IVAW to change name

One of you wonderful people posted this to Facebook. I’m more than sure that it’s satire since it says so at the top of the page, but I consider it a compliment, nonetheless;

Thanks to Paul Szoldra, a Marine veteran who wrote that. I needed a chuckle or two this morning.

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219 Responses to “IVAW to change name”

  1. 1
    NHSparky Says:

    Shit, now I need another cup of coffee and a towel for my monitor…

  2. 2
    Hondo Says:

    “We can basically protest anything.” Kinda says it all.

    These bozos need to get a life. Preferably one that involves something productive.

  3. 3
    madconducor Says:

    That hurts. I’m gonna have to lay down a while. My sides are aching.

  4. 4
    Hondo Says:

    For clarity: the “bozos” I was referencing is IVAV, not the satirist.

    The best satire is that which is so true it really stings. This IMO qualifies. (smile)

  5. 5
    Doc Bailey Says:

    well obviously that stigma isn’t true. Just ask most of the founding members. They never went to Iraq either.

    Hey John, maybe you should send them all McDonalds applications and a strong suggestion that now the war is over they should get jobs.

  6. 6
    Blue Cyclone Says:

    Love the part about needing “to change our name or get actual jobs”. Anything to prevent actually becoming a productive member of society.
    Thanks for the laugh Jonn, I needed it this morning..

  7. 7
    AW1 Tim Says:

    Well,

    At least they aren’t pretending to be supporting the country anymore. That whole socialist part throws them into the enemy of the state camp, with all the benefits that will occur as a result. :)

  8. 8
    PintoNag Says:

    I did fine until I got to the part about “There’s been this stigma, that if you haven’t been to Iraq…” That’s when I fell down laughing.

  9. 9
    Beretverde Says:

    Change their name back to the American Communist Party.

  10. 10
    CI Roller Dude Says:

    Was this from “The Onion?” funny as hell!

  11. 11
    Country Singer Says:

    A more appropriate name for them would be “Brotherhood United To Totally Promote Liberalism and Uphold Gasbags” aka BUTTPLUG.

  12. 12
    Flagwaver Says:

    So, the WVaoNVAAWWSBBGCT1AFTFOSO are the new name for the old game? Why not just call themselves Occupy Wall Street, since that is what they are?

    You can call it whatever you want, but shit, scat, poop, and turds all smell the same.

  13. 13
    Just Plain Jason Says:

    That had me going for a minute. I am trying to read this on my phone at the VA, so I need a chuckle.

  14. 14
    Jack Says:

    Change name or get a job.

    Sure cant do the latter so lets just do the former.

  15. 15
    Dave Thul Says:

    Can they shorten it to the ‘Knights Who Say Nee’?

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    NHSparky Says:

    They’ll just change it to, “The Knights Who Say Ecki Ecki Ecki Fa-KANG! Zoomgarwong” or “Until Recently Said Nee”.

  17. 17
    OldSoldier54 Says:

    Well. I guess he told you, Jonn. What a bowl full of dingleberries…

  18. 18
    malclave Says:

    I, for one, am looking forward to joining this re-imagined IVAW.

    What do we want?
    We don’t know!
    When do we want it?
    Now!

  19. 19
    UpNorth Says:

    Malclave, I think that’s been their chant from the first day of their existence.

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    Hart Viges Says:

    Sup Dudes,

    Point of Clarification for Doc Bailey. All but one Founding Member of IVAW set foot on Iraqi Soil.
    Founders of IVAW

    Michael Hoffman
    Mike was a Lance Corporal in the Marines who served with an Artillery Unit during the invasion of Iraq in March 2003. He currently lives outside of Philadelphia.

    Kelly Dougherty
    Kelly Dougherty joined the Colorado Army National Guard as a Medic in 1996. After serving in the Balkans, Kelly served as a Military Police Sergeant in Iraq from February 2003 – February 2004.

    Alex Ryabov
    Alex was born in Ukraine and, as a child, moved to NYC with his family where he currently resides. He served as a Corporal with the 1st Marine Division during the U.S. invasion of Iraq from March to May 2003. Alex is Vice Chair of the NYC chapter.

    Isaiah Pallos
    Isaiah was a Sergeant in the United States Marine Corps and served along side Michael Hoffman and Alex Rybov in the invasion of Iraq. He lives in Ohio with his wife and child.

    Diana Morrison
    Diana served in the U.S. Army, Army Reserve, and California National Guard for over ten years. She served in Iraq as a military policewoman.

    Tim Goodrich
    Tim’s unit deployed overseas to provide direct combat support for operations in Afghanistan and to participate in a bombing campaign in Iraq leading up to the official invasion in March 2003. After finishing his enlistment, Tim visited Iraq as part of a civilian fact-finding delegation in January of 2004.

    Jimmy Massey
    Jimmy was a career Staff Sergeant and Recruiter in the Marine Corps for 11 years, and is a combat veteran of the Iraq War where he served with the 7th Marines during the 2003 invasion of Iraq. His experiences in Iraq led him to oppose the occupation.

  21. 21
    NHSparky Says:

    Okay, Hart–how many of the current members (not founding) of IVAW have actually, you know, BEEN to Iraq?

    And since we’re no longer there, your point is, exactly?

  22. 22
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    @21. Hart’s point is that, in the beginning, before the IVAW morphed into a magnet for every miscreant, misfit, and malcontent in that “and/or non-veterans against all wars” organization, there were a few actual Veterans there.

  23. 23
    Hart Viges Says:

    To ansewer both of y’all not all of our members have been to Iraq. True. They have been to Afghanistan as well.
    Since y’all don’t use your real names I can’t tell if you have current experience at a IVAW event. I would have to bet no current experience with the organization. That would place you in iggnorence. We are all actual Veterans.
    If lies and being an asshole is what you do best then somebody failed in your raising.

  24. 24
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    @23. That “y’all” affect really has to go. On the other hand, your spelling of ignorance might signal that it is not something within your control. Thanks for playing!

  25. 25
    Green Thumb Says:

    @23.

    Stick it, maggot.

    IVAW are a bunch of posers and losers.

    A pile of shit (like yourself) by any other name is still a pile of shit.

  26. 26
    Twist Says:

    ” We are all actual Veterans”

    I call bullshit.

  27. 27
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    BoBo writes, “Since y’all don’t use your real names I can’t tell if you have current experience at a IVAW event. I would have to bet no current experience with the organization. That would place you in iggnorence.”

    Bwahahahahahah. Be advised, unless you were president of the United States, you can have no valid opinion of that office. Unless you were a senator or representative, or, I guess, were on the staff of one, you likewise can have no valid opinion of Congress. It works for orgs outside of gov’t too. Crazy words come from crazy thinkers. By the way, what is IVAW going to change its name to, the Amalgamated Unicornists of America?

  28. 28
    Anonymous Says:

    They’ve all been to Afghanistan? Hmm? For, like, a six day trip to Baskin Robbins? I’m-a-combat-veteran-no-matter-what-anyone-thunks kind of thing? Inside the wire but outside the truth? Hmm? Still living in delusion? LOL reality check.

  29. 29
    Hondo Says:

    “That would place you in iggnorence.”

    Can’t. Stop. Laughing. Sides. Hurt.

    But the next sentence was almost as funny: “We are all actual veterans.”

    Thanks, Viges – you just made my day!

  30. 30
    Nik Says:

    @27

    2/17, since I, in fact, have never burgled a turd, and I’m guessing you haven’t either, we aren’t allowed to form an opinion of that unwashed mass of, actual turd-burglers.

