Jose Guereña – An Update of sorts

| May 25, 2011

Others here have written more about this case,  but I stumbled across this at Pajamas Media:  dated today.  One paragraph struck me as particularly damning if true?

Perhaps Dupnik’s officers assumed every Hispanic accused of being a drug dealer really was one, and perhaps they assumed that the tenant of a home protecting his loved ones must be a bloodthirsty cartel member waiting in ambush. Is that why they gunned down a tired, hard-working father sleeping off a night shift at the local copper mine? A Marine veteran of Iraq that had the discipline not to fire — a discipline that a trigger-happy SWAT team which has now killed three men in less than a year cannot itself exercise?

Emphasis added by me.

TAH has discussed the lack of fire discipline, and the other fancy dancing various spin doctors are doing… but I’d missed the track record. YMMV

Added by Jonn: Frankly Opinionated sends this map from the Cato Institute of military-style raids by police. there are an awful lot of red and grey markers;

Category: The Guerena Killing

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  1. AW1 Tim says:

    This is a seriously FUBAR police team.

    I’ve said it for several years, and I will say it again: there is no damned reason for ANY police force to have these sorts of teams, weapons, training and uniforms.

    Police men should have sidearms and shotguns. They should have BP vests, but they should ALWAYS be wearing BLUE, never any military style “tactical” gear.

    I cannot think of a situation that would require forcible entry. Wait out whoever is in the house if you have to. Arrest them while they are away from the house. Serve the warrants while no one is home, or serve them at the person’s place of work, etc.

    If these guys want to play soldier, let them join the military. Otherwise, get rid of ALL that “tactical” crap.

    Go back to police work, investigations, intelligence, etc, and leave the brute force and MOUT stuff to the military.

    YMMV, but that’s how I see it.

  2. A Balrog of Morgoth says:

    I could see a few situations that require forcible entry. A few.

  3. Anonymous says:

    stinks. stinks all the way to heaven.

    and the smear campaign even reaches the blogosphere where any commentors who are police BLINDLY back these asshats who killed the marine. very disturbing.

  4. Old Trooper says:

    So, the police are supposed to protect us from the bad guys, but who is protecting us from the police?

  5. OldSoldier54 says:

    That map is … disturbing, to say the least.

  6. OS and OT particularly:

    Toss in the recent Indiana ruling and adapt.


  7. UpNorth says:

    Anon, #3, careful with generalizations, they usually prove to be not quite so true.

  8. OldSoldier54 says:

    Exactly. We are getting alarmingly close to having to ask ourselves the famous quote attributed to Plato in The Republic: “Quis custodiet ipsos custodes” translated; “Who will guard the guards?” or “Who shall watch the watchers themselves?”

    The Praetorians guarded (watched over) the Emperor and before during the Republic, Generals in the field, but who watches over them should they themselves become corrupt?

    The Social Contract which is the glue that binds our nation together is being increasingly strained by various stresses of which, IMO, that map is a perfect example. Idiots like those Pima County SWAT bozos, and that political whore Dupnik, appear to be completely blinded by their arrogance to the damage they are doing to that contract.

    As a result, trust in the police, the government, any person or organization in authority is becoming increasingly rare.

  9. DaveO says:

    Lots of blue there. Any stats on fratricide?

  10. streetsweeper says:

    #7 – That’s why #3 chose to use “Anonymous”, it knows generalizations don’t fly, lol.

    @ #9 – DaveO; The lone blue icon for Los Angeles is the only LAPD SWAT officer to be killed in the line of duty, barracaded subject shot him. Feb 2011

  11. streetsweeper says:

    I stand corrected, #9….CATO doesn’t list him.

  12. B Woodman says:

    Soooo. . . Based on Sheriff Dipshit’s performance, would it be wrong to call him (?) out as being a leftist racist??