That video from the USS Enterprise
I’ve been reading about this supposedly “raunchy” video that the former XO and current commander (CPT Owen Honors) of the USS Enterprise made while the crew was finishing their 2007 cruise. From everything I’ve read, I was expecting something really disgusting. Our reader Matt sent me the video and I’ll tell you, I’m shocked.
Here’s how CNN described it;
Honors is shown cursing along with other members of his staff in an attempt to demonstrate humor, according to videos. There are also anti-gay slurs, simulated sex acts, and what appear to be two female sailors in a shower together.
Sounds pretty bad, huh? Well, here’s the video. You really owe it to yourself to watch the whole 12 minutes;
This is the tamest thing I could have expected. Anyone who gets their balls in a uproar over this bit of sophomoric behavior is a complete pussy. Yeah, OK, they used the F-bomb and they made some toilet jokes and a guy beating off to his maintenance manual is kind of funny, but I guess civilian journalists have a different idea of what is funny than real people.
The Huffington Post calls Honors the “Mastermind” behind the video. Mastermind. Jeez. The Virginia Pilot quotes a shipmember;
“They were the XO’s project,” said one former Enterprise sailor, a ship video-grapher who on one occasion was asked to help in the filming. “He was the one coming up with scripts and the jokes. He was the one planning it.”
The Pilot continues with a description of the “mastermind’s” video;
In one scene, two female Navy sailors stand in a shower stall aboard the aircraft carrier, pretending to wash each other. They joke about how they should get six minutes under the water instead of the mandated three.
In other skits, sailors parade in drag, use anti-gay slurs, and simulate masturbation and a rectal exam. Another scene implies that an officer is having sex in his stateroom with a donkey.
Really. Show me something anti-gay. The women in the shower were clothed and willing participants. And, oh, there’s also a scene with two guys in the shower soaping each other up. In drag? A guy runs through a scene with a bikini top. Who among us hasn’t used the “sex with a donkey” joke?
If what I saw is the entire video, I’d say “so fucking what?” This is the kind of nit-picking bullshit that continues to keep the military arms’ length from civilians. Of course, CNN and the Virginia Pilot hopes this rises to the level of the Tailhook Scandal, but it’s not even close. Most of the civilian dimwits won’t even see the video, but they’ll still complain about shit they’ve never seen…like they always do. Ignorant but vocal.
The Navy’s investigation should have ended twelve minutes after it began. But it won’t.
And, oh, Honors is a homeboy from Syracuse and we ain’t right.
January 2nd, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Well, I have to say that since I drop the f-bomb more than that in regular conversation, I’m not too shocked. The “anti-gay” thing I think they’re claiming is the “fag” thrown in there a few times.
I thought that shit was hysterical, especially the parrot, which appears to be the mascot, and Glenn Close.
January 2nd, 2011 at 9:03 pm
wow. If they can’t deal with this, I’d hate to see what they’d say about some of the S**t I did on edployment
January 2nd, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Because of the slimeballs running the show these days, their collective careers are over.
January 2nd, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Heaven forbid the XO of a ship should give a shit enough about his crew to make a video that many people would laugh about. This is what happens when you break away from all the boring BS and get some people to pay attention.
Sorry XO but I guess your career is fried. You’re not going to make it to Admiral now because you cared.
Goddamn I hate the path our military is taking now.
January 2nd, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Where’s the ol man Mullins? I’m gonna step out port side and smoke me a “fag”. He can join me if n he wants ta. A$$hat!
January 2nd, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Away the Morale Suppression Team, away.
January 2nd, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Sorry to be off topic but I have a quick question. You guys are the experts on stolen valor and fake vets – which is the main reason I read this sight. Have you heard anything about a fake vet that goes by the name of Bobby Thompson? From what I understand he claims to be ex-Navy and has stolen a ton of money claiming to be raising money for wounded vets. I have not heard this from a source I trust yet, which is why I am asking TAH.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:02 pm
….. can’t get right.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:03 pm
This is absolutely a lesson on how to waste the taxpayer money to create a conflict where there should be none. You know, it reminds me of when “sexual harassment” was a non-issue.