  31. 31
    Blanka Says:

    Pillaging poop – an honor and a privilege… Never underestimate the magnificent history and power that turds have had over the land of olfaction, for then ye shall smell foul defeat.

  32. 32
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    Hart: “But, but, mommy, they all laughed at me. They made fun of me, those bad, bad people at TAH.”

    Mom: “And, son, what did you do to make them do that?”

    Hart: “Nothing, Mom. Honest. I didn’t.”

    Mom: “Here, have some milk and a cookie. And stay away from those bad people, okay?”

    Mom: “Okay, Mommy. They’re all iggnorrent anyway.”

  33. 33
    OWB Says:

    Does walking across the floor above some moon rocks displayed in a museum on the floor below count as having “set foot on the moon?”

  34. 34
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    1. Michael Hoffman
    2. Kelly Dougherty
    3. Alex Ryabov
    4. Isaiah Pallos
    5. Diana Morrison
    6. Tim Goodrich
    7. Jimmy Massey

    What do they all have in common?

    All non-career, junior, marginal performers (at best), and quite frankly non-impressive in terms of military accomplishments as compared to their peers.

    The Seven Muskatools!

  35. 35
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    My cat was sound asleep in my lap until I read this farce. Then I laughed loud and hard and she launched herself off my lap.

    January has been a rough month. Thanks for posting this piece, JL.

    Does taking a day cruise on the Lexington at Pensacola make me part of an attack squadron?

  36. 36
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    @26. “I think the genius meant to say, “We are all veteran actuaries.”

  37. 37
    Hart Viges Says:

    LOL can’t spell , message got through though LOL

  38. 38
    Hart Viges Says:

    I post in a lot of places and I can truly say I haven’t felt this kind of love in a long time. 82nd Brothers Forever!! LOL

  39. 39
    USMCE8Ret Says:

    This stuff is TRULY hysterical. I love it when older posts are revived and see the new comments.

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    Southern Class Says:

    I watch to see the posts about IVAW. I can count on comedy every time. That is about all that the IVAW has to offer, being the joke that the organization is.
    “We are all actual Veterans.” “Veterans” covers a lot of territory. I see that he didn’t precede it with “Combat”.

  41. 41
    Hart Viges Says:

    Sup Southern Class. I’m a Combat Veteran and I’m not the only one. We can nit pick on all sorts of stuff to keep this going. I have a side bet with a few friends on which part of my latest stuff to be 1. Nit Picked 2. Name Calling 3. Use your imagination LOL

  42. 42
    Green Thumb Says:

    @41.

    Get lost, maggot.

    If you were a real combat vet, you would not associate with those turds.

    Beat it.

  43. 43
    rb325th Says:

    IVAW.. Idiot Veterans who forgot they enlisted for more than college money, and fakes, phonies, as well as assorted moonbats…. about covers it I think.

  44. 44
    JP Says:

    Idiots
    Assholes
    Vaginas
    Wackjobs

    It really is that simple.

  45. 45
    JP Says:

    Oops. I meant:

    Idiots
    Vaginas
    Assholes
    Wackjobs.

    Fixed..just so you IVAW hippies have one less thing to cry about.

  46. 46
    NHSparky Says:

    @23–I would have to bet no current experience with the organization.

    Yup, and I don’t need to jump into a pile of shit to know it stinks, either.

  47. 47
    Green Thumb Says:

    I wonder if “Snake Eyes” Jordan is within their esteemed ranks…

  48. 48
    OWB Says:

    Could give you a list of those groups with whom I have no current experience. There’s are reasons for it for most of the actual veterans I know – past behavior absent any evidence to indicate a change in behavior is a clue concerning reasonable expectation of future behavior. In addition, the stench of those with whom you associate does rub off so folks just naturally don;t want to have any current experience with you. Well, other than pointing and laughing.

    It’s tough for some to grasp, but out here in the real world, that’s still how it works.

  49. 49
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    @30 & 31 — I have the feeling that this, too, shall pass.

  50. 50
    Southern Class Says:

    Idiotic
    Vermin
    And
    Wankers

  51. 51
    Hart Viges Says:

    Green Thumb makes a #2 the winner. I just made $100!! Thanks Brother
    All this haterade just makes me :-)

  52. 52
    Hart Viges Says:

    @51 LOL

  53. 53
    Hart Viges Says:

    I have a side bet with a few friends on which part of my latest stuff to be 1. Nit Picked 2. Name Calling 3. Use your imagination LOL

    Just like last time. Raising bets. Now remember….all money raised will now go to IVAW.

    Come and support IVAW with idiotic comments. The more juicy the more $$$ will go to IVAW!!

  54. 54
    Hart Viges Says:

    @32 LOL Now that was using your imagination. Good Job

  55. 55
    NHSparky Says:

    all money raised will now go to IVAW.

    From whom? Not like you’re getting any from us.

    Come and support IVAW with idiotic comments.

    Idiotic comments for idiotic people. Fair’s fair.

  56. 56
    Hart Viges Says:

    Money from my Rich Liberal Friends. Big Donor List of IVAW. A great way to raise money in a fun way.

    Had a little conference chat. This is how it goes. Each comment raises 100 dollars. If you nitpick on spelling and grammer 125. If name calling is used 150. If both 200!!
    But get this one. Any new thread of y’alls talking anything about IVAW is a whooping 500!!

    Just talked it over and your comment Ms.NHSparkey just raised IVAW 100 Dollars!!

    Thanks Ms.NHSparkey!!

  57. 57
    NHSparky Says:

    Okay, scooter. I hate to tell ya, but Monopoly money doesn’t count.

    Nor do some of the “qualifications” of most of the members of your (ahem) organization.

  58. 58
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    And all the time I thought Hart was here to recruit! A good product or organization sells itself. That explains, in great part, why the gun makers and the NRA are rolling in dough and the Amalgamated Unicornists of America (formerly IVAW) is scrounging around for pennies.

  59. 59
    teddy996 Says:

    I’ll make IVAW some cash, Hart. I’ll help you guys out, because I’m in a charitable mood:

    Go fuck yourself, you cowardly douche. You fucks who are “current” members must have certainly joined after the invasion of Iraq, which means that you knew exactly what you were getting into when you signed up for duty. Suck it up, you ritalin-addled attention whores. The vast majority of us here have deployed, and we don’t give a fuck that you couldn’t hack it.

    No one here cares that it didn’t turn out to be as fun as your videogame told you it was going to be.

    No one here cares that you missed your family, that you lost your girlfriend, or that you knew someone who was killed, because most of us here have had those things happen to us as well. The difference is that we did not see the need to cry about it for attention from hipsters and socialists.

    No one here gives a flying fuck about your current membership, because your past membership has ruined the name of your precious organization. Outright fakes and non-theater veterans pretending to have been overseas, being used on national television as official spokesmen for IVAW, have permanently damaged it’s reputation with real veterans. Your brand is tainted, cocksucker, and resurrecting year old threads on milblogs does little to endear it.

    Insufferable dick bags like yourself, who come in to TAH dropping bullshit words like “y’all” in an attempt to lend themselves some sort of “in the trenches” street cred, can fuck right off with that pretentious shit.

    TAH’s “new threads” about your steaming pile of shit organization have to come from years past, because IVAW is no longer relevant in anyone’s eyes. So keep digging up old threads about IVAW on blogs hostile to your poser bullshit in an attempt to stay relevant and “fresh”, because everyone knows that not even the socialists at ANSWER give a shit about you anymore. IVAW is as irrelevant as it has ever been, and your broken-down, threadbare membership rolls are proof that the smartest among you have moved on.

