone.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Less jacked up now that Webb is gone, AS? That’s like saying throwing the stupidest kid off the short bus is somehow an “improvement.”
December 7th, 2009 at 12:06 am
If it isn’t, then all that time in juvie was for nothing…I kiiiiid, I kiiiiiid.
December 7th, 2009 at 12:39 am
Oh Selena! I’m not pissed off at you for not being my “friend” on facebook. I don’t really give a shit.
Well now you have something in common with Lilyea and Seavey. All three of you booted me. Boohoo, far-lefties hate me and far-righties hate me. Ohh gee!
Attackmonkey??? Seriously? I just like to point out inconsistencies from all three of you. It’s too easy.
December 7th, 2009 at 7:02 am
AS: Please don’t call IVAW a “Veterans Organization”, because hijacking that title diminishes true Veterans Organizations. Calling IVAW a Political Action Committee is more fitting, but Veterans Organization????? I think not.
December 7th, 2009 at 7:21 am
I defriended you because you don’t seem to have an understanding of the basic tenants of behaving appropriately. When you started attacking my friends on my facebook page for no reason at all, it seemed time to let you go. I don’t know if you have rage issues or something, but it was scaring the straits.
December 7th, 2009 at 7:52 am
AS-
That “you don’t know what I did” crap is getting old in reference to the war. Seriously. if it’s top secret, I personally do not give a shit. What matters is that these people don’t give a shit about your good intentions or your beliefs and you are letting it happen out of some absolutely displaced loyalty to an organization that is corrupt. It has done nothing good that I can see…unless you count ridiculous behaviors, lies, and arrests as furthering the cause of vets against the war.
Wake up. These people are taking you down with the ship. You’d get more respect somewhere else…why keep defending people who don’t really care? You can’t help people who don’t want to be helped.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:51 am
DefendUSA:
The best way I can say it is: have you ever had a platoon, where the platoon was great but the company leadership was pretty shitty? Now imagine you were offered a chance to transfer out of the platoon. You would have a lot less stress, but what about your guys? Who would they have?
That in a nutshell is about my feelings for IVAW. Weirdly, my loyalty to it has a lot of ties to a lot of the reasons I kept re-enlisting in the Army.
OldTrooper: It’s an organization of vets who often get involved and fight for vets and often sit around drinking beer. Seems like every other vet organization I’ve been in.
December 7th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Mark,
That’s funny. I’m scary and have rage issues? Too freakin funny. That’s not exactly what happened. Could it have been this:
I said: Hey Republicans, the Taliban burned an effigy of President Obama in Afghanistan…wonder if your party and the so-called conservatives will applaud them???
Mark Seavey: DO you have any links to conservatives cheering over a effigy of Obama being burned? Is there a single source to back up your theory?
For myself, effigy’s are alway bad Ghey.
October 26 at 3:38pm
Then I said: Mark, please re-read what I wrote. I never said that Republicans or Conservatives have cheered this, I wrote “wonder if your party and the so-called conservatives will applaud them??”
Notice that it’s a question?
October 26 at 3:43pm
Within minutes of that post, you removed me as your “friend”. Is honesty a problem here?
December 7th, 2009 at 11:01 am
You’re right; it’s an organization made up of Vets, however, the rest of what you said falls very short. Please list the activities in which your “veterans Organization” helps all Vets?
As for seeming like every other Vet Org you’ve been in; I guess you haven’t really been exposed to much of what goes on, then? I could take up an entire page listing the things the the VFW and American Legion do for Veterans, their families, and the communities.
Just off the top of my head; how much money/time/man-power has the IVAW given/done for Brain Sciences, to help with PTSD and TBI? How much time/money has IVAW given to helping out at Veterans Homes across the nation? Who is your liason with the VA in each state, to help Veterans get through all the red tape and work with the VA to make sure the Veteran is getting what they earned? How many times a month does your state representative sit down with the VA? How involved was IVAW with working on the latest GI Bill? Why didn’t I see IVAW as a signatory to the letter to DHS about the biased report, that was finally retracted? When was the last time that your “Veterans Organization” donated time/money doing fundraisers for school safety programs in the community? Does your organization even give a shit about the community and children here in this country? Does your organization have a fund set up to help the children of fallen troops, so that they can get a college education?