Example: when the CO might ask the well-endowed private on a PT run if her eyes were good…meaning- not black from the friction created by the bobbing boobs and then everyone else in the platoon had a good laugh, “victim” included.
We called it bonding, and I think this video is more of that…too bad the spin will end the career of this guy. There are much worse offenses, I am sure.
I guess videos for fun is now on a new list of what not to do…
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:11 pm
I’m sure the cupcakes were spitting their double non-fat soy latte all over their computer screen when they watched this. Bunch of fucking pussies. No wonder the bad guys are all laughing at us when we have a bunch of limp wrists crying like fucking school girls about some harsh words and bullshit like that. Ooooooo they were using gruff language and flipping the bird!!! What a bunch of candy-asses!
If I hear the word “inappropriate” one more time, I’m gonna have a psychotic episode!!
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:13 pm
I wonder how shocked the Virginia Pilot will be, when they find out the Navy willingly kills muslims.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:39 pm
that was fucking hilarious!!!
one of my squad leaders on a previous deployment made several morale films like that. One such film led to a full blown 15-6 investigation, sworn statements the whole 9 yards and resulted in a nonpunative letter of reprimand for my room mate. Luckily, I never actually appeared on camera where I could be recognized………….
If you ever see “Mandatory Fun Day”, “Monteith Plantation”, “Fantastic KFOR” or “The Last American Hero”, you’ll know what I’m talking about
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:48 pm
I watched the “Raunchy” video earlier today. SO FUCKING WHAT??
I’ve seen/heard/done much worse in many of the Restaurants/Bars I’ve worked in. I’ve had female bosses that would put that XO in friggin’ tears.Hell, I’ve seen worse on Public Access TV! This is what we’ve come to- the “HAPPY,HAPPY,EVERYONE GETS A PONY” bullshit where you can’t offend anyone. I never saw anti-gay rhetoric,nor anyone in the video who didn’t look like they were having fun. any of these assholes who got their little panties in a wad should try spending a week in an APC with 1/2 a dozen guys,or go to work in just about any restaurant and see how raunchy it gets.
January 2nd, 2011 at 11:02 pm
I jsut watched the video. I am so offended. F__King officers get real showers? We had the G______N car wash nozzles!
January 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 pm
This reminds me of the ridiculous shit-fit they threw over the “Hadji Girl” song by the US Marine a few years back. The song was absolutely hilarious (“And then she said: ‘Durka Durka Mohammad Jihad. Sherpa Sherpa Bak Allah.’ Haji Girl I can’t understand what you’re sayin’”), but the terrorist a-holes at CAIR got their panties in a bunch and caused a stink about it.
January 2nd, 2011 at 11:18 pm
So of all the crappy, racist, sexist, horrifying, low brow, and anti gay videos on the internet this is the one that makes people cringe with horror? It’s ok for civilian tards to make fun of the military but god forbid someone do it from the inside. What tools
January 2nd, 2011 at 11:19 pm
Corporal Joshua Belile (part of The Sweater Kittens band… GREAT band name heh): Hadji Girl
January 2nd, 2011 at 11:24 pm
This is the kind of nit-picking bullshit that continues to keep the military arms’ length from civilians.
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Well, hold on there, man. Not all civvies are as riTARDed as these MF-ing media fucksticks and any liberals pushing this crap. I think most military-loving civilians have no problem with this stuff, especially “South Park Conservatives” such as myself and millions of others. The only civilians getting their panties in a twist about this crap are those who already have an irrational fear/hatred of the military.
January 3rd, 2011 at 12:45 am
The only thing I found offensive about that was that it was so tame…these bleeding hearts would stroke if they heard one my old XO’s port briefs, particularly the one immediately prior to anchoring off Pattaya Beach, Thailand…
January 3rd, 2011 at 2:58 am
Hmm… in my capacity as “ignorant civilian” (label provided by Jacobite on a previous post), all I can say is I think this would make one heck of a Navy recruitment video.