    I hope the money you raise from this response rockets you clowns back into the limelight, like in the heady days of Rick Strandlof’s tenure. I believe the whole country deserves to mock you idiots, not just veterans at milblogs.

    Now, you wet sack of syphilitic crotch juice, you can print this off and go fellate your masters for money. I hope that they stiff you on the payout, leaving you with just a little less pride and a warm load in your mouth. Then you’d know how Uncle Sam felt the day they discharged you.

  60. 60
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    Okay, we need a volunteer to sweep up the itsy-bitsy pieces that Teddy996 just made of Hart and Company.

  61. 61
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Are they doing this because scary sKerry protested the Vietnam war and lied his ass off while he was at it?

    Geez, the guys I knew who’d been in country and survived all said they had no interest in sitting around crying about the war.

    These clunks make it far too easy to mock them right to their faces.

  62. 62
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    I still can’t get over the banner: That “And/Or Non-Veterans” is a scream. That just had to be the brainchild of either a law school dropout or a legal studies major.

  63. 63
    Hondo Says:

    2/17 Air Cav: yeah, it looks like those “wealthy donors” at Occupy Seattle will be crying in their latte and opening their wallets after reading the above. After they wake up around noon local, of course.

    Whether they’ll have enough in said wallets even to pay for their lattes is another question.

    Viges did mention he’s commenting from the Seattle area, didn’t he?

  64. 64
    O-4E Says:

    @59 – teddy996

    Well played Sir…well played

  65. 65
    rb325th Says:

    #59 Teddy996 hits the nail on the head, and drives it home.

  66. 66
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    He’s raising money? I think he’s got the decimal points in the wrong place. Shouldn’t it be $1.00, $1.25, $1.50 and $2.00?

    Otherwise, it comes off as awfully grandiose and borderline something.

  67. 67
    Hart Viges Says:

    Oh man, this is a lot of math. Lets see ten comments 1,000. NitPicking fee 25 for that y’all comment. What is it?…. y’all are a bunch of yankees? Name calling fee 250, thanks ted ;-)

    Well that is alot of money. To ansewer your question Ted or should I say Teddy. Money will go to the reparation fund, operation recovery, and new project around counter recuitment.

    So don’t stop now and fuck a latte, I drink mocha’s LOL

    Peace, Y’all

  68. 68
    NHSparky Says:

    Teddy–don’t hold back, man. Tell us how you REALLY feel.

  69. 69
    Hart Viges Says:

    Brothers, I really wish y’all would chill out. Yet I have come to know no one can wish to control anything outside of us. The only freedom/control we have is over ourselves. I know we will always take hits being called names like we are all back in JuniorHigh. That life. The foundation of my Rebellion is Jesus Christ. If y’all want to judge that its all good. Love your enemy, right? But I don’t even see y’all as an enemy. When I am in the schools talking to students, in offices talking to politicians, on the phone with GI Rights hotline helping people get out, Y’all are not there. Y’all are just words on a screen. You are not in the streets. You hide behind online names. You are not on my front door. So keep hating. All that hate just makes my teeth white :-)

  70. 70
    Hart Viges Says:

    Oh yea. Latest Thanks to NHSparkey for helping IVAW raise $100!!!

  71. 71
    Southern Class Says:

    Dollars to donuts says that the money raisin’ claims are as bogus as Methis’ combat service claims.
    Idiotic
    Vermin
    And
    Wankers
    Nothing more, nothing less.

  72. 72
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    See? I knew HV had those decimal places all wrong!

  73. 73
    Green Thumb Says:

    IVAW are losers.

    Look at the clowns in their ranks, to include this turd.

    Wow.

    I can only imagine the money they are raising is going to a sex change operation for one of their bretheren, er…uh…sisteren?

    Anyway, clowns they are.

  74. 74
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    Holy Hannah! Hart isn’t enthralled with himself, is he? No, not at all. I can see his wall now. There’s a picture of him–oh, and there’s another, and another, and another. Look! There’s one with someone else in the photo! He so very much admires him. And who can blame him? He does such wonderful things. No one here does anything to help anyone. He is the Mother Teresa of Veterans. He wishes we could be more like him. But, you know, if we were to do what he does, for the reasons he does, before we slit our own throats, that is, he would be upset. Why? Because he is the be all and end all. He is the one with all the answers. And when one is as he is, there is absolutely no room for another. The thrown accomodates only one.

  75. 75
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    Last line in cmt 74. That thing a king puts his butt on. I now see thrown is wrong but I can’t recall how to spell the one I meant. Fill it in for me, please. Thanks.

  76. 76
    Hart Viges Says:

    What does your wall look like 2/17? Damn…looking up my FB….kinda creepy but ok.

    What do y’all do other than post words? I would like to know so when anyone bad mouths y’all I can point out the good that you do.

    If everyone was like me Life would get really boring. Diversity is a blessing to life. I take it you are not Christian 2/17. I dont have a crown nor do I want one. I was told to bear my cross though. Judge not yet ye be Judged, Condemn not yet ye be Condemned.- Jesus

  77. 77
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    AirCav – it’s ‘throne’, as in commode, shitter, toilet.

    To heartless — Pride goeth before a fall.

  78. 78
    Hart Viges Says:

    Pride is a tricky beast. And do we not do some of our best thinking when we take a dump. LOL

  79. 79
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    You know that middle finger you have on each hand? Jam both of them where the sun don’t shine, sugahballs!

  80. 80
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    And make it sideways.

  81. 81
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    Hartebeast: Eventually, if you keep coming back, the veil will fall. It always does when pretentious clowns show up here to display their imagined superiority. I got close but couldn’t get the bite I expected. But before you are prescibed the anti-psychotic meds (or another schedule of them) you’ll show your true colors. Never fails. You won’t disappoint, if you keep coming back.

    Ex-PH2: Throne. Thrown. Got it. Thanks.

  82. 82
    Green Thumb Says:

    @78.

    Maggot Boy,

    If you are truly representing IVAW, then you are failing.

    This is the sort of thing that has become common with your “group”.

    If you truly are an IVAW member, then post your email.

    I will contact you and your supervisors.

    There is the glove; willing to take it, fraud?

  83. 83
    IVAW "Vets" Says:

    Let us not forget: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTCSx8Cdum8

  84. 84
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    Who the hell is gonna touch that link if it’s from IVAW? It’s probably virus riddled at best.

  85. 85
    IVAW "Vets" Says:

    It’s about their lying members. I put Vets in “” for a reason. Take a look.

  86. 86
    OWB Says:

    In response to the question if all we do is post words – no, sometimes we post pics.

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    Hart Viges Says:

    You bring up Mathis to attack me? LOL Two different people bros. I have a content mind knowing that he is no longer a member of IVAW.

    Post my e-mail? Post your Real Name.

    But here you go. hartviges@gmail.com. Heres my address 1820 Minor Ave. Seattle WA

    Do y’all have the balls to do the same?

  88. 88
    Hart Viges Says:

    Prove me a fraud. Good luck with that. And all the money raised by your comments I greatly Thank Y’all

  89. 89
    NHSparky Says:

    The fact that he and Carl Webb, et al, were even members at all is telling though, isn’t it?

  90. 90
    Hondo Says:

    NHSparky: I generally don’t follow groups of misfits closely, so please – refresh my memory. Both Webb and Mathis were IVAW members in good standing at one time, right? And both left IVAW voluntarily vice getting thrown out, right? And Mathis was a member of the IVAW Board of Directors when he burned the US flag back in 2010, right?