Get back to me with the list of all that your “organization” does to help the troops, families, and communities in a positive light.
December 7th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Old Trooper,
Great Post. Awesome. Will a representative of “IV”AW please answer any of those questions?
December 7th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Allow me to point out one thing that may be escaping everyone at the moment.
IVAW is a relatively new organization, and relatively poor. What are we supposed to make these scholarships with, air?
The VFW was formed in 1899 and in 1915 had a membership 5000 strong. During those formative years, they weren’t doing all the things they are known for now. They were mostly local and fighting for their own better treatment.
IVAW was formed only in 2004 and currently has around 1800 members. It is extremely unfair to compare it to organizations that have existed for over 100.
December 7th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Ok what about the VFP?
December 7th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Why didn’t I see IVAW as a signatory to the letter to DHS about the biased report, that was finally retracted?
Because the IVAW leadership agreed with the report?
AS, the majority of the items mentioned by OldTrooper requires only TIME.
The board of IVAW has time (and the cash) to go to a protest, but not to a Veterans supporting event.
BTW, the VFW was formed in 1914 by the combination of 3 regional groups, in 1915 there were 5K members and in 1916 they had the first essay contest.
March 15-17, 1919 Members of the American Expeditionary Force convene in Paris for the first American Legion caucus. Aug. 9, 1921 The American Legion’s efforts result in the creation of the U.S. Veterans Bureau, forerunner of the Veterans Administration
VFW – 2 years and dealing with national issues.
American Legion – 2 years and dealing with national issues.
IVAW – 5 years of navel gazing and still not even verifying members service records.
December 7th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Yeah, I hear ya, AS, and in those formative years of both the VFW and American Legion, their mission statement and purpose included war protests, defending those that were deserters or expelled from the military; along with other nefarious activities that were negative in their scope. They basically formed in order to bitch about the military and the country, including rather harsh language against the President of the United States. In fact, I recall that part of the Congressional Charter included those types of things. Oh, could you tell me how your Congressional Charter activity is going? Have you guys gotten all the paperwork assembled for that? I mean, you good folks have had a national convention, or two, since you were first formed; right? I mean, the very first national convention of the American Legion was held in 1919 and the work was centered around the Congressional Charter and all that kind of stuff. It didn’t take long for others to join in, because the stated purpose and goals were “positive” towards the country and Veterans.
See, when your stated purpose and goals are negative, it doesn’t make a very good recruiting tool to your “cause”. When your stated goals have nothing to do with really helping Veterans and everything to do with “anti-war”, nothing to do with helping the community and everything to do with tearing down long held beliefs and institutions; it kinda makes it difficult to get much support.
I’m not rich, I don’t have a lot of money, but then again, I work for a living, contrary to most of the IVAW, which seems to collect those that couldn’t be bothered to do anything but bitch.
Your group falls right in line with VFP and the other anti-war types in that you are marginalized by your own purposes and goals, which don’t really fall into place with the rest of the country. You are a fringe Political Action Committee and that’s all you’ll ever be, because your message isn’t positive and your actions prove that out on a regular basis.
Your excuses don’t work, because in the digital age, you have more than ample space to get out your message of tending to the troops and Vets, however, by your groups own stated goals and purposes, helping Veterans is down the list from the other junk, which means you are only for helping Vets when there is time in between protests and if the membership feels like doing anything.
Why haven’t I seen press releases from you guys about the DHS report? All you guys would have had to do was put out a presser stating that you stand with the other VSOs in denouncing the blatantly biased report. I haven’t seen a presser saying that you are contributing manpower (Lord knows most of you guys have the time) to laying wreaths at any of the national cemetaries this holiday season. All we get is bitching and complaining and bagging on the country.
No one said you had to start big, but you guys haven’t started at all.
December 7th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Jeff- Be honest now, that isn’t even a little accurate. i didn’t “unfriend” you until you started making nasty comments to a friend of mine on the facebook page. In fact, why on earth would I delete the one you suggest I was deleting? That doesn’t even make sense.
But go ahead and keep using my real name. i think you must think that it causes me some sort of concern, but I assure you it does not.
December 7th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
TSO is deleting for now after talking to AS.
Let it drop guys, we can revisit later.
December 7th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Let’s just drop this for now guys, AS is having a bit of a rough time right now, and might not be entirely comfortable ansering too much.