January 3rd, 2011 at 4:37 am
I’m terribly offended by this video…because it wasn’t raunchy enough! Hard to believe the XO is in serious trouble over this nonsense. Such faux prudishness is the sign of a very unserious nation/society. These people are risking their lives, living ion lousy conditions to defend their country – and we’re worried about a few silly skits? Unreal. Slap the XO on the wrist (if at all) and move on. Yeesh.
January 3rd, 2011 at 8:04 am
Hell, its a ton funnier than the alcohol and VD flicks they used to show us in the 60s
January 3rd, 2011 at 10:00 am
Jesus, one night in Subic, Pattaya, or even Sydney would have given these limp-wristed fucksticks seizures, to say nothing of “crossing the line” or Bluenose ceremonies.
January 3rd, 2011 at 10:16 am
“They drop fire on people from their jets, but aren’t allowed to write FUCK on them because it’s OBSCENE!”
Marlon Brando, Appocolypse Now
This is a joke right? People are upset over this????? Doesn’t surprise me in the least. The same people that are upset over this don’t mind porn not being filtered in public libraries for children to see. They will hang this guy…mark my words.
Honor and Courage
January 3rd, 2011 at 10:24 am
Dear CNN,
Show this video against a 12-minute clip of a Hollywood release such as, say, Porky’s, or Superbad, or The Hangover.
Now STFU and carry on.
January 3rd, 2011 at 10:34 am
The only thing wrong with this video is the lack of nudity, lol.
Echoing others here, it’s a shame this is gonna blight the XO’s career.
And Spockgirl, I don’t recall labeling you an ‘ignorant civilian’, but if I did, my apologies.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:22 am
So glad to know I have an irrational fear/hatred of the military because I think this is was grossly inappropriate for the XO to be doing.
/sarc
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:33 am
Shocked I tell ya!
Those sailors were cussing like sailors.
They were so homophobic that they acted out gay shower scenes.
Is it time that we start a federal investigation on Hollywood? They’ve certainly put out raunchier videos seen internationally? Perhaps we should investigate Jerry Springer, which is watched internationally and a big reason muslims think so poorly of us.
Or perhaps we should insist that when Congressmen grope their staffers, it too should be videotaped?
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:40 am
Whatever; lets make a big deal out of nothing. The XO is responsible for moral on the boat. I would have enjoyed an XO such as Capt. Honors. So what if someone was offended; there are several channels to choose from. Nobody forced anyone to watch.
January 3rd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
#25 NHSparky:
Porky’s or Porky’s Revenge…
#26 Jacobite:
No worries… I figured your comment to be a generalization as to civilian ignorance, which I would tend to agree with. If I had taken actual offense, I just might have called you an arrogant prick, but that would be wrong. Heh.
January 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
lol!
January 3rd, 2011 at 2:23 pm
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January 3rd, 2011 at 2:32 pm
I figured your comment to be a generalization as to civilian ignorance, which I would tend to agree with.
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I tend to agree with the generalization as well, unfortunately. But while most civilians don’t understand military culture in general — and really can’t understand unless they actually are a part of it through family or spouses in the military… and even then, can’t fully understand it without experiencing it themselves — I think the majority of civilians nowadays admire and respect the members of the military and give them the benefit of the doubt on issues such as this.
And I think this has a lot to do with Reagan and Bush 41 turning around the perception of our military in the 80s and early 90s. I was a Freshman in High School when my Biology teacher — a really well liked teacher in the school as well — was called to duty for Operation Desert Storm as he was a medic. He left mid-semester around OCT or NOV, I believe in 1990. That was my first experience knowing anyone in the military. That war effort, I believe, was also the first one that was televised on CNN, so people could see what was going on. I still remember the amazing rendition of the National Anthem at the Super Bowl that year and I believe the NHL All-Star game was in Chicago and they blew the roof off with their screaming and cheering for the National Anthem there.
So I grew up in a time when America loved and respected its military. The IVAWs and VoteVets and VetsforPeace and ANSWER types are no longer the default view of the civilian public, but are now relegated to fringe radicals.
I think if you ask anyone who has any type of connection to the military what groups they think of first, organizations come to mind such as Patriot Riders, Soldiers Angels, America Supports You, Operation Gratitude, the USO, etc.