    By the way, Viges: if I recall correctly, Mathis still meets membership qualifications for your “august” organization. That is, he has the requisite one day in any component of the US military (active or reserve) anywhere in the world after 9/11/2001. Unlike the name implies, there’s really no requirement that IVAW members actually be an Iraq veteran.

  91. 91
    Green Thumb Says:

    You missed the supervisor part, turd muncher.

    List that.

    Waiting on you, turd pusher.

    IVAW is a fraud, and so are you.

  92. 92
    Green Thumb Says:

    Clown.

    And I am closer than you think.

  93. 93
    NHSparky Says:

    IIRC, Hondo, I think Webb got tossed, but not 100 percent sure.

  94. 94
    IVAW "Vets" Says:

    Lets look at current members

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ktVhDCpVEE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQEN2bSisPc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TRCZKF9xnU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgQSoz-ncKI

  95. 95
    SEAhorse Says:

    People from Seattle don’t say y’all. Another phony outed. Resource: Living in Seattle for the first 22 years of my life

  96. 96
    Hondo Says:

    NHSparky: correct – but not because he lied his way in. He was apparently pitched because he “didn’t play well with others” in IVAW. They were fine with him advocating the death of US troops deployed to Iraq and being a Communist.

    http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=15924

  97. 97
    Green Thumb Says:

    @95.

    That text / deposition appears to have the ear-markings of any good Communist Politburo….

    IVAW sucks.

  98. 98
    Hondo Says:

    GT: if they suck just as much as they blow, does that mean they’re in static or dynamic equilibrium? (smile)

  99. 99
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Imploding, perhaps?

    Y’all… I really thought he was misspelling the common name for a jolly-boat.

  100. 100
    Hondo Says:

    Ex-PH2: something that is imploding is in neither static nor dynamic equilibrium. (smile)

  101. 101
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Ah! Yes. ;)

  102. 102
    Sporkmaster Says:

    If you are still reading these comments Hart Viges can you comment on the statements made by Kris Goldsmith, Micheal Kern, Casey J Porter, Christopher Raissi Jeffrey C. Peskoff Brandon Neely and Chuck Luther about the IVAW’s membership.

  103. 103
    Hart Viges Says:

    I’m was raised in Texas but since the invention of airplanes and cars we have been able to move to other places like Seatle. So Green Thunb, you are close eh? What am I supposed to be scared?

  104. 104
    Hart Viges Says:

    Seattle and Thumb how about that LOL

  105. 105
    A_Proud_Infidel Says:

    Impotent
    Virgin
    Ass
    Wipes

    FUCK ‘EM ALL to death up their asses sideways with a broken broomstick while they’re sitting and spinning on a rusty, tangled, diarrhea-soaked pile of concertina wire right after they’ve been violently and sadistically cornholed by both a Grizzly Bear with AIDS and the sonofabitch that was mean enough to give it to him!!

  106. 106
    Hondo Says:

    Sporkmaster: don’t hold your breath waiting. People of his ilk generally change the subject when confronted with inconvenient facts.

  107. 107
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Texas, huh?

    Then y’all must know about huckydummy and son-of-a-gun-in-the-sack.

  108. 108
    Hondo Says:

    Ex-PH2: I’m guessing Texas was glad to see him go, and probably told him “Don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya” when he left.

  109. 109
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Hondo, he’s no better than he should be, bless his heart.

  110. 110
    Hondo Says:

    I don’t think this tool even rates a “bless your heart”.

  111. 111
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Trust me, Hondo, it is not what it seems to be on the surface.

  112. 112
    Hondo Says:

    I was raised in the South, Ex-PH2. I know exactly what the phrase “bless your heart” means in that context.

    This tool doesn’t IMO rate it. He knows exactly what he’s doing and the nature of the jackwagons he’s involved with. He’s OK with that because he’s cut from the same cloth they are.

  113. 113
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Thank you for the heads-up on that, Hondo.

  114. 114
    Green Thumb Says:

    I would not be scared, I would be concerned.

    And you address is bogus.

  115. 115
    Green Thumb Says:

    Here he is, folks.

    The man, the myth, the legend….

    Hart Viges!

    http://www.ivaw.org/blog/rules-engagement/hart-viges

  116. 116
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Holy crap!

    Not something I want to see before breakfast. Or afterwards. Or ever.

    Geezo-Pete.

  117. 117
    Green Thumb Says:

    This guy is a loser.

  118. 118
    Hart Viges Says:

    Faced with facts? Thats a good one. Bogus Address? Prove it.

    Wow ……so no one posted their e-mail or address. Real brave. You guys can hide behind your computers. What else do y’all do by the way?

    Or am I changing the subject confusing you fucktards LOL I really mean that in a Brotherly way. Unless I’m talking to some dirty nasy legs or POG’s. So which is it?

  119. 119
    Hondo Says:

    Yes, Viges – when faced with facts. You still haven’t commented on the matter Sporkmaster raised, nor have you addressed the similar issue I raised. You’ve changed the subject instead.

    Like you just did again in your last comment above, dipstick.

    Why no names? Most probably do it for the same reason you don’t use your actual given name, Benjamin – because they prefer not to. Or maybe they simply prefer their privacy. Or because it’s none of your business. Or because they can. Those are among my reasons.

    By the way: when those nice Asian “businessmen” leave you a 1000-won note as a tip for serving their table, remember: the exchange rate is somewhat north of 1070 won to the dollar. That makes 1000 won a bit less than a dollar, “Bennie”.

  120. 120
    Green Thumb Says:

    http://couragetoresist.org/about/our-friends/291-hart-viges.html

    Oh yeah, this is it!

    He reminds me of the ponytailed teacher on “King of the Hill”.

  121. 121
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    Hey, living in Seattle is expensive! The Balfour Apartments charge nearly $900/month for a 357-428 sq. ft. broom closet! Wow. That sure ain’t Texas. And G.T. was right. He didn’t give his address. There’s an apartment number he omitted. Or maybe he’s practicing for the next Occupiers effort by sleeping in a dumpster behind the apartments. Who knows? Better still, who cares? I am curious as to why he stopped here, though. But I can live with not knowing. It was worth it just to see the “and/or Non-Veterans” sign.

  122. 122
    Hondo Says:

    Seems as if “Bennie-boy” has some other interesting experiences in his past, too. And some interesting friends.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176291,00.html

    Oh, and that bit about him being “raised in Texas”? Dunno if I wanna buy that, either. The Austin Chronicle says he’s not a native Texan.

    http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2008-12-19/717789/

  123. 123
    MCPO on MCPO's NYC (Ret.) Says:

    @ 103 … Since the invention of the toilet … might I recommend that you insert your head in such an invention, shake your head and facial hair vigorously from left to right, flush, and repeat until you have reached a level of cleanieness that would permit you to enter here without stinking the place to Holy High Heaven!

  124. 124
    Twist Says:

    HV’s comments sound like they belong in a yahoo comments section.

  125. 125
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Well, if you’re a native Texan, you were born there. It’s the reason you do things like drink iced tea in a blizzard.

  126. 126
    Green Thumb Says:

    The irony is that most of these guys were lower enlisted.

  127. 127
    Hart Viges Says:

    Hey dumbasses. I was raised in Texas is not the same as I was born in Texas. And I guess I didn’t want to give my apartment number for the same reason y’all hide your real names. Y’all can always wait for me at the front gate, if you are into that stalker thing.

    You guys want to know so much about me while y’all haven’t reveal jack shit. Sounds like cowardly actions to me. But don’t take my word for it, just look in the mirror.

    So I take it y’all arn’t Christians. Anyone Christian here?

