Dallas Wittgenfeld
This guy’s records are a big question mark. He’s wearing a CIB, but according to his records, he was a commo guy in Vietnam, so there is no way he’s authorized to wear a CIB. He’s also wearing infantry brass with the blue background and a blue rope which he’s also not authorized to wear. But his FOIA says he was awarded a CIB;
But then I’ve never seen a FOIA that listed Letters of Commendation and Certificates of Achievement, either. So all of that makes me suspicious. Here’s his record of assignments from his Form 2-1;
The dates of his assignments coincide to the history of his two Ranger units, according to the 75th Ranger Regiment Association. But like I said, if he altered his military records to add the CIB, there’s no reason to believe he didn’t alter his assignments, too. The fact that he’s listed as a 05B20 while he was in Advanced Individual training is suspicious, too. I’m sure he wasn’t a Sergeant E-5 after four months of service.
And here’s a picture of him wearing a green beret at the Wall, and that’s a Purple Heart and Ranger scroll on his chest;
According to the Special Forces Association membership rules, he’s not eligible to be a member based on his assignments to Ranger units, so the green beret thing is right out.
You and I both know from looking at these records that he’s not authorized all of the infantry stuff, but how that CIB got in his records, I’ll never know, well, unless he gives up the ghost and tells us the truth. Not holding my breath.
Thanks to the folks at Scotty’s Hideaway, for the stuff.
April 23rd, 2012 at 6:00 am
yeah that is a weird one
April 23rd, 2012 at 7:30 am
O5B20- that would be an E-5 Radio Operator..in AIT? NOT unless he had a previous MOS. I was an O5C10 in AIT- radio-teletype. Basically, a clerk-typist who could run a radio and type on a flintstone-era typewriter with a hammer. The Bravos were in class like 4 weeks; we had an extra 3 for the crypto-gear and teletypes. IF you had to learn to type from scratch, you could be there an additional 6 weeks just doing that. Luckily, I ‘typed out’ and went home after comsec portion.
I don’t see HOW this dude could have been a -20 in AIT….
April 23rd, 2012 at 7:58 am
He was a 2O in AIT because he was a shake and bake NCO…
This guy is a pompous ass, self absorbed narcassist, and in general a total douche rocket..
He did serve in Vietnam, was awarded everything on his 2-1…
This guy loves to make threats, and to harrass folks who dare to ask questions of or about him.
April 23rd, 2012 at 8:10 am
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.307398489297347.61780.100000815946568&type=3
April 23rd, 2012 at 8:43 am
I’d guess this guy is just another lying bastard, and in some respects IMO he has already proven that (I’d love to hear his “explanation” as to why he’s been photographed wearing the Ranger beret, the Green beret, the purple heart, and the Infantry cord/discs – none of which his official records show he rates). But the LOCs in his FOIA could be legit, and there is a way he could legitimately rate the CIB.
I can’t speak for the late 60s/early 70s, but as of the late 70s/early 80s some commands were still putting certificates of appreciation and selected training certificates into the OMPF. I checked my electronic records on file at DA (they’re still available to me online) and verified that I’ve got a couple of the former and one of the latter in my file. I seem to remember that GO-level letters of commendation could also be filed in the OMPF. So if Wittgenfeld’s personnel clerks were kinda anal-retentive about things, the LOCs on the FOIA might well be legit.
Further, para 8-6.b of AR 600-8-22 specifically indicates that the 11B MOS need not be an individual’s primary MOS for award of the CIB. What AR 600-8-22 requires is that the individual be (1) assigned to an infantry unit, (2) be formally trained in and awarded an 11- or 18-series MOS (secondary MOS counts), (3) the individual is assigned and performing duties in that 11- or 18-series MOS, and (4) the individual participates personally in ground combat while performing 11- or 18-series duties. If Wittgenfeld was detailed to serve temporarily in an infantry position while assigned to an infantry unit in Vietnam, participated in ground combat while so detailed, and had previously been designated as having an 11-series secondary MOS, then he’d qualify. He’s got an Air Medal, so one possibility is that he got awarded an 11B secondary and detailed to serve as a door-gunner for a while.
Don’t know how common signal or other enlisted guys in Vietnam getting awarded a secondary MOS of the 11-series was. However, if I recall correctly a couple of the NCOs I served with early in my career had 11-series secondary MOS that they’d been awarded in Vietnam.
Again, the above is only a plausible explanation; I’m not saying that’s what really happened. Indeed, Wittgenfeld’s photographically documented tendencies to play fast and loose with what he wears and claims argues otherwise. But it could be the case. If so, both the detail to an 11-series duty position and secondary MOS designation should be documented in his records if that’s part of the basis for award of his CIB. Perhaps a second FOIA specifically requesting redacted copies of all documents concerning his award of the CIB would spell that out.
April 23rd, 2012 at 8:47 am
Whoops – scratch my comment above about the purple heart. His FOIA shows he has the Purple heart w/bronze OLC, so at this point his wearing the Purple Heart is presumably legit.
April 23rd, 2012 at 8:51 am
This slimy piece of shit, Dallas Wittgenfeld, is in my sights. Whether or not he is as phony as he seems; he is a lyin’, thievin’ piece of steamin’ dogshit. Little to some, but not to me, he snagged a photo from a page of mine, then not only claimed it as his, but accused me of stealing it from him. The O-4 SF object in the photo would like to help me in bringing him an “awakening”. This is one dish that I will enjoy serving cold. Deland Florida, Skydive Deland, Orange City, Florida are all places of which I am very familiar. My day will come.
April 23rd, 2012 at 9:08 am
Shouldn’t be too hard to locate someone who was in the units this gent was in to verify bona fides. This one is out of my AOR.
April 23rd, 2012 at 9:16 am
Re, my comment #7: The photograph in question, taken 10/26/2011 at Rudder DZ, Camp James E. Rudder, Florida; can be seen here:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2305774798949&set=a.2305741758123.2111250.1086639350&type=3&theater,
April 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
Dallas is a self absorbed asshole who was an RTO type clerk who was fortunate enough to get sent to an elite unit, although he was there, he loves to toot his own whistle with comments like “62 year old twice combat wounded Army Vietnam Veteran (real deal) War heroe of the Airborne Rangers.” And trys to profit from his Purple hearts. I found some obscure regulation that would support his claim to wearing the Blue Cord, even apologized to him, yet for all intensive purposes, I am still not comfortable with his claims. I spoke to a fellow from his old unit, who was an RTO too, and he stated that Dallas was there, and because of some grandfather reg Dallas was entitled to the CIB, but also in the same sentence, this fellow (who wishes not to be identified) stated a lot of the RTO’s would not wear the CIB because it “belonged to the Infantry.” This Dallas guy has no honor whatsoever…
April 23rd, 2012 at 9:56 am
Sure likes to wear an 82nd patch a lot even though he was only in the Div slightly over a year. At least he doesn’t wear it on right sleeve since he wasn’t there for DomRep or the 3/82nd in VN. Did that many RATT operators get Air Medals? Guess it is possible.
April 23rd, 2012 at 10:01 am
This is an odd one. Based on what I read above it seems like this guy is ‘legitimate’ in some claims, maybe not in others. Problems seems to be more with the guy himself, and a wish that all his claims were totally fake.
April 23rd, 2012 at 10:04 am
@# 12 Tman:
He is legitimate in one facet at least- He is a top-shelf liar and fabricator.
April 23rd, 2012 at 10:16 am
There seems to be a lot of this going on. So he is only part of what he claims to be and not all of it is fake like others I have seen recently. Why make it up, why not instead be proud of who you are and what you have done?
April 23rd, 2012 at 10:26 am
My error…he wasn’t a RATT op, just a RTO. Still question Air medal. What are the other badges (I recognize CIB and parachutist)? Picture isn’t clear.
The left arm fourige (spelling?) looks like what we wore in the 82nd, but only while assigned to the Div since it is a unit award from WWII. Do I remember right that the ribbons over the right pocket are also unit awards? Sure are a lot of them. Guess it helps the bling effect.
April 23rd, 2012 at 10:45 am
This one is confusing….is he wearing ribbons on the right side????—would’nt there be unit cites there? All the years I was in I knew you had to hold a grunt MOS to get the CIB.
April 23rd, 2012 at 11:00 am
He only pays attention to the regs that help his cause, which is himself, the others not so much…..
April 23rd, 2012 at 11:05 am
A D.U.I arrest while flying a plane, you have to be kidding but it was in the news paper. This in it’s self speaks volumes about this “honorable” individual.
April 23rd, 2012 at 11:07 am
BTW–memo to Dallas if/when you get here, if you’re gonna threaten to sue Jonn, don’t bother. The line is already around the block at the courthouse.
April 23rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
CI Roller Dude: the ribbons on the right side appear to be unit decorations – though they all seem to be missing their gold frames. They’re authorized for permanent wear if you were assigned at the time the were earned by the unit.
Looks to be the PUC, VUC, MUC, RVN PUC, and RVN Gallantry Cross.
April 23rd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
POWnetwork.org listing of Dallas Wittgenfeld http://pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies1298.htm
April 23rd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
His entry appearing next to the pirate lesbian doesn’t help him.
April 23rd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Well, IMO he certainly looks better by contrast. Blackbeard of Lesbos ain’t exactly the most attractive individual on this planet . . . .
April 23rd, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Looks like our “buddy” here is modest, too.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2007/08/11/veteran-looking-for-helicopter-to-help-iraq-soldiers-recover/
“I was proud of what I had done, and when I came back, I thought I was a hero — but no one else did.”
Gee, I wonder why.
April 23rd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Ah, Veterans Today. It’s all starting to come together now.
April 23rd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
You guys got it all wrong. Take a closer look … at the beret and mustache’ … it is MONTY … Gen. Bernard Law Montgomery!
April 23rd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
@26- LOL… I knew he looked familiar.
April 23rd, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Actually Master Chief, he kinda reminds me of Doctor Bombay from the old Bewitched series…
April 23rd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Seriously – he really does look familiar. Maybe around some Florida Veterans events??
April 23rd, 2012 at 2:36 pm
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=365884036782125&set=a.307398489297347.61780.100000815946568&type=1&theater
April 23rd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Dallas trying to defend himself from Stolen Valor…https://www.facebook.com/StolenValor/posts/256941497728788
April 23rd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Scotty – could you do a bit of cut and past for us? I really don’t want to increase his traffic by clicking to see what he posted.
But, of course, am curious. Thanks!
April 23rd, 2012 at 3:24 pm
If he was so worried and cared about todays Vets then why his comments like “NOW LET’S SEE what all you youngster cry baby Vets have been obscessed with: RA 68037064, Dallas Wittgenfeld, is NOT a POSER” and “Soooo, let’s all go to the media and let them know how you disabled (non combat wounded) younger Vets (mostly Marines) treat the older 62 year old twice combat wounded Army Vietnam Veteran (real deal) War heroe of the Airborne Rangers.” and of course there is a butt load more from Scottys place, this shows what kind of a racist he is: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=356905914346604&set=a.307398489297347.61780.100000815946568&type=1&theater
April 23rd, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Hondo has it right. One of my SFC instructors had the CIB awarded as he was cross leveled into an 11B slot and OJTed for the MOS and subsequently awarded the CIB. This was at FT Huachuca circa 1977.
April 23rd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Personally I want this bastard hung out to dry in the media around his HOR. If we can bring him out through the media it will do more to dropkick his ass than anything else. He thrives on the attention and if that attention suddenly turns negative it’s gonna hurt him right in his self serving wallet. I think the IRS should also be informed of his schemes.
April 23rd, 2012 at 7:00 pm
I just posted on the Skydive Deland site at facebook, leaving this post:
“Y’all have a guy that jumps out there known as Dallas Wittgenfeld? You might want to let him know that he has gained a major space in the spotlight this weekend. He is the featured character in this post: http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=29627“
Perhaps it will bring him out of the woodwork,(or drive him into the Ocala National Forest).
April 24th, 2012 at 12:41 am
I guess the thing that gets me the most is how he talks down to Vets of OIF/AFG like they are nothing, yet he claims to do all this crap for us, he claims to be 100% disabled, yet still can manage to jump out of planes, I am 100% and can’t get around without the use of a cane and brace for the rest of my days, and I especially hate how he tries to make a buck off of his Purple Hearts. I even came to bat for him over him wearing the Blue cord, what did I get??? He called me a POG, I have 17 1/2 years in as an 11B, while he uses some grandfather clause in the 670-1 to be entitled to wear a CIB, I earned mine, in my MOS….he ain’t worth the sweat off of any of you guy’s ass to me, a POG wannabe is all he is…
April 25th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
I am soooooo glad he came to our page to run his mouth. Let this be a lesson to everyone. When a stolen valor admin ask you politely for you to privately email your info do it and don’t be a bitch about it. He did this to himself by running his mouth. Your a sad sack of shit Dallas.
April 26th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Dallas and I have exchanged “Words” and insults many a time concerning his “Tribute to every Unit he was in” Class “A” Uniform he has. He does not wear the 38th Inf Crests which go along with the D-151 patch…He would rather claim the switch over to “Ranger Unit” than admit he was in D-151 “original” for any amount of time. His 2-1 file, has him “departing Vietnam” (Casual) meaning PCS to us non Vietnam Vet types, on 15 November, the same time the Royal Thai Army “Volunteer Force” was being set up. in November of that same year…so there is no fucking way humanly possible that Dallas could have been with them, yet he makes claims of being attached or leading patrols for the “Thai Army” as a member RTAVF. He is a “hokey wolf”, a “phoney Bologne” as my Dear Mother would say. There are more discrepancies with Dallas’s stories and claims than one can shake a stick at. But the proof i in his File, and the time he spent over in “The Nam”. Which by the way was a total of maybe “8″ months, 4 with the D-151, and “4″ with the Arty Unit before he PCS’d back to the WORLD…Again…read the 2-1 over, minute by minute and read the Royal Thai Army Volunteer force Web page time line, and it does not add up together. History according to Dallas points in his favor. He is a Self promoter like “Wild Bill Hickcock” (and like “Wild Bill” his stories aren’t always based upon fact, but give an illusion of truth just for credibility and theatrical sack) He exploits his short time in Vietnam to establish a base of worship among the public, and advance his parachuting career. All he does is salute and jump a lot, salute and jump, salute and jump, and gives fellow veterans who try to correct him the “Bird”. He wants to be bigger than life, with his “Bigger than Life” parachutes, and banking on his Purple hearts and membership to “several Military units” to propel his civilian image, and create Dollars from supporting troops. He is a RTO who left the 82nd Signal Battalion, to be a LEG in a LRRP unit…A Commo guy playing the “tough guy” 11B image. Ranger Units were never awarded French Fouregerre cords..to this day none of the three RGR BATTs wear them…That is an “82nd Thing” he wears among all the other Hodge podge bullshit on hs “Tribute Costume”. (can’t call Thunder Chicken’s Clown suit a “uniform”). He served, earned his purple hearts (from Blanket parties given him by some Gook boot shine boys for fucking their sisters and not “paying” for it). He was in “Nam”…8 months but still in “the Nam”…and unfortunately, he lucked out and got a LRRP assignment. I even doubt his “Birth place” since he claims Indiana, and that is also were his LRRP Unit is from…but nothing Dallas says can be totally believed, as he is a “Self promoter” and it is all about “Dallas’s image”. Screw him.
April 26th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Dallas is 99-44-100% a goof ball. capitalizing on his little stint in Vietnam, as that 8 months was the total sum of his career, and forget about his “Drill sergeant” time…(or hat). and boy does Dallas love to wear “headgear”. All types, Ranger, SF, Flight helmets, WWII steel pots, but never a Maroon Beret…NEVER,,,always has to be “Special” and “elite” with “Dumas Windsock”, the Sky diving Thunder chicken clown from Indiana…what a worthless sack of Kimshi.. A “Nick Rowe” his is not…but what sort of stories does one expect from a “RTO”? A Commo guy, who realized a little too late, (like a biker who buys a Sportster instead of a BIG Twin HARLEY) that he picked the wrong MOS to wuff shit about. so he embellishes and adds too, and over inflates his exploits, and threatens anyone who questions his Abortion Class “A” photo…lol…
May 9th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Guess who just emailed to threaten me with some nebulous action.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Wednesday afternoon lawsuit threat, Jonn?
Guess he didn’t know the quota was filled by 9:15 Monday morning.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
ETA: Although the emailed threat should move him up a few spots in his bracket when the JMBSV Tournament comes around.
Seriously, there are so many of these guys falling out of the trees you’re seriously going to have to consider doing a regular tournament and an NIT-style for all those who just didn’t quite have the game to play with the big boys.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Jonn, I’ll gladly donate my lunch money to the “Jonn Lilyea Poser Going to Sue You Legal Defense Fund” if that’ll help!? What a forkin’ LOSER!!!
May 9th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Oh, goody – another libel/slander deal? Or should the TAH Brigade get our “uniforms” squared away in case we are called out later in the day?
***OWB getting out the popcorn***
May 15th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
[...] May 15th, 2012 Our newest buddy, Dallas Whittenfeld has been trying to get me to take down my post about him. He’s a real charmer, trust me. He began by threatening me with a lawsuit, which, I’m [...]
May 16th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Dallas, if you are reading these comments:
You are one lyin’, thievin’, sorry piece of shit. You lifted a photo of mine, and then demonstrated your dumbassery by telling me that I stole it from you. I don’t give a ratzazz about your service record, whether they be true or false, none of that. You accused me of stealing, and that will be your statement to suffer for. The person photographed would like nothing more than for you to stumble in to a certain Ranger Bar and tell the people in there, (actual school trained Rangers, now Ranger Instructors), that I stole “your” photo.
What was it that Sun Tzu said about a meal best served cold???
May 18th, 2012 at 8:19 am
1. Has anyone called the SFA about him? He has a cert saying he is a member but my 3 year old cousin can make one of those with photoshop. I’ve read where he states he was “awarded an honorary lifetime membership” and also that he applied for it. His retarded chicken new articles state he is a “former Green Beret”. Umm, why would he get an honorary membership then?
2. Fuck this guy. Got some friends at Bragg that would like to meet him. lol
~Z
May 18th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Yeah, Z, the SFA has been contacted. See the new article linked at comment 46.
May 18th, 2012 at 10:10 am
He claimed to have been awarded the membership as an honorary member. They wouldn’t do that for someone who spent a couple of months attached to a SF unit. He was actually PCSing during that time if the dates on his files are right.
May 25th, 2012 at 9:31 am
It seems that MR. Dallas Wittgenfeld has decided to post himself as the Phantom Airborne Brigade on Military.Com. If anyone knows how to contact Mr. Wittgenfeld, I would appreciate that information, as he has never been a member of the Brigade, and he needs to take down his page representing himself as such.(This guy is a total hero faker) all eyes on him,,,,,,,,
May 31st, 2012 at 4:11 am
This guy looks like/reminds me of general shepard from modern warfare two, mustache beret and everything
June 9th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
So,it took you “52 brainiac posts” to figure out Dallas Wittgenfeld IS a twice combat wounded Vietnam War Veteran of the elite Airborne Rangers and a “Special Liaison Section” Advisor for the Special Forces trained, Air America flown, and C.I.A. funded mecenaries of the Royal Thailand Army SoF.. Just like he said.
You know..? This makes all your posts you ever made seem uncredible from this point on. If you young Veteran “Band of Bastards” can’t pin a bronze star on him, NOT HEARSAY, You are screwed. Have you got a picture of him wearing a bronze star..? Didn’t think so..
STOP HARASSING AND DISHONORING COMBAT DISABLED VIETNAM WAR VETERANS OF THE ELITE AIRBORNE RANGERS. SHAME UPON YOU ALL.
June 9th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Responding to Dragon Breath on comment #51..?
Did you know Ranger Dallas has a USPA D-Rating and round low-level staticline parachutes, too… “Set 10s” Do you know what that is… I wonder who built them for him… Guest where he jumped them..?
Ohhhh, Yah,on the Phantom Airborne Brigade jumpers manifest..3 times.. Go get a life Mister Phantom Imposture Yourself… How’s that jumping working out for you right now… NADDA.?
June 9th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Fuck I hate when the kids are out of school.
June 9th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
He’s jealous of the attention others are getting this week?
June 9th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Long Range Patrol 41 (I refuse to act like an idiot and toggle the shift key repeatedly like a spastic): no one here is debating whether or not Wittgenfeld has 2 PHs or was in Vietnam, dipstick. What is in question is (1) whether his CIB is legit, and (2) whether he was ever SF. The answer on both, per Army regs in effect when he served, is . . . no. Informal advisor duty to foreign forces in the RVN entitles him to neither a CIB nor to call himself SF. See the other Wittgenfeld thread for further details.
That’s especially true since, per his FOIA, he appears to have never done so because he was returning to CONUS at the time he claimed to have served as an “advisor” to the Royal Thai Army.
And I don’t believe even Wittgenfeld himself has ever claimed to be entitled to wear the Ranger tab – though he has worn the Ranger beret without authority.
June 9th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Yeah, folks meet Wittgenfeld who calls himself LoNg RaNgE PaTrOL 41 here. I guess he thinks he proved something to us, but I’m still waiting for the orders for his CIB. And, oh, he’s making veiled threats towards Mary at POW Network because he’s a class A coward along with being a liar and poser.
June 9th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
As I have said before; my personal thing in this is that I don’t give a ratsass about what he did or did not do in ‘Nam. He has proven himself to be both a liar and a thief. This POS snagged a photo from my wall, (in and of itself, no big deal), but then claimed that it was his photo= THIEF, and further, that I stole it from him= LIAR; neither of which I tolerate. I will handle this at a day and place convenient to me, but it WILL get handleds. When he is lying in the Fecal Position, we will have been served.
June 9th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
@59 FO: well said. Do you realize you just coined a new phrase – “fecal position”? Gives a different slant to the term “fetal position”. I like it.
June 9th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Considering what this shit-filled meatsack has pulled, I think fecal position might be more apropriate.
June 10th, 2012 at 8:12 am
LoNg RaNgE PaTrOL 41 = Dallas Wittgenfeld, The Thunder chickenshit clown that was wounded twice in RVN from a flying c-rat can hitting him in the ass when a arty round hit the garbage dump on the FOB he was assigned to in May of 1970 when he supposedly got wounded twice within 3 weeks. The wounds had to be minor in nature as he was not rotated out after the injuries. Dallas Wittgenfeld was a 05B2P & 05B20 during his tour in RVN. Copy that radio man Wittgenfeld ? You were assigned to two Ranger units as an RTO in RVN. But you were never in Ranger School . You also do not have an 11B series MOS listed in your 2-1 files wanna be Grunt.You never trained or led members of the RTAVF into battle. You are a LIAR & an embellish-er who has spent a lifetime lieing about your tour in RVN. You have completely dis-respected every American who fought in RVN. I bet you got off the plane , turned around & started spitting on your fellow comrades as they dis-embarked .You have no honor or pride for the uniform you wore . After all that .. Thank you & Welcome Home RTO Dallas Witthengeld…~ Scotty
June 10th, 2012 at 8:24 am
http://scotty-stolenvaloroffendersexposed.blogspot.com/2012/06/dallas-wittgenfeld-army-embellish-er.html
June 10th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Hi Scotty, Are you going to the big combat wounded Military Gala for the PoW Network, too. I am buying a table for ten. What a wonderful time I will have marching around in my Infantry Blue and my CIB… cause I’ll have my dd214 with me…. I will be showing it to everybody, there. Having a big hoot on you idiots hereon. How about you jack-offs go and see if all the OTHER Airborne Ranger como guys were issued 11F-2P secondary MOS…. You will see it is comon knowledge to the knowledgable… NOT dipshit youngsters… I have also chartered my friends helicopter and I am packing my parachutes today for my big Veterans Day 2012 week in Branson, Mo. I know important people in important places around Branson.
June 10th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Hey Frankly Opinionated….#59 Chill out man…. I checked your picture closer… I have one just like it; but yours is yours….
June 10th, 2012 at 9:05 am
FOR EVERYBODY’S ENTERTAINENT: Scotty has been blasted-off every Face Book page with my picture on it… his perssonal too.. even Military dot com has zapped his ass. Welcome to this blog… You follow me just like a dog in heat.. Wonderfull…
June 10th, 2012 at 9:08 am
I would suggest you march around with the FOIA we provided you with dilly Dallas.It actually gives you more credit then what your dd-214 does. And yes please show up @ Military Gala wearing your costume. You will make a great example for everyone to know what an idiot embellish-er looks like. Toot Toot your own horn fool. All you did by requesting to be part of the Military Gala is cause Mary to update your file on their Wall of Shame. Sucks being you chicken shit clown. Still waiting on that Bronze Star award letter boy. Oh that’s right , You never claimed that huh ? Tell me did you leave your BS award letter in Ohio ?
June 10th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Well, I guess I’ll have to start researching just how to go about requesting a formal inquiry into erroneous and/or fraudulent awards that managed to make it into official records at NPRC. I’m sure the Army and/or NARA has a process for that.
June 10th, 2012 at 9:48 am
By the way, Wittgenfeld: there’s an easy way for you to silence your critics. Post (1) your CIB orders, and (2) either formal orders to an advisory position with RVN forces (Royal Thai doesn’t cut it) or 11B secondary MOS orders. That should be enough to satisfy most if not all the folks here that your CIB is legit.
I’m guessing you don’t have any of those, though.
June 10th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Let us know how the Military Gala goes for you dilly Dallas. Pictures or you weren’t there !
June 10th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Hey Hondo… You are a johnny cum lately, man. These brainiacs started harassing me for being a military poser… then they found out I wasn’t… and was decorated more than them… they went crazy… here I am.. Still wearing my Ranger Beret just like I am supposed to… Infantry Blue too. All real combat Ranger Teamers get C.I.Bs brainiac. Common knowledge.. except for you. Don’t you guys even FEEL STUPID or what. sooo I am coming to a town near you..
June 10th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Not sure how relevant this is, but in response to comment 71. I know a guy who was a 25C and served as an RTO with a Ranger team in Iraq. I think what he did was extremely rare but he is legit and the real deal. He wears a CAB and is the first to adamantly state that he did not earn a CIB.
June 10th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Yeah, Wittgenfeld, all you need to do is show us orders for your CIB and we’ll admit we’re wrong. How many months have I been saying that? You blow smoke and talk about “historians” who’ll back you up, none of whom have contacted me, by the way, and still no orders. Put up or shut up. And, yes, we will check the order number.
June 10th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
The rule of poseurs is concrete like physics….the blowhards who never stop yammering about how high speed they are…….never really are.
This rule is doubled for those who walk around looking like a tiger striped Napoleon.
June 10th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
No one’s debating that your DD214 shows you have a CIB, Wittgenfeld. Your FOIA indicates that, too. However, many of us question whether or not that CIB is legit – and wonder how it got on your DD214.
Hypothetically speaking, it’s possible that a transition point clerk has been convinced to put something on a DD214 that’s not legit from time to time. Particularly if the soldier ETSing raises Cain, has a plausible story as to why he doesn’t have proper orders, and spins a convincing but false yarn about why he qualifies for a not-that-well understood loophole in the regs.
Hell – CSM’s sometimes try to claim Purple Hearts from Vietnam for MACV-SOG service in 1974. And back up their claims with certificates signed by Nixon dated 4 months after he left office.
Provide paperwork backing your claims, and we’ll shut up. But if you don’t produce paperwork, don’t expect the questioning to stop.
June 10th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Being a Jarhead I can’t comment on the badges, berets, patches, etc. because we don’t use them. I am now absolutely certain he’s a phony something. Every poser who is called out threatens to sue when they’re trapped. Also the lack of providing something as simple as a set of orders say volumes. sheesh!
June 10th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
OK, I’m a bit confused here.
On the left side of his jacket, he’s got a National Defense Service ribbon, Vietnam Service ribbon, and Vietnam Campaign ribbon. On the right side of his jacket he has another National Defense ribbon, another Vietnam Service ribbon, and what appears to be a Navy Good Conduct ribbon.
Why in the blue-eyed world would an Army guy be wearing a Navy decoration? And if you had two hitches in Vietnam, you got a star to add to your original service/campaign medals, not two medals. I knew a few guys who had two stars on their Vietnam medals, but that was the 1970s and that war was not so popular then.
Seriously, some of these pictures that show up are funnier than Lenny Bruce was when he was drunk. Keep up the good work.
June 10th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Ex-PH2: Unlike the other services, the Army wears unit decorations over the right pocket vice the left. If you were assigned to a unit at the time a unit decoration was awarded (or formally attached for 30+ days or for the duration of the period for which awarded if shorter than 30 days), they’re authorized to be worn by the individual permanently. If you’re assigned to the unit later, you wear the unit awards previously earned by your unit of assignment while assigned and take them off when you leave.
The unit decorations he’s wearing over his right pocket are, starting at his upper right in the photo, (upper row) the Presidential Unit Citation; the Valorous Unit Award; (lower row) the Meritorious Unit Award; the Vietnamese Presidential Unit Citation; and the Vietnamese Gallantry Cross Unit Citation.
He’s still f-ed up, because the Army wears all unit decorations in a gold frame. And none of them appear to be on his FOIA, either – so he’s not authorized to wear them permanently. But they’re at least where they should be, and are in proper order.
June 10th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
@#66LoNg RaNgE PaTrOL 41 :
Whitgenfeld, first I heard of you copping to being a Liar and a thief. Have you untold your claims on your backtrack? You accused me of stealing your photo. I have seen nowhere any sort of copping to being a lyin’ assed piece of shit. Sobbing the blues here over me calling you both a LIAR and a THIEF ain’t saying anything. The guys that you made that claim with are not here to read your copout.
Your acts will follow you, and I am every bit as chilled out as I care to be as I am calling the time and place on this. Chilling while the meal becomes cold.
Nuf Sed
June 10th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Thanks, Hondo. That clears that up for me. Navy wears everything on the left side, with very few exceptions…or used to. Maybe that’s changed since I left USNav in 1974. But thanks for the heads up.
Still….am I the only who thinks he looks like a bloviating walrus? Gee, I hope I get to meet him in a bar some night. Maybe I could pull out my United Space Fleet ID and show him my ribbons from the Snake Wars…but that’s another story.
June 10th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
I don’t want to get in the middle of this whole thing about whatever Witgenfeld has, or hasn’t, done. I just want to make an observation about Mr. Witgenfeld’s behavior in all of this. I have never seen anyone that is more concerned with his bling than anything else, which leads me to the conclusion he is a complete narcissist. Yeah, my dad was a LRRP in Vietnam. Recondo, Airborne, 11B, etc. He only has 1 Purple Heart, but he has 6 holes in him and a scar that runs from his sternum to just above his groin for that 1 PH. He doesn’t brag or even talk about his bling and hasn’t in over 40 years (my sister was going to make a shadowbox and put his stuff in it and he refused).