So while there is definitely still a culture gap between those who serve and civilians, I don’t think the gap is as large as it used to be. More and more Americans the last 2-3 decades have been making the effort to bridge that gap.
January 3rd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Here’s my proposed defense for the Captain: “No Navy property or personnel were physically or mentally harmed in the filming of these videos, unlike what that bitch holly graf did…”
January 3rd, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Finally navy guy with some balls,everyone should write their congressman,give the squid a hand he is just trying to keep moral up.
January 3rd, 2011 at 3:42 pm
As a former bubblehead (84-90), I can say that this is nothing compared to our half-way nights on an SSBN, shell back events, or the submarine qualification process as a whole. Anyone who was offended by this has obviously not watched TV after 9 PM or been to a recent movie. I am glad that I bailed on the Navy while it was still a shadow of the organization that my father would have recognized from WW II.
January 3rd, 2011 at 5:05 pm
You have got to be shitting me………
In defense of CPT Honors, I would like to offer those who’d derail his career train an all expenses paid 2-day stay in my home so that they may experience true obscenity.
I’ll even bake them fucking cookies.
January 3rd, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Watch this case carefully.
You can expect more of these complaints, particularly about previous anti-gay slurs made prior to the repeal of DADT.
Gays who served quietly under DADT will now be able to openly come out in protest of prior, perceived “anti-gay” acts. Previously, they had to sit in silence for fear of retribution or outing. Now, they can gun for the officer or SPO they always hated.
Plus, they’ll become media darlings with Katy Couric crowning them as a modern day Rosa Parks. (See Dan Choi)
Welcome to the New Normal.
January 3rd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Oooh, Cursing in the military. My, my.
If anything, as a civi, I saw an XO who understands his crew, values their morale as critical to the mission, and is willing to be self-deprecating.
If anything, he demonstrates a real-life awareness of some of the issues in the military (sex, homosexuality) and seems understanding of them.
Commander Honors is a man I’m glad is fighting for us!
January 3rd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
This is it??? This is what has the media in such a fucking uproar? Sweet weeping jesus I heard more f-bombs my first day of jump school than in the whole video. The humor was dumb, the jokes dumb and that was just the point. To relieve the tension on a long cruise and see the xo and other officers in a different light. People need to get a grip on themselves and tell the screaming dickwads in the press to shut-the-fuck-up.
January 3rd, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Seems ok in the Army.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUc62jD-G0o
January 3rd, 2011 at 6:29 pm
“In a statement to the Virginian-Pilot on Friday, however, the Navy said it had put a stop to videos with ‘inappropriate content’” on the Enterprise several years ago.”
Oh really, so the top brass has known for years.
January 3rd, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Yep, the crew of the ship was subjected to this, but they are still watching videos on their iPods and personal laptops of rappers dropping much worse in “music” videos, watching uncut movies of Hollywood performers doing the same.
I do not condone a senior officer doing the same on an official Navy circuit, it is inappropriate.
But people should realize that the military is tough, rough and we don’t need their nanny state c**p. If an individual had an issue with the videos, they need to take it up the chain of command. This is what the CAPT had an issue with; simply have the honor, courage and commitment to follow understand the process of issuing a grievance. Not following the process implies consent. I think this is a hit tactic by the mass media, bored with the current news.
CTIC(SG) (Retired)
January 3rd, 2011 at 8:29 pm
OK… I just wanted to comment on the biggest non-story of the day that “exposes” the fact that sailors sometimes use salty language and humor to break up a long and arduous deployment. No kidding…. Really? No Shit.
This story is obviously being pushed by a bunch of land locked lubbers who have never spent a day at sea and have NO idea how difficult that can be. This Skipper is the kind of officer that inspires his crew to follow him anywhere.
Like other Submariners here I remember halfway night celebrations that make this video seem like an episode of “Barney”.
The only message this “Tempest in a Teapot” sends to the Navy is “Levity is secured until morale improves.”