  128. 128
    Sporkmaster Says:

    Since you did not reply to my question before I will repost it.

    If you are still reading these comments Hart Viges can you comment on the statements made by Kris Goldsmith, Micheal Kern, Casey J Porter, Christopher Raissi Jeffrey C. Peskoff Brandon Neely and Chuck Luther about the IVAW’s membership. All of these were former members of the IVAW.

    I am not, I am a atheist since the mid 1990s.

  129. 129
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    1 – Regarding religious preferences: Episcopal C. of E.

    2 – Regarding stalking: who would want to?

    3 – The golden rule is “Do unto others as thou wouldst have them do unto you.” You came in here with an abusive attitude. You got what you gave out. Golden rule followed.

    4 – I was BORN in Texas — Denton, to be exact. I am a native Texan. You aren’t.

  130. 130
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    Well, we’re making some progress. The veil slipped a tad.

  131. 131
    Twist Says:

    1. What does anyone’s religion, or lack of, have to do with anything? Do you think that if somebody is a Christian that they should stand by and say nothing when somebody comes into their house and shits on their floor.

    2. You overuse of the contraction “y’all” shows that you are trying too hard to be some down home country boy. I use that word all the time while speaking, yet I can count on my hands how many times that I have actually typed it out.

  132. 132
    A Proud Infidel Says:

    @2/17, PH2: Are any of these so-called “Vets” from whatever-it’s-called-now anything other than REMF dirtbags that spent more time “shamming” and avoiding work & Article 15′s more than anything else?

  133. 133
    Hondo Says:

    Not even a nice try at deflection, Bennie-boy.

    I never said you claimed to be a “native-born” Texan. I said that I wasn’t sure I believed your claim of being raised in Texas. I then added the fact that the Austin Chronicle stated you were not a native Texan. You apparently then assumed I was equating the two.

    In other words: you swallowed the bait. Assumptions can really bite you in the ass sometimes, can’t they?

    If you had actually bothered to read and comprehend what’s there, you’d have seen there’s a difference between what I wrote and what you apparently thought I said. You made a mistake that someone with a 5th grade reading comprehension level should be ashamed to make. Perhaps you should check into some remedial reading classes. Or maybe just leave the smug attitude of “superiority” – which is obviously undeserved – behind and actually read what people here are saying.

    Oh, and the “hey dumbasses” remark was truly apropos for a former “chaplain” and aspiring divinity student. They’re truly the words of a good Christian, too. Or were those claims lies as well?

    Now, how about you quit obfuscating and respond to the issues Sporkmaster and I raised above? Or are you admitting by default that you have no good answer, and that the former members of IVAW who’ve publicly criticized the organization after resigning are 100% correct?

  134. 134
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    @133. Wasn’t that a song, Bennie and/or the Non-Vets? Sure it was. Elton John!

    @132. Infidel! The IVAW is rather legendary around here and among military Veterans generally, in a notorious sort of way. Their history is to represent themselves to the public as combat Veterans who (background violins, please) discovered that their military service made them nothing more than useful pawns in a great corporate and conservative political conspiracy scheme. They then set about to share their newfound truth with the world. Of course, where lies and misrepresentations aided the GREAT CAUSE OF TRUTH, well, that was just the cost of doing business. There’s a great deal of stuff available through the search box here. It should keep you reading for a solid week!

  135. 135
    Hondo Says:

    Infidel: 2/17 Air Cav’s advice is sound. A good starting point would be the links in Sporkmaster’s comment 128 – which Benjamin for some reason doesn’t want to talk about. Also search for “Carl Webb” and “Matthis Chiroux” in the search box. They’re two more “stellar” former IVAW members. (Well, Webb got pitched; not positive about Chiroux, though he’s no longer on their Board of Directors.) Between Sporkmaster’s links and those, you’ll get the gist of things.

  136. 136
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Why is it that these attention whores are so consistently boring, obnoxious, and smug?

    I can embellish what I said regarding stalking: not even if I’m upwind wearing a gas mask. Not worth the time I can put on important things.

  137. 137
    OWB Says:

    All you really need to know is that most of them are useful idiots, while some are avowed communists. They hang out with Code Pink et al. So, ueah, they have access to some deep pockets.

    Are we having fun yet?

  138. 138
    OWB Says:

    Or even, “So, yeah. they…)

  139. 139
    OWB Says:

    (Oh, forget it – you know what I meant there!)

  140. 140
    Hart Viges Says:

    @128 Wow that a lot of reading LOL People quit for many reasons. For Goldsmith, Raissi, Peskoff, Neely, and Luther and their causes to leave half either left IVAW, THANKS FUCKING GOD!! Or organizational barriers being swiped aside. For the Membership Corrdinator position in New York ,as run by Selena Coppola, will be transfered to the Organization Team of eight which will be able to track validity so we can stop Stolen Valor within our organization.

    @129 Check my first comment on this thread, I see no abusive language. That and I never said I was a native Texas just Raised in Texas. Notice the differnt letters in native, born, and raised. Now whip out a dictionary…..

    @131 Our Faith is a foundation of our ethics in how we relate to the world. Love your enemy equates to stopping war. I overuse Y’all? Nitpicking aren’t we? I understand why people hide their accent or type in whatever. I have done it in the past but now I just don’t care. Does that explain that?

    @133 Respect

    @136 look at 74,82,92 Mr Green Thumb

    You guys have been great. The money raised with your comments have official stopped. Y’all were having them go broke. WOW

  141. 141
    Hart Viges Says:

    Oh wow ….my comments are awaiting moderation. Freedom of Speech!!! LOL

  142. 142
    Jonn Lilyea Says:

    Don’t flatter yourself, Hart. The spam filter thought you looked like spam. Thanks for reviving an old post that had absolutely nothing to do with anything, by the way.

  143. 143
    TSO Says:

    Remember when I praised Hart and told people to contact him if they wanted out instead of contacting Branum? And I said how much I respected him?

    YEah, I take that back.

  144. 144
    Jonn Lilyea Says:

    I’m pretty sure that Hart would find nothing but praise for him on this blog, well, up until a few days ago when he began proving that he wasn’t deserving of it. But that would take some research on his part. And he’d have to set aside his preconceived notions.

  145. 145
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    From Their Web Suck:

    Our main accomplishments in 2012:

    •We mobilized close to 50 members at the NATO Summit to throw away their medals in protest of the continued war in Afghanistan.

    BRAVO ZULU – let us know what change that brings for veterans and our society!

  146. 146
    Hondo Says:

    Bennie-boy: Respect? So far you haven’t shown you deserve any. You’ve bobbed and weaved, avoided questions, dissembled short of outright lying, and in general acted like a self-important hypocritical jerk that feels it’s “beneath him” to talk with us and is to lazy to read what others here wrote.

    In short, you’ve acted like most of the other folks from IVAW profiled here at TAH.

    Want respect? Show me you deserve respect first. Then maybe you’ll receive it. Until then – don’t hold your breath.

  147. 147
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    He’s kind of like one of those big black flies that showup out of nowhere in the winter and dive bomb you, and then go pound against the closed window. He zooms in here to see if anyone is paying any attention, makes a noise, and zooms out.

    But now, since his ‘benefactors’ (and I use that term loosely) have gone away — no more money — we can insult him all we want. No more money in his pocket. Must have raised a whole $15 or so.

  148. 148
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    Hart wrote, “THANKS FUCKING GOD!!”

    Well, if that doesn’t qualify him as a true disciple, nothing does. The veil dropped.