I said that to say this: I find it interesting that someone wearing an 82nd Airborne patch on his left shoulder would be wearing a Ranger beret. I don’t know of anyone that would do so (I’m sure Jonn didn’t wear his black Ranger beret once he left the Battalion and if he suited up now wouldn’t wear the tan one, either). Granted, he may wear it all on his skydiving costume for showmanship, but I find it offensive that he would put on his class A uniform and have it all cocked up like that (especially with that shit eating grin; there’s nothing to smile about in that photo). Then, to get on here and denigrate others as being jealous because you have more bling than them goes to the character, or lack thereof, of the person doing the bragging.
I’ll get off my soapbox now. It’s been gnawing at me all day, since reading the comments from the man, himself.
June 10th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
#81 – Old Trooper, the surplus stores, unfortunately, carry loads of decorations and insignia for anyone who wants to buy them.
I lost my bucket hat through several moves since 1974, but I still have the anchor-on-a-screw pin that went on it, which I would gladly wear in public.
The sun and moon are not mirrored in cloudy waters. Thus, the Almighty cannot be mirrored in a heart that is obsessed by the idea of “me” and “mine”. — Sri Kamakrishna
June 10th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
CIB, no CIB, this Navy guy doesn’t know one way or the other.
What I DO know is that his attitude and how he treats people sucks ass. Nuff said.
June 10th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Interesting contrast between Whitgenfeld and Clarence “Sonny” Szejbach http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=30342&cpage=1#comment-633570 . Here’s what the article said about Szejbach, and what he said:
Article: “Szejbach spent 45 days in a hospital in Japan before he returned stateside. The prospect of receiving a medal never entered his mind.”
Szejbach: “When I finally got home and was discharged, I was happy just getting out. At 21 years old I wasn’t paying that much attention to my discharge papers to see if any awards were listed,” he said.”
Article: “Szejbach voiced more than surprise when he learned of the impending — if long overdue — honors.”
Szejbach: “At first I questioned whether it was a mistake, but I will take them at their word,” he said.”
Draw your own conclusions…
June 11th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Man…feel the love here…Dallas is a such a BLOW HARD. Enjoy your visit to Branson,
maybe Dolly Pardon’s show, or the Wild west show can use you as a stand in Clown?? and you can wear that “Droge chute” to slow you down , so the bull can catch your Fat ass, toss and STOMP the shit out of you. Remember practice “situational awareness” while visiting Missouri. And practice “Ducking”…like you did in Vietnam..may save you from getting another purple heart. Ciao…See ya in November!
June 11th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
?”Ode to an aging lawn dart” by ECPetterson
I’m a Shit talking bank book, of ass kicking checks!!
I’m Dallas the Ranger (?), and simply the BEST!
What I loose in the translation, I make up with heckling,
I’m a super troop fibber, when no one is checking,
If I can’t see the play, I make up my own,
I’m Hot with the ladies, try to slip them a bone.
I’m Dilly Dallas Wittgenfeld, that Ariel, Acrobat, Clown.
I’m sure you must know me, I’ve jumped in your town,
About Dallas the patriot parachuting clown.
Sit down a while, and let me expound, on all of my exploits,
and how I’m renown. How I secretly won the War in South Asia,
and sired some kids, we call “Amer-asian”.
In that ramshackle land called Vietnam ,
I Dallas “W” kicked ass on the CONG.
Sure my records are weak, don’t properly show,
all the damage and carnage, and Hell I bestowed.
OLD ” LRRP 41″ , a legend and Hero,
all the rest of you fuckers are nothing but ZEROS.
June 11th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Damn, Scotty. Bravo Zulu. You bucking to become the TAH resident poseur poet or something?
June 11th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Not a poseur yourself (sorry), but a poet who zings poseurs?
June 11th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
I like it! Do some more.
Maybe I could design a badge for these guys to wear, with the motto “Bubulum Stercus Est”.
It means in Latin exactly the same thing that it means in English.
I’ll see what I can do and see if TAH will post it.
June 12th, 2012 at 10:31 am
@ Marine_7002 . That was written by a REAL Army Ranger that has busted dilly Dallas & his claims numerous times.
dilly Dallas will NOT be attending the Military Gala this year.He is like a maytag washing machine trying to stir things up.Personally from the dis-respect that he has shown Mary @ POWnetwork concerning her recently deceased husband ( Chuck). I hope this SOB does come to a town near me. It would be my pleasure to bitch slap the ” clown ” off his face.
June 12th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Hmm someones unit patch doesn’t match his beret.. 82nd doesn’t wear tan and or green berets…
June 12th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
@90 Scotty: ah, got ya. My compliments to him for his creativity!
I missed something somewhere, what did Whitgelfeld say about Chuck Schantag?
June 12th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
This fellow is another fine example of histrionic personality disorder.
My cat Mikey has more medals and ribbons than this illegal obscenity, and Mikey got his awards legitimately, at cat shows.
June 13th, 2012 at 6:48 am
@ 92 Marine_7002 .. dilly Dallas had the nerve to ask Mary if she was lonely yet.
June 14th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QLb9Jw65y8&feature=feedwll&list=WL
June 14th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Enjoy my FLAG PARACHUTE on Flag Day. People treated me like a hero today as I entertained the entire dropzone with Patriotism to the 1st degree. THIS is what I get paid for. Something “Valor Vultures” can never attain anywhere. “SALUTE” maggots…
June 14th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Dallas, the only way you’ll ever entertain the dropzone is if you jump without a ‘chute.
I know I’d be laughing my balls off, anyway.
June 14th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Soooo, got my airlines and Branson rooms on the Lake,too. What a Military Gala it will be. I plan on dancing with “The Queen Bee” in the “Valley of Vultures” during a media feeding frinzy at my table. Invision that..! You all are invited you know. Costs some money to dance with the Black Widow. Yes, I asked Ms. Mary if she was lonely yet.. I didn’t know she would take my personal love letter to you dicky boys. She is NOT a Lady. Don’t you guys think she is HOT too.
I bet Erik, Scotty, and Jonn Jonn jacks-off to her photo on the PoW network during their circle jerks.
Scotty..? Why aren’t you on Face book anymore touting your spews. Bang,. Bang, Bang….. three splashes in a row… you are OUT of Face book… except for the couple others you have hidden..
See what you get for asking me shit…. more to come..
June 14th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
SPARKY ..? You sound so angry. More than usual..? Has something got you going lately.? “LACK OF PATRIOTISM”… Remember, man. I am the guy they hire as the feature opening act at airshows.. If you wanted my autograph you would have to pay the $10.oo admission… and I get a mere nickle of that times 100,000 spectators. Don’t forget it dumb ass.
June 14th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
“Enjoy my FLAG PARACHUTE on Flag Day. People treated me like a hero today as I entertained the entire dropzone with Patriotism to the 1st degree. THIS is what I get paid for.” And there it is, folks. He’s a showman, and that is what he gets paid for. I put on a uniform today, too. No one treated me like a hero. I didn’t get any extra pay. I did get to return the salutes of a few soldiers and officers who saluted me, though, and I got to salute a few senior officers. That was all that I needed. Something tells me that that exemplifies the difference between Dallas and me, and the majority of those here at TAH.
June 14th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Wittgenfeld (Or should I say, “Thunder Chicken”?): Are you just naturally an asshole, or do you make a conscious effort to act like one in public? Is that part of your “schtick” – like it is for some professional wrestlers?
Oh well. Clowns do get paid – even “Thunder the Clown”. I guess everybody has to earn a living somehow.
But this time, if you get behind the controls of the plane, try to remember the FAA required “dry” period before takeoff. Or did you lose your pilot’s license permanently for that stunt?
June 14th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Dallas, why won’t you send the documents requested? May I also ask, if you have said documents then why be so antagonistic about it? If anyone were questioning my integrity or honesty, I’d have my documents in the mail ASAP just to prove them wrong and make them apologize.
I’ve mentioned before, I did a single, uneventful tour in the Marine Corps as an 1833 Assault Amphibious Vehicle Crewman/Crew Chief & Section Leader. Exciting? Nope. Honorable? Yep. Am I proud of my service? Hell Yes!
June 14th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Hey dilly dallas, you’re a prime example of a chunt. Go fuck yourself with your mommas dick.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:30 am
To shed some information on this individual, please follow me back to my days in Korea. During the war, we had radio operators, who had been awarded the CIB from duties as a Squad, Platoon, or Company RTO. (Back in those days, as was the case in WWII, we had two classes of RTO’s the High Speed operators held the MOS of 1766. These guys were classified at 25 wpm on a MIL (Military Typewriter with all caps and numbers.) and sending 25 wpm. We also had to qualify at 60 wpm on an RTT unit. Those who could not reach that pinacle of 25, became Intermediate Speed Radio Operators, with an MOS of 1744. These are the guys who became Infantry Radio Operators,
With the 17th RCT, 7th ID, these 1744′s rotated, after six months on the line, back to either BN HHC, or some even rotated (if they had a good speed) to the Regimental HHC Radio Section. Ironically, back in those days, the Infantryman’s MOS was 1740. See the parallel?, those RTO’s who survived a six month combat tour, loaded down with M1, Ammo, and Radio Equipment, was issued a CIB. Actually, they didn’t need to have an Infantry MOS, all it took was a 30 day tour of duty, in direct combat operations. Another facet in this scenario…for every 1744 who was authorized a CIB, 8 out of ten of them also wore at least one award of the Purple Heart. Therefore, I suggest it possible for him to be awarded the CIB without having an Infantry MOS. However, personally, I think he is an unmitigated lying dipstick of a douche bag. Then again, that is only one man’s personal opinion, but I’ll stick with it.
Back to Wittgenfeld; my first take on the photo was the inconsistency in his awards, especially, the unit awards, and yes, as has been previously mentioned, where are the brass ribbon wreaths??? Unit Awards???, only the Navy and the USMC wear their unit awards as unheralded ribbons
June 15th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Well Said Ringo..! Common knowledge in Vietnam that I and all others like ME get C.I.B.s because we are killing gooks man. Lots of gooks, head counts to the Generals. We didn’t give a shit about the C.I.B.s…. minor detail to staying alive. GOT THAT dumb asses.
And after 4 decades of teying to forget my trail assassinations life in the jungles of Vietnam, now I can have a bunch of young punk half-assers.. berating me for fun and sport.
Realistically, you all have pissed off a severe PTSD LRRP ASSASSIN who just now bought a gun and gerber for the big party. I will be arriving by an flying American Flag in Branson. FRONT PAGE everytime. I get to dance with “the Queen Bee” in her honey pot… music and all. Life is good.
June 15th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Yeah, ass munch, way to help the perception of veterans with your idiot PTSD threats, cum bubble. But then we already know that you don’t give a fuck about anyone’s military service except your own. And you’re a liar about yours. Show me the orders.
I hope someone stomps your punk/pussy ass and soon.
June 15th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Dallas, my questions still stands. Your refusal to answer speaks volumes! I have a cousin who was an 8541 who NEVER referred to himself as an assassin. In your case it should be ASSassin. You are a disgrace to the Army and to the NCO Corps. Please don’t respond with bluster and bullshit, you’re so pathetic, or retarded, you don’t even realize how ridiculous you make yourself look. Actually I think you are so mentally gone, you might actually believe the lie you’ve been living. Kicking your @$$ would be like smacking a dog with a newspaper a week after he left a turd on the rug. He wouldn’t know why he was getting smacked. You’re just like that dog.
June 15th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Dallas, I’m not angry. I’m merely semi-annoyed and mildly amused by your old man bullshit antics. It’s going to be fun when you finally get that mudhole stomped in your ass you so richly deserve. I’ve seen nothing from you that would sway my opinion of you away from the majority here. At first I was on the fence. Now I’m firmly in the “Dallas is a moldy douchenozzle” camp. Why do you feel the need to “compensate” for what you never achieved? Hiding something, perhaps?
To quote Bruce Banner, “You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry.”
June 15th, 2012 at 8:05 am
I’m guessing ole’ Dallas’ body count is vastly exaggerated from the actual number of, oh, let’s just say ZERO. Now him being an assassassin, totally believeable, of course you may be wanted by local authorities Dallas, because buggering the local livestock is a crime.
June 15th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Ah yes, I can see it now:
(Carnival barker speaking to the crowd):
Step right up, ladies and gentlemen. Come see the one, the incredible, the only Dallas “Thunder Chicken” Wittgenfeld – a legend in his own mind! He served where no man has served before! He went skydiving in Vietnam for the hell of it! He flies at 4AM while shitfaced! Taught the Thai army how to fight personally on his own time (the Army has no record of it)! Bullshits his way into the SFA! And performed many other ‘amazing’ feats!
He’s the incredible ‘Thunder the Clown’ and ‘Thunder Chicken’! And he wants to tell everybody about his derring-do in person, ad nauseum, until they puke!
Come right in, ladies and gentlemen! See the one, the only, the truly incredible blowhard tool! Only $1 each!
Come see a horse’s ass talk! For real!”
June 15th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Guys, I’m new to this thread, only saw it because of the massive rush of posts today, so I’ve updated myself. Let me see if I can summarize…this self-promoting ass hat is going to the Military Gala, has threated to bring “a gun and a gerber”, which I assume means he’s trying to hurt someone who’s talking “bad” about him, has apparently taken part in “trail assasinations”, and has mentioned his medals and honors more times in on this blog post than most real soldiers do during their entire careers. Does that sound about right?
Dallas if you’re still reading this thread for the ego-inflating boost that true narcissists get from even negative publicity, then I have a message for you: This blog has a large chunk of readers who are active duty military, many of whom are still deployed in combat, myself included. While medals and awards are a postive reminder that others recognize what you’ve done, to inflate your own self-worth by claiming something you don’t deserve is disgusting. You may be a “hero” in your own mind, and whoever you’ve taken in with your little song and dance over the years, but the general consensus around here is that you…are…a…joke. Whatever dignity and respect you’ve tried to garner for yourself by getting on this site to defend your reputation has been destroyed by the petty replies and absolutely ridiculous way you’ve conducted yourself. Stop wearing your old uniform. You’re a disgrace.
June 15th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Well put, ArmyJ. Thanks.
June 15th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Mary @ POWnetwork.org is still waiting on your money order dilly Dallas. Guess you were talking shit there as well. And as for having me kicked off of Facebook… WOW . I’m impressed little boy. Like its so hard to create another acct. You really need to pop out of your second childhood fool. Your pissing off a shitload of people & that isn’t good for a clown to be falling out of the sky on..LOCK & LOAD ! Hope to see you coming to a town near me. P.S. Say hi to Arthur South ( Cookie ) & Tony Meyers ( Browser ) for me commo clown….Thank you & Welcome home 05B2P & 05B2O RTO Dallas Wittgenfeld .
June 15th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Ringo: how the CIB may have been awarded in Korea is irrelevant here. Wittgenfeld served in Vietnam, not Korea, and served more than 15 years after the Korean armistice. Policies and regulations change over time.
Wittgenfeld served in Vietnam as an enlisted soldier in 1969-70. Army criteria for award of the CIB at that time required him to (1) hold an infantry MOS, (2) serve in that infantry MOS, and (3) be engaged in ground combat while holding an infantry MOS and serving in same. No infantry MOS, no CIB. Not serving in an infantry duty position at brigade or lower level when engaged in ground combat, no CIB.
There were two exceptions to this criteria. The first exception was for those in Laos and Vietnam (1) performing formal advisory duty (e.g., on orders as an advisor) to the Laotian and South Vietnamese forces who (2) engaged in combat while advising those forces. The second exception was for non-infantry officers who commanded infantry units of brigade or smaller size in combat for 30+ days.
Wittgenfeld qualifies for neither exception. He obviously never was the commander of an infantry unit. And liaison/informal advisory duty with Thai forces – if he ever actually did that, ’cause it doesn’t seem to show up in his official records – does not count.
I’ve provided the 1969-1970 CIB criteria and references on the other Wittgenfeld thread ( http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=29970 ). Under those criteria, given the information provided from Wittgenfeld’s official records by NPRC in response to a FOIA it appears highly doubtful that Wittgenfeld’s CIB is legit.
Wittgenfeld’s official records show he had no assignment to an infantry duty position. All of his duty positions in Vietnam were as an 05B radio operator. Until he produces CIB orders, people will continue question the validity of his CIB. And they should, because it appears questionable as hell.
My guess is that the only place Wittgenfeld’s CIB appears in his official records is on his DD214, and that it was placed there in error. But I could be wrong. Wittgenfeld can easily prove me wrong by providing a redacted copy of orders showing he was awarded the CIB and showing issuing HQ/date/order number. In the past Wittgenfeld has had no problem providing others with orders for his Purple Hearts (see the link in comment 63 above). So if CIB orders exist awarding Wittgenfeld a CIB, I rather doubt he’s lost them.
The fact that Wittgenfeld refuses to provide CIB orders after previously providing those for his Purple Hearts IMO is telling.
June 15th, 2012 at 9:14 am
I want to see his orders for his Air Medal! Isaw no assignment to a aviation comany? Before you talk down to me BOOT I was in Nam starting Jun 66 thru Sept. 68.You are not awarded a Air Medal for for riding in and out of LZs.
June 15th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Joe Williams: see the link in comment 63 above. That claim appears legit.
June 15th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Part of the problem here (perhaps the greatest part?) is the attitude.
It matters not what awards one has or has not earned – simple courtesy is the order of the day. Hate to use the word “civility,” since it is nearing overuse these days, but it is a perfectly legitimate word in this situation.
Most of us default to a high level of respect for those who have earned military awards. It’s just what we do. However, having earned awards does not give anyone a pass on basic civility toward others.
So, Dallas, your inability to interact with the rest of us, who really, really want to respect what you have earned, shows you to be a thug. Your thuggery makes it impossible to give you the respect that you earned. You can demand it from now until the end of time – the reality is simply that you and your own actions have made it impossible for us to give that to you.
Sad.
June 15th, 2012 at 9:40 am
I’d make a different distinction, OWB. Service deserves respect in and of itself. However, individuals earn respect through their actions.
I respect Wittgenfeld’s service. His documented record – ARCOM w/V, 2 PHs, AM, honorable combat service under extremely arduous conditions – is worth of respect on its face, with or without a CIB and regardless of where or when it was performed.
The individual? Feh. He forfeited any claim to deserving respect when he showed up here behaving like a drunken version of “Thunder Chicken” having a simultaneous “bad hair day” plus hemorrhoid flare-up.
June 15th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Clowns are NOT thugs dumb asses. Clowns lead kids around like the pide piper… welcome to my show. And I am very excited to verify that there are current active duty military harassing and dishonoring me, here too. You are surely walking on a razor blade path…
If you jack offs really checked me out… People who actually know me… Do NOT fuck around with me. I have NEVER had my ass whipped by anybody, ever. Got that picture. Thunder Chicken was a Bad-Ass before he was an LRRP assassin on the trails of Vietnam.
Now that all you brainiacs have realalized that I have everything I wear on my uniform… Isn’t it time you ALL apologize to me now..?
By the way OWB..? I am NOT trying to “interact” with you idiots. The gun and knife thing is for my protection… that’s all. I have 9 other buncers at my table anyway…
Do you guys get a trophy for beating up a 63 year old clown on this thread. Sounds like it to me… and many others that you spoke about. Congratulations..
June 15th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Posting here at all IS interaction. Too bad that you are so insecure in your manhood that you have to threaten widows and orphans to feel good about yourself. Whoever you are.
Sad.
And Hondo – I cannot disagree with your analysis. When we paint with broad strokes, something invariably gets lost in the translation.
June 15th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Ah….and cue the interwebz tough guy.
Very scary…….
June 15th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Soooooo, you people think I need money to get in the Ms. Mary’s Annual Military Gala.? Excuse me while I laugh out loud. Have you noticed in all my newspaper storys that I get in everywhere for free. I just have a way about me.
The Black Widow will be begging me to come 1 week before the Gala. Right on time. You know in the entertainment business… “Timing is Everything”. Her media kit is already produced.
June 15th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Is it just me or are his posts sounding more and more deranged? I’m starting to think that this is just a troll looking for conflict. From his statements about what he’s done and the publicity, I’d expect someone a little more eloquent and able to respond reasonably to the issues posted here.
Read what this guy is writing again. Does this sound like the same clown in the pictures? After I read the posts again I realized this sounds like a 14 year old internet tough guy and we might be wasting our time. If it really is him, well. Let his comments speak for themselves. By the way, how did this descend into physical threats from the assassin? He still hasn’t answered, or even acknowledged the request for his CIB award orders. Clown.
In Forest Gump Voice: “Well that’s all I’ve got to say about that.”
June 15th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Since I have met all you weenies on the internet, I have found and charted her organizational web, including you all on here. The Branson Military Gala is where ALL the chips are going to fall.
June 15th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Dallas–stop. Hurt. Sides. Laughing.
June 15th, 2012 at 10:05 am
“I have NEVER had my ass whipped by anybody, ever. Got that picture.” Yeah, sure got it pal. It’s a picture of copious amounts of bovine fecal matter flowing forth from that hole in your face. Get over yourself dude.
June 15th, 2012 at 10:07 am
People who actually know me… Do NOT fuck around with me.
Probably because they’re too busy laughing their balls off. Your beclowing yourself provides too much free entertainment, why would they fuck with you and tell you to stop?
I have NEVER had my ass whipped by anybody, ever.
The phrase, “waste of effort” comes to mind here.
June 15th, 2012 at 10:07 am
O Yah… on that head-count thing… I have pictures holding the Viet Cong and NVA heads, dumb asses… Now aren’t you all ashamed yet for harassing and dishonoring me a real deal combat wounded elite paratrooper of the real deal 75th INFANTRY Airborne Rangers trained by Special Forces in Vietnam…? THAT is your “elephant in the room”.
Others who are watching your harassments to me (the jury of public opinion) will eat you all alive when you all are exposed. “Slam Dunkker” for me…
June 15th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Oooooh, Sparky – we’re on a CHART!!! (Is there a tab for that?) So. Skeered.
June 15th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Sure you do Dillweed, Dallas…whatever the fuck your name is.
June 15th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Really, NVA and VC heads? Despite the fact the VC was pretty much finished after Tet in 1968?
Oh, and isn’t decapitation desceration of a corpse, and as such a war crime, Dallas? Just checking.
June 15th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Dilly Dallas , So nice of you to bring up News paper Stories . Perhaps you will enlighten us on why you allowed the tabloids to claim that you had earned the bronze Star in RVN. One simple phone call would have straighten this out. But you allowed it to be printed for over 5 years in numerous newspapers in the State of Ohio in the early seventies. Please explain RTO boy .
June 15th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Apologize, Wittgenfeld? After you provide proof that your CIB is legitimate, yes. Before then, no.
And no, I’m not buying that “everything you wear on your uniform is legit”. I’m not yet convinced your CIB is legit, and your FOIA records don’t show you rate any unit awards for permanent wear either. I’m also not finding the units your records show you served with in Vietnam on the Army’s master list of unit awards as having received unit awards while you were in Vietnam, either. So unless and until you provide proof you were serving in a unit awarded the PUC, VUA, or MUA at the time those awards were granted the unit, I’ll question the legitimacy of you wearing those, too. Army policy is that you can only wear them permanently if you were in the unit (or formally attached) at the time they were awarded.
I also want to see the orders for that “Bronze Star for valor” you were identified in published articles as having a number of years ago. I’m guessing you were the source of that info, and that claim appears bogus. That award doesn’t appear on your FOIA, either.
Post your “killer” photo if you like. But if I were you, I’d think twice about that. I don’t think there’s any statute of limitations for war crimes, and if you’re doing something in those photos that you wouldn’t want your mom to see, well, these days you just might find yourself in trouble. Just ask the idiots who got busted for doing stupid stuff at Abu Ghraib and with corpses in Afghanistan recently.
Regarding clowns: clowns are those who act like, well, clowns. Some do it professionally for the money. Some do it because they like to be the center of attention. And some do it because they’re naturally clownish.
My guess is that you act like a clown for all of those reasons. Whatever floats your boat.
June 15th, 2012 at 10:46 am
And crickets sound once again from the ” clowns” corner.
June 15th, 2012 at 10:50 am
This can’t be real. On a side note, I’m just a dumb-ass infantryman. Can someone please translate this :
“I have found and charted her organizational web, including you all on here.”
Is an organizational web some sort of elite special forces, ranger assassin target planning tool? I don’t know about you guys but when I get home I’ll be looking twice before I cross the street at night. Sounds like Branson is gonna be a bloodbath.
June 15th, 2012 at 10:53 am
From: “Dallas Wittgenfeld”
To:
Cc: “P.O.W. Network”
Subject: Please verify what PoW group you all are…?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:48:17 -0400
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Dear PoW Network National Coordinator, Lacy Rourke,
Dear Ms. Lacy Rourke,
I am a combat wounded 100% disabled Vietnam War Veteran of the elite Airborne Rangers and who has never quit parachuting in 4 decades. I often fly the PoW-MiA flag under my American Flag Parachute, see attached.
Recently I read about the PoW Network 16th Annual Military Gala featuring the “Purple Heart” theme. I thought I have mailed a $550.oo U.S Postal Money Order to you all. But now, my Purple Heart combat disability check is going to an organization who has actually listed me as “a poser” on the internet. O.M.G.
Please..? Who are you and what is your address..? Maybe your other PoWnetwork will give my stipence to you. I don’t know.
Maybe, they are you. The Veterans Administration keeps trying to follow the PoW MiA and I say I don’t know.
Please send me “something legal” to verify your authenticity vs the your sister PoW Network..?
Sincerely Yours In Patriotism,
U.S. Army Drill Sergeant, Dallas Wittgenfeld (ret)
June 15th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Does the Army give Air Medals for just being Airborne? Navy/Marines are awarded Air medals for flight missions,actual flight crew assignments. I see no basis for the Air Medal Claim.
June 15th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Jesus, Scotty–that e-mail looks like it was typed by the love child of Don King and a retarded walrus.
And I’d love to know where I fall on POW Network’s Org Chart. AFAIK, Mrs. Schantag or anyone associated with that site doesn’t even know I exist.
June 15th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Joe Williams:
No – has to be for some type of participation in air operations as other than a passenger. But it would be plausible if he temporarily served as a gunner for a while, or flew on a few missions delivering critical supplies or gear and helped load/unload those supplies.
Orders document this one (see the link in comment 63), and are for acts performed during a short period (approx 2 weeks in 1970). The orders are also apparently in his records, as one Air Medal appears on both his FOIA records and on his DD214. And Army aircrews from that era typically ended up with WAY more than one Air Medal.
Again: assuming the orders aren’t a forgery, this one appears legit.
June 15th, 2012 at 11:15 am
My last comment (136) are e-mails intercepted from dilly Dallas to another Veterans support group claiming he sent his money order to Mary @ POWnetwork by mistake. The word from Mary is that she has received nothing at all from this clown or it would be sent back to the sender.I bet you dilly Dallas has double doors in his house so that he can get his swelled embellishing head through. He is pissing a lot of people off with his stupidity.What a miserable old fool this jack wagon clown has turned out to be. Thank you & Welcome home RTO Wittgenfeld !
June 15th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Does the Army award Combat Air Crew Wings? Earhing a Air Medal also earns oneself Combat Air Crew Wings. We helo crew chiefs are are very guarded about this. Yes , nonaviation MOS’s can have flight Orders. Show your TDY and Flight orders Dallas.
June 15th, 2012 at 11:29 am
“Quote”Thunder Chicken was a Bad-Ass before he was an LRRP assassin on the trails of Vietnam.”Unquote” You were never a LRRP in RVN dilly Dallas as the 151st went from “LRRP” status to “Ranger” status 5 months before you were assigned to the unit. Your busted on yet another false claim RTO boy.
June 15th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Hey Scotty… You must be directly associated with the POW network to have this confidential POW-MIA information Thank you for your participation…
I see you didn’t publish their response letter to me. Guess what is happening in Washington D.C. right now…? Don’t fuck around with “THE REAL LRRPs”.
Please quit trying to stick some other internet dumb asses to me… I am ME, the lone wolf.. Well technically, I am more like “A Kamakazi” that did not die and now I get to play with you all “unauthorized uniform police”. Hmmmmmm..?
On that Air Medal. Goober..? Easy money there too. Just like the C.I.B. It just happened to me. I had well over 25 combat air assaults which qualifies any troop in Vietnam an Air Medal. GET A LIFE JACK-OFFS….
WAR CRIMES…? That’s what I told the V.A… They have been trying for years to convince me I wasn’t an assassin. I was a hero. But the medicines never really stopped my dreams of blood and guts when I was only 19-20 years old.
Head counts in the jungles were normal.. no war crimes…on anybody, BUT I did see war crimes… which still haunt me. We were the executioners… We found the enemy silently, watched them silently for days and when I called our helicopter… we killed everybody at the same time… and we 5 or 6 young punks with Ranger Scrools, camo faces, and tiger stripes, escaped alive, over, and, over, and, over, and over..
While I was doing this..? You punks were sucking your Mama’s tits. That’s another “Elephant in your room”..
June 15th, 2012 at 11:36 am
http://www.ranger151.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26
On 1 FEB 69, the Department of the Army (DA) reorganized all regular army LRP units to “letter” Ranger companies of the 75th Infantry. DA also ordered the increase of the authorized strength of D/151 from 214 to 230 personnel. This action enlarged the number of patrol platoons from three to four, increased the number of individual patrol personnel from five to six, eliminated the unit’s parachute packing section and called for a Major as commander. Additionally, D/151′s parenthetical designation was changed from “LRP” to “RANGER.” D/151 became the and only reserve component Ranger unit of any war to fight in combat. Additionally, USARV was directed to secure 20 slots in each of the first three MACV recondo classes of 1969, beginning in January, and unit members began to attend this highly elite school run by the 5th Special Forces in Nha Trang, following the completion of unit training with F/51.
RA Dallas Wittgenfeld was assigned to this unit in Aug.69.
June 15th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Please all you harrassers and dishonorers hereon… Please write your mailing address right here:
______________________________________
______________________________________
______________________________________
______________________________________
The Veteran’s Affairs wants to warn you all, of me.
The PTSD Clinic in Daytona VA told me.. “It is their job to warn you all.”
Welcome to my world…..
June 15th, 2012 at 11:41 am
@143–uh oh, someone’s “compensating.”
June 15th, 2012 at 11:41 am
This guys full of more shit than a backed up latrine…
June 15th, 2012 at 11:42 am
harrassers and dishonorers
Sounds like you’ve got that one down pretty well, Dallas.
June 15th, 2012 at 11:42 am
rom: “Dallas Wittgenfeld”
To: “P.O.W. Network”
Subject: Re: Fwd: 16th Annual Military Gala
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:27:36 -0400
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Dear Mary….. if this is Mary..?
You will have to sign for it, or reject it on the Federal Dime…. no matter what ?
Do the right thing and do not discriminate against me. It is against the law you know. Especially if you accept donations… right…?
Use your head, Mary. I am a great dancer, honey. Are you lonely yet…?
Sincerely Yours In Patriotism,
Purple Heart Parachutist
Para Commando, Dallas Wittgenfeld
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From: P.O.W. Network
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:09 AM
To: Dallas Wittgenfeld
Subject: Re: Fwd: 16th Annual Military Gala
I REITERATE –
Please keep your money Mr Wittgenfeld. As the host of the private event – we can refuse seating to anyone. You are not welcome. Your presence would create a disturbance and I will not have the evening ruined.