January 3rd, 2011 at 8:43 pm
“Sweet weeping Jesus I heard more f-bombs my first day of jump school than in the whole video”. I heard more f-bombs in my first hour at basic, at Ft. Knox, from the time the door on our bus opened and a corporal screamed, “get the fuck off my bus”. And these, um, “people” are offended by an f-bomb, or a “fag” reference, and the simulation of two women taking a shower?
And, I agree, Jorge, with the hit tactic, but I suspect it’s a chair-warmer, or someone pissed that CPT Honor got “their” command, or as AP said, this is the “new” military post-DADT.
Lord help Audie Murphy is he ever uttered the descriptive word for a gay male, his MOH is toast, it’ll have to re-awarded to Choi-Toi.
January 3rd, 2011 at 8:52 pm
No kidding about the “ceremonies” Ray. I did Bluenose and “initiated a few shipmates on following missions; it was fun. I remember a few folks opted out, but they were asked just to stay out of the way if they didnt want to participate. People enjoyed the silliness and the great dinner that followed (Submarine CS’s rock!!)
If people think this is bad, try hot-racking and finding your rackmates sock on the pillow…
CTIC(SG) (Retired)
January 3rd, 2011 at 9:18 pm
My gut feeling on this is the video was leaked by someone on board who wanted to delay or stop the deployment.
January 3rd, 2011 at 9:30 pm
And then you have those who parrot this horseshit:
“The sad thing is that this guy will probably make millions despite his inappropriate behavior and probable dishonorable discharge. This is the “wikileaks” era…there’s always someone willing to watch and pay big $$$ for it. I think my dad, who served on the Big E during Vietnam, would agree.
Whether in the name of maintaining morale or not, a CO at that level should have had the forsight to see the potential negative outcomes of engaging in behavior that could be interpreted as inappropriate should evidence of those actions be made public-a virtual certainty in today’s word.”
January 3rd, 2011 at 9:57 pm
NHSparky and gbodge are absolutely friggin’ right on the money. The scheisse we pulled in Subic, Patio Beach, and other unnamed villes in Korea would put the good idiots in the MFMSM too their knees. What I went through going from wog to shellback would make their eyes bleed (especially since I was a Marine and my brownshoe navy buddies wanted some payback). This is an outstanding Skipper trying to motivate his troops with some ship-wide humor that all the troops understood. Hence, that’s why it didn’t surface until 2 years later when some friggin’ pussy crybaby found it. He should be promoted for his Naval Officer’s ethic.
Semper Fi Skipper
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Holy shit has this gotten ridiculous. Even the usually military-supporting people over at AoSHQ are getting their panties in a twist about this: NBC News: Navy Will “Temporarily” Relieve USS Enterprise Captain Over Videos
I love how Brian Williams begins his report by saying the stuff in the video isn’t suitable for a family audience. Well sport, it wasn’t intended for a family audience. It was aimed at an audience of adults who were spending 6 months at war.
As for Captain Honors… how they hell could he have put himself in this situation? It can’t be a mystery to a US Navy Captain that repeatedly dropping ‘fag’ on videos and some of those other jokes was going to end well for anyone. I get that some of it was funny but dude isn’t paid to be funny. As an experienced pilot and officer he has to have some situational awareness here.
“Situational awareness” my ass. That’s just bullshit. I’ve heard worse shit in a men’s locker room. This is nothing more than some asshole who is getting back at Honors now that DADT has been repealed. For all those fuckers who said that DADT wouldn’t ruin our military, well, here we are. Great job, fucksticks.
Here’s a link to a Support Captain Owen Honors — USS Enterprise page on Facebook. Yeah, it won’t do anything to stop this bullshit, but whatever.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:47 pm
This has been an ongoing problem since the Seventies. Some civilians and even a few in the military want troops to be German Shepherds in battle and Poodles the rest of the damn time. You can train troops to fight by an ethical code without treating them like pansies.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:52 pm
I have an idea. Captain Honors should tell everyone who has a problem with the video: “Hey, go fuck yourselves if you’re offended. This is art, just like piss christ, dung virgin mary and ants on jesus. If you don’t like it, like GEN Hill said with regards to DADT repeal, then leave the military for the sake of your troops, because the military doesn’t need you.”