  149. 149
    Hart Viges Says:

    LOL Well I was just tired of preaching to the choir. Y’all are more fun. A cursing chaplain. I guess I was inspired by Sam Kineson. I really don’t look for praise here, please don’t be that stupid. I’m just amazed on how my comments garner so much response. Its really flattering but y’all aren’t my type…..really.
    Zoom out? LOL Zoom IN!!
    Don’t take me too hard y’all. What was it? IVAW is worthless? Then why all this attention? We must really get under y’alls skin.
    I do feel bad about the names I called y’all. Emotions got the better of me. You have to understand, using fake names and hiding who you are while using foul language towards people I love got me riled up a bit. Lucky I am in my years, not to take y’all that seriously…….seriously. Words on a screen, exspecially this one, is for entertainment only.
    Please advise. I am having too much fun to leave. Peace Y’all

  150. 150
    Hart Viges Says:

    Oh and if I have not ansewered your question please be understanding. There are a lot of y’all responding. If I don’t get to y’all maybe it would be wise to ask nicely. yea kindly can work too.
    Yo Hondo!! Respect ;-)

  151. 151
    A_Proud_Infidel Says:

    @2/17, Hondo, Thanks for the brief, I just recently discovered this site, and I’ve had my nose buried in it since!!

  152. 152
    A_Proud_Infidel Says:

    HEY Hartie, hear that? Yes, your Mommy’s calling for you to take your tinfoil hat off and come up out of the basement, she just made you a yummy peanut butter sandwich and some Kool-Aid. There you go, GOOOD BOY!! Now play nice, and Mommy will let you have a cupcake!

  153. 153
    NHSparky Says:

    @127…if you are into that stalker thing

    Nah, that’s more up DeWald’s alley, since apparently he knows my real name and address. You know him, right? Jon DeWald, on the IVAW board, bit of a police record, never served in Iraq, cashiered?

    That Jon DeWald?

  154. 154
    NHSparky Says:

    Sam Kineson

    That’s Kinison. But I’ll give you a break since you never saw the guy live and you were probably all of about 6 when the guy kicked, but whatever.

  155. 155
    Hart Viges Says:

    Sorry…no Jon Dewald on the board. Can’t spell but the message got through……great detective work solving that puzzle LOL

  156. 156
    Hondo Says:

    Viges: The fact that DeWald is no longer on the IVAW board is true. It is also irrelevant.

    In fact, DeWald is no longer a member of IVAW. However, that doesn’t alter the fact that he was at one time and held high leadership positions within IVAW. It also doesn’t change the fact that DeWald never served in Iraq or in any other combat-zone assignment. The closest he ever got to serving in combat appears to have been . . . Poland. The fact that you refuse to disavow DeWald’s inane and troubling conduct while he was in leadership positions at IVAW – and appear to be deliberately sidestepping the issue when confronted – argues strongly that you at least tolerate if not condone such conduct when it furthers IVAW’s organizational aims.

    DeWald’s lack of combat service and outrageous, out-of-control conduct while a member of IVAW’s leadership are documented in many places, even if IVAW no longer has reference to him on its website. But these two should be sufficient to make my point:

    http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=1176

    http://keohane.blogspot.com/2008/03/ivaw-youve-got-problem.html

    Wiping your site and hoping no one remembers a pretty pathetic attempt to hide the truth, “y’all”. The IVAW may attempt an Orwellian “rectification” of history here to hide the truth, but the Internet remembers – for a loooooong time.

    Different subject: lying and dissembling is not how one earns respect, “Bennie”. Neither is losing one’s self-control.

    And idolizing a former pastor turned foul-mouthed comic is telling as well. You were aware that Kinison quit the ministry before he became a famous comic and began publicly (and, some would say, sacrilegiously) denigrating religion as a part of his schtick, right?

    Remove the log from your own eye first, hypocrite. Then you might have reason to tell others they have a speck in their eye.

  157. 157
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    Hart. Why are you a member of IVAW? What is it that IVAW offers you and the world that is different than the myriad organizations that share IVAW’s objectives?

  158. 158
    teddy996 Says:

    This is what I was talking about in my magnanimous fundraiser speech in #59, Hart. IVAW was, at one time, populated with frauds and criminals. The vast majority of your well-meaning members left after realizing that IVAW had more frauds and non-combat vets making speeches to cameras than actual Iraq war vets. IVAW’s reputation took a heavy hit in it’s early years as a result. IVAW sacrificed their credibility for short-term publicity, and you’re witnessing the results here at TAH.

    Trolling for dollars does not signify that you’re ready to acknowledge IVAW’s credibility problems, both past and current, and that you’re seriously considering steps to fix your reputation in the veteran community. It enforces the image we have that you just don’t give a damn who shows up to rallies, just as long as you get people to dress out as “vets” in front of the cameras.

    Classic Potemkin Village type shit, that seems to be all too common with those on the left side of the political spectrum.

  159. 159
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    You can drop the phony use of ‘y’all’. You aren’t from Texas now. You never were.

    Inspired by Sam Kinison? Don’t insult the dead. You can’t hold a candle or anything else to him. I’ve seen Sam Kinison live and you are decidedly not in his league.

    I know everything’s bigger in Texas, but in your case it certainly does not include your brain or your dick, you Yankee peckerwood.

  160. 160
    Hondo Says:

    Sure he’s from Texas, Ex-PH2. In Seattle, he’s about 1,370 miles from El Paso. (smile)

  161. 161
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    And sincerely I hope he stays away FROM Texas. :)

  162. 162
    Twist Says:

    “I know everything’s bigger in Texas”

    Hey if you cut Alaska in half Texas would be the third largest State. :)

  163. 163
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Twist: P)

  164. 164
    Twist Says:

    ” IVAW is worthless? Then why all this attention?”

    It may have escaped your notice, but this topic was dead and nobody was giving it any attention until you reserected it.

  165. 165
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    Are we still on this?

    OK … IVAW = IDIOT VOLUNTEERS AGAINST WAR

  166. 166
    Hart Viges Says:

    @156 I have no log in my eye!! I do not hate Y’all. Dont get this mixed up. I any organization there are growing pains. After being around for eight years we have learned a lot. And we ain’t done yet.

    @157 As a Christian I left the Army as a CO. I felt I had to bear my Cross and continue to Object to the war. When I joined IVAW back in March 2005 I found a family. I have never felt so comfortable. This was before Webb and Chiroux and Dewald. Even now there is a huge core of members that is rock solid and over the years have become the family we get to choose.

    @158 Frauds and Criminals? I would like to see the numbers on that. Ratios and such. Lets get concrete shall we? You are worried about our credibility. Our members don’t hide our real names teddy996? Accountability Dude.

    @159 Raised in Texas. Not From Texas. Raised in Texas Y’all ;-)

    @161 Tough luck there. Austin here I come!!

    @164 I have the power of resurection? I think you have me confused with some other guy.

    @165 Yes you are still on IVAW’s dick

  167. 167
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    @ 166 Hart … Look here you long haried, CO, lost soul, marginal performer at best. If you believe for a moment that you in some way effected or affected me by calling me a dick, listen … I am 100 % Irish … so you can kiss my Royal Irish Ass and leave my dick out of it. Because at 3.5 inches and weighing in at less than 7 friggin ounces … it is not worth discussing. But this little discussion about my “Irish” probably excites you … either way … I don’t give a rat’s ass about what you or your half baked org believes or does because on game day you won’t be there to fight … I will.

    Oh … have a great day!