Your money order will be returned.
Mary Schantag
At 10:01 AM 6/10/2012, Dallas Wittgenfeld wrote:
Thank you for getting back to me PoWnetwork, Mary Schantag,
I have never caused a disturbance anywhere before, Mam.
I am a bonafide combat disabled Vietnam War Veteran of the elite Airborne Rangers, no matter what your Lieutenants have to say. I am everything I say I am and with 2 Purple Hearts. Now what’s the problem.?
Please do not discriminate against a 100% combat disabled Vietnam Veteran War hero just because of a couple not combat wounded weenies musings. I really do have a Combat Infantry Badge orders, too. Wouldn’t the crowd of Patriots enjoy that moment brought to them by you and me..? I know, I could sell many more Gala tickets to your behalf.
So, I am sending you a Federal Registered U.S. Postal Money Order with your name on it for $550.oo. Give me a good table up front and send back my receipt; or your official PoWnetwork signature discriminating against me…? Don’t screw up.
Sincerely Yours In Patriotism,
LoNg RaNgE PaTrOL 41
Para Commando Dallas Wittgenfeld (LRP)
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From: P.O.W. Network
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:02 AM
To: Dallas Wittgenfeld ; Jonn Lilyea
Subject: Re: Fwd: 16th Annual Military Gala
Please keep your money Mr Wittgenfeld. As the host of the private event – we can refuse seating to anyone. You are not welcome. Your presence would create a disturbance and I will not have the evening ruined.
Mary Schantag
June 15th, 2012 at 11:42 am
You fucking moron pussy-ass bitch, if you mention PTSD one more time, I’m personally going to stomp your ignorant ass. I already have your address and the means to get there.
June 15th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Mickey Mouse
Enchanted Castle
Orlando Florida,32830
1-800-GET BENT
June 15th, 2012 at 11:47 am
BTW Dallas I know this is small fry but you mentioned of having accts. shut down on facebook. Looks like that works both ways doesn’t it RTO boy. Oh, that’s right, You shut your accts. down on your own. Your such a noble hero… NOT !!
June 15th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Oh, shit. Jonn’s pissed.
“Say ‘PTSD’ again. Say ‘PTSD’ again, I dare you, I double dare you motherfucker, say PTSD one more Goddamn time!”
But on a serious note, Dallas–I would expect anyone who has spent time in uniform, combat or not, to know that simply throwing down the PTSD card as you have does no good, and in fact in the eyes of most of us, is quite counterproductive.
IOW, unless you know what you’re talking about, and it’s pretty apparent you don’t, pretty please, STFU.
June 15th, 2012 at 11:53 am
……. “Delta Rangers 151st INFANTRY” “Delta Rangers 75th INFANTRY” LoNg RaNgE PaTrOL 41 here……. over…!
The rest of my team are all dead…. I am the last paratrooper standing…. and jumping.. How about that..
Good going Scotty. You found out I was at the same etchelon as the MAC-V S.O.G….. but I was the “Special Liaison Advisor” for the Special Forces trained, Air America flown, and C.I.A. funded mercenaries of the Royal Thailand Army Airborne operating off of BearCat Special Operating Base where parachuting-training was common place. You KNOW I WAS JUMPING, right…?
Hey I got to jump… land… and get in a Thailand jeep (by myself) and drive to Saigon and screw the whores on TuDo Street too. War is hell…
June 15th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Walter Mitty with a short dick complex.
Those that woof the loudest, have done the least.
June 15th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Dallas, something tells me you’re the kind who, like Yon, would enjoy those Bangkok “ladyboys” more.
Just watch those Adam’s Apples, man–I hear they shave those down so it’s even harder to tell. Or maybe you like that. Meh.
June 15th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Uh oh….dickwad’s about to get his face pushed in. Post pictures!
June 15th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
@ 154–like I said, the love child of Don King and a retarded walrus.
Tell me, Dallas–is it hard doing that two-mile run in size 27 squeaky shoes? And do you have to have that music playing in the background while you run behind the little car trying to catch it?
June 15th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
NOW, do you brainiacs know what will happen when Ms. Non-Profit discriminates against me 100% disabled Vietnam War Hero; hich is also a Purple Heart Patriot of the Year and being unfairly with predigeous excluded..? Proof is right here on Jonn Jonn’s page… Ouch, Ouch, Ouch…! See where this is going.
Follow the Pide Piper… down the trail.
Did you young stupid Veterans lie, twist the facts, and threaten me after I went off, hereon..? You are guilty.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I don’t think it has anything to do with your military fables man, you’re just a flaming doucherocket.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
And I’m still wondering how a guy who claims 100 percent disability is still jumping out of airplanes.
Curiouser and curiouser.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Oef Veteran
Prior to my comments on our other page about backing away from DW but keeping him on the radar I began investigating this RTAVF-SLS and came across a gentleman who had posted on a page that he had served in this very unit. The page was a Vietnam Veterans page where they come to find old buddies and reminisce about the old days and those lost. Anyway I sent this gentleman an E-Mail to find out what this RTAVF-SLS was and what follows is his reply…
“I was with the RTAVF-SLS from about March of 68 to November 68. I was on the original 18 man team that was put together in Viet Nam. We were sent to Northern Thailand for 2 months to train with the Black Panther Division of the Royal Thai Army. The official name of our team was the Royal Thai Army Volunteer Force – Special Liaison Section. Our job was to coordinate support actions with the Thai Army, things like artillery support, aerial support, medical evac., etc. When we were first pulled together as a team at Long Binh Post, I don’t think any of us knew really what we were in for. If I remember correctly, the team consisted of a Lt Col. as the team leader, 7 other officers and 10 enlisted personnel. I was an E-4 at the time and had radio qualifications so I think that is why I was picked along with 3 other E-4′s who also were radio qualified. After the training period in Thailand, we brought the Division to Viet Nam via troop ships. We ended up at a 9th Infantry Division’s Basecamp, Bearcat. The 9th was being relocated further north if I recall correctly. The area was supposed to be relatively quiet as far as enemy activity was concerned and that was the reason the Thai’s were deployed there. It gave II Field Force Command the ability to move the 9th into areas where they could be more effective. My routine consisted of spending several days at one of two Firebases (artillery outposts) that the Thai’s were in charge of and then back to Basecamp for a few days and then out again. The Firebases were positioned in such a way as to provide fire support for the main Basecamp should it come under attack. They also provided artillery support for actions that were in their range. You have to remember that for the most part, our team was comprised of young guys (19 – 25) with the exception of the senior officers (who basically stayed in Basecamp). Which is to say, we didn’t have a clue. The basic role we played was to be the go-between with other Allied troops who were in our area so as to help the Thai’s coordinate actions with or to directly handle communications with US troops for support of the Thai’s.
As for the person you mentioned in your email, Dallas Wittgenfeld, he was not on our original team but may have been after I left in Nov of 68. The Black Panther Division did not stay in Viet Nam for an extended period of time as there were some problems with overall support of their actions by the US Gov’t. The Thais were getting all of their equipment from us and it was costing much more than I think was planned for. I think the Thai Army pulled out in 1969 but am not sure. As to the claims that Wittgenfeld lead Thai troops, I can safely say that is not correct. The Liaison Team was not there to provide any leadership roles of any kind. I can tell you that I (and other team members) did participate in patrol activities that were sent out from the Firebases, I was involved in actions when we assaulted known VC locations in villages, (twice), at the Firebases we received mortar fire many (lots) times that resulted in casualties that I had to evac out as well as handling other communications with other support activities resulting from these actions. I will tell you that on one patrol, we buried approximately 30 VC bodies in a large hole after a long engagement on a sweep action. But did we lead any of the Thai troops, absolutely not.”
The following is a shortened version of his final comments to me…
“I get ticked when someone like the guy you mentioned tries to “embellish” the service he provided (and should be proud of) for the sake of making his role something other than what it was. I’ll get off my soap box now.”
June 15th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Oh Yah Scotty…. I have NO CONTROLS on the newspaper scribes in a town or city I jump into. Newspapers in the same town told different stories… what the hell is up with that..? Right.. No connection to my scribes. Never wore anything I didn’t earn… so you are fucked…. Go find that picture… NOT… Then shut the fuck up idiot Jar-Head…
June 15th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Doesn’t he have to share computer time with the other patients? He should be about at his time limit by now.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
You’re skirting the issue, Wittgenfeld. Where did those journalists get the info regarding your military awards? I doubt that they’d file a FOIA to get it, or just make it up. They’d ask you instead.
I’m guessing you told them you had a BSM for valor. And later, when folks started asking, you “toned it down” and quit making that bogus claim.
But I could be wrong. Maybe they did just MSU (make stuff up).
June 15th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Long Range Patrol41? Did you know Gene Ryack and Billy Covington? I think I remember them talking about you or with you about your service? They flew with Air America.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Hey Scotty…. Your Special Liaison Advisor for the Thais was old-hat in 1968, Man. I was there in 1970… when all the Cambodian cross-over shit was going on… got that. Thais could fly there without being shot down… Soooo, If I wasn’t “leading the way” how did I get shot up in May and an Airmedal… ? Another “Elephant in your stupid room”.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Yea we don’t have any photo’s of a clown skydiving in RVN for the benefit of the orphans either RTO boy. Sucks having a Marine Grunt call you out on your embellishing lies doesn’t it RTO boy. And as for the Military Gala. It is a ” private ” event & the hosts can deny any ones request to partake there of. You don’t have the money to send for the request & You damn sure don’t have the balls to show up.Now go eat your soft cereal old man before you really piss some one off.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
I didn’t party with Air America man… I just know them by their combat callsigns… Hotel 12…. Hotel 24… and so on.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Longe Range Patrol41: Jack Neely was another pilot over there, Jack, Gene, and Billy were pilots from 65-71 with Air America. Jack had his own little putt putt course, I’m sure there are pictures of you there drinking and BBQ’ing with them. I have to find them though.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Telling a flaming asshole to piss off isn’t discrimination, Wittgenfeld. Good luck with that one.
And tell us again how your “Thai Advisor” duty – which wouldn’t qualify you for a CIB even if it really occurred – is documented in your military records?
June 15th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Oh SNAP!! You done got busted son!
June 15th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
I might be wrong, but since I was actually an 11B1P…..If I am not mistaken when awarded the CIB the Airborne wings move to the breast pocket, It might just be a unit mandated move and could possibly be different, but I know for a fact the 173rd and 82nd do not put their Airborne wings directly under their CIB’s. The only time I have ever seen it different is with WW2 vets since regulations were somewhat different then.
Am I wrong?
June 15th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Speaking only about the Class A uniform.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Hondo–you seen them Thai ladyboys, man? I mean, he got turned on to one that had just taken out Yon and General Wat Du Phuck. It was dicey. No way you could actually tell short of going downtown and seeing if there was indoor or outdoor plumbing, if ya know what I mean.
Scary shit right there.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Oef Veteran : Basically what the RTAVF-SLS was the American Liasons for the Thai so they could communicate with the other forces working in the AO. Dallas being a Commo puke would have been a likely asset as my contact was also a Commo guy. Furthermore I am beginning to suspect that Thunderchickens PH awards were due to incoming fire on one of the firebases. He was assigned to an Arty unit after he left Delta 151/75 if I remember correctly. This would make sense since Firebases were prime targets for mortars.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Hey, Dallas–I hear you and Spooky 8 (aka, “The Anal Emission”) are tight too. Care to expand on that?
June 15th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Has dickcheese ran in the stolen valor tourney yet? If not im paying the nomination thread a visit.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Dallas for once in your life tell the damn truth but all of know you will not. All of these men who are stating the facts are REAL military guys who served our country and are proud of what they did. It did not matter how long or what they did. They served. You could have been proud of what you did. Instead you embellished your service. When I told you to come back to my Vietnam veterans group and face the the Vietnam vets and they will destroy you for your embellishing ways. You despise when a woman stands up to you. There are two of us that have and all you can do is post sexual remarks. Instead of answering me you created a sexual group with my name. Thanks to men like Scott and many others you harass, they reported you for creating the page and in less than 24 hours it was shut down by fb. Keep going on with your lies. Nobody is buying it. The sand in your hourglass has run out….
June 15th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
I think it’s clear to everyone here by now that this guy has crossed over beyond the usual trolls and stolen valor violation defenders on here into some serious mental instability. As much fun as I’ve been having checking this thread all night to watch the electronic ass-kickery I submit that what we could do to piss this turd off more than anything is to immediately stop responding to his posts. You’re all trying to use rational arguments against a lunatic. This guy’s mom clearly should have swallowed.
That is all.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Redacted1775: I’ll second the nomination. And if this thread is any indication, he might have a good shot for making the fecal four on asshattery alone.
– break –
NHSparky: that wasn’t exactly the kind of “Thai Advisor” duty I was asking Wittgenfeld about. (smile)
June 15th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Skysoldier just proved dingaling was full of shit in post #’s 166 and 170. Best part is he gave him just enough rope to hang himself with. He’s been awful quiet for the past half hour or so.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Say Hi to Arthur South & Tony Meyers for me RTO boy.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
He’s now a tourney nominee. (smile)
June 15th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Why ya bullshittin, Hondo? He’s a 1 or 2-seed for sure.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Maybe, NHSparky – since he’s now nominated. We’ll see what the seeding committee says.
But that only gives him a good shot at making the fecal four – which was what I said. (smile)
June 15th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Depends on the path to get there. Remember, Duke was a 2-seed, and look what happened to them.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
NHSparky: that’s why I said “good shot” vice “lock”. (smile)
June 15th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
http://scotty-stolenvaloroffendersexposed.blogspot.com/2012/06/three-idioteers.html
June 15th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Hey Dildo Dallas.. I am still waiting for those “VA Cops” and shit you keep crying like a spanked bitch about, to show up at my door. Nothing.. maybe it is cause i am 100% disabled veteran too… Hmm, Oh, and you say “They be talking in DC… really?? About YOU??? Bwhahahahahaahahahahahaaahahahahahahaaaa… deep breath.. hahahahahahahaahahahaahhavaabewhahahahahahhahahabwbwbwbahahahaa, Oh GAWD my sides hurt.. maybe the IRS is talking about you but not a single fucking soul in DC give a screamin “Thunder chicken turd from the heavens” about you or have a damn clue who you are. But, I have a feeling that the places that get the info that you are a embellishing P.O.S.will not be asking you to jump ( unless it is withOUT a chute) for them any more… you have screwed yourself little girl.. Congrats, you are an Official RETARD!
June 15th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
He still hasn’t breathed so much as a word about providing the order that would show his CIB is legit. Figures.
So he’s gonna “lawer” up and file a lawsuit when he’s denied entrance to the pownetwork function…that’ll be just as empty a threat as the the other ones he’s made, and those we’ve heard from phonies and wannabees such as “Mailman.”
June 15th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
I call you a liar dallas. being flown as a passenger into a LZ does count as flight orders for a Air Medal. What are your injuries hat entitle you to 100% with the VA. You do not rate a Air Medal, show your orders and /or ciations for said awards.
June 15th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
@174: Yeah, I mentioned how f-ed up the picture of him in his class As was, too.
Now that he continues to talk like a douche, I will treat him as such. If he needs to brag like a 12 year old in order to feel good about himself, then I guess we should treat him as such.
Then he says stupid shit like this: People treated me like a hero today as I entertained the entire dropzone with Patriotism to the 1st degree. THIS is what I get paid for.
Really, Dallas? You have to be paid to be a patriot? You have to be paid to have people call you a hero? You brag about being called a hero? What the fuck is that all about? What about the rest of us, that you denigrate, who don’t get paid to display patriotism? Who don’t ask for a fucking dime to spend time at a Vets Home helping and talking with Vets that just want to visit with fellow Veterans? That raise money for the children of our fallen, so they can get an education, while spending our own money to do so? Those that donate our time and money to help wounded warriors? We don’t get paid and we don’t expect to be paid, or called “hero”. We do it because it’s right, not because we want to bask in the adoration and be called “hero”. If you want to be a walking, talking, dick with ears, that’s your call, but don’t expect anyone to feel sorry for you if you step on your wiener one too many times.
I, also, don’t understand how one minute you have your chest puffed out talking like you’re Billy Badass who can kick all our asses and the next, you’re talking about having to carry a sidearm “for protection”.
And last: Who the fuck do you think you are talking to a fine woman, who was recently widowed, like you did? If you would have said those words to her in my presence, you would have gotten your very first ass kicking right there in front of G-d and everyone.
Be well, heeero.
June 15th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Dallass is all talk Ihave been listing to him run his mouth for a long time now .Plain and simple he has embellished his service . that has been proven he has nothing to offer but still spews threats . dont let his threats bother you the reason he said ne has never had is ass kicked is because he hides behind his keyboard. If your half the man you claim to be then tell us were your jumping next so we can come an see ya are you a man or a clown?
June 15th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Dallass are you still a racist? just wondering
June 15th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Yo Dickless, tell you what, I will send Jonn my contact information if you will too. Then we can make direct contact and set up a time and place to meet. I’m on sabbatical until February 2013 and have $25,000 left in my savings account so I can afford to travel to meet you anywhere. Of course you realize I’m going to post the meeting place information so anyone close can come and see you not show up. So, here it is right in front of everyone. Put up or shut up! A mere Marine shouldn’t be any problem for you, an assassin, to deal with. Sooo…prove yourself or admit you are a lying sack of shit.
June 15th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Hey DILDO I still not have heard from you about your flight orders! If we ever meet in person, you better not insult or talk down to or you will be looking up at me. Also, you will never get your weapons out.I am rated at 100% PTSD. If you are trying to claim PTSD makes voilent you are a liar. If you are homoical ,I want to know why you are not locked up for public safety.More lies on top of lies.
June 15th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Gee, guys, have you noticed how inconsistent Mr. Dickless Wonder’s story is?
First, he “claims he sky dived in Vietnam to amuse the orphans in 1969 dressed as a clown”.
In #167 (above) he says “I was there in 1970″.
I’m waiting to hear what he jumped out of…maybe “Puff the Magic Dragon”??? Anyone who was over there will tell you that planes were mortar magnets. I don’t think I’d be jumping out of a plane, never mind in a clown suit, to amuse anyone.
June 15th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Shoot, I clicked on ‘submit’ before I finished.
Sometimes I dance around the house in my underwear. That doesn’t mean I’m Madonna or Lady Gaga.
And just because you smell like an ape, it doesn’t mean you’re Tarzan.
June 16th, 2012 at 12:26 am
@196- Careful Yat, he’s a LARP assassin. I saw pictures of one of them once; name of Steve Jordan. If this guy’s assassin costume is anywhere near as legit as Jordan’s “Snake Eyes” ninja getup, (and judging by his Monty picture up top it just might be) you might have your work cut out for you.
Because we’re talking about an airsoft battle, right?
June 16th, 2012 at 3:34 am
News Flash ! Anything in the air was shot at. Especally slow moving Helos. So imagine a lone parachute floating down.
June 16th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Ok dingfeld, I’ve e-mailed my contact information to Jonn. Here, before God and country, I’m calling you out! Let me know when and where you want to meet. Anything other than your response to my challenge will show everyone what you truly are. As I mentioned before, don’t try any bluster or bullshit, here is a legitimate challenge for you to either put up or shut up. This will also go to my Facebook page so the whole world will know what you are. A worthless piece of shit with no honor.
June 16th, 2012 at 8:46 am
June 16th, 2012 at 9:08 am
My prediction: Wittgenfeld either (1) ignores/sidesteps the issue, or (2) tries to play the “100% combat disabled” card as an excuse to refuse. I just don’t think he’s got the balls to do anything else.
Frankly, I kinda hope I’m right. The jerk isn’t worth going to jail over, Yat Yas 1833. I think.
Since he skydives publicly for $$$, his “100% disability” is obviously not due to physical injuries. Therefore, the only way I can figure out Wittgenfeld qualifies for disability is if the disability is based on mental issues. (His comments here lend credence to that theory IMO.) Maybe the shock wave from some incoming in ‘Nam took out one or more of his 3 formerly working brain cells. Or maybe a case of syph he got from a hooker scrambled his eggs before he got effective antibiotic treatment. That’s what took out Capone.
Hell, if he was as much of a jackass as a youngster as he is today hiring a pro could be the only way Wittgenfeld’s ever gotten laid.
June 16th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Yat, Iam only 3hrs from Branson so I willbe there when windsock cliams he will jump. Ihave Marines friends that live in the area. I will hand them my bail money before I”Talk” to all mouth no HONOR windsock. AS I said before dallas if you talk down or disrespect service. You will be looking up to me! My apologies for my spelling and structure. This Bloater has ass on fire. For us “wingers” the Air Medal and Wings are the Silver Star and CIB or Car to grunts Brothers.
June 16th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Joe Williams: for what it’s worth, it appears Wittgenfeld’s Air Medal IS LEGIT. As are his ARCOM w/V and his Purple Hearts. All appear on his FOIA, and the orders for his Purple Hearts and Air Medal are posted on the “Scotty’s Hideaway” link in comment 63 above.
What’s in question is Wittgenfeld’s other claims. At times, he’s apparently claimed a Bronze Star for Valor and appears to have misrepresented his military record when he applied for membership in the Special Forces Association (he doesn’t qualify). He’s also made other ridiculous claims of things he did in ‘Nam, like “skydiving for the kids”. And although his records say he has a CIB, his records show he doesn’t seem to have qualified for the CIB under the Army Regulations in effect in 1969-1970.
IMO, he’s also one of the more disagreeable jackasses who have ever bothered to try and defend themselves at TAH. “Thunder the Clown” IMO describes him perfectly. He’s a clown seeking attention from the crowd.
His actual record in Vietnam appears honorable and something to be proud of, even without a CIB: service with D/75th Infantry as a RTO under very harsh conditions, an ARCOM for Valor, an Air Medal, and 2 Purple Hearts. Why he felt the need to embellish that is beyond me.
His service was honorable and commendable, and deserving of respect. But the man? Uh, no. IMO he’s an jackass and an assclown who deserves scorn, and has discredited his own otherwise commendable record.
June 16th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Now, now, guys. Joe, calm down.
Going to jail over this delusional my-horn-blower is mighty tempting, but frankly, I think my cat Mikey could take him out just by spraying him right in the face. Stinks worse than skunk musk.
If you go there, he actually could file charges against you, and he is NOT, I repeate NOT, worth it.
You’d do better to make sure that everyone at this affair knows that he’s a lying, stump-sucking jackass, and try to get him ostracized. Works wonders. I’m working on a “Liar, Liar, Pants On Fire” badge for people like him.
June 16th, 2012 at 10:20 am
This one might be more apropos for Wittgenfeld, Ex-PH2:
Or maybe this one:
After all, he’s acting like a horse’s ass and is a pain in the butt as well. (smile)
June 16th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Scotty: I need to talk to you offline about some docs on your blog (link in comment 63 above). Can’t seem to find contact info on your blog. How do I drop you a note?
June 16th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Hondo, THANKS!!!!! I did not know those existed. You made my day.
June 16th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Depends on where your honor is. Go to Popasmoke site and check HMM-362 history. A helo squadron is like a good tight grunt unit. Check the KIAs incidents for Cpl John Mooney KIA 010767. Not my last gunner flying for his Wings. Most helo squadrons allow most shop personnel to earn their Wings. We lost 32 KIAs, I knew 23 of personally. First Poe, now this Bloater who has to inflate his ego and put down any other service. Too Much. Yes, I will rip into him and expose in the worse way.I sense he is a bully and with me being the smallerperson(height and weight) he might do that is threatening.
June 16th, 2012 at 11:45 am
I still want to see his certs for the Air Medal. Bribe ,bully or buddy with the records clerk and anything can be entered in your records. I cannot see windsock putting himself in danger.
June 16th, 2012 at 11:53 am
You should be able to send a message now Hondo
https://plus.google.com/104786874651291635639/about/edit/d
June 16th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Still no joy, Scotty. Will try this evening from a different machine. If that doesn’t work, I may have to ask you to pass contact info thru Jonn.
June 16th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
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June 16th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Roger, Scotty. Will contact you shortly.
June 16th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Just out of curiosity – can anyone ID those things Wittgenfeld are wearing above his unit award ribbons on his right and below his personal ribbons on the left? They appear to be military badges of some sort, but I’m not able to ID them.
June 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
So I was turned onto this site by an unnamed source. Without going into what a douche nozzle Dallas is, I just want to say that it would be in your best interest to stay away from places you are not wanted. You pride yourself on your parachute jumps. AWESOME for you. I would never jump out of a perfectly good airplane. But, I see thousands of people skydiving all the time. You are another fucking clown in the mix. (Get it?? Clown.) I much love you show for our flag by wrapping yourself in it then dragging it all across the ground in your drop zone.
Dude, tell your stories to those who listen, but save them from people who know you are full of shit. Thanks for your service. I wasn’t around too much during Nam but did my tours in Iraq. While some call us hero, many of us do what we do for the love of our country. I see you did whatever so you could be called a hero.
Take the advice of a Law Enforcement Officer. Don’t go where you aren’t wanted. It always causes problems and people like you tend to find themselves in jail when they show their ass. Just to add, for your own peace of mind… The organizers of the Gala have every legal right to deny your entrance to their function. It is completely private and I am almost certain they would love for you to be standing outside with news camera all over you. You will be exposed a larger audience like Sgt Poe on America’s Got Talent. Saying you have the right to be there becuase they accept donations is like saying you have the right to walk into any Mcdonalds you want becuase they collect pennies for the Ronald House. Don’t be anymore of a douche than you have already been.
June 16th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Dalass sure gets quiet when someone calls him out . come one burp 41 take the man up show everyone that your not all just full of shit .Maybe you will get your 1st asskicking LOL. Time to man up clown boy
June 16th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
This has been bumping around in my head for a day or so, so here we go. This is for you, Wittgenfeld. (With apologies to Re Styles and the rest of “The Tubes”)
(Carnival barker talking at a small county fair miday)
Come on up folks! See the one, the only, the amazing “Thunder the Clown” – aka “Thunder Chicken”! Flies through the air like superman – and is sometimes even higher than his plane! Skydives here like he did in ‘Nam to entertain the little kids – though he doubtless used words for them that are not decidedly NOT PC, given what he’s said elsewhere. He’s a real ‘piece of work’ – see him for yourself! But it will cost you a dollar first!
It’s a Whopper
Step right up and don’t be shy -
‘Cause you will not believe your eyes!
He’s right here behind the glass,
But watch out, though,
He’s got no class!
You can look inside his made-up world.
He tells lies ‘till you think you’ll hurl!
He’s everything he dreams about . . .
Don’t buy his bull!
It’s a whopper!
It’s one of a million lies
(one of his million lies)
You ask does he lie?
Oh, how he lies!
He will wear anything he likes -
Surplus stores have the merchandise!
He will lie till your ears are sore
And when you leave, he’ll lie some more!
You can look inside his made-up world.
He tells lies ‘till you think you’ll hurl!
He’s everything he dreams about . . .
Just don’t buy his bull!
It’s a whopper!
Tells lies, lies, plenty more lies,
(some of his million lies)
You ask does he lie?
Oh, how he lies!
Don’t buy his bull!
(If you do, you’ll find out he’s hoodwinked you!)
It’s one of a million lies,
(one of his million lies)
Why does he lie?
Why does he lie?
Don’t buy his bull!
June 16th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Excellent work, Hondo, et al.
And you have now surpassed 220 whatsits on this post.
Kudos!!!
June 17th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Hondo those things he is wearing that you cant id are dallass girl scout badges for cooking and cleaning a embellishing
June 17th, 2012 at 7:59 am
(chuckling) Thanks, Kato811. Good one.
But seriously – I think they’re military badges of some type. And they’re not ones I see on his FOIA, so I’m curious as to whether they’re US military badges.
If so – and we can ID them – Wittgenfeld may have a bit of a problem. Because as I read Federal law, US military badges and tabs are also covered by the Stolen Valor Act along with medals.
June 17th, 2012 at 8:22 am
And this stray thought has been rattling around in my brain (with results not nearly as cute as Hondo’s!): Thunder Clown claims that the parachuting pic is of him and that it is recent. While that is not enough for us to believe it, wonder how the VA would classify this claim in regard to his “disability?”
OK – they would probably laugh at anyone posing that question to them. OTOH, it might also spur someone to take another look at his claims to them. Worth a shot?
June 17th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Thanks, OWB. That old Tubes tune popped into my head a couple of days ago when I was reading these comments and just seemed too, well, perfect for Wittgenfeld – with a few alterations in the lyrics, of course. (smile)
Regarding the VA: my guess is that we’d need someone to witness and record on video Wittgenfeld’s performance, then provide that plus an affidavit to the VA in order to be taken seriously. And if his “100% combat disability” is for mental issues, it might not make any difference even then.
On the other hand, if he has a VA rating based on “unemployability” vice physical/mental disability per se and he’s getting paid . . . .
I’d guess it’s worth a shot if someone here has the time and knows where he’ll be performing in the future – especially if they can also somehow document that Wittgenfeld was paid for his performance.
If anyone wants to do that and has the time/opportunity, please touch base with Jonn. I believe he knows who in the VA’s OIG to contact regarding such inquiries.
June 17th, 2012 at 9:43 am
I need infro from a Army C/C.Does being attached to a air company automatically put one on flight status? Another rather oblovious question why an RTO is assinged to aHelo outfit?in the short time he was In-Country, Windsock was in alot of units for short times? Always a grain of truth then Expand it.
June 17th, 2012 at 10:20 am
I found some of his photos as “Thunder Chicken the Parachuting (Ass)Clown”…hilarious…Dallas, you didn’t even need to dress up to fill that role, you Colonel Mustard looking fuckstick.
I agree with others here, you service was plenty honorable, you were decorated and above all…AIRBORNE!
Why the hell did you feel the need to embellish? And are you sure that wound that got you a PH wasn’t caused by your own guys?
June 17th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Joe Williams: see comment 162 above. A possibility I hadn’t considered before is that Wittgenfeld was detailed to provide comm support for a US element providing liaison to the Thai forces with II FFORCEV. (That is no way in hell advisor duty, Wittgenfeld – it’s liaison and support to friendly forces.) He was a RTO. Per comment 162 above, that kind of duty (liaison to Thai forces) often involved providing support for arty fire direction. Long range comm guys would have been involved in that.
I understand forward observers (FOs) and fire support officers (FSOs? not sure the term was used in Vietnam) often operated from helicopters during Vietnam. If that’s the case, Wittgenfeld may have gone with some of those FOs/FSOs to provide comm or to operate an airborne radio relay. I don’t think he’d have been put on flight status for that, but it would have made him eligible for an air medal under Army criteria for same (see below) if his performance of duty merited that level of recognition. Perhaps one of our older ‘Nam vets here could clarify whether FO/FSO/comm support personnel for same were routinely placed on flight status for such missions.