I’d take it as a personal favor if you would let it drop for now.
December 7th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Fine.
December 7th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Checking fire.
December 7th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
I follow the leaders who lead by example. And if you keep re-enlisting because you are loyal to the Army as opposed to playing the martyr, good for you.
You are playing the martyr with those who are left in IVAW…the ship is sinking and nothing you do is going to change it. Get out, while the getting is good and go start or join another organization that does WORK and for the right reasons.
Look, I have had a crappy command, but I have never had a leader ask me to do something he wouldn’t do. It’s that simple.
December 7th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Mark,
where did I say “delete”? I have no idea what your talking about. Come on Mark…honesty is a good thing.
About using your real name. Seems to me that you must have an issue with it, since you wouldn’t have made the comment unless it bothered you just a little.
December 7th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Yes there are other Black members of IVAW like Margaret Stevens.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=144093358&blogId=485634488
December 8th, 2009 at 1:13 am
go away Webb. Are you seriously suggesting that only you and Margaret were the only black members of IVAW. Please stop, it’s actually pathetic.
December 8th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Except for the part about not going by my first name, and certainly not to some douche who decided to be an asshole on facebook to my best friend, I pretty much have no problem. Shout it from the rafters. Not like I haven’t gotten death threats from it before, but at least now i don’t have kids in the house. So, go ahead, use my name, print my address, I really don’t give a shit.
December 8th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Carl: What does color have to do with fucked up ideology? Ideology is colorblind. You don’t have to be a certain color to be a commie, just gullible. The only one making it about race is you. It’s a tired, pathetic argument, from a tired, pathetic little commie.
December 8th, 2009 at 9:03 am
“You don’t have to be a certain color to be a commie, just gullible.”
You also have to ignore the life example of Karl Marx, a neer-do well who never held a job, never paid his rent on time,never had a job ‘cept for stints as a reporter or ran a business, sponged off Engels until he received his inheritance (BOURGEOIS!!!), and never did a damned thing once his royalties from Das Kapital & the stinkin’ commie manifesto began rolling in (BOURGEOIS X2!!! Has the hypocrisy kicked in yet Carl marx Webbsy-kins?? ). Geezus Carl marx Webb, if you fall for this communist crap, do you let the crackhead on the corner balance your checkbook?
December 8th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
please quote where I was a “douche” to your best friend. Were you seriously in the military cause you kind of sound like a wus here. You actually defended my country in uniform but act like such a bitch. Come on Mark, stop whinning. I think your friend was able to hold his own against little ol’ me. Maybe it should have been him that served and not you.
“I don’t care if you say my name”…ummm yes you do, if you didn’t care you wouldn’t have said it.
Death threats…seriously? must be those scary hippies.
December 8th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
You really are such a douche. I’m done responding to you, it does no good and you are impervious to logic.
December 8th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
good comeback…just don’t respond, it’s better than lying.
December 8th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
“Yes there are other Black members of IVAW like Margaret Stevens.” Another infil-traitor who has admitted to wanting to turn IVAW into a communist revolutionary group. The same individual who avoided going to Iraq by going out and having unprotected sex in order to get pregnant and then after being discharged from the national guard, had an abortion so war and pregnancy wouldn’t inconvenience her. Yeah, thats the poster girl of color for IVAW! Another shining moral example.
December 8th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Exposing IVAW, I’ve heard stories of females doing that in the Army. Any proof you can bring to the table about her?
December 11th, 2009 at 4:43 am
What I’m seriously suggesting to people like ‘Amazing Stuff’ is that Black members make up about only 5% of IVAW. Does anyone know what percentage of the army is Black? And yes non-whites are more likely to be leftist.
December 11th, 2009 at 4:56 am
Hey JuniorAG, what’s wrong with never having held a job?
December 11th, 2009 at 5:23 am
What does the second part say?
December 11th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Things are relaxing a bit, at least so I think. Anyway…
Carl are you serious? “what’s wrong with never having held a job”? Are you a leech or a man? No need to answer, we apparently already know.
There are a lot of black and hispanic and native american and all sorts of minorities in IVAW. The reason that we can’t track them very well is because we only started putting ethnicity on the form recently, and most people ignore the block, or write stuff like “American” in there. Which I can totally get behind, honestly.