  168. 168
    Robot Wrangler Says:

    Jesus what a dick. If you were a christian you wouldnt come here to bait others with you bullshit, I think you hide behind the veil of religion because you think it makes you morally superior. It just makes you a hypocritical dick, pure and simple. Oh and just to let ya know Haji isnt a racist term for an arab, Haji refers to those that went on the pilgrimage to Mecca the Hajj. I’m arabic by descent and I know the racist terms for those of my ethnicity, Asshole.

  169. 169
    Hart Viges Says:

    @167 LOL basic grammer dude. I was talking about you being on IVAW’s Dick. In the current shit talking culture, when someone keeps harping on one person or thing, a common response is, “get off my dick”. But in this case y’all are all up on IVAW’s Dick. And even if I called you a dick please don’t be offended, it stands for Dedicated Infantry Combat Killa. LOL
    Ireland!! Love that place. I did a two week speaking tour all over the Island. Even thought about going EX-Pat there.

    @168 No shit Robot. Guess what We in the 82nd 1/325 HHC used it as a racist term. I know what its original meaning. Thats nothing new to me. Words and symbols can be twisted. I’m letting you know we used it not just for people but cars, smokes, houses, food, clothes, everything. I’m not hiding behind nuthin Bro. “what you hear with your ears tell it from the rooftops, no one lights a lamp under table or hides it somewhere, rather one puts it upon a stand so that all who enter and leave may see the light” -Jesus

    With Jesus I work to bring an end to war. I see y’all tearing down the ones who do good work. I am not higher or lower than anyone else. I am not the judge, savior, or victim. I share and thats it.

  170. 170
    Hondo Says:

    Viges: the log in your eye is indeed a large one. It’s rendered you blind to your own hypocrisy.

    That’s expected, though. We’ve seen rank hypocrisy time and again from IVAW. Above, you’ve proven yourself no different from the other IVAW hypocrites featured at TAH. You fit in with that crowd quite well, actually.

    Your life, your choice I guess. Still: what you’re doing and what you’ve said above is a rather strange way for a prospective clergyman to “walk the walk”.

  171. 171
    teddy996 Says:

    @166- I’m not worried about your credibility. IVAW has absolutely none with me at this point. Ted is my real name. I ride a Ducati 996, hence the 996 part. You can find my last name posted around here if you look hard enough.

    Yes, frauds, liars, and criminals were the face of IVAW, and I only need one name to prove all three of my claims:

    Rick Duncan. IVAW sent him around the cable news circuit, and he was lying about his service. Never even served. An escaped mental patient, by some accounts. Convicted fraudster.
    http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_12537680

    Of course there were other high-profile members who have been less than forthcoming about their service to gain attention like Mathis Chiroux, Jesse MacBeth, DeWald, Jake Diliberto and Jimmy Massey to name a few.

    Four of the people I have listed (Duncan/Strandlof, MacBeth, Diliberto and Chiroux) garnered national attention for IVAW. All of them were full of shit, all intentionally misleading the public on their service. Stop being obtuse, y’all. Your organization has made some severe missteps in it’s quest for national attention, and it has hurt it’s reputation among real veterans. Own up to them, tighten your shit up, and move on.

    Accountability, dude.

  172. 172
    Hart Viges Says:

    @171 So all the names you have a problem with are no longer with IVAW, yet you still bring it up. Get over it dude, we did. Ted I ain’t no stalker. But if you post with your real name, I can’t say yur hiding.

    @170 Dude, one thing that lacks in this form of communication is tone. If this was a face to face conversation I seriously doubt you would hold that judgement on me. Peace Bro

  173. 173
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    I suppose coming here is a rite of passage for IVAW members. Each knows what the outcome will be when he arrives and each, in turn, then gets to share his experience with others. Some members may lurk in the background just to see how the newcomer handles himself; others may be unwatched but are assured their accounts of the goings-on are available for verification. Why else would any IVAW member be here? There’s no possibility of garnering support. If nothing else, IVAW’s history alone precludes that. It’s not to generate income. Perhaps it’s to just rabblerouse and to annoy. I don’t know but I rather favor the rite of passage explanation.

  174. 174
    Hart Viges Says:

    @173 LOL Well I was just tired of preaching to the choir. Y’all are more fun.

  175. 175
    Hart Viges Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS4esPke33s

  176. 176
    Hart Viges Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IJCFc_qkHw

  177. 177
    Buteo buteo Says:

    Oh, what a fabricator you are.

    What was your little needling effort really all about? Are you getting extra points with the Big Boys for keeping the thread going over nothing? You aren’t funny. You arne’t very bright. You have nothing important to say. You just keep needling people. Or trying to. Not very good at it, either.

    “no Jon Dewald on the board” equals don’t even know the history of your own organization.

    Not very good at hiding your real motivation. If it were only about raising money via an online bet, you said yourself the money stopped a while back.

    So much insistence on having the REAL names of people who post here means you think you can hide your real intentions.

    You think everyone here is as stupid as you are. You got that part completely wrong.

  178. 178
    Jonn Lilyea Says:

    If it wasn’t for TAH, DeWald, Webb and Chiroux would still be members. Chiroux was on the Board, FFS. Webb was so important, IVAW paid his way from Texas to Maryland for the convention. A few weeks after DeWald was booted, he was back in and in a position to rip off the organization. And you were there through it all, Viges. And you were also there for the Rick Duncan episode – the gay Marine captain who had never spent a day in uniform, the phony Marine captain who had his eleventh finger shot off and was in charge of the PTSD unit at Winter Soldier because he had a plate in his scar-less head.

    I wonder what your role was in the Naser Jason Abdo thing, you know, the Fort Hood bomber. I know IVAW and Under the Hood was involved somehow and it will take me a while to figure it all out, but I will.

  179. 179
    TSO Says:

    Let’s not feed the troll.

    Like I said, I take back my praise for him. I’m sure Jesus would appreciate a man claiming to be a Christian going around talking about how a blog is “on the dick” of IVAW. That sounds exactly like something Jesus would say.

    Hart is a hypocrite and a troll. Holier than thou while simultaneously being crass.

  180. 180
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    @174. I guessed I missed the sermon. As for our being more fun, that’s a curious explanation. Coming here and getting sandwiched between those who despise IVAW and those who couldn’t give a rat’s ass about it is your idea of fun? Really?

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    teddy996 Says:

    @172- The point is, Hart, y’all should’ve weeded them out BEFORE putting them in the spotlight. If the I and the V in IVAW don’t mean enough to you to actually verify them first, then there’s not really a point to having them in the name then, is there?

    IVAW fucked up, bigtime. Repeatedly. Those fuckups damaged the brand. Now, like the boy who cried wolf, not many people take you seriously. That’s the news, Hart, and it’s old news. I’m sorry if I’m the one that has to break it to you, but if you’re hearing it for the first time from me, as it appears you are, then you seriously need to get with the fucking program.

    As for my name- I’ve told you, if you want it you can find it. You can even find the town I live in, and where I grew up. I know I’ve posted that information a few times. Use those legendary IVAW vetting skills you’re insisting are not fiction, and track it down yourself. Prove to me that, as a senior IVAW member, you are finally able to do a rudimentary check on someone’s information.

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    streetsweeper Says:

    Oh goody, its my old pal, Hart Viges! How in the sam hell have you been, Hart? Long time, very long time no see! How’s that preaching act you got going on working out for you? You and Jesse still hanging together? Hehehe…tell him I said “hey” and ruffle his scruffy little head for me too. By gosh it has been almost just as long since I last seen him sitting curb side, scared out of his wits (I don’t know why)waiting on your crew to pick him up at Bush Continental.