In any case, per Army criteria flight status is not required for award of the Air Medal – but you have to be more than a passenger. Per the Army awards reg, personnel not on flight status would be eligible for the Air Medal if their combat duties require them to fly regularly. A specific example given in the reg is “those directly involved in airborne command and control of combat operations.” Airborne comm support for arty fire direction would appear to qualify as exactly that.
A “cheapie” medal? Perhaps. But he has the orders, and may well have done exactly what I described above. His MOS and assignments are consistent with that scenario. Per the Army awards reg he’d be eligible if someone put him in for one. And Wittgenfeld’s Air Medal orders included a number of other individuals as well. I’d be more suspicious if they only included him.
I’d love to see this guy busted, and I don’t think he rates the CIB that somehow ended up in his records. But as much as I hate to say it, the bottom line is that his Air Medal looks to be legit.
June 17th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Hondo, FAC helos and fixed radios were hard wired in the ACs. The pilot or copilot were the ROs. In the helos the FACs used our radios.This is why I askewd for Army imput. If windsock told me the Sun rose in he East I would be out brfore Suntise with my compass.PS ,How do you removr this annoying red underline. Joe PSS, I flew CnC bird many times the Commander always used the helo’s radios.
June 17th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Joe, the red underlining means that the system thinks whatever you typed is misspelled.
I wasn’t artillery, but from what I can remember from training way back doctrine was the FOs/FSOs brought their own comm. That could have been Wittgenfeld’s role.
June 17th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Hondo,pm w/your pone # or ask Jonn or TSO for my e-mail or personal phone #.then I will call you back on my Dime. Thank you Joe
June 17th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
No PM capability here that I’m aware of.
One of the bennies of being able to post articles here at TAH (Jonn lets me do that, and I do occasionally) is that I can see the e-mail addresses people enter when they comment. If you entered yours, I’ll be able to see it.
I always ask first: do I have your OK to contact you at the e-mail address you listed with your comments?
June 18th, 2012 at 2:46 am
Hondo, my brother, a firefighter, joined the AF Reserves after his Marine Corps service. I’ve seen the zoomie uniform and everybody has an ‘MOS badge’ over the AF name tape. That’s what that thing reminds me of. They look kinda like basic jump wings and in the middle there’s a little MOS symbol. Like I said before, the Marine Corps has a very limited # of badges so I’m just guessing.
June 18th, 2012 at 5:03 am
Yat Yas 1833: thanks. Really hope someone can ID them. I thought the one below his personal ribbons on his left might be HALO, but I double-checked and the shape is wrong.
It would be poetic justice if it turns out the ass is wearing a US military badge he never earned and which doesn’t appear in his records (unlike his CIB, which is questionable as hell but does in fact appear in his official records). His getting burned for that would IMO be sweet.
June 19th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
While we are at it, I have a question for Mr. Whittgenfeld. You there, Mista Bad Ass….I’m curious as to why you never reported your reported “war crimes” to USA CID but, like your brethren in the anti-war crews, you run around here claiming you witnessed them. So what gives?
June 19th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
“Mister” Wittgenfeld — you admit “War Crimes” ??
You are beginning to sound as John FRAUD Kerry !!
June 19th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Oh, is it “wHit-gen-feld” ??
“WIT” does not FIT .
June 19th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
And I don’t give a WHIT .
June 19th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
I will have to come back to this. It looks all kinds of funny…
June 19th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Yat Yas, just so you know, not all AFSC’s have specialty badges in the USAF. No clue how many do these days, but it started out as only a very few then others wanted in on the act.
June 19th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
And no, I don’t recognize one in the pic.
June 19th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Damn…too bad mamma doesn’t let me pick fights anymore. Branson isn’t that far of a drive from Kansas City…of course he has 9 body guards, a gun, a knife, never had his ass whipped by anyone, a huge body count…
Okay, I fucking HATE guys like this. I don’t don’t know were to start with how fucked up you are. I look at your pictuer and just think who is this asshole? Then I read your posts. Holy shit, wow you are special! I can get the whole hey this is who I was and what I did, but for real? I was an Army Combat Engineer and I worked with Navy EOD, and I personally give anyone who ever sees me wearing an EOD badge full rights to kick me in the nuts. I know fuckall how the infantry works or how it worked, but really? You feel like you have to put on a blue cord and cib to feel special? You have to go around showing off your sparklys to everyone to justify your existence? I would love to do nothing more than mock you in a public place when you started telling one of your bullshit war stories. I have met more than my fair share of space shuttle door gunners and mocked them…but mamma doesn’t let me pick fights anymore.
June 20th, 2012 at 1:05 am
Wait a minute…I am kind of confused…
Now I am not going to go quoting the ar 670-1, but this is all jacked the fuck up. I don’t usually fuck with retired guys wearing the uniform, but why is he wearing an 82nd patch with a tan beret? That just don’t make no sense…now I could understand maybe if there were a tab or something, but no scroll no tab… I just always thought that airborne guys wore a maroon beret. I know, I know Tan LOOKS cooler, but that is kinda like wtf…really, I mean REALLY?
June 20th, 2012 at 1:16 am
Is he not limited to items he would have been able to wear during his time of service? Just asking. I don’t really see too many former servicemen who update to the most recent gear the armed forces is using. Just wondering.
June 20th, 2012 at 1:19 am
I guess he did work with the rangers…hmmm maybe I can go out and buy an EOD badge then…oooo even better a master divers badge! They were all dive certified!
June 20th, 2012 at 5:01 am
I wonder about you sometimes, JPJ….lol! I’m still waiting for asshat to explain why he hadn’t reported “war crimes” he supposedly witnessed to USACID. That is the only question I have for Mr. Wittgenfeld. Maybe John F. sKerry threatened to “swiftboat” er sKerryboat him if he said anything?
June 20th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
I just never got the whole thing of hey I need to put this, this, this, and this on my uniform and look way cool. I need to prove how much cooler I am than you to justify my service…
June 21st, 2012 at 6:31 pm
This guy rules…what an ass clown. Still want to ehar details on the weekend in Branson. Did “Ranger Dallas” get his ass whipped or what? Inquiring minds want to know…
June 22nd, 2012 at 8:48 pm
http://2facedchristianhaters.blogspot.com/2012/06/pownetwork-black-widow-of-shame.html?spref=fb
June 22nd, 2012 at 9:39 pm
The lyin’ thievin’ lardass beggnflee, links to a blog that is so fake that it doesn’t even allow commentary.
He is still a thief, claiming the copyrighted work of others as his, and a liar by accusing said copyrightee of stealing from the Lardass himself.
June 22nd, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Dallas your link just shows how big of a cunt bubble you truly are. I’m sure your mom wishes she had pushed the metal hanger inside just a little bit farther.
June 22nd, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Windsock, what about the “war crimes” you did not report? This is a Violation of Army orders and the USMCJ. Where are your orders assigning you as flight crew? Riding as a passenger on LZ inserts and exactions does not count toward a Air Medal.What is your jump date at Branson ?
June 23rd, 2012 at 8:15 am
Yep, ArmyJ was right in comment 180 above.
June 23rd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Hey Wingding! I’m still waiting. I’m willing to go to jail for a chance to pound your “real Ranger, Special Forces, Airborne, Super-trooper, All American hero” face into the pavement. I should be no threat to your ” ASSassin” self. I’m a one term Amtracer from the 1st Marine Division who did absolutely nothing. Sooo…why haven’t you responded, other than to post that stupid link? You realize your non-response only proves what everyone here has been saying about you. I’ve been posting your non-responses on my Facebook page. With hundreds of “friends”, who are ‘friends’ with hundreds of others, there are thousands of people who now know what a turd you are. What’s it like to be known as a full blown LIAR to thousands of people?
June 23rd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
http://www.valorwatch.org/Home/tabid/295/Default.aspx
June 23rd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Hey Dallass, you do you still dress up as Thunder Chicken the Parachuting Assclown when you’re not busy dressing up as a Ranger? Just curious.
June 23rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Hello Dallas, Have you missed me lately stupid one. You Blog of shame is sure getting popular. Tell me, How does it feel to have 40 years of embellishments exposed on your worthless lieing ass. And its not hard to tell that your butt hurt over not getting into the Military Gala. Sucks being you dumb ass . You & SEAL poser Arthur South and sex offender/Marine poser Tony Meyers must really think your something special. No worries. We are making you famous as the ass-clown posers that you are. The more you three run your mouths now. The bigger idiots you show the World you are. What a bunch of losers you three have turned out to be.
June 23rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Keep on posting useless links. Get enough of them up and you may have something to hide behind. Do you really think anyone here has any kind of sympathy for your lyin’, thievin’ fat ass?
Have they widened that turn lane on Langley Avenue onto Int’l Speedway Blvd, to acommodate your wide ass yet?
June 24th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
http://2facedchristianhaters.blogspot.com/2012/06/scott-hughes-pownetwork-proven-liars.html?spref=fb
June 24th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Hey, did you guys see me on national television today. Rand-McNally Travel Channel for the “most patriotic town” competition. Me and my town are finalists…. What were you jack-offs doing today…?
BTW.. just because some civilian in a non-profit educational organization (which is behind on IRS taxes paperwork) shows predigious toward a combat wounded 100% disabled Vietnam War Veteran of the elite Airborne Ranger doesn’t mean he is NOT going to be at their door, dumbasses.
I am a LRRP, no matter what you try to convince yourselves of. You guys are stupid. I am a professional media man. I will have you all and her eaten alive before the military gala dance hall doors even open. That’s what I do..
June 24th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Hey Scotty..? I was so happy to receive the news about your “unemployment” fiasco… Lost your job again after a “suspicious fire incident”, again. Are you an arson also…? Who knew..! Makes my portrail of you “valor vultures” more relevant to the overall scope of things. Yes I know where you are at and where you have worked.
See you later “carpenter boy”.. The very real-deal LRRP is coming to a town near you.
June 24th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
When did you attend Ranger school, Dallass?
You’re not a fucking Ranger. You will never be a Ranger. And I hope to fucking god someone knocks that tan beret off your empty fucking head!
June 24th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Hey shit-for-brains. My challenge still stands. Jonn has my contact information, call me so we can meet. I have the time and money to meet you where ever you want AND the money to bail myself out of jail. You do realize how bad this is making you look, right? This is a straight up ‘man-to-man’ challenge that you won’t respond to. Why not? A mere Amtracer shouldn’t pose any problem to an “airborne super-trouper Special Forces All American assassin hero” like you!
June 24th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Lardass Dullass says: “I am a professional media man.”
That fully explains his propensity for lying.
June 24th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Well, I see our favorite talking horse’s ass is back. Welcome back, Wittgenfeld.
Since you seem to lose track of things and keep bringing up irrelevant details and changing the subject, let me help get you back on track.
The issue never has been whether you were assigned to a LRRP unit, Wittgenfeld. And the issue isn’t and never has been about what anyone else did – so quit trying to bring up others as a smokescreen and a distraction. The real issues, Wittgenfeld, are and always have been your questionable claims and clownish, asinine behavior.
Since you seem to have a memory problem, let me restate the real questions here for your benefit, clown. They all concern you and you alone:
1. Where are the orders for your CIB? (You’ve never produced them.)
2. How did you convince someone to put a CIB in your records when your official records clearly show you never served as an Infantryman in Vietnam? (Your official records show that every duty position you held in Vietnam was as an O5B RTO.)
3. When did you ever serve as an advisor, on formal orders to perform advisory duty, to any RVN unit? (You’ve never produced any such orders, and such duty doesn’t appear in your official records. And providing liaison and/or comm support for the Thai Army DOES NOT COUNT.)
4. When and how did you ever obtain Ranger qualification? (You’ve sidestepped or ignored that question every time.)
5. Where are the orders showing assignment or attachment to an SF unit? (No such assignment is shown in your official records.)
6. Where did all those newspaper reporters get the idea that you had a Bronze Star for Valor? Were you the source of that baldfaced lie?
7. How does it feel to be arrested for flying a plane while intoxicated?
C’mon, dipstick – this discussion is about you and what you did or did not do. Man up for once and answer a few of those questions. Quit sidestepping the real issues here. And quit the clumsy, transparent attempts to deflect attention by bringing up irrelevant points. Everyone here sees through your pathetic attempts at a smokescreen.
June 24th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
@Hondo:
Dude, you are asking a lot. Dullass “Man up”? One must first possess a pair, and then must conduct himself as a “Man”. Neither of which is the case here. He lies, he steals, he hides behind others, and in general is anything but a “man”.
My day will come.
June 24th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Oh I get it he is way more important than the rest of us “regular guys”… Hahahahahaha, what a fucking loser ass joke. I wonder if he and Ric Duncan get off hanging out with the real media types. Arrogant cocksmoke, you pissed off a lot of guys at the Stolen Valor site on Facebook…
June 24th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Hondo, do not forget his orders for flight crew. No orders =no Air Medal.
June 25th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Joe: again, not universally the case in the Army – the Army reg allows for award of the Air Medal to non-flight-status personnel under certain conditions and gives the example of providing airborne C&C. Wittgenfeld may actually have met the regulatory conditions if he was detailed to provide airborne comm support for US/allied operations for a period of time. That would be consistent with his MOS and last duty assignment (to FFORCE-V) while in Vietnam.
I per your request above, I also sent you contact info via e-mail.
June 25th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Wha, Wha, Wha…! Let’s all go dancing at the big military gala in Branson, Mo upcoming..? Quit tr4ying to side track the facts that I am who I say I am and I am not responsible for anything anybody else besides me write in heresay. You people know all this. But continue to harass and dishonor me.
Soooooo, let’s go dancing and see what all the rest of the country thinks about you young Iraq & Afghan War Veteran “Band of Bastards”. Stop trying to distract “THE LRP41″… I am cuming to Branson, Mo. See you all there.
June 25th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Actually, Wittgenfeld, you are responsible for what reporters say about you two different ways.
First: if you were the source of any misinformation (e.g., if you lied to the reporter) about your decorations or qualifications – then you’re directly responsible for the misinformation. That’s a direct misrepresentation or misstatement of fact.
Second: papers get things wrong and publish corrections all the time. If you knew a reporter “got it wrong” and made no attempt to correct the record, you’re just as guilty as if you had lied directly to the reporter.
Now: quit sidestepping the issues with irrelevant smoke screens. Man up (if you know how), quit acting like a 6 year old boy, and answer the damn questions raised above.
June 25th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Douchenozzle troll is douchnozzle-y.
June 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Looks like yer right, NHSparky. And it also looks like ArmyJ was likely right in 180 above, too.
June 25th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Has this clown ever been privy to a psych eval?
June 25th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Hey Scotty..? I was so happy to receive the news about your “unemployment” fiasco… Lost your job again after a “suspicious fire incident”, again. Are you an arson also.
WTF are you talking about Dallas ? Are you trying to refer to the Sawmill I was working on in Mar. of 92 catching fire ? Newsflash dumb ass. The State Fire Marshall declared that an accident & no I didn’t lose my Job over it. In fact the owner of the mill rebuilt a double band mill from the insurance money & tripled his production. Now I know where you got this info & am wondering are you caught up in the same attempted extortion case that he is convicted of ? Yes that’s right dilly Dallas. I’m talking about another one of your poser buddies Navy SW poser Ray Hall. you see stupid one. I know who on f/b that I’ve told that story to & there has only been one.Now since you seem to know so much about my personal info. Tell me how many jobs I’ve had since that one & what do I do for a living now ? See if your buddy Ray Hall can find those answers for ya jack wagon.
Attached is Ray Hall’s Blog of Shame. The reason he knows of this is because he resides in the same county/state that I grew up in.
http://scotty-stolenvaloroffendersexposed.blogspot.com/2012/05/ray-william-hall-nsw-blog-of-shame.html
June 26th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
http://2facedchristianhaters.blogspot.com/2012/06/scott-hughes-fired-again-for.html?spref=fb
June 26th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Well, looks like we have another Anus Maximus sighting.
What’s the matter, Wittgenfeld – looking for documents that don’t exist? Thinking up new and novel stories, or trying to come up with new smokescreens? You should have figured out by now that the ones you’re using are lame as hell.
Quit changing the subject, Wittgenfeld. Man up and answer the questions posed above.
If you’re not too much of a coward, that is.
June 26th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Hey Scotty…. The reason you are blogging here is because you were shot-out of Face Book yet again. How many is that … 4,5,6,7,8,…?
BTW…. If you Band of Bastards can’t show a picture of me wearing a Bronze Star… You are fucked. If you valor vultures can’t hear an audio of me saying I have a Bronze Star… You are fucked again. See where you really are.?
June 26th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Wittgenfeld: we have published articles showing that claim. What’s in question is whether you were the source of that bogus information. I suspect you were. And I also notice you sidestep that question every time it’s asked.
That doesn’t surprise me. Clowns and fools rarely give a straight answer to a difficult question. They always try to change the subject.
June 26th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
He’ll never provide copies of anything asked for, he is not a man. A liar, thief, and ugly. Nothing manly about those traits.
June 26th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
I think he used to sprinkle Agent Orange on his corn flakes.
June 26th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
SkySoldier: maybe he spent too much time at altitude w/o an oxygen bottle. I understand hypoxia can cause serious brain damage.
June 26th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
@260: Really, Dallas? You’re going to eat all of us alive? Stop it!!! You’re scaring me!!!
I’m not, now, nor have I ever mentioned anything about your service record. The only things I have taken exception to are your jacked up class A uniform, your adolescent braggadocio about being called a hero, and your lack of class and integrity. I don’t give a shit about you calling yourself thunder lips the gay ass skydiving dealer of fluff, or whatever it is you call yourself these days, but you have no idea about who these commenters are at this site, so I would suggest that you leave your Billy Badass bragging out of any future posts, because some of these people have a whole helluva lot more time in combat than you did, yet they don’t brag about it or talk like some prepubescent school boy.
June 26th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
http://2facedchristianhaters.blogspot.com/2012/06/black-widow-takes-money-for-her-grand.html?spref=fb
June 26th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
His life is probably all fallen apart around him, no more shows, no more jumps, no more free meal tickets, he has been reduced to posting pointless links that no one will click on. In the words of Nelson “HA HA”
June 26th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
My question is this: Why is his flipping name typed like some 12-y/o girl texted it to her bff????
June 26th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
I looked and looked and cannot find an FAA approval for a heavy drop event anywhere near Branson MO. So his jump there is probably just another of his lies.
Dipshits who falsely claim ownership of photos of MC-6 chute jumps by Rangers n SF types are losers for sure; and then to claim that the true owner of said photo “stole it from him”, seals the deal on his loserness.
June 27th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
It doesn’t matter how many f/b accounts you & your poser buddies report dilly Dallas. Nothing is going to change the fact that you lied about your Military career for 40 years now.You really need to seek professional mental health old man. Your acting more & more like a spoiled little child with each passing day.
June 27th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Uh, ROS . . . maybe because he’s acting like a 13 y/o girl who’s jealous and has to tear others down to make herself look better?
June 27th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Name the date and time Dilly Windsock for Branson and we can discuss why you (an RTO) was in so many groups in such a short time. Good troops are kept in the same outfit.Will you produce the orders awarding your Air Medal?
June 28th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/post/supreme-court-strikes-down-stolen-valor-act/2012/06/28/gJQA11kC9V_blog.html
June 28th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
GAME OVER for the Valor Vultures
DALLAS WINS
June 28th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
So you admit you were lying all along? Well, awesome.
You can’t claim harrassment and continue to comment on the blog, you know that right?
June 28th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Maybe that was the unintended consequence of his gloating? He finally outed himself.
June 28th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Sounds like an admission of guilt to me.
June 28th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
@292:
Yea, Dallas the cheese dick wins! Let’s see what you’ve won; shall we? You’ve won the scorn and ridicule from your fellow Vets with your over the top hero bullshit and your self absorbed Billy Badass talk. You’ve won the right to wear your class A uniform all cocked up like some spastic ritard in JROTC (that’s something to be proud of, fucknuts) all while pissing on the honor of all those that don’t/didn’t wear their uniform looking like someone that was rode hard and put away wet after a 3 day bender at a fisting festival.
You have no honor and I wouldn’t walk across the street to piss on you if you were on fire.
June 28th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Actually, Wittgenfeld – your past false claims of a Bronze Star for Valor wouldn’t have been covered by the SVA in any case. The Constitution prohibits ex post facto laws. (Look it up if you don’t know what that means. But there may be big words involved, so you might need to have someone read it to you and explain it.)
Sheesh, I’d have thought that even an arrogant fool and tool such as yourself would know that. Apparently you’re more ignorant than I thought. Perhaps we should start calling you DullAss instead of Dallas.
However, I would still be careful about what military decorations I wore if I were you. The Stolen Valor Act was essentially 18 USC 704b, plus certain penalty enhancements in 18 USC 704d. Wearing unauthorized medals is covered in a different part of Federal law – 18 USC 704a. That part of Federal law predates the SVA by about 45 years and wasn’t part of the SVA. Today’s SCOTUS decision was narrowly crafted and appears to have only struck down the verbal claims prohibition of the SVA contained in 18 USC 704b. It didn’t address 18 USC 704a, which prohibits unauthorized wear of military decorations. That legal prohibition appears to remain in effect.
June 28th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
But Old Trooper, the real question is: if you were drinking a bottle of 151 rum an saw him on fire, would you come to his aide and try to put out the fire with said rum? Or would you save that rum for its intended purpose? (smile)
June 28th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
@289- Hondo, you do make a very valid point. I’m just going to sit here gloating that he’s finally outed himself as a lying sack of equine excrement, though.
June 28th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
ROS: he’s also earned a couple of new medals. See comment 208 above. (smile)
June 28th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
http://2facedchristianhaters.blogspot.com/2012/06/pownetwork-stolen-valor-act-overturned.html?spref=fb
June 28th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Hey let’s all go buy some Medals of Honor…. Big sale at Walmart tomorrow, I hear..
June 28th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
That would be nothing new for you Dickweed Wittgenfeld !
June 28th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
If you idiots don’t have a picture of me wearing a bronze star…. fuck you. If you dipshits don’t have an audio of me saying I have a bronze star… fuck you again…
There is the stark reality.. live with it.
I NOTICED: About a handfull of incorrect articles and another 150 correct articles… where are they in your count. 6 vs 150 correct is about right.. You all are fucked again. See how it really works.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Wittgenfeld: your comments above simply show that your head is jammed so far up your 4th point of contact that you have to unzip your trousers to speak clearly.
Then again, you’re also so clueless I don’t think you even realize that you’re defending those who lie about their military record. As well as tacitly admitting you’re guilty of doing the same.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Hey Wigetfield. I have two questions for you. What if WE DID have a photo and audio? What do you mean by? –> “You all are fucked again. See how it really works”.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
The last line in link Dallas provided to the crazed ravings of an obscure blog:
“No longer can they simply LIE to make their cases. FREE SPEECH is upheld.”
Anyone else find this hilarious? Dallas is reveling in SCOTUS telling us it’s ok to LIE about the medals we’ve earned, yet admonishes us for what he perceives as lying. The freedom of speech knife cuts both ways valor thieves. However, I’m sure the irony is lost on him.
June 28th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Well, Well, Ms. Mary the Black Widow Schantag,
Seems the Supreme Court just killed your “Stolen Valor Act” financial crutch for your non-profit educational mission. Reality is NOW I can wear a medal of honor to your big military gala this Veterans Day 2012 and you better NOT say shit. That’s how dead your mission is today.
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/28/stolen-valor-decision-victory-for-free-speech-or-defeat-for-military-honors/
Hey..? When you sending me my receipt and table assignment. Only one way I wouldn’t want the receipt from you miss hottie.
Take down my name from your non-relevant anymore list or live with the caustic results in real-time. I really am a good dancer. We would have a great time. You wouldn’t charge me next year. I always get in free the second time and once I won the talent contest on the Cruise Ship.
You haven’t asked me for my return mailing address yet. What’s up with that..?
Sincerely Yours In Patriotism,
Your LRRP Buddy, Dancing Dallas
V.A. Certified 100% Combat Disabled PTSD
June 28th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
@306 – Master Chief, can I just shoot him?
I just got back from the dentist, and I’m feeling cranky.
June 28th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
We can’t shoot him … that is illegal in most states. But we can continue to hunt him down.
June 28th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
@298: Hondo, in most states wasting perfectly good booze is considered alcohol abuse and I don’t abuse puppies or 151!!!!
June 28th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Hondo, I believe you may need a HUA medal for him as well.
June 28th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
OIF Vet: On this unfortunate day in USSC history, I will take a moment off from shrimpin’ to say…
Dallas is evidencing the delusional and tragic outcome of substance abuse quite common among servicemembers in his day. Those of us in here trying to reason with him, please have pity and remember that parts of his cerebral function are FUBAR now, and there is no going back. Helluva drugs. You can’t fix stupid, self-inflicted though it may be.
My old man admittedly abused psychotropic and other drugs before, during, and after his time in Vietnam. This failing of his was one of the things he would take back now in hindsight. He expressed his regret later, and raise me and my siblings to shun and abhor drugs and alcohol abuse.
However, his actions drove that point home louder than words ever could. Growing up, we knew that occasionally Pops would say/do shit that was just ‘not quite right’. Incontrovertible proof that the brain cells he zapped in the 60′s/70′s never grew back.
Fortunately, he eventually took pride in his humble service, inspired me to put my time in, and never once did he pin on flea market bling that others had earned.
Dallas sickens me, but I recognize the drug-addled ranting of a ‘Nam Vet who injested his doom one evening while looking for a high 45 years ago.
June 28th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
@304: We have a picture of you in a fucked up class A uniform, though, as well as you posing at the Wall, so you can kiss my beer drinking ass.
June 28th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
And the countdown to his claim that you stole his photo begins now, OT1.
June 28th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
I just did something that had never occurred to me. I made a copy of my DD-214 and a copy of the red ID card they gave me upon my separation from active duty, put them in an envelope, and stuck it in the shoulder bag I always carry. SCOTUS has given posers legal protection and I feel have spit on my father’s grave.
June 28th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
I have my boot camp dogtags on my keychain, because they are engraved with my blood type and religion.
June 28th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Dalass the decision by the SCOTUS dont change the fact that you are still a washed up worthless peice of shit that felt the need to embellish your military service, You have no Honor You threw it away when you put the Green Beret on and when you allowed news articles to be written claiming you were awarded the Bronze star. Twist it any way you want those facts are undisputable. you belong with your poser group you hang out with
June 28th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Poor DullAss. If it weren’t for negative attention, he’d get no attention at all.
Have fun shitting in your diapers and calling everyone “MOMMA” soon enough, DullAss.
June 28th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
I think I finally figured out what that wreath with a torch is, hanging below the doodads and dingle dangles. I’ve seen those on Star Trek geeks, the Trekkies, not the Trekkers. It looks like some kind of Romulan doodad.
June 29th, 2012 at 10:59 am
In regards to the comment on # 308. That was an e-mail that dickweed Dallas Wittgenfeld sent to Mary @ POWnetwork.org. She knows that I posted it here. I don’t want anyone to think that dickweed has copied my screen name and is trying to pretend He is me.
June 29th, 2012 at 11:17 am
@321: When did he send this to Mary? Must have been yesterday? Just shows his lack of honor and class. I hope the little pissant shows up at the gala and gets his ass handed to him by others.
June 29th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
@ 322, Yes it was yesterday.
June 30th, 2012 at 9:17 am
POOR SCCTTY…. Banned from Face Book forever…
Whaaaa, Whaaaaa, Whaaaaa, I continue to change the faces of “valor vultures”… You guys are really whining allot lately. Me and the Black Widow have a dancing date with destiny next Veterans’ Day weekend in Branson.
Soooo which one of you hidden profiles is the “Bedford Boy” Mark C. Seavey. He had a very exciting day or two at work in the American Legion Headquarters in Indianapolis. The National Commander and my Congressman got an earfull with more to come.
Who was that idiot checking with the F.A.A. about my jumps in Branson. Did they tell you all: Dallas doesn’t have to tell anybody anything till less than 24 hours… Got that…. Check again in November. Did you guys know I am a famous commercial rated pilot too.
June 30th, 2012 at 9:25 am
“Suddenly…. valor vultures have no relevency”… just the self imposed uniform police. What a sad legacy in American History. Live with it.
June 30th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Sure you are, Wittgenfeld. And I’m the freaking Emperor of China, too.
What’s your commercial pilot license’s number?
June 30th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Windsock, PLEASE show up I will be waiting and call you out in front of everyone. Joe
June 30th, 2012 at 11:15 am
I’m curious, Dallas, when will you be in Texas?
June 30th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Commercial pilot, huh? Of what? The Big Mouth Squadron? What’s he rated on?
June 30th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
http://truthaboutharassment.blogspot.com/2012/06/stolen-valor-hunters-crying-blues.html?spref=fb
June 30th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
He’s a badass, that Mark Sealy…………
June 30th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Mark Sealy sucks…I want to punch him the dick.
June 30th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Jonn, seriously, you wanna touch another mans dick?
Let me get in my weekly, FUCK YOU DILLYDALLAS comment too.
June 30th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
He didn’t say WHAT he wanted to punch him with, SS.
June 30th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Just pour a pot of really hot coffee in his lap.
June 30th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
@212 — Joe, I want to see his pilot’s license and his logbook.
June 30th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
lol @ 334 & 335
June 30th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Some of our un-esteemed posuers and fakes have received nicknames, such as Master Sergeant Soup Sandwich. For Wittgenfeld, I would suggest Wittgelding (or Wittgelded).
From Wikipedia:
“A gelding is a castrated horse or other equine such as a donkey or a mule. Castration, and the elimination of hormonally driven behavior associated with a stallion, allows a male horse to be calmer and better-behaved, making the animal quieter, gentler and potentially more suitable as an everyday working animal. As a verb, “gelding” or “to geld” refers to the castration procedure itself.”
That would certainly fit, given his jack-assery behavior and his lack of balls in responding to Hondo’s numerous challenges to Wittgelding to produce the paperwork that would substantiate Wittgelding’s bogus claims.
June 30th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
No, I suggest any nick for this guy have the word “wit” removed from it to match the man.
June 30th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
I’m almost gonna miss this shit on vacation.
July 1st, 2012 at 12:30 am
Send us some pictures.
July 1st, 2012 at 9:29 am
Guess where you idiot’s neo-Nazi QUOTE WENT: “This Ain’t Hell and all of our partners are the stocks and dunking chairs in the village square of the internet – a place where folks can come and throw rotten tomatoes at the valor thieves. The Supreme Court gave us a warrant to be the internet’s vigilantes and bounty hunters.” (sounds neo-nazi)
To prevent the now self confessed cyber-vigilantes from that very same neo-nazi mentality, Justice Anthony Kennedy, wrote the majority opinion, “Permitting the government to decree this speech to be a criminal offense, whether shouted from the rooftops or made in a barely audible whisper, would endorse government authority to compile a list of subjects about which false statements are punishable.” “Comparing the Stolen Valor Act to George Orwell’s novel ’1984′ about a futuristic totalitarian state,” Kennedy wrote, “Our constitutional tradition stands against the idea that we need Oceania’s Ministry of Truth.”
You dickheads are getting infamous in the national limelight.