Actually, amazingly enough and sadly for your crazy delusions, most of the people you disliked in IVAW were…hey, what do you know…minorities! Jabbar, me, Jose…
But thankfully you are gone now and will never be back, so all I have to encounter you on is places like TAH where people are well aware of your lunacy.
December 11th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Carl is following Karl, in doing nothing but living off the work of others, like a good little commie. That doesn’t make you much of anything, except a burden on society. You are an adult and mommy and daddy don’t support you anymore, which means you should look at becoming a productive member of society. That’s what draws you to communism; the fact that you can live off the toils of others. We call that being a lazy ass.
December 11th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Lest we forget the oldest continuous Veterans Service Organization- Jewish War Veterans. Formed in 1896 to combat Antisemitism and the myth that Jews do not fight of America. Holds a Congressional Charter under Title 36, USC.
From the Preamble of the JWV charter- “To maintain true allegiance to the United States of America; to foster and perpetuate true Americanism; to combat whatever tends to impair the efficiency and permanency of our free institutions; to uphold the fair name of the Jew and fight his or her battles wherever unjustly assailed; to encourage the doctrine of universal liberty, equal rights, and full justice to all men and women; to combat the powers of bigotry and darkness wherever originating and whatever their target; to preserve the spirit of comradeship by mutual helpfulness to comrades and their families; to cooperate with and support existing educational institutions and establish educational institutions, and to foster the education of ex-servicemen and ex-servicewomen, and our members in the ideals and principles of Americanism; to instill love of country and flag, and to promote sound minds and bodies in our members and our youth; to preserve the memories and records of patriotic service performed by the men and women of our faith; to honor their memory and shield from neglect the graves of our heroic dead.”
How does that compare to IVAW??
December 11th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Webb,
Google is an amazing thing, fucking leftard. From the United States Army G1-
http://www.armyg1.army.mil/HR/demographics.asp
FY08- Total Active Army- Black- 19.8%, NG- 13.3%, USAR- 22.1%
Total US Population- Black- 17%
Actual facts are tough to comprehend.
December 11th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
doesn’t anyone on this blog have a life? you spend all your time criticizing everyone else, try that “Self Criticism” on yourselves!!!
December 11th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Yeah, let me know how that’s been working out for you, Ms. Brower. You seem to spend an awful lot of time doing just what you are accusing us of doing. I didn’t spend any time going to Westpoint and standing outside babbling incoherently like you did. That’s typical leftists projection for ya.
You are stuck on stupid, lady.
December 11th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Funny that is what I think about “world can’t wait” and “Code Pink”/
December 15th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Casey,
You should ask around those in IVAW and those who have left IVAW. Some will probably be able to tell you the same. Perhaps even those who knew her from college also. Atleast you can have a verifiable source to cite along with a name from within IVAW. Ask around. I’ve even heard rumors from leftist circles that her parents sent her into the national guard to infiltrate it and promote marxism in the military – despite her claims of a racist, sexist draft in the USA.
Getting a copy of her discharge records from the New Jersey National Guard showing that she left due to pregnancy will be the best hard evidence.
And Carl,
Black, White, Brown, Purple, etc stop trying to play the race card.
You’re self absorbed head case and a fraud. You’re not much better than IVAW’s other problem child Jesse MacBeth.
December 15th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
And straight from IVAW, “Stevens’ female comrades realized that war was on the horizon and started to get pregnant in order not to deploy.”
http://www.ivaw.org/membersspeak/winter-soldier-liveblog-military-sexism-margaret-stevens
The old, it was my friends that did it story.
While continuing the feminist baloney (lies) about Swift’s four month long, consensual sexual relationship in Iraq that she regretted and ended on her own later. As told by Swift in the NY Times- “Swift does not say she was raped, exactly, but rather manipulated into having sex…”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/18/magazine/18cover.html?_r=3&pagewanted=all
December 15th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
ExIVAW, I read the article on Swift. One article, and your claims, well, I just can’t draw a conclusion from. I’m not going to rip on Swift because she is IVAW or a woman. I simply do not know her enough to say for sure. I can tell you the Army prefers to sweep things under the rug most of the time when some bad shit goes down.
December 15th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Oh, your IVAW link does not work. Also, you should post using your real name.