    How’s Knappenberger doing? You remember dear old Evan. Him and Jonathan were, you know, best of buddies and all, talking smack about how they were going to kick our asses in DC and going set off all kinds of brilliant *fireworks* displays too. And so,tell me all about it..Money from my Rich Liberal Friends. Big Donor List of IVAW. A great way to raise money in a fun way.

    Because, the few of your rich, liberal friends up there probably don’t know some of what they might be reading now. See that? And I’m not swearing. So you are living in Seattle now, go figure. How is life in Fremont District? You been visiting the Karl Marx shrine regularly? Marxist’s as a rule tend to congregate in the same viscinties, that is why your called “fellow travelers”

    The Coffee House still brewing bullshit to sell to unsuspecting troops out in Lakewood? Oh crap, I forgot. Their and your funding source is in large part through charitable foundations like the TIDES Foundation and TIDES Charity bank. Till next time….

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    streetsweeper Says:

    Oh yes and one more thing, Mr. Viges? Did you guys (IVAW)ever file the required paper work with the IRS for a 503 er non-profit organization or are you still operating as I suspect, under the VVAW’s legal status they *loaned* you to use?

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    Hart Viges Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZGgCLOvZAI

  185. 185
    Hart Viges Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0chVPkuMZo4

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    Just Plain Jason Says:

    Hart Viges since you like videos so much I thought I would post this one for you…

    http://youtu.be/YwIRHat1Rd0

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    Hart Viges Says:

    I do dig Zombie Movies…Thanks

  188. 188
    Hart Viges Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4awVqRr1eCo

  189. 189
    Just Plain Jason Says:

    Holy Fuck Hart I didn’t realize who you were you are some kind of celebrity!!!! Can you sign my Hemp Hacky Sack?

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    NHSparky Says:

    And why wouldn’t you, Hart? They’re just as brain-dead as you and your fellow travellers are…soulless automotons, the lot of you. Kindred spirits, one might say.

  191. 191
    Just Plain Jason Says:

    I am sorry I am too lazy to read the above, so is the official name now the WV (a/o NV) AAWWSBBTGC1%AFTFOSO? You know that the Iraq war is over now…

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    streetsweeper Says:

    Actually JPJ, they are marxist trying to pass themselves off as socialist and still makes ‘em communist. Hart, your bottomless pool of ignorance is what it is. Glad to see you still duck questions. Stay classy troop.

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    Hart Viges Says:

    @190 do you speak from experience sparky or do you just blindly accept anything posted here?

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    NHSparky Says:

    I dunno, I look at the members (former and current) of your “organization”, I watch a few of your YouTube videos, a couple of episodes of The Walking Dead, and the only real difference I see is I kinda feel sorry for the zombies.

    You? Not so much.

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    Hondo Says:

    Viges: yes, I would. I hold any aspiring “clergyman” who on one hand claims to be a “good Christian” but who simultaneously curses like a rap “artist” and who fails to denounce reprehensible behavior to be a hypocrite. Ditto someone who castigates others for using a name of their own choosing vice their actual name while doing exactly the same themselves – “Benjamin”.

    Your own words above prove you to be exactly as I’ve just described you. I have little respect or use for hypocrites – particularly smug and conceited ones who appear to have no outstanding qualities about which to be either smug or conceited. You may be able to get away with that among those who are ignorant or gullible. The readers at TAH are neither.

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    Green Thumb Says:

    TAH: Your wasting your time.

    This fool will always be right.

    See it enough up here.

    Hart, your a turd and the sad thing is: You know it.

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    Hart Viges Says:

    Watching videos and you know it all? Doubt it. I’ve checked, cursing is forgivable. I know what? Psalms 82:6. Don’t worry, that includes y’all as well.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Wnh0V4HMM

  198. 198
    Buteo Buteo Says:

    Wrong, asswipe.

    Commandment #3: Thou shaly not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain, for the Lord shall not hold guiltless he who taketh His name in vain.

  199. 199
    Hart Viges Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5HeL90BhWI

    Wrong But But. Jesus Saves!!

  200. 200
    Hart Viges Says:

    200!!!

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    Hondo Says:

    Well, Viges, while cursing may be forgivable it appears that a certain Teacher had a rather dim view of it:

    “If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain.” (James 1:26)

    That same Teacher appears to have had a dim view of ostentation and hypocrisy as well. You might want to review Matthew 6:1, Matthew 15:7-9, Romans 2:3, James 2:14, 1 John 2:4, Titus 1:16, and Luke 13:14-17. And that’s just for starters.

    Your words above prove you an arrogant hypocrite, Bennie. If you’re actually thinking about a theological career, you need to take a long, hard look at yourself in the mirror.

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    IVAW "Vets" Says:

    viges with carl webb after he was booted from ivaw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyl4xM1SSl4

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    A Proud Infidel Says:

    Hartie-boy, maybe it’s time for you to take your tinfoil hat off and look at the truth, you’ve been guzzling way too much liberal Kool-Aid!!

  204. 204
    Hart Viges Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOWgicFNR6k

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    A Proud Infidel Says:

    Hartie-poo, a mentally retarded chimpanzee on LSD could make a better “song” and video than that, notice the use of quotation marks, because that’s nothing but [C]rap!

    That tinfoil hat of yours has given you some serious brain damage!!

  206. 206
    Hart Viges Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDEfSKHHIxc

  207. 207
    Hondo Says:

    Well, it looks like Bennie-boy has run out of argument and is now down to posting links to canned propaganda and talking points.

    No one’s interested, Viges.

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    Futue Te Ipsum Says:

    @207 — Hondo, HIV is only interested in getting XX number of posts under his/its name. Probably has a cheap bet going on the side over it.

  209. 209
    Green Thumb Says:

    Religion: The last refuge of a scoundrel.

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    Hart Viges Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtrHH1BDlzk

    @208 LOL I wouldn’t call it cheap. Y’all wouldn’t believe it anyway but the truth is your comments are still making money for IVAW. ;-)

  211. 211
    Hart Viges Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0qvVUduc9k

  212. 212
    Hart Viges Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISLNPAwES5Y

    my thoughts exactly

  213. 213
    NHSparky Says:

    Hart…what part of “we don’t give a fuck” do you not understand?

  214. 214
    Hart Viges Says:

    What part of “thanks for your contribution to IVAW” do you not understand?

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    Redacted1775 Says:

    Yeah really, I mean they need SOMEONE to fund their collective drug habits, right? Methis, anyone?

  216. 216
    NHSparky Says:

    True, I’m sure it costs a pretty penny to stock a fridge full of Xanax and jars of piss.

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    Futue Te Ipsum Says:

    ‘The money raised with your comments have official stopped. Y’all were having them go broke.’ — HIV @140 above

    It seems that not only does HIV not observe the common sense guidelines that God gave us all, he also lies like a wog in a camel race. And I truly doubt any money is actualy going to anything or anyone but himself and his pockets.

    Short term memory loss — not a good sign. He lieth. He cheateth. Likewise, he probably rippeth off. Equally bad signs. Personality disorder manifested as attention whore.

    But wait: what if he and Medea Benjamin conjoined and cranked out a little squirt of something besides air pollution? Now, there’s a match made in a sewer.

  218. 218
    Hart Viges Says:

    Checking out the rest of the site. Y’all really do a good job exposing fakes across the board. Much Respect. So I see the problem of stolen valor to be a part of the veteran community as a whole. Now when it comes to IVAW, y’all seem to paint the whole as corrupt. We have had our problems in the past but to blindly say we are all fake, is like saying all white people can’t dance. GAS FACE!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYp28tEAVvs

  219. 219
    Hart Viges Says:

    @217 LOL yea we found some more. Inspiration spreads like…….mouth herpes. LOL

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