July 1st, 2012 at 9:35 am
Dallas, you illiterate fuck, the Supreme Court is talking about the government, not about us private citizens. In fact the majority wrote;
The remedy for speech that is false is speech that is true. This is the ordinary course in a free society. The response to the unreasoned is the rational; to the uninformed, the enlightened; to the straight-out lie, the simple truth.
We aren’t affected by any Supreme Court decision – since what we do on this blog isn’t governed by the Constitution. The Constitution was written to protect the people from the government, not from each other. But I guess that we shouldn’t expect a peawit goofball like you to understand that, can we?
July 1st, 2012 at 10:07 am
@342: “You dickheads are getting infamous in the national limelight.”
Yeah, I’d rather be infamous than a total douchenozzle; douchenozzle.
July 1st, 2012 at 10:26 am
“Calmer and better-behaved”? Uh, don’t think that applies to Wittgenberg, Marine_7002. IMO, “more excitable and worse-behaved” is more like it. Or maybe “terminal asshattery”.
Perhaps Dallas “Legend in His Own Mind” Wittgenfeld is more appropriate. Or maybe simply Dallas “the Ass” Wittgenfeld.
I can think of several other plausible nicknames for this tool, but most deal with mental conditions or treatments for same. I’d prefer not to insult the mentally ill by comparing them to this ignorant jerk.
July 1st, 2012 at 10:28 am
Of course, Wittgenfeld – as has been pointed out here repeatedly, you can prove your point by merely posting a copy of your CIB orders.
If you have a legitimate copy of such orders, that is.
July 1st, 2012 at 10:31 am
I prefer “Wittgetfucked” myself. Just sayin’.
July 1st, 2012 at 10:36 am
Yeah, I don’t see the reasoning behind coming on a veteran forum and defending himself for his stolen valor by claiming the Supreme Court won’t allow the government to prosecute him. And trying to shame us into leaving him alone…as well as the rest of the fakes.
Ya know what else sounds like a neo-nazi tactic, Dallas? Bullying people into believing a lie. And the more you piss and moan about us and others, the more attention this post gets and the more people believe us rather than you. A wise man would shut up and walk away, but Googling wise+Wittegenfeld garners no results.
July 1st, 2012 at 10:42 am
@348: You got that shit right, Jonn!
July 1st, 2012 at 11:01 am
@345 Hondo: my bust, I wanted to imply that he NEEDS to be gelded. That would also have a side benefit, in that we’d never have to worry about him procreating and foisting any more Wittgeldings on this world.
#347 ROS: I like that better.
July 1st, 2012 at 11:04 am
Marine 7002, a pot of extremely hot coffee spilt in his lap will boil his nuts, and thus will prevent any possibility of his reproducing. AND you get to hear him howl.
July 1st, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Ex-PH2: won’t his asshattish personality accomplish the same effect (less the howling) without wasting a pot of perfectly good coffee? (smile)
July 1st, 2012 at 10:48 pm
DallASS, since you haven’t had the guts to respond to my multiple challenges, I’m going to make this very easy for you. I’m going to be in Branson in November. Unfortunately for you, I know what you look like, you don’t know what I do. You had better work on your ASSassin skills between now and then. As I’ve said before, I have the time and money to get there, beat your ass and bail myself out of jail. unlike you, I used my time in the Marine Corps to earn the GI Bill to get through college. Unfortunately for you, that means I can also afford an attorney. It also means I was able to restart my training in Tae Kwon Do. Like I said, start practicing…
July 1st, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Might I request video, Yat Yas? I’ll throw in a bottle of the Macallen 15-yr vintage if you make him cry.
July 1st, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Hondo, you are something else.
I keep forgetting he’s one of those guys who think this _____________ is six inches.
July 1st, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Yat, Branson is a very friendly to us Vets.If you get to him first, break his nose for way he has caused grief and insulted Mary S. .
July 1st, 2012 at 11:56 pm
@ 356, +1
July 2nd, 2012 at 12:01 am
PS. for pure pleasure break some ribs. For Dullass that means no jumping and saluting,no deep breaths,no laughting, no coughing or anything that moves the ribs. good for about 6 weeks of pain. The race is on Yat.
July 2nd, 2012 at 12:21 am
No. 343 Jonn Lilyea:
“. . . what we do on this blog isn’t governed by the Constitution.” —
Great Post !!
Some will be SHOCKED & STUNNED,
– that The Sovereign STATE was supposed to make the laws against common crimes, NOT, the national (“general”) gov’t. And,
– that the Subject Under Discussion concerning The American Constitution — is, The National Government’s very few proper powers (with a few disclaimers concerning The States) — NOT, The supreme Court’s excuse or cover to RULE EVERY SUBJECT MATTER UNDER THE SUN. In other words, the “federal” gov’t and The American Constitution, were never meant to be of supreme, daily, ubiquitous IMPORTANCE AND PRESENCE — the local governments were supposed to be much more apropos and attentive to most matters .
July 3rd, 2012 at 6:32 am
[...] idiot buddy, Dallas Wittgenfeld, thinks that somehow coming on a forum chocked full of veterans and telling us that the Supreme [...]
July 3rd, 2012 at 9:17 am
[...] I was wrong and Lilyea was right on that one. But I still felt Dallas Wittgenfeld should be left alone, largely because the discrepancies between his records and some things written about him weren’t [...]
July 5th, 2012 at 10:12 am
[...] Dallas “Flying Assclown” Wittgenfeld [...]
July 6th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
There is so much harassing and dishonoring here. Now threats to my life at a Branson military ball in the name of Mary Schantag…. I love it. Did you guys like the spread on the military times… outting your Mark C. Seavey as a valor vulture for the American legion… Orwellian they called you all. And why did the burnpit and American legion pages delete all my recent comments about Seavey and his dubious job with no relavents anymore. You punks are behind the curve so they say.
Now you guys know the Black Widow Mary has been getting her ass reamed by the IRS for not being skoosh for three years straight. Let’s BET on her even having a military gala… I have been shooting 100% soooo far… Ask Scotty. Ask Blowers, and now Seavey is feeling “the bite”…
Hey twia, quandoo doo… goood luck on that. I have never lost a fight ever… None of these truckles on here can say that. Besides, I will be surrounded by media and law enforcement.. Remember, been there done that before you punks ever heard of me.
July 6th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Hey you there, Wittgenfeld.
Word out on the street is you witnessed some real deal “war crimes” in RVN BUT, you were too much of a pussy to report them to chain of command and CID.
THAT puts you in the same league with one, Bill “Assassin” Perry. Now before you go batshit crazy, you scare me bad, sooo bad I’m quaking in my boots right now.
Bring it on, pretend warrior boy. I’ll be more than happy to ride your old, lying ass right in to the dirt. Bring your friends, all two of them….
July 6th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
This is in bold so you can read it. Waiting for your oh so special reply, nutbag
July 6th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
@363: The only dishonoring going on is when you show up dressed in your cocked up class A uniform. Why would you need to be surrounded by law enforcement, Dallas? You’re a bad ass assassin; remember? Because your 10 gallon mouth can’t back up your 5 ounce ass, perhaps? Plus; why would the media be there for you? You’re a legend in your own mind.
July 6th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
There is no threat on your life. I will spoil your perfect fight record. Be sure and have the media with you. You better have a license for that pistol with the law there.Windsock,where is all that big hot air talk? Knife pistol law and the media. No Mano-a-Mano from the big bad”trail killer You are so brave and bad talking to women and trash talking on the internet.A real Ranger,are you? Joe
July 6th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Wittgenfeld is not a Ranger. He’s an Airborne soldier who served as a RTO in a Ranger unit. He has no Ranger tab – along with no common sense, no honor, and no shame.
July 6th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
No. 363: “Now threats to my life . . .” –
WHICH life ??
REAL, or UNREAL ??
July 6th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
When I do a program somewhere like Branson..? I have already jumped at the Chateau on the Lake in Branson for the all combat wounded Veterans of the Purple Heart. The feds require me to have security & physical crowd control.
In the real world,like Branson,you guys woill be paying an admission to be in my audience. Can any of you weenies top that. I think I might make some big cash too.
How will that make you all feel watching.
Fear not cause I have my own Special Ops video crew and photographer. People will be singing the National Anthem and saluting as I land. Welcome to my world.
July 6th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
You’re a special kinda stupid, aintcha DullASS?
As for your affliction, might I suggest electroshock therapy? Start by grabbing a lower-voltage line; say, no more than 34.5 KV. Make sure that ground cable is at least 4/0 welding cable and attached nice and tight to your nuts before latching onto that power line.
Let us know how that goes. Maybe one of your asshoke buddies can send some pictures.
July 6th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
I’m fairly certain people were charged admission to your mother as well. We’re seeing the result of that, and it isn’t pretty.
I’m not sure I’d brag about it, broseph.
July 6th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Sparky, that’s much too complicated a procedure for someone who’s brain is obviously the consistency of partially melted ice cream. Just have him jump with a chute that’s actually a backpack full of lead weights. Much more simple.
July 7th, 2012 at 12:01 am
No. 370:
As I wrote — UN-real.
(La-La Land)
July 7th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
@363 Let me preface my comment that I am not threatening anyone with physical violence. I also am NOT advocating that a certain subject of this thread should have their military pension or disability payments stripped.
But regarding this statment in post 363, “Did you guys like the spread on the military times… outting your Mark C. Seavey as a valor vulture for the American legion… Orwellian they called you all.”
You insinuate that the Military Times published an article critical of the efforts of this blog and others like in their efforts to expose Stolen Valor frauds. You could not be more wrong in your insinuation.
THREE POINTS WHY YOU ARE WRONG
1. That piece in Military Times was an Op-Ed to the SCOTUS decision written by Doug Sterner. Sterner is a good friend to both Jonn & TSO. By your definition, the article of this “spread” is the most aggressive “Valor Vulture” on the planet. Far from the Military Times author being critical of this blog, if you actually followed this blog, you would see the author was standing shoulder-to-shoulder on the steps of the SCOTUS on the day of the ruling.
2. Mr. Sterner’s Op-Ed did not label TSO as a “Valor Vulture”, that came in a reader comment from a fellow named, “Purple Heart Parachutist”. I wonder who that could be?
3. Finally, you took Justice Kennedy’s “1984″ comparison completely out of context. Kennedy did not say the private citizens expsoing military impersonators were “Orwellian.” He said that would be the case if the GOVERNMENT tried to enforce truth vs. lies. Contrary to your argument, the SCOTUS decision declined to criminalize Stolen Valor statements, in favor of having those individuals public scorned in venues like this blog.
Next time you try to cite something in print to support your side of an argument, please stress context over content.
July 7th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
[...] DD214 and FOIA report, these claims are bogus – and IMO, so is Wittgenfeld’s current claim that he had no influence over what those reporters wrote about him in the past. The fact that [...]
July 7th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
AverageNCO: I’m afraid you made a huge error above. You’re making the baseline assumption Wittgenfeld has good enough reading comprehension skills to understand your point. Based on what I’ve seen from him here, I’m not sure Wittgenfeld has good enough skills with written English – either composition or comprehension – to follow or write anything much more complex than the “See Spot run” level.
July 7th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
This may have been touched on already, but I can’t beleive I actually saw such a true “american patriot” let the US Flag drag and scuff across the ground like he did. That was horrible.
July 8th, 2012 at 12:04 am
Dallas, the only reason you’d be required to provide your own security is to prevent a municipality from otherwise being liable when all the legit veterans beat the living shit out of you. You’ve clearly confused ‘special operations’ for ‘special needs.’
I almost wish MonsterQuest wasn’t defunct so those sensationalist gadflies can study your absurd chicanery before sticking you in a zoo like you deserve. The fence will keep you from getting your ass justifiably stomped, children can laugh and throw peanuts at you while you try to fling your feces, and you can spend the rest of your days being stared at so your pathological narcissism will be fulfilled.
Now shoo, you silly mentally ill boy!
July 8th, 2012 at 12:05 am
Dallas, the only reason you’d be required to provide your own security is to prevent a municipality from otherwise being liable when all the legit veterans beat the living shit out of you. You’ve clearly confused ‘special operations’ for ‘special needs.’
I almost wish MonsterQuest wasn’t defunct so those sensationalist gadflies can study your absurd chicanery before sticking you in a zoo like you deserve. The fence will keep you from getting your ass justifiably stomped, children can laugh and throw peanuts at you while you try to fling your feces, and you can spend the rest of your days being stared at so your pathological narcissism will be fulfilled.
Now shoo, you silly mentally ill boy!
July 8th, 2012 at 10:37 am
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=435042853185910&set=o.108485462524228&type=1&theater
July 8th, 2012 at 10:39 am
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=435042853185910&set=o.108485462524228&type=1&theater#!/photo.php?fbid=435042029852659&set=o.108485462524228&type=1&theater
July 8th, 2012 at 10:42 am
When all you can do is post self aggrandizing links…it’s tantamount to saying you surrender.
I’ve seen 13 year old girls do a better job at photoshop….and that’s the level of intellect inherent in such practices anyway.
July 8th, 2012 at 10:43 am
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=435042029852659&set=o.108485462524228&type=1&theater#!/photo.php?fbid=435021723188023&set=o.108485462524228&type=1&theater
July 8th, 2012 at 10:47 am
TANTAMOUNT …. to having a “hoot” on you all “Orwellians”
July 8th, 2012 at 10:49 am
This boy’s cheese done slid off his cracker…
July 8th, 2012 at 10:53 am
ANN, who the hell are you..? Are you a combat wounded veteran of the Special Operations community..? If not..? You need to shut your mouth in the boys room or I will jam your head in the toilet bowl too. Women “peanut gallery” is not allowed here. “You Shooooo… Stupid Bitch.”
July 8th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Aww…how cute. He’s a chauvinistic throwback as well as an intellectual child. Threatening women? Classy…even for a douche.
July 8th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Wittgenfeld: You’re nothing but a pathetic old fool. Ann has as much right to post here as anyone else, dipstick. Something called “free speech”. Perhaps you’ve heard of it?
All a Purple Heart says is that you were in the wrong place at the wrong time. You can literally get one while in the latrine or while walking out of the chow hall. Both of those actually happened to people in units I supported in 2007.
All you are doing here is showing your ass to the world. Please cover it – it’s ugly, and offends damn near everyone.
July 8th, 2012 at 11:10 am
CI: It’s almost as classy as hitting on/harassing women who are recently widowed. He’s done that, too.
I’m waiting for someone to push the right button to make him go racist on us. He seems to have a history in that respect (see last link in article).
July 8th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Um, “Orwellian” is an adjective not a noun, you illiterate fuck.
July 8th, 2012 at 11:22 am
@Hondo – He’s about a breath away from be indictable for conveying a threat by electronic means.
July 8th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Hondo, what do you expect from a CHICKEN-SH1T, LIAR? Mr. Lilyea has my contact information and I have yet to hear a single word from this coward. I have also posted many straight up challenges to this yellow cur dog and all he does is ignore me.
This was fun but now it’s just getting old. I’m sure his behavior now is exactly the same as when he was a child. I’ll bet money he stayed in his yard all the time because he knew if he went into the street with the ‘big boys’, he’d get his ass beat. So he stayed in his yard running his mouth proving to everyone what a chicken sh1t he was and is. I mean look at what he’s sunk to. Posting dumb azz sh1t on Facebook?! Threatening women? (I’ll put $5 on Ann!) Not supplying proof of his awards and casting childish insults. Naw, rather than be angry or upset at him, now all I feel is pity. What a living hell his existence must be. Knowing your life is a lie and knowing people know it is? That must really suck.
July 8th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Well, Hondo, he could always be called a worthless poser bitch by an Indian chick if we want to see that.
So, Dallass, you’re a worthless, pussified poser bitch not fit to suck the mud off the boots of REAL Rangers (those who live by the Ranger Creed, unlike you), nor are you even worthy of wiping the Blessed Mary’s ass. I highly recommend you take a triple dose of go-fuck-yourself and forget to pull the cord when next you jump.
I’ll be the red and white chick celebrating when you hit the ground.
July 8th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Yeah, Dallas, for your little misogynist tirade against Ann, you are being moderated. That means none of your comments will make it to the front page without our approval. Now you can file a lawsuit against us for infringing on your “1st Amendment Rights” because the Supreme Court can do nothing to us for that either. The Supreme Court protects the people from the government, not from each other.
Orwell’s book “1984″ warned about an overarching government, not about public humiliation of criminals, that’s why the Supreme Court struck down the Stolen Valor Act, because it was government restricting what the USSC considered “free speech”, that’s why they called it “Orwellian”, because it seemed to be like the governments in Orwell’s books “1984″ and “The Animal Farm”.
These discussions about you would have died a long time ago if you hadn’t engaged in your jackassery and proved to the world that you’re an illiterate drooling moron. Your grade school playground bullying won’t win you any friends, nor bring anyone to your cause. It only raises more doubts about your veracity. Harassing me and my friends won’t accomplish anything.
I know that it frustrates you that you’ve finally found three people whose internet discussion of you can’t be shut down by your whining and fit-throwing. The truth is that even if you did get us shut down (which, by the way, can’t be done) the cached copies would remain on the internet long after you and I are gone from this world. So take your medicine like a man for the first time in your life.
July 8th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Sooo, not only is he a proven Liar and a Thief, he is also Stone Age Stupid. To come on here as slightly lower than a Troll, and proceed to tell commenters that they ” need to shut your mouth in the boys room”, is so asinine as to be laughable. Dullass might see this as “the boys room”, but we know that “boys” don’t even stop by here, except for the occasional poser trying his best to learn how to troll.
Still the dirtiest douche in town.
July 8th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
@370: Um, you are saying that people pay to just come and see you jump? A solo program that lasts all of 5 minutes? Yeah, I don’t think so. You are probably slotted to be one of many attractions at events. I doubt you could hold court by yourself, because you ain’t that special. Well, you ARE a legend in your own mind.
I really like the tough talk you put out there against Ann, too. You had better stick to making veiled threats against old farts like me, because I think Ann could probably kick your ass 10 ways from Sunday without breaking a sweat; heeeeero LRRP Assassin.
July 8th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
CI: communicating a threat by electronic means? Hmmmm. Wonder if a MO judge might be persuaded to review what Wittgenfeld’s posted here and elsewhere and thereafter issue an injunction against him interacting with the public at Branson? After all, he’s at least arguably threatened to bring deadly weapons to a public gathering and do bodily harm to some of the prospective attendees.
Given how much Wittgenfeld loves the limelight and telling his tales, that just might hit him where it hurts. He’s apparently immune to logic, shame, or reason. But he does love attention!
Enjoy thinking about that possibility, Wittgenfeld. (smile)
July 8th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Still a flying assclown, Dallas.
I see you only dare to run your suck like a “tough guy” to a woman, you fucking coward. You are a disgrace to veterans, to “Rangers” and to the Airborne in general.
Mark my words, you piece of shit… the day WILL come when someone calls you out in public for your douchebagery.
Until then, enjoy being a punk ass bitch keyboard commando.
July 8th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
@Hondo – Missouri Revised Statutes, Chapter 565
Offenses Against the Person. 565.090. 1. A person commits the crime of harassment if he or she:
(3) Knowingly frightens, intimidates, or causes emotional distress to another person by anonymously making a telephone call or any electronic communication;
2. Harassment is a class A misdemeanor unless:
(1) Committed by a person twenty-one years of age or older against a person seventeen years of age or younger; or
(2) The person has previously pleaded guilty to or been found guilty of a violation of this section, or of any offense committed in violation of any county or municipal ordinance in any state, any state law, any federal law, or any military law which, if committed in this state, would be chargeable or indictable as a violation of any offense listed in this subsection.
In such cases, harassment shall be a class D felony.
Many criminal records are searchable online….what’s his state of residence?
July 8th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
I almost wish I’d been by earlier to see more of Wittgenfeld’s batshit insane photoshop wizardry. He’s most definitely a certifiable narcissist, and has to be mentally ill to boot. Quite the classy old bigot.
Dallas, whatever I’ve done is irrelevant since I’ve never once lied about my very mundane service. There are plenty of no kidding combat veterans here, and they tellingly never feel the need to go on pompous tirades about it. Any fear I might have had from your threats goes out the window when I see those tubby skydiving photos of you. I could out stroll your enraged waddling.
You’re not the only one who can post ridiculous photoshops:
- http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/21291000/ngbbs4c12ab120a7f4.jpg
- http://winningateverything.com/files/2011/07/wa_overcompensating.jpg
- http://www.lolwtfcomics.com/upload/uploads/1320336388.jpg
July 8th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
CI: best I can tell he’s a Florida resident, most likely in the general vic of Lakeland. Let me know if his arrest for operating an aircraft while intoxicated (perhaps listed as “in an unsafe and reckless manner”, or something similar) shows up.
July 8th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Hondo, I’m curious to know how they managed to detain him for that.
July 8th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Ann – follow the link in comment 63 above. The article documenting it is near the end of the page (it’s a pretty long page).
July 8th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
That both hilarious and frightening. Another example of how Wittgenfeld only cares about himself.
July 8th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
FYI- If he is in the Lakeland area, that means Polk County and Sheriff Grady Judd. Sheriff Judd is kind of well known for pursuing charges against people who commit crimes over the internet.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article1149570.ece
July 8th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Oh, Dullass. Ya dun fucked up now.
July 8th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Peggy – oops, my bad. Should have said DeLand/Orange City area, not Lakeland. That’s Volusia County. I was working from memory, and I should know better than that by now.
And if you have a problem with me posting that, Wittgenfeld, I’d advise you take it up with the government of Orange City, FL. Or did you forget that city council meeting minutes are public record – and that if you speak up and give your address at such a meeting, that information gets entered into the minutes of the meeting? Or if you are interviewed by, say, a reporter from the Daytona Beach News Journal and tell the reporter what city you live in, the reporter just might include that info in his or her story?
July 8th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
And Dullass…before you go looking up the number for the FBI or the “Internet cops” using your pathetically sad Google-fu to have me or anyone else arrested or sued, consider that nobody here has actually threatened you. All anyone has done is provide some colorful suggestions for you to undertake, and if you do, so much the better.
But as far as you go, dipshit, under the phrase “waste of ammo” is your picture. Food for thought.
July 8th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Agreed, the only one who has made threats is you Dallas.
July 8th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Too bad on the county part. It would have been interesting to see him go up against a Sheriff who makes the inmates either buy their underwear or go commando.
July 8th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Wigetfield says, “Nowhere in this summary does it mention that while you Iraq & Afghan war punks are impuning me…” he refers to women as “bitches”, and openly and publicaly threatens people.
These statements without any doubt, proves he is a complete class “A” jackass. It is recommended therefore, that he be awarded an old and soiled toilet seat to wear around his neck.
He still has not addressed me directly!
July 8th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
MCPO, typical attitude of professional creepers who scare off every woman in a five mile radius.
July 8th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Dullass does live in Orange City Florida, just south of Deland, where “Skydive Deland” is based at the Deland airpark. He claims to be a jumper out there, but he has made other claims… Who knows but what he might even be photoshopping the jump pictures, putting his face on someone elses photos; I mean, he has established himself as a liar and a thief who steals the claims of other photographers…… Just sayin’.
Has anyone like, actually seen him jump?
July 9th, 2012 at 3:22 am
@ 399 JP. I’ve posted a number of direct notices for him to contact me so we can meet. He hasn’t responded to ANY of my posts. Not a single one. All he can do is threaten women. I’ll put money on Ann!? He’s nothing but GUTLESS COWARD and LIAR. He has no honor. He’s a disgrace to the United States Army and a disgrace to the Non-Commissioned Officer’s Corps.
I mentioned in a different thread that rather than be angry or upset with him, I PITY him. His life is a lie. He knows it and he knows WE know it and everyone who comes here to reads these threads knows it. I will concede he’s probably so mental that he doesn’t even recognize reality any more. What must it be like to live your life knowing EVERYONE now knows exactly what type of person you are.
What does cause me to get angry is his disrespect for veterans who have served honorably, something he knows nothing about, and never lied about their service. I served the most boring single three year tour in the history of the Marine Corps but the thought of embellishing my service never
crossed my mind. I guess that’s the difference between a man and a dullASS.
July 10th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
http://truthaboutharassment.blogspot.com/2012/07/stolen-valor-faces-of-valor-vultures.html?spref=fb
July 10th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
In order to avoid retyping this:
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=30659&cpage=2#comment-644027
July 10th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Wow Dallas, the best you can offer is a photoshop that a five year old could outdo? Not surprising from someone who harasses widows, and denigrates those who served honorably and never felt the inclination to lie about what they did. I’m sure you kick puppies, and steal candy from children.
July 11th, 2012 at 7:35 am
http://newsblaze.com/photo/20100514/military1_jpg
Hard for you idiots to top this. Here I am on Camp Atterbury Drop Zone in Indiana raising money and public awareness for the returning Iraq & Afghan War Veterans of my former 151st INFANTRY Airborne Ranger unit
July 11th, 2012 at 8:25 am
http://www.bransoncourier.com/issue-68/Purple_Heart_Hand_Honor-1182.html
July 11th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Oh..! LooK…? Dallas on the front page of the Branson newspaper. Wait till they hear what I have to say about their community Veterans Group POWnetwork Military Gala.
It will be VERY interesting… Orwellians….
July 11th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Old photo, Dallass. And that is the last reply I will ever give you, Flying Assclown. I advise others to ignore your blathering and let you fade into oblivion.
And by the way, you look ridiculous in those Class A’s,fatty. As a “Ranger” why don’t you have some pride and discipline… drop a few dozen pounds.
July 12th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
I have a question for Mr. LRRP Assassin: If I show up dressed identical to you and stand next to you; would you mind? Would it be cool with you if I did so while standing right next to you? I can pull my old class As out of the closet and put an 82nd patch on them and I know I could get a Ranger scroll to put on my right shoulder and pick up a Ranger beret complete with Flash and all the other stuff and then you and I can strut our stuff together. Whaddya say, Dallas? You up for it?
July 12th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Im sure the people of Branson will be more intrested in what POW NETWORK has to say about you than what you have to say about them. Funny how the people who cry about the POW NETWORK the loudest all have profiles there!
July 12th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
The Blog thunderdunce keeps linking to is run by another clown by the name of Arthur South. Arthur was a 6 year reservist in the Navy as an E-2 Cooks apprentice. He also has a place on POW Network as well for his phony claims of being a super secret squirrel Navy Seal among other things.
Archslayer Warrior of God…. How is that failure of a Cult DevTek working out for you Artie? How is Tony Meyers the Marine wannabe who never made it through boot camp but claims to have been wounded in Vietnam and flown one of the Helicopters to evacuate the embassy…. great and respectable friends you have there Dullass.
July 12th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
I’ll have you all know that Dallas’ service to me and the rebellion was invaluable during the Endor Campaign. His experience in the jungles of Vietnam and interaction with the indigenous Vietnamese and Laotians paid big dividends when it came to KLEs with the Ewok Cheiftains and Shamans. I would give a Corellian freighter full of spice for a team of men like Dallas, South, and Meyers.
July 12th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Yeah, I’m going to have to ask for your Endorian Rebellion Participation Certificate as proof, Admiral. I’m calling shenanigans as eeeeveryone knows that Ewok shamans do not seek counsel with foreigners, especially not those as vertically challenged as they.
July 12th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Well you see, my certificate was on the medical frigate that was destroyed when the Death Star turned out to be operational. I am sure you understand.
July 12th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Next you’ll tell me Han shot first. Whatevs, I’m calling bs.
July 12th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
he did! Han was a known racist, hated Greedo because he green and an illegal alien on Tatooine without a work permit!
July 12th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Well, Greedo DID need killing. Little green bastard was a creep.
July 12th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
maybe so but it was such a pain to listen to Han defend himself, “I’m not a racist, some of my best friends are wookies…”
July 12th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
It was true. Han wasn’t at all bigoted. I mean, hell, Luke was gay and Han even roleplayed with him.
July 12th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Luke wasn’t gay, he was just utterly confused after his foray into incest with his sister, and finding out daddy was James Earl Jones? I mean come on, that guy even through his own grandma under the bus as a a Racist who taught him to hate on black and white folk…. Think that would not mess you up??
July 12th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Well it was tough on the kid, you find out your dad is the most evil guy in the galaxy, the only woman you’ve ever kissed is your sister, and your weapon of choice is a photon charged phallus, coming out is going to be difficult to say the least
July 12th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Oh, they seemed to do fine on that. I mean, c’mon, who’s NOT going to know when you’re dressed up in shiny white polyurethane and breathing heavy??
July 14th, 2012 at 6:32 am
ROS, I’m sure our Dearest Dullas was the guy who did the Wilhelm. I’m sure the reason he fell was due to spending all his time walking around staring a mirror instead of paying attention to the giant bottomless chasm with no safety rails.
July 14th, 2012 at 9:34 am
I’m certain, Ann, that he’ll be posting a link to an article about it soon.
July 15th, 2012 at 11:52 am
http://truthaboutharassment.blogspot.com/2012/07/dishonoring-veterans-conspiracy-of.html?spref=fb
July 15th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
@439. You still hanging around poser?
July 15th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Oh, you’re definitely a WASP, Wittgetfucked- a White Anglo-Saxon Poser.
Bless your little heart.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Look, you guys got it all wrong. Dullass has had a very long, illustrious military career.
Here’s proof I found while doing some research:
http://tinypic.com/r/1550v3o/6
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:18 am
-1′
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:30 am
Hey I like that Confederate picture of me… You gave my hair back to me. my friends all have a hoot when I post your shit on my walls. The one with chickenshit Mr. T got the biggest hoot… Mr. T is afraid to fly or parachute… that was good.
I have noticed: The head of this “Band of Bastards” aka John Lilyea has disappeared. Hmmmm..?
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:34 am
http://truthaboutharassment.blogspot.com/2012/08/facebook-crackdown-harassers-beware.html?spref=fb
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
Witlessgel-ding: check the “by-line” on the articles posted today – if you can read and comprehend standard English, that is. Jonn posted an article this morning. He hasn’t “disappeared”.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:43 am
Well Good. I didn’t want him croaking yet…
http://truthaboutharassment.blogspot.com/2012/07/dallas-wittgenfeld-revealing-harassers.html
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
So, Witlessgel-ding – told any more lies to reporters recently about your past military career? Made any new claims of BSM w/V device? Or of being SF?
Been arrested for flying while under the influence lately?
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
A poser hunting “posers”? The flying assclown just went full retard.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:54 am
Oh, and just how many firefights did you personally participate in between 18 and 26 October 1969?
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 am
Redacted1775: he went there years ago; he’s been there ever since.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
I see the narcissist had to get back on his thread page and start posting shit, again, because no one was talking about him, and he needs the attention. I say we just let the little narcissist talk and don’t reply to him. That way, maybe he will just go away, or suck start a shotgun and we won’t have to see or hear from him again.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:02 am
You guys STOP THAT NOW….. those few incorrect articles without writers names are 38 years old. A hundred other correct articles are never mentioned by you idiots… what’s up with that…? Everybody knows what gets printed isn’t always the way it is exactly. Right..? Now get a life… Go find a picture of me wearing a Bronze Star. My Special Forces Association Green Beret with S.F.A. Decader Crest and membership was given to me by the S.F.A. “Man of the Year” free to me… Got that..?