If he’s going to get thrown out of the military for some stupid-ass PC bullshit like this, he should go out in a blaze of glory and raise a shitstorm about all the bullshit PC that is now destroying the military from within.
January 4th, 2011 at 12:02 am
This message was apparently left on the Facebook Support page:
Stephen Szkotak: I am a reporter with The Associated Press. I am seeking a former or current Enterprise crew member who OBJECTED to the video in question. Contact me at 804-643-6646. Thanks, Steve
I think ol Steve-o needs to hear from people who OBJECT to the candy-ass AP reporting on this issue.
January 4th, 2011 at 2:08 am
Female Navy Flier: Videos Taken Out of Context — Raunchy Videos Made Aboard the USS Enterprise Could Cost Commander His Job
“I think it’s unfortunate,” Lt. Carey Lohrenz said on “Good Morning America”. “I would like to think that the people responsible for leading in the Navy wouldn’t go forward with videos like this. However, I think it’s important to remember this is being taken, to a certain extent, out of context.
“To think this is really a cultural or systemic problem, that there’s a leadership problem: I think we need to be careful.” [ ... ]
Lohrenz said that while she hasn’t seen all the videos, the ones she has seen have not convinced her Honors should lose his post as the now-No. 1 commander aboard the Enterprise.
“I think there’s certain terminology involved that, in retrospect, I would imagine that Capt. Honors would say was really not a good idea,” Lohrenz said. “This is an individual that, by all accounts, has been an exceptional leader, an exceptional aviator. … We need to proceed very cautiously when we just automatically have a really strong reaction and say, ‘Hey, this guy needs to be out of there.’”
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And then there is this:
The Virginian-Pilot reported that Honors did not return requests for comment. One of the sailors who leaked the videos said he mailed a complaint about them to the Navy’s inspector general last week, according to the paper.
So these videos were done 3-4 years ago, the Navy found out about them and ordered them stopped and they were stopped. Now, 3-4 years later, some sailors decide, right before a deployment, to leak these videos to the press and send them to the Navy’s IG and reopen a situation that had been long settled 3-4 years ago? This is absolutely asinine. We’re going to drum a great Captain out of the military for something he did 3-4 years ago and hasn’t done again, since he was ordered to stop? We’re not drumming him out for bad performance. But for some stupid videos he made 3-4 years ago. Right before a deployment.
Instead of the focus being put on Captain Honors, where is the investigation into the sailors who leaked these videos? Where are the questions about their motives? Are they doing it, because now they can get back at him now that DADT has been repealed? Are they doing it, because they want to hijack the entire deployment?
And I thought the argument by the supporters of the repeal of DADT was that we can’t kick out good military men and women over something trivial. Are those same people speaking up to support Captain Honors now?
I think it is pretty obvious that this has to do with the homosexual aspects of the videos. And I do NOT think it is a coincidence that this came back to light right after DADT was repealed, after having been a settled non-issue for 3-4 years.
January 4th, 2011 at 2:17 am
Ya know, I find it utterly f-ing despicable that a man whose spiritual mentor is an America-hating racist and best buddy is a communist, domestic terrorist is praised by the press and allowed to be Commander-in-Chief of the United States military, but Captain Honors apparently is not fit to serve, because of these videos.
And with that asininity that is our current state of affairs here in America on my mind, I’m gonna go bang my f-ing head against the wall until I pass out and get some sleep…
January 4th, 2011 at 2:46 am
Okay, I banged my head against the wall and didn’t knock myself out, unfortunately, (actually was reading the comments at CDR Salamander) but thought of something else…
Teachers in public schools and Planned Parenthood are teaching our children more raunchy stuff in schools about sex and masturbation — and being much more explicit about it — than was seen in this video. How is it okay for this stuff to be shown to children in public schools, but not okay for this stuff to be shown to military men and women in our military? Aren’t parents told that they are forbidden from having their children opt out of sex ed in schools? Yet, now we are firing good military leaders, because adults can’t handle minor jokes about sex?
I’m just at a complete loss at making any sense of all this at all…
January 4th, 2011 at 8:16 am
While I agree with others that the XO should have used his head, looking toward the future, as he now commmands the Enterprise, well, it’s too little too late and the Navy is wrong to discipline him at this juncture.