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
We should be so lucky, OT.
Maybe he’ll just down a fifth of Jack and try to go flying again. Unfortunately, guys like him are the types who get behind the wheel, wipe out a family of six, and walk away from the wreckage.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:13 am
Wittgenpussy, are you ever going to man up and respond to me??? Oh…wait, you’re not a man, are you? One more time, let me know when and where so we can meet. I’m ready to take an ass beating from an airborne ranger, trail assassin, all american hero, it’s not capitalized because when referring to you, it’s all a lie. C’mon dullASS, prove you’re not a liar and coward.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:15 am
I spent the last too long reading this string inasmuch as I was on hiatus throughout its creation. I must say that of the thousands of comments in the hundreds of strings that I read as a regular here, this piece of work managed to turn my stomach the most, hands down. Whatever his military bona fides, he is the most loathesome, repugnant, and vile of creatures. His comments and his behavior are flat-out sickening and I, for one, do not extend a scintilla of gratitude for whatever legitimate service he may have provided. What was once honorable can be rendered worthless and he, in my view, has done exactly that and more. Screw him.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:06 am
AirCav, don’t be so hard on wittlessfelt. I have it figured out! He was drunk, which he has shown a proclivity for, when he jumped, in his flying ass clown suit, to entertain Vietnamese orphans, in the middle of a combat zone. He did a PLF on his head and knocked himself retarded! He’s been suffering from that condition ever since.
August 6th, 2012 at 9:04 am
WoW… you punks are “spinning some yarn”, today aren’t you…? Wha … Wha…Wha….!
I been noticing you wussies been ditching some of my more sensitive posts on here… good …. Now I know where your sore-spot is.. Get ready for the burn-boys….
Who is going to apologize to me first when I get my 11F-2P Airborne Rangers’ Infantry orders in hand… coming soon…
You guys get in line… I figure there are around a hundred of you fucking weenies that owe me a good sucking.
Don’t you guys want to know what really happened that night when I seen a dozen cops all sitting around drinking coffee eating donuts under a street light..? They met Thunder Chicken at midnight… and I became famous… Then the Judge with-held adjudication… They never do that… Except for me.
See how stupid you people are…
August 6th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Of course these days I just parachute onto the bar’s lawn and get a drink… easy money for a real deal like me… I dare say: “None of you fucksticks are qualified to do the same”..
August 6th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ, DullASS–you LOST. Get over it.
Or might I suggest skydiving with a rock instead of a parachute?
August 6th, 2012 at 9:15 am
“Who is going to apologize to me first when I get my 11F-2P Airborne Rangers’ Infantry orders in hand… coming soon… ”
No one, you’re still an asshole and a fraud.
August 6th, 2012 at 9:15 am
What will you all do when Dallas and Michael Yon turn up at the big PoWnetwork military gala all dressed up and ready to dance with Mary..?
Mi Lae
August 6th, 2012 at 9:18 am
I figure you’d show up ready to dance with each other.
August 6th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Redacted–I love how he’s “coming up with them” but after how many MONTHS, still can’t produce them?
Fuck, you think he’d just photoshop something and be done with it.
August 6th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Nichevo–I was thinking they’ll take turns playing “Thai Ladyboy” with each other.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:45 am
I will have hot babes with e…. Stupid Fucks. I am the “Ladies Man”… didn’t you figure that out as you were reading the over a hundred newspaper articles about me…. The girls love the new KID in town… Thunder Chicken gets all the pussy he wants. you don’t… By the way..? Did you all see my “Branson Drop Zone” online…. look around you will find it and then you will shit your pants. The Black Widow Mary will too. THE LRRP COMETH….!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:40 am
@ 466 … Yo LoNgRaNgEPeNiS13 …
Show up all dressed in your military costume and there might be someone like me to call you out, in public (with vigor), and depending on the jurisdiction you may very well end up in hand cuffs. Particularly considering the threatening tone of your emails. But you would not know about such law enforcement and secuirty related matters, because you are not in to law enforcment and/or security industry. You have choosen the entertainment industry as your career path. More specifically the circus industry as you are a CLASS “A” CLOWN.
So now on to your so called “Ladies Man” exploits with women.
I have been around long enough to know the person who talks about all the tail they are getting … well … probably really means getting very little (or none). Plus you are no spring chicken … not that handsome (that was a generous) and your prostate is probably as large as a football. It is not like you can call little Jimmy to action in a snap! So considering the aforementioned, I might suggest that your ACTUAL PUSSY GAIN QUOTIENT is .037. And that .037 does give you credit for THUNDERING down on your own CHICKEN (wink … wink … if you know what I mean).
August 9th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 9:40 am
See above!
August 9th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Perhaps Mr. Gettfucked has already succumbed to Yawnitis.
Sweetie, if a “hot babe” asks YOU to bend over, it isn’t really a chick.
August 9th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
I don’t think anyone has to worry about seeing any offspring belonging to WiTtLeSsGeLdInG, folks. His “winning personality” is a bigger turn-off than anything else I’ve ever seen, heard of, or imagined. Even starving crackhead hookers cross the street and look the other way when he comes towards them flashing a roll of bills. There’s no chance that any lady of better quality would procreate with him.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
I’m still waiting on the 11F-2P MOS to show up on either your dd-214 or FOIA dilly Dallas. Check with the 151st. They might have a copy of your orders … NOT !!!
Thank you & welcome home 05B20 RTO Dallas Wittgenfeld, The wanna be Grunt.
copy, This 0311 Marine Grunt OUT !
August 15th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
471 posts here hah…? That makes me the most famous personality on this POS Mil/Kook blog.. thank you fellows… It makes better for the eventual media story…
August 15th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Um…No. Gunny Driveway has you beat by a country mile.
August 15th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
That makes him 3 times a loser. Has to be some kind of record, surely.
August 15th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
LoNg RaNgE PaTrOL 41 is a loser and a turd.
August 15th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Yep Dallass You really have to be proud to have a post on a poser embellisher web site that has run this long.Just goes to show your stupidity one more time. Must hurt to be as dumb as you are.
August 16th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
@ Widgetfield … Sorry … not even close … Gunny Driveway is much more popular than you. You are a close second place looser.
471 posts here hah…? That makes me the most famous personality on this POS Mil/Kook blog.. thank you fellows… It makes better for the eventual media story…
August 25th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Soooo, Hey Lilyea..? When the West Virginia State Police call you on that phone number….. Who will they be discussing your charges with..? Your wife. Your boyfriend. Maybe give me the right number… You too Scotty, we will have a conference call. It is possible for me to serve you all the paperwork myself. Personally. That’s how I like it…
I told you all before…. You and this blog, Scotty’ blog, and the American Legion blog are on report at the highest level of the Veterans’ Administration in Florida. P.T.S.D. Clinical Chief M.D. knows me and you all by first name basis. It is their recommendation to procecute you all. They have the clinical proof of what you people have done for sport. Especially with so many witnesses.
Consider yourselves “ON NOTICE”
August 25th, 2012 at 7:58 am
LOL. I imagine you’ve seen the “Jonn’s out of town, so I’ll be posting in his stead…” thread by Stu on the front page, so you’ve decided for a little tough talk.
Nice.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Hey, Campbell, You wrote that you contacted my 151st Airborne Ranger (LRRP) unit historian and P.A.O…? Why didn’t you tell the rest of these “Valor Vultures” what she told you. I have a communique from her about you. Oh… Oh….! Are you in deep shit.
The Indiana National Guard told you just what I told you.
And she added that Dallas was the first Airborne Ranger trainee selected by the number one LRP Team 41 Team Leader “Mad Max Anderson”… Before Max died he told his Indiana National Guard real deal 151st Airborne Ranger comrades that “Dallas was a good LRRP R.T.O. and changed his life”.
She also told you, “Every Airborne Ranger on LRRP missions gets the C.I.B. in the Army Special Operations circles. Even a meely P.F.C Airborne Ranger.”
She also told you that, “Dallas and all other similar Special Forces MOS O5B-2P LRRP/Ranger communication operators were assigned HQIIFF-V (S.L.S.) “Special Liaison Section” advisors for the top-etchelon Special Forces trained R.T.A.V.F. mercenaries. That’s how a P.F.C./E-4 gets 2 Purple Hearts and an Air Medal for 25 combat air assaults minimum.”
She also told you, The “Indiana’s Finest” have witnesses and pictures of Dallas in-country action.
Sergeant Campbell, you never mentioned that information hereon because it would make you look like a liar. Because you are.
APOLOGIZE NOW OR I WILL PUT YOU ON NOTICE, ALSO.
Kentucky & Tennessee have strict Cyber-Harassment Laws in which you qualify easily as an interstate predator. The rest of these idiots are interstaters too.
What County do you live in… and please what is your telephone number..? Don’t lie again… The State Patrol hates that. They told me to get the phone numbers “to them first.” Got that picture…?
August 25th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Oh, and since I know you’re reading this site, Wittgenfeld – here’s a reminder. I’m pretty sure you’ve forgotten it, but because of some royally out-of-line comments you made roughly six weeks ago, Jonn put comments from you on his “to be moderated” list. That means they get reviewed before they get posted – if they’re allowed to be posted at all.
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=29627#comment-643151
Jonn’s out of pocket much of this weekend. TAH is his site and he’s the one who put you on moderation, so it’s his call as to which of your comments – if any – ever show up. So you’ll just have to wait until he gets a chance to look at the drivel you’ve got queued up awaiting moderator approval to see which of them – if any – Jonn decides to let appear here at TAH.
And, to reiterate: if you have documentation that proves anything written about you at this site is incorrect, send a copy. If it’s legit and checks out, I’ll correct anything I’ve written – and I’m sure Jonn will do the same.
August 25th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
MODERATION…? You people are stupid.
I don’t care if you moderate me. In the real world it is called “muzzling”. The only reason I hang around you peoples’ shit-hole is because I have been coersed here by well documeneted cyber/net valor vultures. Vigilanti is against the law big time and cyber/harassment is right in there too.
The LRRP and your local Police are coming…. with screen captures of Lilyea’s illegal cyber activities and plenty of witnesses, let’s see where all that goes. I bet you go to jail before I do. Wanna bet…?
You won’t be alone Jonn-Jonn cause I’m attaching all you all together to the black widow Mary. She has given me all I need to sink her “boatload of bastards” too. There has already been formal complaints against the Schantags PoWnetwork downtown Branson Police Department.
What will happen when the Purple Heart City has a Purple Heart Military Gala that excludes a real deal combat wounded and disabled Vietnam War Veteran of the elite Airborne Rangers..? Think about that. I am already front page news everywhere I go. I have over a hundred other correct newspaper stories about me and what all I do for Veterans. You people have seen them too. BUT never mention them… Peculuar isn’t it.
August 25th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
I think I am going to be in Tampa at the R.N.C. too… Ohhh Boy….! Hope I find PAC Man Seavey there.
He will get quite a political grilling if my circle of military friends find him. The LRRP possie will android me immediately.
Happy Hurricane everybody….
August 28th, 2012 at 9:05 am
WittLessOne: muzzling? No (we should be so lucky). In the real world that’s called “an owner running his website as he or she sees fit”. Private property and all that.
You’re posting here at the website owner’s sufferance. If Jonn wants to moderate and review a-priori everything everyone posts here – or only a few fools’ posts – or to ban someone entirely, it’s entirely within his prerogative as website owner to do so. You have no legal “right” to comment here. Be glad Jonn hasn’t banned you.
Sheesh, you really need to stick to behaving like a clown only when you’re dressed up like Doofus Chicken (or whatever you call your character these days). Here, you’re simply acting like a fool.
August 28th, 2012 at 9:18 am
“a real deal combat wounded and disabled Vietnam War Veteran of the elite Airborne Rangers”
You talk too much.
August 28th, 2012 at 9:20 am
You people are stupid.
Says the guy who FLIES under the influence. Gravity is a bitch, ain’t it?
And Hondo, there’s a reason Jonn hasn’t banned Wittless–it’s called cheap entertainment.
August 28th, 2012 at 10:00 am
The crazy is strong with this one.
August 28th, 2012 at 10:13 am
I’m assuming he’s typing this one-handed while wearing his “I’m kind of a big deal” Bieber shirt.
August 28th, 2012 at 11:55 am
“What will happen when the Purple Heart City has a Purple Heart Military Gala that excludes a real deal combat wounded and disabled Vietnam War Veteran of the elite Airborne Rangers..?”
What does this dude not understand about private organizations and events? Hey smart guy; they can exclude anyone they want, especially RTOs with delusions of grandeur who insult the organizer, and have threatened to disrupt the event.
August 28th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
“The LRRP and your local Police are coming…. with screen captures of Lilyea’s illegal cyber activities and plenty of witnesses, let’s see where all that goes.”
I, too, would love to see where it all goes. Instead of running your considerable piehole, Dallas, get on with the program and get to the arresting part. I would love to see your LRRP Assassin bad self leading your LRRP ninjas in to do the arresting. Lead from the front, real deal badass LRRP Assassin, and take charge of the situation. Post video of you rolling up to Lilyea’s house ready to take him in. Well, ok, have someone post video of it, because I doubt you will be in any condition to breathe, let alone post a video.
August 28th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
I’m STILL 1–waiting to see what Jonn has said/done here that is illegal in DullASS’s eyes, 2–waiting to see those CIB orders.
So where are they, DullASS? I thought you were whipping those fuckers out most ricky-tick a few months ago.
August 28th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Sparky, you seem kind of cranky today. Having a bad day?
August 28th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
As this thread approaches 500 comments, I’m wondering what the record is at TAH. Anyone keep tabs on that stat?
August 28th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
There’s one thread that’s over 600 posts from 2009. I’ll look but Soupy and Gunny Driveway have to be close.
August 28th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Did a quick check. Unoffically, of course.
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=7224
That is a thread from January 2009 about Obama blowing off the Salute to Heroes (MOH Recipient) Inaugural Ball that as of today has 615 posts.
Gunny Driveway is a close second at 578 posts.
Surprisingly, Soupy is only at 413. Congrats, DullASS. You might get there yet. The biggest bandwidth-jacking fag on all of TAH. Go, you senile old fucker, go!
And PH2–yeah, feel like shit and have little tolerance for same today. It is what it is.
August 28th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Mailahn has exceeded 600 total comments, but I don’t think he’s done that in any single article (he has multiple articles). Don’t think Soup has 500 in aggregate (he also has multiple articles here), but he might. But I think he’s fairly close if he doesn’t.
In aggregate, Wittlessone here is approaching 700 total comments – nearly 500 here, 150+ on the recap thread, and a few more on a third (32, I think).
I’m pretty sure Jonn told me once the all-time record for comments on a single article was 640, but he didn’t mention which article or when. It happened prior to my discovery of TAH, though.
Yeah, I spend way too much time here. (smile)
August 28th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Thanks to all, especially Sparky. I hit the link to the Obama/MOH Ball and now know just what I’ll be doing the next day ot two! AAARGGHHHH.
August 28th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
ot? That’s the Russian word for or.
August 28th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Sparky, I hope you get feeling better.
August 29th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Yeeeaaaahhhhh ….! 500 musings from all these dumb asses… 500 must be “My Tipping Point” here in the land of Mil/Kooks and Stolen Valor Mafiaosoes hereon. I got my orders today from St. Louis… Turns out just like I said and a couple interesting surprises too..?
I love the letter of commendation from the commanding general of the Royal Thailand Army to the commanding general of the IIFFHHC calling me the “Liaison N.C.O.” and recommending me for an appropiate medal for heroism in combat.
Soooo where do you punks get in line to apologize to special forces cross-trained Airborne Ranger Infantryman/R.T.O. LRRP and Drill Sergeant Wittgenfeld.
I got the goods, now where are you assholes…?
August 30th, 2012 at 5:58 am
So, you “got the goods” now, eh – WitLessOne? OK – put up or shut up. Redact your SSN, scan the docs, and send Jonn copies.
But you might want to think about a couple of things before you start proclaiming “victory”, fool. First – even on day one, no one ever disputed that a CIB was in your records. The question was always whether that CIB was legit. Even properly-issued award orders aren’t always legit. And if they’re proven to have been issued in error, award orders and awards can be revoked later. Even years later.
Second: if that alleged “letter of commendation” you claim to have identifies you as a “Liaison NCO”, well, that only confirms what I’ve contended all along. You see, WitLessOne, such a letter proves, in writing, that you were NOT any kind of Advisor; it proves you were assigned to a Liaison Team, and acted in that capacity – liaison. “Liaison” is NOT the same kind of duty as “Advisor”. Bottom line: you’re proving yourself a liar if that letter says what you claim.
Based on your past history here, WitLessOne, I’ll believe you actually have something when I see it. Until then, go pound sand into one of your bodily orifices. Your choice as to which orifice.
August 30th, 2012 at 6:02 am
“special forces cross-trained Airborne Ranger Infantryman/R.T.O. LRRP and Drill Sergeant Wittgenfeld.”
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
August 30th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Hey Hondo, the pondo… What if Dally Whacker’s ground Commander is the most famous Green Beret of the Vietnam War..? And I was his “Liaison N.C.O.” You people would look really stupid hah.
Of course you “Stolen Valor Mafia” types can’t puke up the apology, can you. That’s who you really are… When I turn up in Branson for the big dance I will have all my paperwork to prove I have been harassed and dishonered by a “band of bastards” of the Iraq and Afghaneterans for cyber sports entertainment….right there at the Purple Heart Gala…
I like the part where old Hondouchebagman never said I was didn’t have a C.I.B….. What a bunch of bullshit. You trash-hole people are trying to forget the other 500 posts hereon and many other places. Remember..? “Dallas is a poser”…. But in reality… I am everything I say and much more which you people never mention because it does not fit your kind of branding.
You tell JONN-JONN Lilyea and American Legion/Soldier’s Angels Marky C. Seavey, the perpetrator, to send me another email demanding my paperwork again….
Let’s see what happens this time…
August 30th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Dullass,where are the orders and letters that are supposed to clear your lying ass? Since you you are undefeated why don’t you and have a boxing match for the Wounded Warriors when you come to Branson? Me,a Marine helo crew chief Viet Nam disabled Vet. You the skilled killer. I am 65,5ft 5in and weight 145lbs.This is not a lie about myself like you do constantly. I will make it easy for you, 3 three minute rounds. I am sure we could quite a bit of money for the WWP. Seeing how famous you are cause you told us so. How about a charity raiser for the Troops. Joe
August 30th, 2012 at 8:21 am
At no time was was Dallas classified as a LRRP or LRP during his tour in RVN. He was a RTO assigned to Ranger units .
Unit Designation Major Command Period of Service
Co. E, 20th Infantry (LRP) I Field Force Vietnam 25 Sep 1967 – 1 Feb 1969
Co. F, 51st Infantry (LRP) II Field Force Vietnam 25 Sep 1967 – 1 Feb 1969
Co. D, 151st Infantry (LRP) II Field Force Vietnam 26 Dec 1968—1 Feb 1969
Co. E, 50th Infantry (LRP) 9th Infantry Division 20 Dec 1967—1 Feb 1969
Co. F, 50th Infantry (LRP) 25th Infantry Division 20 Dec 1967—1 Feb 1969
Co. E, 51st Infantry (LRP) 23rd Infantry Division 12 Dec 1968—1 Feb 1969
Co. E, 52nd Infantry (LRP) 1st Cavalry Division 20 Dec 1967—1 Feb 1969
Co. F, 52nd Infantry (LRP) 1st Infantry Division 20 Dec 1967—1 Feb 1969
Co. E, 58th Infantry (LRP) 4th Infantry Division 20 Dec 1967—1 Feb 1969
Co. F, 58th Infantry (LRP) 101st Airborne Division 10 Jan 1968—1 Feb 1969
71st Infantry Detachment (LRP) 199th Infantry Brigade 20 Dec 1967—1 Feb 1969
74th Infantry Detachment (LRP) 173rd Airborne Brigade 20 Dec 1967—1 Feb 1969
78th Infantry Detachment (LRP) 3rd Brigade, 82nd Airborne Div 15 Dec 1968-1 Feb 1969
79th Infantry Detachment(LRP)1st Brigade,5th Mechanized Div 15 Dec 1968-1 Feb 1969
Ranger Companies
Unit Designation Major Command Period of Service
Co. C, (Ranger), 75th Infantry I Field Force Vietnam 1 Feb 1969—25 Oct 1971
Co. D, (Ranger), 151st Infantry II Field Force Vietnam 1 Feb 1969—20 Nov 69
Co. D, (Ranger), 75th Infantry II Field Force Vietnam 20 Nov 1969—10 Apr 70
Co. E, (Ranger), 75th Infantry 9th Infantry Division 1 Feb 1969—12 Oct 1970
Co. F, (Ranger), 75th Infantry 25th Infantry Division 1 Feb 1969—15 Mar 1971
Co. G, (Ranger), 75th Infantry 23rd Infantry Division 1 Feb 1969—1 Oct 1971
Co. H, (Ranger), 75th Infantry 1st Cavalry Division 1 Feb 1969—15 Aug 72
Co. I, (Ranger), 75th Infantry 1st Infantry Division 1 Feb 1969—7 Apr 1970
Co. K, (Ranger), 75th Infantry 4th Infantry Division 1 Feb 1969—10 Dec 70
Co. L, (Ranger), 75th Infantry 101st Airborne Division 1 Feb 1969—25 Dec 1971
Co. M, (Ranger), 75th Infantry 199th Infantry Brigade 1 Feb 1969—12 Oct 1970
Co. N, (Ranger), 75th Infantry 173rd Airborne Brigade 1 Feb 1969-25 Aug 1971
Co. O, (Ranger), 75th Infantry 3rd Brigade, 82nd Airborne Div 1 Feb 1969-20 Nov 1969
Co. P, (Ranger), 75th Infantry 1st Brigade, 5th Mechanized Div 1 Feb 1969-Aug 31 1971
August 30th, 2012 at 8:47 am
@504: On this point I have to side with Dallas. Being assigned to a LRRP or LRP team kinda makes you one, even if you are the team radio operator. I have, also, never contended that he wasn’t a Ranger. What I did contend was his use of the tan beret and that jacked up class A uniform, plus his self important bloviating. Those are the big turn offs.
August 30th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Old Trooper: Scotty is correct above. When Wittgenfeld arrived in Vietnam, his unit was no longer a LRP or LRRP unit. Well before his arrival in Vietnam – on 1 Feb 1969, to be precise – the unit had transitioned from LRP to Ranger. My understanding is that the focus of duties and assignments changed with the transition. Ditto the unit’s organization – specifically, the unit’s parachute packing section was removed, and the command billet was bumped up to Major vice Captain.
http://www.ranger151.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26
http://www.75thrra.com/history/d151_hx.html
Bottom line: Wittgenfeld was never assigned to an LRP or LRRP unit in Vietnam; he was assigned to a Ranger unit. He arrived in Vietnam as an individual replacement and was assigned to D/151st Infantry nearly 7 months after they’d transitioned from LRP to Ranger. By claiming he was a LRRP or LRP, he’s claiming as his own history/valor/operations performed by those who came before him, implying that he was present at that time/for those operations himself – and he wasn’t. Rather, Wittgenfeld served in Vietnam a bit later, as a Ranger – which is honorable and arduous service in and of itself. Why he needs to claim he served as something he never did is beyond me. His actual service is honorable enough.
There’s a term for appropriating the valor and deeds of others and trying to pass it off as one’s own. In fact, as I recall we recently had a tournament about it.
August 30th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Hondo: Ranger units had LRP and LRRP teams within them that performed those duties. The book Charlie Rangers lays that out pretty clearly, plus, my dad mentioned the same thing (he was on a LRRP team in the 101st in ’68). That’s all I’m saying.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Old Trooper: yes, but those were Ranger units. If Wittgenfeld wants to justify his claim to being a Ranger via service in a Ranger unit, well, OK – I can buy that. But if he also wants to claim to be a “LRP” or “LRRP”, well, in my book he needs to come up with service in an LRP or LRRP unit. Same principle.
I’ll buy him being considered a Ranger through service in a Ranger unit. I won’t buy him rating the title LRP or LRRP through “well, that’s what the unit used to be called, so that’s what I am”.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:56 am
WitLessOne: I don’t give a flying fornication (not even a flying fornication while intoxicated) if you’ve got a memo personally signed by Charlie Beckwith or Bull Simons, jackwagon. If that memo says you performed liaison duties or were assigned to a liaison section, well, that’s what you did – liaison duties. Liaison duty is freaking not the same as advisory duty. And that’s what your records show you did – provide comm support to a liaison team or section.
Similarly, working with or for someone who is or was Special Forces does NOT make you SF yourself. You have to actually be assigned to the unit in combat, or to go through the Q-course. Hell, I’ve got more time assigned to an SF Group than you spent in Vietnam – and I will NOT represent myself as SF, because it wasn’t combat service and I wasn’t medically eligible to go to the Q-course.
Further: you are lying through your freaking teeth in your last comment above. Show me where I ever said you did not have a CIB. Please. You can’t – because I’ve consistently said your records show you have a CIB. Everyone commenting here has acknowledged that.
What I have said – and the same point has been made by others – is that there are serious questions as to whether or not you legitimately qualified for your CIB, and thus whether it was awarded legitimately. And if I recall correctly, you’ve still yet to provide anything verifying that you (1) were ever formally awarded an 11-series MOS, (2) ever were assigned to an 11-anything duty position, or (3) even have CIB orders.
Frankly, I’m not all that worried about the CIB orders even if they exist. Invalid award orders sometimes get issued and make it into official records. And such invalid orders on occasion get discovered and revoked, too – sometimes years after the fact. Just ask a guy named Ken Aden how that works.
Time to put up or shut up, dipstick. Jonn’s e-mail address is listed under “Contact Us” above. Scan and send whatever documents you now say you have bolstering your claims. If you actually have anything, that is. I want to see the docs before I’ll believe a damn you have to say.
August 30th, 2012 at 11:06 am
He has my email address. Lord knows.
August 31st, 2012 at 8:37 am
Hondo, you are sooooo full of shit… I think you have some sort of vendetta going on here. Actually, I am only dealing with cybernet/harassment perpetrators Seavey, Lilyea, and Schantag.
They all owe me a public apology…. or procecution, now.
I know Lilyea’s hidden email address… not immportant.. What is important from this moment forward is “What is Lilyea’s residence telephone number and his residence address where he can be served papers…..
On Seavey,… I got his business numbers and address… but to save him embarrassment in Indianapolis American Legion Headquarters he needs to send me his residence phone number and his residence address for serving his paperwork.
Now to Ms. Black Widow Schantag. When I get to the big hotel military Purple Heart gala in Branson ? If Lilyea & Seavey’s shit-storm isn’t deleted from her infamous POW list..? She will be served papers during her big night out in public. I envision a uniformed “perp-walk” from the dance floor. That would be good for me. How about you all.
“The LRRP Cometh”
August 31st, 2012 at 8:50 am
Oh Yah…. Don’t you punks know my authentic combat radio callsign… It was “LoNg RaNgE PaTrOL 41″…
What part of that callsign is not a LRP/LRRP..?
See how stupid you young short-timer Iraq & Afghan Vets look, to others…?
I am betting the police and a Judge with a Jury of civilians will fry your asses.
August 31st, 2012 at 9:04 am
All of this is protected under the rights that you fought for, Wittgenfeld. These fine men are just listening to what Congress said as far as stolen valor goes.. And instead of trying to be a gentleman and talk it out with them, you went to insults. You should at least be happy these men are trying to restore honor and valor to the uniform, with so many posers today. They’re doing all of us who wear or have worn a uniform to defend the Constitution of The United States of America a favor.
August 31st, 2012 at 9:05 am
Oh yah…. I was told by a Florida Judge that after Lilyea is served the CYBERNET/HARASSMENT charges; his net is done till after the trial.
Which then after he and his net MAY or MAY NOT exist. Same with Seavey and his American Legion Burn Pit.
I will get front page news in Indiana where I am a resident and member of “Indiana’ Finest” 151st Airborne Rangers LRRPs. Hoosier shame is about to be brought upon Seavey’s HDQ…
August 31st, 2012 at 9:08 am
They all owe me a public apology…. or procecution, now.
For what, exactly? Definition of character?
Discovery is an awesome thing. Assuming you’d find a lawyer crazy or stupid enough to take the case (although I hear Branum is available) once your posts here are revealed, complete with IP addresses going back to you, etc., even the most money-grubbing ambulance chaser would just look you dead in your psychotic eyes and go, “You’re fucked.”
Still waiting for those CIB orders, bud.
August 31st, 2012 at 9:26 am
Wow…legal threats from a guy who got his legal education from Judge Wapner.
But then again, at least Wapner DOES have a Bronze Star and a legit CIB.
August 31st, 2012 at 9:37 am
“Still waiting for those CIB orders, bud”
I’ll bet he doesn’t have orders(that can be authenticated) proving much of anything. Typical poser who screams louder in hopes that he will be believed.
August 31st, 2012 at 10:13 am
That’s it, Dallass. with all the threats you’ve posted on here, I’m droppin the dime on you.
Going to call the VA down there and tell them a guy named DW has been talking about his PTSD and making threats to find people on this site, and that I am deeply concerned for their safety.
I have all your posts saved.
To use your own words…you are “ON NOTICE”
August 31st, 2012 at 10:19 am
Wittgenfeld: if you think I’m “full of shit”, point out precisely where I’m wrong – and provide documentation proving same. Otherwise, how about you go grab a nice steaming cup of STFU?
Oh, and if you’re currently an Indiana resident, you might want to explain this:
http://www.myhometownnews.net/index.php?id=93641
http://www.news-journalonline.com/news/local/west-volusia/2011/05/20/2-volusia-spots-listed-among-state-endangered-historic-sites.html
and this
http://volusia.org/history/HPBMinutes012511.pdf
and these
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CFMQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.news-journalonline.com%2Fimages%2F2011%2F12%2F23%2F20111222west.pdf&ei=ycBAUOzLFILm0QHqhoHQCw&usg=AFQjCNH94e0nGnGQvDCdZGfJVIbZnVnXKg&cad=rja
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&ved=0CE0QFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.news-journalonline.com%2Fimages%2F2012%2F03%2F19%2F20120315west.pdf&ei=ycBAUOzLFILm0QHqhoHQCw&usg=AFQjCNF7Pq7y54qbIaFCvcwzEPCfTpDGyQ
I’m guessing an out-of-state resident wouldn’t be a docent for any type of historical property in Orange City, or be all that keen on local history, or much care about historical building preservation in a town nearly 500 miles away from any point in Indiana.
Perhaps you’d also like to explain your numerous attendances at Orange City, Florida, town meetings – the minutes of which are a matter of public record. I won’t post links to those here, because they contain your address in Orange City.
Let’s see – March, April, May, August, September, November, December . . . . yeah, based on the above, it looks like you’re in the Orange City, FL, area year-round. Somehow, the Indiana resident claim just seems bogus. Kinda like many of the rest of your claims.
August 31st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Puts his wife’s name down as the owner, Claims ” other ” as his martial status. Then he claims 100% exemption disabled for himself & spouse for $61,000. Address is in Orange county FL. Something doesn’t seem right here. And now he is claiming to be a resident of Indiana? Yea I want you to take me to court Dip shit Dallas . I DARE YOU !! https://plus.google.com/photos/104786874651291635639/albums/5782895799619177377/5782895802760737762
August 31st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Maybe he can pry some of those big bucks out of his chocked-full wallet to hire some neighborhood kids to pick up his front yard before someone tows his house away thinking it’s abandoned.
August 31st, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Wow, DullASS, those are some fancy digs ya’ll got there…you really did splurge by going for the double-wide!
August 31st, 2012 at 2:55 pm
I wonder if the State of Florida would like to know that they’re giving him a tax break for being a 100% disabled veteran and he’s jumping from airplanes.
August 31st, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Jonn, someone should tell them.
August 31st, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Who gives a shit what your call sign was, idiot? My last name doesn’t make me a fucking ocean.
If I were Mary, I’d be obtaining a protective order against this unhinged asshat. Threatening to accost her in a specific location at a specific time should be enough to warrant extra protection. Personally, I hope he OD’s on Yawn’s mike&ike before then.
August 31st, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Well, you know our “good friend” Wittgenfeld’s claim of being an Indiana resident got me to wondering. And when I wonder about something, I like to look things up.
It turns out Florida voter registration information is something called a “public record”. That means the information generally is available to members of the public.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/voting/public.shtml
Who can register to vote in Florida? Glad you asked. The official answer is here:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/gen-faq.shtml#whoCanReg
Short version: US citizens 18 years of older who are residents of Florida and who aren’t felons (or who are felons who have had their voting rights restored) can register to vote in Florida.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/gen-faq.shtml#whoCanReg
It also turns out Orange City, FL, is in Volusia County, FL. Western Volusia County, to be precise. And the Volusia County Department of Elections is fairly easy to contact:
http://www.volusia.org/elections/DepartmentElections/department.htm
I called the Volusia County Department of Elections today just before 1PM Eastern Daylight Time. A nice individual answered the phone and assisted me. Given a name, and address, and a bit of other information, they’ll verify whether someone is registered to vote. After all: in Florida, voter registration information is generally public record information.
Anyone wanna guess who’s registered to vote in Volusia County, Florida?
Hmmm . . . I wonder if voter registration info in Indiana is also public record information?
August 31st, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Addendum: in case anyone was wondering – voter registration information is apparently public record information in Indiana, too.
https://indianavoters.in.gov/PublicSite/%28X%281%29A%28W33nfsETUohNYhgff6RWlhOv2hxsPfAWElTy5GdFy_2vtwOP82bhFS-woadY5wzSwvuLNwivvWGNlkWeGdoTQ7onXxDYUFNzkHvxztyHprdZjhQ93j8rpAxP6OXVvF0SKV6riDcMnetLMdJ8aKjBHjcNFYY1%29%29/Public/FT1/PublicLookupMain.aspx?Link=Registration&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
Anyone wanna guess who DOES NOT seem to be registered to vote in any county in Indiana?
August 31st, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Of course not you idiots…
You can vote in only one state… Same with my Florida drivers license.
There is a whole town in Indiana and an entire Airborne Ranger Unit from Indiana that would verify I am a real bonafide Hoosier… transplant to Florida.. Got that, dumb asses. You are making me smile as I got you all spending your money now, to know me better. The more you know…. the farther down the drain your asses all go.
Soooo, do not try to switch topics: LILYEA, Florida authorities want your real phone number and where they can really serve you papers. NOT my lawyer dip-shits. THE LAW…
The black widow Schantag has nothing to fear from me at all… well except embarassment. I am bringing the LAW to the big Purple Heart dance party. I have to identify her.. Then I will be gone… Bye Bye… BaBe. Did you weenies know I have 2 Purple Hearts, yet…?
I love the part where you now want to contact the Daytona Beach VA… That is wonderful.
The real deal LRRP has an ambush waiting for you, there. Ha ha ha ha ha ha…!
Just tell them VA people Jonn Lilyea of the “This Ain’t Hell” is calling for LRP41s PTSD Medical Chief.
The head Doctor has “paper files” on you all. She told me to procecute you all. I am taking her wonderful advise. By the way.. She explains, “I don’t need a dime to procecute you all for what you have done to me hereon. Proof is everywhere.
She is the VA PTSD Medical Chief who has the “medical damage” results of the infamous Iraq & Afghan war vets “Band of Bastards”. You punks LOOK REALLY UGLY there….
I have my orders now… you are screwed … Bend over cause I am going to whipe your asses with them.. I love it when a plan comes together.
August 31st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Hey, Dingus, you’re the big internet sleuth, if you can’t go to White Pages and dial my name in, that’s your problem. You’re the one who was bragging to your new buddy, Michael Yon, that you had my “eight-digit grid”. Fire for effect, Dingus. And taking legal advice from a doctor is a stellar way to live. I go to my accountant for dietary advice. ANd you spelled that word wrong. You’re “a real bonafide hoser”.
August 31st, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Mobile Home… double-wide…? You fuckers are nuts…
Is this some of your best “super-slewth” findings or just more fabricated bullshit, as usual. SHAME ON YOU PUNKS…
STOP HARASSING AND DISHONORING 100% COMBAT DISABLED VIETNAM WAR VETERANS OF THE ELITE AIRBORNE RANGERS.
August 31st, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Well I better give that “too simple number” a call and see if you answer or not. I do have an eight digit on where you want, me to see.
BUT LRRPS don’t really go for the “Viet Cong Intel” mostly bogus.
One of the places I am sleuthing about you is your former Ranger Unit, too. I figure they will be interested in your retirement fun times at my expence.. Let’s see what they advise me, too.
August 31st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Dallas, no one made you come back here to keep posting. So why don’t you just pop smoke already?
I know you got 2 PH. My issue with you is that you are a bloviating pompous fuckface, and I think you need some serious help.
Out.
August 31st, 2012 at 8:14 pm
You show just how butt hurt you are from being exposed for your embellishments with each comment that you make Wittgenfeld.You know most idiots keep their mouth’s shut and are thought a fool. You however select to open yours and remove all doubt. Like I said. I DARE YOU to take me to court boy.I back up my proof that your a lieing POS with facts. You however continue to just run your mouth with your insults & idle threats.As Zita Moore has already told you boy. Quote ” It ain’t all about you ” UNquote.Time for you to stop dishonoring ALL Veterans including those of the Vietnam War. Its time for a 65 year old clown to GROW UP !!
” Thank you & Welcome Home RTO Boy Dallas Wittgenfeld ” !
August 31st, 2012 at 8:30 pm
@532.
Your a fool.
August 31st, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Was mach ich hier mit diesen fiesen hirnlosen fettsack?
All that grandiose twaddle and threats mean he’s off his meds, in the manic end of bipolar neuropsychosis and desperately seeking attention.
Why else would anyone make such an asinine display of himself in a public forum?
August 31st, 2012 at 8:41 pm
I think our friend here is mixing meds and booze. big no-no.
August 31st, 2012 at 8:53 pm
@537.
You missed one.
Meds, MEDALS, and booze.
August 31st, 2012 at 10:15 pm
@529: Sorry, Dallas, but with that post, it’s a fail. If Florida law enforcement really wanted Jonn’s contact information, including his phone number, it’s real easy for them to obtain it. That you are claiming Jonn has to give it to you for them, it shows that you aren’t really in contact with Florida law enforcement. The Mothership, perhaps, but not law enforcement.
Hell, I have his phone number and address. Why don’t you have your Florida law enforcement contact give me a jingle and I will pass that information on to them? Actually, they can give my local law enforcement a call and they will call me and then we can all have a cup of joe and a donut and talk about you.
August 31st, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Wittless better hope he doesn’t get popped like Ventura over in Bronson. But if he does, I hope it is caught on film. I’d watch it over. And over. And over.
September 1st, 2012 at 6:46 am
Actually, Wittgenfeld, I was really hoping I’d find you registered to vote in both states. I’m actually a bit surprised you were smart enough not to try that.
Wittgenfeld, you’re a damned liar. And I just proved it.
You claimed in comment 515 above to be an “Indiana resident”; now you’re backpedaling. Here’s an exact quote from what you wrote:
“I will get front page news in Indiana where I am a resident . . . “ (emphasis added)
I just proved you lied through your teeth in comment 515 above, dipstick – and you’ve just admitted as much in comment 529. Don’t try to weasel out of it. Man-up for once in your freaking post-military life and take responsibility for your own failings. How? A good start would be owning up to the plain fact that you just got caught lying.
You cannot be a resident of two different states. You are now a FLORIDA resident. You used to be an Indiana resident. You aren’t any more. Quit lying about yourself.
‘Course, that probably means you’d never talk about yourself for the rest of your life. That would suit me.
Oh, and as for your continuing claims to have been an “Indiana Ranger” – technically true, perhaps, but also misleading. Don’t forget: you weren’t a member of the unit when they deployed to Vietnam. In fact, you were assigned to D/151st Inf in Vietnam as an individual replacement – most likely by happenstance. You got levied for Vietnam (or maybe you volunteered) while you were serving in the Regular Army at Fort Bragg. D/151st Infantry had been in Vietnam almost 8 months already the day you got there. And don’t even try to play the “I was too young to join before they left” card – you turned 18 nearly a year before the unit was mobilized in May 1968. If you were really the “super-stud warrior” you claim, they’d have found a place for you. If you’d actually ever tried to join, that is.
Quit trying to claim the honor of others as your own through association or lie, Wittgenfeld. Your actual service is honorable enough; you don’t need to embellish it through lies or misrepresentation.
September 1st, 2012 at 7:45 am
Regular Army Unit…? You mean 82nd Airborne Division..!
My valor is my valor dumb asses, not the unit’s nomenclature…
And you all keep refereing to lawsuits no no no
no…. prosecution is the reference from these days…I don’t care about your mmoney I want you asses hung out to dry.
I got you all in a bag… This blog breaks all kinds of cyber/harassment laws and especially the interstate part of the law. We are all going for a ride…. Yip Yip Yipeeeee..!
September 1st, 2012 at 7:58 am
So stop yapping do something for once in your miserable pathetic life. Fire for effect Dingus.
September 1st, 2012 at 7:58 am
Take your meds Dallas
September 1st, 2012 at 8:00 am
Have you punks been reading all the Smithsonian articles about me lately. I am one of the features…. NO military experience necessary… Still front page news in my community.
By the way… keep checking in Indiana cause I am there all the time…. Did you all know I am famous in Indiana and nobody there gives a shit about you punks. Now that is that’s funny right there….
When you all come to Florida you will have to pay an admission to get my autograph in a line with children. How will that make you macho asses feel…? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !
Have you jack-offs just now figured out I am famous in Florida too.. There is your sign….
Well, I am off to go freefalling with real deal Airborne Rangers doing what we do when we retire…. Blues Skys dumb ass Leggs.
Geeeeerrrrooonnnniiiimmmmooooo…!
September 1st, 2012 at 8:05 am
Double your dosage
September 1st, 2012 at 8:09 am
@542: I didn’t mention lawsuits; I mentioned law enforcement.
As Jonn just mentioned; get on with it, already. Shit or get off the stool.
September 1st, 2012 at 8:12 am
By the way….? LRRPs don’t jump when the “Viet Cong” want us too. We are very sneaky…! One of our sayings was: “hide & watch”…
You all waiting for me, is part of the mission.
I have been successful at most everything I have ever attempted… including you all. I have sprung you all out from the shadow world you like to live in. code names and all.. Now you all have backed off the Face Book pages because of my “splashes”. Sooo, you are now on the Face Book “chats” thinking you are covered…. NOT SOOOOO. Face Book police are hot on your trails.. They even changed their SOP , thanks to me and a few other comrades.
September 1st, 2012 at 8:22 am
Careful Jonn, his doctor thinks this is a solid case for “procecution”.
September 1st, 2012 at 8:54 am
WitLessOne: I’m providing this for your education, since you’re obviously quite ignorant. I’m sorry, but I’ll have to use some big words in what follows. Grab a dictionary – if you own one.
There are three primary categories of Army units and soldiers. Those three are the Regular Army, the Army Reserve, and the Army National Guard. Regular Army units and soldiers are on active duty continuously. Army Reserve and Army National Guard units generally are not. The same is true for Army Reserve and National Guard soldiers.
The three categories are mututaly exclusive; a unit or soldier is one of the three, but only one, at any given time. Units may have a mix of personnel assigned at any given time, but units remain either Regular, Reserve, or National Guard units until their status is formally changed from one category to the other. Similarly, soldiers retain their status until they formally change from one category to the other.
The 82nd Airborne is part of the Regular Army, as it is neither Army Reserve nor Army National Guard. D/151st was an Army National Guard unit that was mobilized to Federal active duty and sent to Vietnam. You were a Regular Army soldier, serving a Regular Army enlistment, who was levied for Vietnam (or volunteered to go) and assigned to D/151st Inf as an individual replacement on arrival in the RVN – probably by random chance. During your assignment to D/151st Inf, you were a Regular Army soldier assigned to an Army National Guard unit.
When D/151st returned to the states to demobilize, the existing Regular Army personnel assigned to same remained in-place; they formed the core of the newly-created/reflagged unit, D/75th Inf, which took over from D/151st Inf. You stayed behind with D/75th Inf because you were Regular Army serving a 1-year tour in Vietnam and had only been in Vietnam about 3 months at the time. When D/75th Inf was disbanded in Apr 1970, you were reassigned to the II FFORCE Staff Liaison Section to the RTAVF as a radio operator to finish the rest of your year in Vietnam. During each of these assignments, you were a Regular Army soldier assigned to a Regular Army unit. At the end of your tour, you then rotated back to CONUS to finish the rest of your Regular Army enlistment. You did so as a Regular Army soldier assigned to Regular Army training units. Your duty assignment, after additional training, was as a Drill Sergeant.
When you ETSed from the Regular Army, you did not cut all ties to the military. Rather, you transferred to the Army Reserve for a brief period of time to finish the rest of your statutory enlistment obligation. During this time, you were a member of the inactive Army Reserve. At the end of that time – sometime in 1974, as I recall – you transitioned completely out of the miltiary.
I know it pains a narcissist like you to be a “regular” anything. But you were Regular Army, both before, during and after you were in Vietnam, dipstick. Deal with it.
Of course, your comments here have proven you to be very “special”. Short bus special, perhaps – but special nonetheless.
September 1st, 2012 at 8:58 am
@542…82nd IS Regular Army, numbnuts.
If you’re feeling froggy, leap already. Otherwise just shut it.
Just remember there’s plenty of evidence to be used against you in court on this blog, many posts on here and Facebook where you’ve threatened others.
so fire away, asshole. Just be ready for the return fire.
September 1st, 2012 at 9:05 am
PS…I would NEVER, EVER have a fuckup like you be my RTO. Geeez.
September 1st, 2012 at 11:01 am
The LRRP Cometh….!
September 1st, 2012 at 11:10 am
Ohhhhh. I remembner when you thought I was “a poser”… You punks have changed your tunes now, HaH… That is where I started and now you want me to “pop smoke” and fly away to shut up. NONE of that will be happening. Your “Stolen Valor Mafia” blog by blog will go down…
I am saving Scotty the Jar-Head for the finally…. sort of like when I finish a fireworks display…
Did you guys know I am highly trained in demolitions and incenduaries…? Part of being a “trail assassin”. Look on my DD-214 and notice I am an expert rifelman too.
September 1st, 2012 at 11:54 am
I noticed that you’re not using the SFA as part of your “proof” anymore Dingus. Why is that?
September 1st, 2012 at 12:34 pm
“Did you guys know I am highly trained in demolitions and incenduaries…? Part of being a “trail assassin”. Look on my DD-214 and notice I am an expert rifelman too.”
Well, seeing as you can’t even spell those things I don’t think anyone here would believe you’re anywhere near capable of actually USING them.
Also, I see this as another (empty) threat. It will be saved for future reference.
Finally, stop beating off and reading this blog. Nobody cares if the RTO “commeth”, you sick freak.
September 1st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Hello DullAss Widgetfield,
I am your alter ego. You are a moron of epic capabilities and I salute your ability to prove to the entire military community that you are a complete and utter crank jacket!
BRAVO ZULU!
September 1st, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Incenduaries? That isn’t even a word? Is that a new made-up word for blowhard?
If that’s meant for a firebomb, it’s spelled INCENDIARIES and finale is spelled FINALE.
September 1st, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Yea, What’s up with that Dallas ? Why aren’t you using the SFA as part of your proof anymore ? Could it be that the SFA called your bluff old man?
Now stick one finger in one ear & close one eye so that none of what I type escapes your brainless housing group. I DARE YOU to come at me with anything boy. Put up or shut up fool.
September 1st, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Wittgenfeld: I still think you’re a poser. No, scratch that – I KNOW you’re a poser. You’ve previously claimed decorations you never earned (think BSM w/V device – and please spare us the bullshit denials; 14 or so reporters don’t independently make the same exact error unless they’re being fed bad info). Your CIB is suspect as hell and may not be legit. You’re an all-time jerk. And you’ve made a highly-suspect career out of being a Ramboesque military “hero”, when the facts appear to be decidedly otherwise. Half the claims you make don’t check out. And you lie about piddling stuff that doesn’t matter – like your state of residence.
In fact, you’re the worst kind of poser. You served honorably, as an Airborne-qualified member of a Ranger unit in Vietnam. That’s probably the 3rd hardest job in Vietnam (I’d rate SF and the original LRP/LRRPs higher, the latter only because they had to figure it out on the fly; by the time you got there, the TTPs for Ranger recon patrolling in Vietnam were well-established). Yet that wasn’t enough for you, not “heroic” enough. So you had to claim – falsely – the other two (LRP/LRRP and SF) as well. Plus awards you never earned, and deeds I’m relatively sure you never did (I want to see independent proof of that “skydiving for the orphans in Vietnam” claim before I’ll believe it).
The truth may not be what you want, Wittggenfeld, and may hurt. But it’s still the truth. Lying about it doesn’t change reality.
Here’s the reality: you served honorably, in one hellaciously tough job. But ever since, you’ve been trading on the valor and accomplishments of others, lying and embellishing, to make yourself look like the Great American Hero you never were. And that’s disgusting, especially in light of your own honorable service.
Not everyone can be Audie Murphy, Bull Simons, Charlie Beckwith, or David Hackworth. But everyone can be honorable and truthful. You ought to quit acting like a jerk and give the latter a try for a change.
September 1st, 2012 at 3:24 pm
How many people here can name at least one guy who would stand up for him if you were the “victim” here? I mean, if you were in a very special outfit where the guys were so tight you couldn’t put a gnat’s ass between any two of them when the shit got deep, wouldn’t you–without prompting–come to his aid if you were the “victim” here?
September 1st, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Well, Well, well..? I just landed a ramair parachutea high-performance canopy in the center of the target area standing up… meanwhile you Leggs are still here squirting on me while I am Rangering…. how funny is that. I had a couple scotch on the rocks when a little redhead honey took me to my “Love Machine” van and sucked the life out of me for free.
You people are pathetic and anyone (normal) would agree with me. My goal is 600 or more comments by you jack-offs.
Since when did you guys start the spelling bee on here. None of you stupid fuckers can spell my name right… how stupid is that. Now you all are copy catting me… CoooooL…! I win again…
And it is very obvious to a normal person that you guys are jealous as hell of me. Toooo Bad live with that..
Remember..? The entire military is NOT watching you or me…. Kiss my ass…
What was the names of those news reporters articles… you need to help me prosecute them too. Go find a picture or a quote from me…. Otherwise you and the reporters that you can’t find are the cause and effect here with bogus information, or bailout dipshits..
And, Hey Hondo, I like the way you are starting to sound…. If you could have been more knowledgeable a year ago…I wouldn’t be here. That’s where the lies began, remember Face Book and your bullshit there… I got the screen captures… Ha Ha Ha Ha…
You have but to look at my uniform…. there are my medals… always has been.. Combat Infantry Airborne Ranger LRRP Drill Sergeant. Decorated for Valor in Combat with two Purple Hearts and an Air Medal representing more than 25 combat Infaantry air assaults…
NONE of you weenies have 25 combat Infantry air assaults.. Get down and give Drill Sergeant Wittgenfeld 20 pushups if your old asses can…. This disabled vet can do 50 pushups today.
September 1st, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Still waiting for those orders, DullASS.
Try looking in one of those 4-5 old cars you got up on blocks in the yard, you know–the ones where you turned the truck beds into chicken coops.
September 1st, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Hondo … no doubt he is a POSER. He wears uniform(s) of the Armed Forces of the United States that he IS NOT ENTITLED or AUTHORIZED to wear. There are very simple rules, regulations, and policies regarding the wearing of the uniform after you have been discharged and/or retired. DullAss Widgetfield has written his own books of regs and wears variants of uniforms at the circus, NASCAR races, the library, shopping mall, parachute parties, poorly organized rallies, swap meets, NAMBLA meetings, where ever he can attract a crowd of like minded goons. Quite frankly he is NOT AUTHORIZED to wear much of what he wears … and if he ever showed up at the largest Veteran’s Day Parade in our great Nation dressed as he does … he would be singled out in a NY minute and he would be on the 6 and 11 o’clock news: “MILITARY FAKE BUSTED DURING NYC VETERAN’S DAY PARADE”.
He still has never responded to any of posts!
September 2nd, 2012 at 7:00 am
Wha, wha, wha…. You are NOT the uniform police. Get a life dipshit… I can wear what ever I want… remember..? So can you. I fought for your rights .. now you think you can muzzle me or direct my color of uniforms or my tee-shirts or jumpsuits. If you touch any part of my uniform dasterdly things could happen to you. Everything I wear is mine…. look AGAIN…
September 2nd, 2012 at 8:43 am
The only one whining is you, Dullass.
It’s funny, now when one googles your name, this article is the first result.
So the whole interweb can see your douchebaggery.
September 2nd, 2012 at 9:11 am
Listen hear DullAss … Listen very closely … You just threatened me (not a smart move). Read what you wrote and I will restate what I wrote. You are a POSER elite … who is NOT authorized to wear the variants of uniforms that you wear. In fact the manner in which you wear the uniforms variants exceeds permissions granted to active and reserve duty and retirees (and it is simply embarrassing). So if you are seen by me (a former fed LEO who still works in the business) and my friends (many federal LEOs) I will do everything in my power as a citizen to expose you on the spot and move for a citizens arrest. BTW NYPD traditionally don’t like military posers like you … you see many of them are former military and or in the reserves. My guess is if a NYPD officers saw you and asked to see your ID card … and you did not produce an ID … well you might spend a night in the TOMBS … shit if it was a weekend perhaps 2 or 3 nights. NYC would be perfect …come on up and show us in NYC just how BAD ASS you are … so please come to the NYC Veteran ‘s Day Parade. You can not miss me … I will be marching with thousands of other Navy personnel and 10′s of thousands of other services. You see dumbass … it is illegal to wear any uniform of a uniformed service (includes NOAA, USMM, USPHS) … that includes US Army. Further it is illegal to wear badges, insignia, warfare designators, ribbons, medals, and other devices not awarded. You see dumb ass the Stolen Valor Act loss in the USSC was about free speech. Yes you can lie all day long about you bullshit expolits. But if I catch YOU in my town you will be be handled IAW the law.
You are a pussy …. your threats are more humorous to me than they are a concern.
Watch you mouth with me you disgraceful POS!
September 2nd, 2012 at 9:27 am
Wittgenfeld: I’ve never had a Facebook account, dipstick – or posted a comment on Facebook in my life. I don’t do Facebook.
The reason is probably beyond understanding for a narcissist like you. But some of us rather like our privacy, and are thus very discrete for both personal and professional reasons. Facebook isn’t the most discrete forum in the world.
You also might want to read some of the comments above and on the two other threads on this site about you. Frankly, I was one of the few defending you originally – until you showed up here acting like a world-class asshole as well as an ignorant blowhard and bully. That more than anything else convinced me that you were full of crap and that I should take a closer look at the facts. And the verifiable facts of your case – as opposed to the tales you try pass off as the truth – are disturbing as hell.
Oh, and MCPO is correct above. While mere lying about receiving decorations is protected speech absent intent to defraud, actually wearing decorations you never earned is a different thing entirely – even according to the 9th Circus.
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=31843
So in the future, you really might want to think twice about wearing all those Army unit decorations you seem to love wearing. Per the official DA list of unit decorations, your units in Vietnam don’t seem to have been awarded those unit decorations for service in Vietnam. That means you were wearing them due to unit lineage vice personal entitlement. In plain language, that means you don’t rate them as permanent personal awards – and they come off your damn uniform when you leave the unit. And they’re also NOT on your DD214. Wear then again an you’ll be in violation of fully enforceable Federal law.
In short: once again, Wittgenfeld, you either don’t know what in the hell you’re talking about and/or are deliberately lying. In either case that’s nothing new.
September 2nd, 2012 at 10:39 am
I like how you dingleberrys try to poooo poooo the VA Medical Chief’s legal advise. That is funny because who ever goes down on here will be doomed by her legitamate findings, legal report, and recommendations to the procecuter. Done deal.
Yes your names and pictures identifying most of you are in her paper file too. She does have access to any VA Computer she wants… And she wants to see all of you in jail. Got that picture yet..?
…… READ THIS AND UNDERSTAND IT…..
this law is the demise of the “STOLEN VALOR MAFIA”
The National Conference of State Legislatures (NCSL)
State Cyberstalking and Cyberharassment Laws
Overview.
Many states have enacted “cyberstalking” or “cyberharassment” laws or have laws that explicitly include electronic forms of communication within more traditional stalking or harassment laws. In addition, recent concerns about protecting minors from online bullying or harassment have led states to enact “cyberbullying” laws.
This information identifies only state laws that include specific references to electronic communication. However, other state laws may still apply to those who harass, threaten or bully others online, although specific language may make the laws easier to enforce. This chart classifies the various state laws addressing these three different types of online behaviors, as described hereon.
Cyberstalking.
Cyberstalking is the use of the Internet, email or other electronic communications to stalk, and generally refers to a pattern of threatening or malicious behaviors. Cyberstalking may be considered the most dangerous of the three types of Internet harassment, based on a posing credible threat of harm. Sanctions range from misdemeanors to felonies.
Cyberharassment.
Cyberharassment differs from cyberstalking in that it is generally defined as not involving a credible threat. Cyberharassment usually pertains to threatening or harassing email messages, instant messages, (or to blog entries or websites dedicated solely to tormenting an individual). Some states approach cyberharrassment by including language addressing electronic communications in general harassment statutes, while others have created stand-alone cyberharassment statutes.
Cyberbullying.
Cyberbullying is the willful and repeated use of cell phones, computers, and other electronic communication devices to harass and threaten others. New-media and instant messaging, chat rooms, e-mails, and messages posted on websites and blogs are the most common methods of this (new twist of bullying). Cyberbullies can quickly spread messages and images to a vast audience, (while remaining anonymous, often making them difficult to trace). It is challenging to characterize cyberbullying in legislation however, language has included electronic communication, (cyberbullying, electronic and internet intimidation).
Cyber harassment laws in Florida are clear;
but the definition of harassment allows for some interpretation in each case. According to Florida criminal statute, harass means “to engage in a course of conduct (directed at a specific person that causes substantial emotional distress in such person and serves no legitimate purpose). This is often done through stalking, assault, written threats, battery and threatening/extortion.
Harassment through stalking;
occurs when a person or group willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyber stalks another person, which results in (emotional stress on the victim). A first degree misdemeanor stalking charge is punishable by up to one year in jail and fines up to $1,000. Aggravated stalking occurs when a (credible threat of death or bodily injury for a person or their family) members occurs. This is considered a third degree felony and the harasser can serve up to 15 years in prison and be fined up to $10,000. As the Florida criminal statue points out, “If you commit stalking and it is in violation of an injunction for protection, you will be charged with aggravated stalking even if there was no threat made.”
Harassment Through Extortion;
threatening is commonly done through extortion, verbal or (written threats regarding injuring a person, their property or their reputation). It also includes (threatening to expose secrets if money does not change hands or as motivation to get the victim to do something). Threatening someone is a serious criminal charge. According to Florida criminal statute, threatening/extortion is a second degree felony and is punishable by up to 30 years in prison and fines up to $10,000.
Harassment through written threats;
harassment through written threats include any kind of (written communication that threatens harm or death of a person or a member of the person’s family). This is referred by those in the legal industry as Florida’s harassment law. Florida criminal statutes state that this is a second degree felony punishable by up to 30 years in prison and fines up to $10,000.
Cyberstalking;
cyberstalking consists of engaging (in a course of conduct to communicate, or to cause to be communicated, words, images, or language by or through the use of electronic mail or electronic communication, directed at a specific person, causing substantial emotional distress to that person and serving no legitimate purpose). In other words, cyberstalking can be defined as (any Internet or electronic communication that causes unnecessary emotional harm). Harassing emails fall under the definition of stalking by meeting the definitions for harassment, course of conduct and credible threat.
Consequences of Cyberstalking;
the legal consequences for stalking, including cyberstalking, vary by the severity of the situation. By definition in the Florida statutes, stalking in the form of repeatedly following, harassing or cyberstalking is a first-degree misdemeanor. When a person commits all of the previously mentioned offenses, and also makes a credible threat against the victim or her family, the crime becomes a third-degree felony. Stalking crimes, including cyberstalking, have the potential to land the perpetrator a lengthy prison sentence.
You jack-off self-imposed uniform policers are guilty of everything on this legallity post.Vigillanties are criminals too.
Please go call the cops, please…!
September 2nd, 2012 at 10:45 am
In the real world… you weenies don’t get to say shit about what I wear or don’t wear. None item to EVERYBODY ELSE.
See how stupid you people are.
Even the Veteran teenagers can wear all your shit and you can’t say shit… how funny is that. More proof to the judge and jury for me…
September 2nd, 2012 at 10:52 am
I feel like jumping out of an airplane this morning…. any of you punks want to go with me…? Oh yah… I forgot you assholes are not qualified…. just me…. Ha ha ha ha ha….
September 2nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Hey Dumbass, if you didnt come here and comment with your dumbassery this page would have been buried just like all the rest of the poser elites pages. Instead, you choose to come back here and make a complete jackass of yourself. I doubt that you have told your “legal team” that you instigate the behavior that youre trying to have prosecuted. Not sure how it works in Florida but most every other place that I have been you cant just keep coming back and egging “harassment” on and expect the law to do something about it. And the making of threats over the internet (such as the ones in your comments that are too numerous to count)is also a crime fuckwit. So keep making those threats, Im sure someone is documenting them somewhere.
September 2nd, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Like I said, Dullass, when a google search of your name is performed, this page pops up number one, right on top.
Your douchebaggery is for all to see, with a simple search of your name.
Congrats, you should be proud.
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
@571 – Sure…you’re the only qualified skydiver here, right?