We all know what goes on behind closed doors if we have served and for the most part, it is part of military culture. If people don’t like it, get out.
Gee, here we have an opportunity for sensitivity training, don’t we? Let’s re-interview all those who were on that ship at the time of production who watched said “raunchiness” and see how adversely they were affected.
The XO had a sense of humor and the ability to connect with those under his leadership. Do you suppose they learned a few things? I am betting that all of them would testify in his favor.
I speak for myself when I say that any officer who is willing to get down and dirty with his enlisted charges in any capacity earns my respect. Hindsight is 20/20. And the navy is fucking up.
January 4th, 2011 at 8:58 am
As others have stated; this is a non-issue that was taken care of over 3 years ago. The chain of command handled it back then and it hasn’t happened since, so the IG should just throw it back with no recommendation. But that’s just me. I’m not some tender heart that can’t handle a little gruff language and barracks humor and I don’t have an agenda.
January 4th, 2011 at 9:02 am
…in other news, Michael Vick is still playing in the NFL.
January 4th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
PC Police Arrest USS Enterprise Captain Honor’s Career…
The latest Navy “scandal” provides an interesting look at the divide between Military and Civilian, between men and women, between what the protected want to believe about the Military and what the Military once was and traditions it has tried to pro…
January 5th, 2011 at 12:55 am
Wow, really? That is what everyone is having fits about? I thought some of it was pretty fuckin hysterical! Personally I think Capt Honors did a great job, even going so far as to parody himself. Now the fuckin libtards are ending his career because thay don’t have a damn sense of humor! Well fuck them and the donkeys they fuckin rode in on!
January 5th, 2011 at 1:49 am
OK folks this is creative genius at best…SouthPark, Family Guy..any mainstream movie we watch laugh about and discuss at work is worse..people who think this is bad live under an F__ing Rock…this is funny stuff..deserves an award.
Only thing offensive was they had hot showers and the chicks did not show their tits…that is F__ing sexual harrasment.
Capt Honors – Promote him for being honest and keeping with the finest traditions of our military. Leave social experiments and justification for human ambiguities to the Psychologists. The Military has a Mission and that Mission is not Political Correctness it is “Political Correction” after all of the politics have failed due to futile attempts to normalize insanity. Damn Opinionated Sanctimonious Saints
January 6th, 2011 at 12:10 am
After 22 years in the Navy and being the Judge at several Chief’s Initiations I can say without a doubt the video’s were moronic BS, but mild compared to the stunts allowed at Initiations prior to the Politicaly Correctness invading the Chief’s Mess. The acceptance of a new Chief by their peers is a unique experiance for the newbies. Today, because of the oversite by the wardroom’s new generation we might as well be like the other services and promote them and then ignore their “dumb shit actions” allowed because no one gives a F**K. I retired in 1982 but participate in all Chief’s Initiations I hear about because I want to tell them about the Navy I was in. Capt. Honor’s should be celebrated as a Credit to The Navy and the be honored by the Shitheads who are bad-mouthing him for the sake of Political Correctness.
January 6th, 2011 at 1:43 am
You tell ‘em Chief!
(Damn Jonn… we’re satarting to get more Bubbleheads here than grunts. I don’t feel so outnumbered now. LOL)
January 6th, 2011 at 1:44 am
Pardon me… SENIOR Chief. My bad.
January 6th, 2011 at 8:32 am
@ Bubblehead Ray and TMCS(SS) Robbie- As CAPT Honors would say, “Shut up, fag.” I kid, I kid, my father was Naval Air, ASW.
January 6th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Rant on:
I may throat punch the next asshead who compares this to McChrystal’s idiocy.
/rant
January 6th, 2011 at 11:41 am
BubbleheadRay and TMCS(SS) Robbie – I am the only person walking around the Pentagon with dolphins and a CIB. I’m a twofer.
January 6th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Guess we are going to stop telling our kids that sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me. This makes me want to walk up to the CNO and kick him in the balls. I probably would miss, cause no one that high on the food chain has them anymore.