Statements like these, and your penchant for clown suits and intellectual kabuki dances…lead me to believe that your relationship with your ‘VA Medical Chief’…is another figment of your imagination. Otherwise it wouldn’t be so apparent that you’re off of whatever medications have – or should have been prescribed to you.
BTW, I don’t live far from Jonn, so please add me as a target on your mission profile…..pretty please?
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
He said his goal is to have 600 comments on this blog Jonn. I vote that you shut the blog down before it reaches that number just to piss little RTO boy off. We can always continue on the recap blog of his. Don’t give the embellishing ass-clown the satisfaction of having the blog with the most comments.BTW dilly Dallas. I’m looking for shit birds today. Are you by chance jumping anywhere in WV ?
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:24 pm
I hear that the public defender from “My Cousin Vinny” is now in private practice and available.
“Ladies and gentlemen of the ju-ju-ju-ju-ju-ju-ju-REE!”
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
@569 Hey, Dullass…all that crap you copied and pasted has absolutely no applicability to this blog and the comments that people make on it. Obviously you didn’t read AND comprehend it, or you would have realized that.
Where’d you get your GED certificate, out of a Crackerjack box?
September 2nd, 2012 at 2:46 pm
So… here we go again. The funny thing about this entire sage with Thunderingflatulence is that he brought it all on himself, by associating with known phony heroes who were themselves stalking and harrassing Veterans who had exposed them and their lies.
Dillweed when informed of the fact he was associating with known posers reaction was to turn on the Poser….. ummm no, actually his reaction was to attack the messengers.
Why in the world would he do such a thing? Why would a Decorated Veteran of the Vietnam War side with a bunch of fakes and embellishers?
I think we have all seen the size of Wittlessones ego, the absolute love affair he carries on with himself. I mean, that ego has even caused him to be “asked” to step down from his position in a National Military Organisation, as they felt he was placing his ego ahead of the org… I know, hard to believe.
So Dilly went carrying on with his new found friends South, Meyers, Fox North Star, and others… vilifying real Veterans, many of them Combat or Disabled Veterans themselves. He has attempted to harass them at work, through their chain of command in one case, and even with the VA (that was a good laugh though). He has done all this for his good friends the Posers, because they boost his incredible ego. Then we have his own embellishments…. the claims of being a Green Beret even wearing a Green Beret on several occasions. I do not care how old the claims were, they were made, along with those of a Bronze Star w/V…Oh and the clown costume he wears that he calls a Uniform, even Privates look more squared away on their first day.
September 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Wittgenfeld: you really might want to think twice about getting law enforcement involved here, fella. Because it appears to me that you’re the one who’s on thin ice here, legally speaking.
First: as far as I know, no one here has been “cyberstalking” or “harassing” you. Rather, you’ve been the one coming here – voluntarily, and repeatedly – and making all manner of claims and insults. Claims that you’ve yet to back up in many cases. The commentary here by others is all based on (1) publicly available information, (2) information you’ve willingly provided to 3rd parties, or (3) information previously published about you. So there wouldn’t seem to be any aspect of “stalking” or invasion of privacy going on. And the fact that you keep coming here voluntarily and “stirring the pot” undercuts any case you might have for stalking. It’s hard to stalk someone when they keep seeking you out voluntarily.
On the other hand, you have reportedly tried to get others here in trouble with their employers, searched out where they work, and made veiled (and perhaps not so veiled) threats against others of taking legal action. And you have posted childish, in some cases borderline-pornographic altered photos depicting others here with whom you disagree on websites you maintain. So I do think a good case can be made that if anyone here is doing “cyberstalking”, it’s you.
However, you’ve also done worse than that. Let me quote from what you’ve posted in comment 569 above:
Harassment through written threats; harassment through written threats include any kind of (written communication that threatens harm or death of a person or a member of the person’s family). This is referred by those in the legal industry as Florida’s harassment law. Florida criminal statutes state that this is a second degree felony punishable by up to 30 years in prison and fines up to $10,000.
You’ve made comments above and elsewhere that can easily be taken as threats against others, Wittgenfeld. As one example, let me quote from your comment 554 above, where you remind everyone of the following:
“Did you guys know I am highly trained in demolitions and incenduaries…? (sic) Part of being a “trail assassin”. Look on my DD-214 and notice I am an expert rifelman (sic) too.”
The proverbial “reasonable man” could easily constitute a statement like that as a threat to life/health/property, fella. And I’d guess Florida law enforcement just might, too – especially if there’s a pattern of such statements.
I also understand that you may have made even more direct threats in other comments, and in private e-mails, to others here; I haven’t yet given all your comments and/or excerpts from your e-mails published here a close second look – yet. If so, those are even more legally problematic, as they show a possible pattern of harassing or threatening behavior. And since you presumably sent those e-mails and/or posted those comments from your home in Florida, they’re covered under Florida harassment law as threats too.
So you’re likely best advised to cool it with any legal threats, dipstick – because it looks like you may well have violated Florida harassment law multiple times yourself via communicating written threats. Which, as you so helpfully pointed out above, is a second degree felony in the state of Florida.
And, for the record: I haven’t seen anyone here communicate a threat to you, fool. Insults, yes; but not threats. But I have seen you make at least one statement that can reasonably be construed as a threat – and probably several.
Bottom line: I really don’t think you want to get law enforcement involved, Wittgenfeld. Because if you do, once they see what you’ve posted here (and have sent to others via e-mail) there’s a good chance that if anyone ends up doing the “perp walk”, it will be you – alone.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:05 am
Well GooooD.. We will all go to jail…. are you ready…?
I have proof that you idiots right here came onto my facebook and stole this picture hereon from my wife… A year ago Scooty and his gang via Lilyea and Seavey and off to POWnetwork…. Links up pretty good, I think.
I have been coersed into the American Legion Burn Pit then banned, This Ain’t Hell here, and the PoWnetwork…. part of your guys mission…
By the way…. I didn’t mention targets or missions hereon….. only you guys… I am the only “poser nominee” reak deal LRRP Ranger with enough balls to stand here and hold your asses to account.
Please do not associate me with anybody else from your bone yard of poser nominees. I have orders… That’s where you guys are screwed.. Tomorrow the “Stolen Valor Mafia” ears should be a burning… The process begins.
When I found out who and where you people operated from… I contacted your employers where you cast your cyber/harassment ploys onto honorable dicharged combat disabled Vietnam War Veterans of the elite Airborne Rangers.
Now young Seavey at the National American Legion..? He is VERY vulnerable… I told him so… Still he chooses Mil/Kooking… now the burn pit will take a whole NEW direction… I promise that.
I got Schantags Address and phone number and links
I got Lilyeas supposed address and supposed phone number and links
And I got the dddress of the American Legion National Headquarters andn ew-media perpetrator Seavey phone numbers and links.
And I have plenty of witnesses… I am set pretty good. We will see tomorrow.
Now lets hurry up and get over 600 posts in this shit-hole here so I can get some sort of real recognition for the “normal people” to peruse. hereon..
I am banking on the real people going crazy on you idiots as the VA will sink your activities hereon pronto. Promise.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:48 am
Um, DullASS? Ever heard of “Fair Use”?
And where’s your orders for your CIB, fucktard?
September 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 am
Hondo… here is a lengthy analysis of your question from another post where Dallas W. seems to be trying to align himself with more liars and frauds. The response comment is more appropriate here… It’s a longer comment, that likely is a bit disjointed (holiday and all, just finished a workout, etc), so take it for whatever it’s worth.
Hondo… I don’t believe it’s against the law to conspire to file a frivolous lawsuit, but I suppose it is a novel concept. Dallas W. often gets confused between civil lawsuits and criminal ones, but that’s a post for another time… In order to have a conspiracy, Dallas would have to have some sort of “meeting of the minds” with his co-conspirators. That is problematic because I’m not sure Dallas W. has a mind left based on his incessant and incognizant rantings. But in all seriousness, he would have to come to an agreement with someone else, in this case being other frauds. Maybe he’s bantering this type of stuff around with Michael Yon or some of the other oddballs out there who you know Dallas is lighting it up through email. Keep in mind for what it’s worth that Dallas is trying to make himself into a public figure, which completely tanks any shred of civil lawsuit he ever could have dreamed up (although he’d lose no matter what).
But… If Dallas W. and someone like Yon or even Subway Sandwich boy is conspiring together to directly ruin the reputation of TSO, Jonn, Mary, etc, and you can prove malice (which Dallas is making easier to prove by the day), then there is a lawsuit to file against the conspirators. Furthermore, if Dallas W. did cobble together some sort of frivolous lawsuit, I foresee a nice counterclaim against Dallas and his co-conspirators. Initially, the co-conspirators would likely be John Does, but discovery would open up all his emails, etc, which would identify who Dallas has been communicating with. Of course, in the end, how much can Dallas be worth, but in my experience, the louder and crazier one hems and haws, the weaker the case that person has.
September 3rd, 2012 at 11:35 am
Awww, so cute- he turned “milkook” into a verb. The Yawn is strong in you.
Tell me, WGF, is it true what they say about small hands? We all know Mikey has small hands and, well, you’re so close to him now, you can share with us. We’re veritable friends, right?
September 3rd, 2012 at 11:49 am
Thinking about it a bit more… I can see some sort of criminal conspiracy, depending on the jurisdictions involved. This would have to be very extreme. Assuming the motive for Dallas et al is to deflect from protected speech re: commentary on their military service, which make no mistake that what Jonn/Mary/TSO are doing is all protected. Dallas et al would have to engage in a really significant plan of harassment and coercion in their efforts to stop the commentary. Basically, Dallas et al would agree that they would levy all sorts of actions to coerce the victims into ceasing their rights to free speech. Such actions could include frequent calls to employers/home/friends/associates, letters, threats of all kinds, and even frivolous lawsuits. Much of this apparently is happening right now through Dallas’s actions. If he conspired with someone else to carry out a malicious plan of coercion and harassment, then conceivable Dallas and his co-conspirators could be investigated and possible charged criminally. Again, this would likely need to be very extreme for any law enforcement agency to investigate. But throwing it out there for what it’s worth.
September 3rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Those who can and are willing, do. Those who can’t or are unwilling, threaten.
September 3rd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
I still think he’s just pissed he lost to Dildo.
September 3rd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Waaaaaah everybody is calling me out on my bullshit…poor widdle me!
“THE RTO COMMETH”
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:03 pm
For once he got it right. We may just be making progress here..
Thank you & welcome home ” RTO ” boy Dallas Wittgenfeld !
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Oh shit. I didn’t see the 31 instead of the 41. Dang troll accounts ..lol
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
JAGC, I have the documentation to prove the conspiracy. He had others send emails to work, associates of mine, friends, family members and even other folks engaged in other non-profilts. One of his emailers was his friend Arthur South, himself a phony SEAL, who identified himself as Wittgenfeld’s “uncompensated veterans advocate” who attempted to interfere with my work. He’s been throwing these comments and emails far and wide, which is why I am actually hoping for a law suit.
You need to hurry up though Dallas, I leave for Africa for a few weeks later this week, so if you want to do this anytime soon, you better move on it. You have to serve papers on me, and I doubt you have anyone in Dakar that can do that.
September 4th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Clearly this “Dallas” guy has some serious mental issues. I’ll be nice because I was taught to be nice to special needs individuals. Perhaps he needs some mental counselling?
September 6th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
To let you folks know…Dallas was recently kicked out of The Special Forces Assoc. for the very reasons this thread contains…The letter Dallas received is now posted in many places. Maybe Dallas would like to post the letter himself…or I can do it for him…heh heh heh
Tough shit for you, Dallas…
Legit Ranger
September 6th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
No need, RagnarKane75. Jonn already did that as yesterday’s Public Service Announcement:
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=31899
September 6th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Just OUTDAMNSTANDING. Sure got awful damn quiet…………
September 6th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
No, he popped up elsewhere…unfortunately.
September 7th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Oh DullAss … where are you?
September 10th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Where could he be? Perhaps he ended it all. A malfunctioned main and no reserve. It would be quite tragic.
September 10th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
LEGAL NOTICE:
The previous message was satirical in nature. It was not intended to harrass, bully, make fun of, or offend anyone.
PROCECUTORIALLY SPEAKING:
These posts can not be used in the kort of law.
September 30th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
It is so quiet in here, you could hear a gnat fart!
599 … Who wants to break the 600 mark?
October 8th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Hondo, Scotty & a few others continually ask Dallas for records – I understand that, that’s a reasonable request. I do know for a fact that Dallas has been on the horn to NPRC to do just that – and, from personal experience I can tell you St Louis ain’t the fastest people on earth-just saying.
My question to all of you is very simple yet very powerful. And I’ve asked Scott this question before and like Dallas sometimes, he refuses to answer. I’m hoping since I have never been uncivil maybe some others will attempt to answer my question. Here goes:
EVERY single RTO who served in a Vietnam LRP/LRRP/RANGER team was awarded a CIB. Let me repeat that. EVERY single one. Every enlisted LRRP/LRP/RANGER was awarded the MOS 11F2P/11F3P/11F4P regardless of any other MOS’ previously awarded. This is common knowledge in the Vietnam LRP/LRRP/RANGER community.
Why is it then, given these facts, have you only asked Dallas Wittgenfeld to produce his orders? Why does Scotty and some others constantly make reference to being an RTO? I once explained that in a LRP/Ranger unit being an RTO was a position within the team. It’s not like in a 6 man LRP team you had 5 grunts and…. the…radio operator. Jesus Christ guys….Use your heads here. Any chance you hate the guy so much that common sense went out the window?
Another thing…During Vietnam, very few enlisted men serving in Vietnam Ranger units actually attended the Army Ranger School at Ft. Benning. The reason for this was quite simple and Hondo provided at some length the process of assignments for individual replacements during Vietnam. There simply wasn’t time nor an existing ranger replacement training process stateside at that time. Ranger replacements/trainees were required to complete an in-country training program that were organized and run by each individual Vietnam Ranger company. Yet, some of you have very incorrectly stated that if these men didn’t have a tab then they are not REAL Rangers.
Well, the 75th Ranger Regiment Association disagrees you who feel that way quite passionately. Regular membership is afforded to any individual who served honorably in any of the predecessor or successor units, or who is presently serving in a current or successor unit listed in ARTICLE V of the Bylaws.
ARTICLE V
COMPOSITION
SECTION 1: The Association shall consist of various classes of members, as defined in ARTICLE VIII. The qualified members of the units listed below are considered eligible for ‘Regular’ membership. Also eligible are members of predecessor and successor units to those listed below, as well as all past, present or future units authorized the colors and coat of arms established for the Merrill’s Marauders. In addition to the unit eligibility sited above, and subject to approval of a General Membership vote, additional units from various sized elements, who produce evidence that they operated or served as a LRRP / LRP unit, may be eligible as part of their parent units under their existing Unit Directors.
SECTION 2: Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol
A. V Corp (LRRP)
B. VII Corp (LRRP)
C. 9th Inf. Div. (LRRP)
D. 25th Inf. Div. (LRRP)
E. 196th Inf. Bde. (LRRP)
F. 1st Cav. Div. (LRRP)
G. 1st Inf. Div. (LRRP)
H. 4th Inf. Div. (LRRP)
I. 101st Abn. Div., 1st Bde. (LRRP)
J. 199th Inf. Bde. (LRRP)
K. 173rd Abn. Bde. (LRRP)
L. 3rd Inf. Div. (LRRP)
SECTION 3: Long Range Patrol
A. Co D (LRP) 17th Inf.
B. Co E (LRP) 20th Inf.
C. Co E (LRP) 30th Inf.
D. Co E (LRP) 50th Inf.
E. Co F (LRP) 50th Inf.
F. Co E (LRP) 51st Inf.
G. Co F (LRP) 51st Inf.
H. Co E (LRP) 52nd Inf.
I. Co F (LRP) 52nd Inf.
J. Co C (LRP) 58th Inf.
K. Co E (LRP) 58th Inf.
L. Co F (LRP) 58th Inf.
M. 70th Inf. DET (LRP)
N. 71st Inf. DET (LRP)
O. 74th Inf. DET (LRP)
P. 78th Inf. DET (LRP)
Q. 79th Inf. DET (LRP)
R. Co D (LRP) 151st Inf.
SECTION 4: 75th Infantry Ranger Companies
A. Co A (RANGER) 75th Inf.
B. Co B (RANGER) 75th Inf.
C. Co C (RANGER) 75th Inf.
D. Co D (RANGER) 75th Inf.
E. Co E (RANGER) 75th Inf.
F. Co F (RANGER) 75th Inf.
G. Co G (RANGER) 75th Inf.
H. Co H (RANGER) 75th Inf.
I. Co I (RANGER) 75th Inf.
J. Co K (RANGER) 75th Inf.
K. Co L (RANGER) 75th Inf.
L. Co M (RANGER) 75th Inf.
M. Co N (RANGER) 75th Inf.
N. Co O (RANGER) 75th Inf.
O. Co P (RANGER) 75th Inf.
P. Co D (RANGER) 151st Inf.
SECTION 5: Vietnamese Ranger Advisors BDQ
All units of the Biet Dong Quan (BDQ).
SECTION 6: 75th Ranger Regiment
A. 1st Battalion (Ranger) 75th Inf., activated in 1974.
B. 2nd Battalion (Ranger) 75th Inf., activated in 1974.
C. 3rd Battalion (Ranger) 75th Inf., activated in 1984.
D. 75th Ranger Regiment HQ’s Company, activated in 1984.
E. 75th Ranger Regiment, designated in 1986, and all subordinate, assigned and attached units.
SECTION 7: Long Range Surveillance Any Long Range Surveillance Company or Detachment that can trace its’ lineage to, or is currently assigned to a Brigade or larger element that was deployed to Vietnam.
No where does it say you have to have a tab to be a member or be called a real Ranger.
Additionally, D/151 and later D/75 provided personnel to serve as adviser’s to the Thai’s. I personally know of the man that Wittgenfeld replaced as the Ranger Thai Adviser, SSG Carl DeLong-D/151, Indiana Army National Guard.
In 1999, 2000 and 2001 I went to the National Archives to do research on D/151 LRP/Ranger and photocopied every since awards orders that I could find. They did not contain UNIT orders for CIB’s. They were all individual orders for individual awards. I saw Wittgenfeld’s purple hearts and ARCOM w/V. One of D/151′s most decorated men, Indiana Ranger, Darrell Holder, went with me on my last trip. We spent a friggin week doing nothing but copying orders. Not the funnest thing I’ve ever done. At least I’ve provided someone who you can contact if you doubt me in the least. By the way, Darrel Holder was a school trained, MOS awaderded 05B who has a Silver Star, a purple heart and last but not least, a CIB. When Darrell Holder was stationed to a medical company at a hospital in Pennsylvania, he wore crossed rifles, with blue discs and a blue cord to go along with his shiny CIB. If you go to D/151′s website, you can look up and find the actual orders for what Darrell did to earn his Silver Star. He was originally recommended for a DSC and was downgraded at IIFFV. I personally think he merited the Medal of Honor. I wish to hell that Scotty would tell Mr. Holder, a school trained 05B RTO to produce his orders.
In all fairness to most of you, Darrell would not say a word. He’d just show you his orders (pretty sure Darrell doesn’t have a copy of his CIB orders) and smile. I sometimes if Dallas had done the above he wouldn’t have pissed off so many of you, but, as I’ve learned over the years, that’s just Dallas. Not saying its right, just saying it is.
If I can ever be of help regarding this matter I am always available. I will even volunteer to call in a favor from Dr Rich Boylan at NARA II who also has some connections at NPRC and ask if I can’t get some unit CIB orders and the like if it would help?
I really hope this thing gets resolved..
All the best,
Tim Ramey
Additionally, D/151 and later D/75 provided personnel to serve as adviser’s to the Thai’s. I personally know of the man that Wittgenfeld replaced as the Ranger Thai Adviser,SSG Carl DeLong-D/151, Indiana Army National Guard.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:39 am
I can tell you St Louis ain’t the fastest people on earth-just saying.
Why would he have to go through St. Louis if he has his orders? I’m gonna go out on a limb here and state for the record that pretty much EVERYBODY who gave a shit about their service kept copies (or the originals) of the “data dump” that we got when we got out. I know I did. Hell, I still medical records from my nuke physical and dental records from boot camp, not to mention my personal awards/LOC’s and “orders” (actually a certificate but still goes into service record) of my “Qualified in Submarines.” We’re talking nearly three decades ago in these cases.
They did not contain UNIT orders for CIB’s. They were all individual orders for individual awards.
So again, going through St. Louis is a non-issue.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:21 am
“So again, going through St. Louis is a non-issue.”
St. Louis contains unit records, unit orders, unit rosters and morning reports. NARA II at College Park, MD, only had individual orders.
If I wanted to get a hold of unit orders for CIB’s, NPRC would have them for D/151.
Oh, and I guess I’m one of those guys who didn’t give a shit cause all I have is my DD-214.
Life does go on after the service, guys. Though I was proud to serve and I’m still proud I served, I have to admit the Army was the most demeaning thing I ever experienced.
Nothing quite like being told what to do by a guy who can’t speak English and wasn’t 1/32nd as intelligent as me. Wave your flag to someone who cares…
October 8th, 2012 at 10:50 am
It sounds like Wittenwhatever now has a literate advocate who is trying a new approach to the vexing issue of assholishness.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:51 am
@600.
That is one of the longest posts I have seen.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Here’s what I know…trail assassin RTOs can kill you with a flick of the long whip antenna. I don’t doubt that Mr. Wittgenfeld is a Ranger in association qualifying criteria or that he earned a CIB. I know far too many fellows in this go round that got their CIBs for riding around in air conditioned Strykers and accidentally shooting a road sign or two. The distinction is in whether they are nincompoops or not. An austere service record is no insulation against becoming a feminine hygiene product.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:03 am
@600 and 602.
The problem for me is the personality change that seeps through your comments. The first of your comments displays a thoughtful, deliberate, detached, almost studious approach. Then there’s feedback and voila!, a strikingly different picture emerges. For me, your guy is oddly clownish, something of a cross between Bozo and Liberace. I couldn’t care less about his bona fides at this point. Good luck.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:24 am
According to Mr. Ramey’s Facebook profile, he lives in the Philippines. The IP address of that comment is from Philippines, for what it’s worth. It still doesn’t explain why there are news reports about Whittgenfeld that say he has medals that he didn’t earn. Whittgenfeld has been telling us for months that he has copies of his orders for the CIB and I haven’t seen them yet. His excuse for wearing the green beret at the Vietnam Wall has dissipated before our very eyes. Nor does Mr Ramey’s note mention why Whittgenfeld has formed some sort of Stolen Valor cabal with phony SEALs Arther South and Ray Hall, along with who knows who else to combat these charges against him through intimidation and personal threats instead of producing credible proof like a more rational person might. While I appreciate Mr Ramey’s visit and taking the time to comment, he hasn’t said anything that we didn’t already know through our own research.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:25 am
600 + comments later and nothing has changed! Every one here has in one form or another thanked this fool for his service. We did have a couple of questions based upon what we collectively know, or think we know, about record keeping in the Army.
Instead of simply clarifying the issue, we got mega doses of attitude from an arrogant prick. And now we have another live one in here telling us that it is we who have the problem?
Only for those completely detached from reality.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:25 am
I do NOT agree with everything that Dallas Wittgenfeld has said and done. I do, however, feel for a variety of reasons that Dallas has been very unfairly treated.
Let’s establish from the get-go that my mere disagreement with some of you does not entitle either you or me to engage in personal attacks of any kind. Let’s get that straight. Many of you, and I won’t say who, have used words, sentences and paragraphs that are very child like. Dallas may tolerate it but I can assure you that I will not.
I am the son of a Ranger School graduate who served in Vietnam with D/151 and many years later HHC, 75th Ranger Regiment. Dad was the Ranger Buddy of Dallas’ team leader, SSG Mad Max Anderson. Dallas served as Max’s RTO in team 4-1. Dad and Max both passed in 2010 and I miss both of them dearly. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=61259710
Max and my Dad both suffered from severe PTSD as does Dallas. I think if Dallas was a better communicator he would have fared a hell of a lot better with a lot of you.
I’ve researched the history of D/151 for many years. Though its probably too late, I’d like to be of service, if possible, to help resolved this issue – though, I realize for many of you, that’s not possible.
Still I will do what I can.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:33 am
@ Tim … read the words of Dallas before you enter here and attempt to scold anyone. I deeply appreciate the service of your dad and buddy. But you are way out of line! VR, The MC.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:37 am
I do not see how the fact that I moved to the Philippines in 2010 has any bearing whatsoever on anything? What exactly was your purpose in bringing that to light, for what it’s worth?
Oh and for the record, Mr Lilyea, some of the material that you’ve “researched” was written by me, for what’s it worth. I know for a fact that you already knew that but didn’t include that fact in your post, for what it’s worth.
I do so hope that you and I will get off on the right foot, but the manner in which you’ve started has already caused me alarm.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Master Chief, please show me my exact words that you consider to be deemed “scolding.”
No disrespect intended, just wanted to start off by saying I’m not going to tolerate be treated in the same manner as Dallas has been treated for no other reason that I don’t agree with some of the things that have been posted here.
If you don’t like that, Master Chief, you can always ignore me.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:43 am
@611
If you’re referring to Jonn’s #607, I believe that it was done as a way of semi-corroborating you are who you say you are.
What often happens in a “busted” thread is that people will jump in claiming to be the person’s brother, or buddy from their unit, or former CO, or Pastor, or whomever. Then they start extolling the virtues of the fraud. It’s an old game and Jonn was, I believe, confirming that you’re not playing it. That it appears you are a real person, not Dallas in disguise, who seems to be posting from the Philippines. I say “seems”, not to offer insult, but because I know how blindingly easy it is to fake a IP.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Just curious, as to the Green Beret issue, having known Dallas a lot longer that all of you put together, I remember when Dallas wore the Black Beret, and having looked at that photo again, are you guys sure that isn’t a black beret?
You guys are aware that the Rangers wore a black beret before the liberal democrat idiot Shinseki gave it to everyone?
October 8th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Nik: very good point and one I hadn’t thought about. I thank you for taking the time to explain.
Apologies to John.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Tim, # 1 I am not big on ignoring someone who has taken a direct shot at me. # 2 read what he has written and analylize his documented behavior. NO credit for PTSD. VR, MC
October 8th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Ramey: I merely mentioned that you were writing from the Philippines because we have so many people coming in here saying they’re someone when they’re not those people. So, I was letting everyone know that it was probably you writing. It’s not like we’re all going to mount up and fly to the Philippines on the next flight to confront you, FFS.
It’s clear to me that you came here looking for a fight judging by your subsequent comments. You’re taking everything as a slight or a threat. So far, I’ve seen people only being respectful because you initiated this conversation in that manner. But when you start saying we’re not as bright as you, you can only expect the same sort of responses.
October 8th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
I don’t personally know of Dallas’ association with the phony SEALS, not that I doubt you. But I am going to make it a personal mission to use my contacts to get a hold of the CIB orders, if they exist, and I will inform you of my findings whether they hurt or help Dallas.
My friendship, and/or association will not in anyway stop me from reporting the truth. If Dallas is the real deal I will report it, if he is a fraud I will also report the same.
October 8th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
The caption of the picture says he’s wearing his “Special Forces Association beret”. I doubt it’s black.
October 8th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Mr. Lilyea, I was speaking of my own direct experiences in the military and not referring to you. Attention to detail, Sir!
In my experience only, sir, beginning as a 17 year old Infantryman, I was immediately led by someone who couldn’t speak the English language and was dumber than a box of rocks. Personally I found that very common in the Infantry. Please show me where I insinuated anything other than that explanation.
And I will NOT feel bad for insulting the intelligence of those I found to be lacking – which was quite many.
As to your comments that I came here looking for a fight, I could say the same thing about you. You will notice that after being informed of your motives for the Philippines comment, I apologized.
You’re free to silence me or “moderate” me as you did Dallas.
October 8th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Every enlisted LRRP/LRP/RANGER was awarded the MOS 11F2P/11F3P/11F4P regardless of any other MOS’ previously awarded. This is common knowledge in the Vietnam LRP/LRRP/RANGER community.Show me the award letter that Dallas received for the MOS 11F2P.11F3P or 11E4P even an 11B MOS. And then show us the 18F special forces award letter that dilly Dallas claims. And then show me the Bronze Star award letter that Dilly Dallas claimed. The 12 months that Dallas was in RVN He help the MOS of 05B2-0 & 05B2-P NOTHING ELSE . I don’t give a flying fuck how many patrols that he went on in a Ranger team. He was not a LRRP or LRP as your own damn history Bio . on the 151st clearly shows Ramey. Now we have given this lying SOB credit where credit is due. and by God we have busted his ass on credit he is claiming that is not due.Straight up. We are allowing this ass-clown to claim what is on his FOIA .. Nothing more, Nothing less.HE is NOT a LRRP/LRP….He is NOT infantry…HE is NOT Special Forces…HE did NOT earn the Bronze Star..Any ???’s Look at his FOIA !!
October 8th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Man, this thread is like the old Halloween movies….you just can’t kill that b4stard….shoot it, burn it, shove it down a mineshaft it just keeps coming back to life….
I guess it’s the gift that just keeps giving…
October 8th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
@622
Would you characterize it more as a weeble wobble, no matter how many times you knock it down, it comes back up?
Or would you say it’s more like digital herpes where it pops up, is irritating and kinda nasty for a while, then it just dies down only to pop back up another day?
October 8th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Damn, he nearly had me. Then he went and wrote, “Attention to detail, Sir!” Rats. Just another interloper and apologist for crud.
October 8th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
The latter probably hits closer to home, even though the former is entirely more amusing.
October 8th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
The only reason Whittgenfeld is moderated is because he started spamming the blog trying to recruit phonies to his stolen valor cabal. When he cut and pasted the same text twenty times on twenty different discussions of stolen valor criminals, I cut back his ability to participate. Of course, when he lies about me and my crew, no one is able to dispute it since him and Arther South on their multitude of blogs don’t allow comments.
If you read my initial post on Whittgenfeld (waaaaaay up at the top of this page), all I did was present the information that was available. Whittgenfeld then emailed me threatening legal action and physical harm. Like every other valor thief we’ve had on here. And then he started making fun of Mary at POW Network BECAUSE she is a widow. And then he started making threats towards her.
I’m sure he doesn’t treat you like that, since you seem to be the sole person on the planet that he’s befriended who doesn’t lie about your service.
October 8th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
I’ve never seen or heard Dallas make any claim that he was awarded a BSM/w V. I’ve never seen a photo of him wearing a BSM w/V. All I’ve seen is a news paper report written by someone other than Dallas that says he was awarded a BSM w/V.
Epic fail, Scotty!
Typical Marine arrogance of trying to explain Army and/or Ranger vernacular to a former soldier and Vietnam War researcher. He was not a member of a unit designated LRP/or LRRP. Bravo!
Is there anyone on the face of the earth other than your ignorant, arrogant ass who would have the gall to claim that the mission of the Brigade and Division Ranger Companies was anything other than Long Range Reconnaissance Patrols (LRRP) or that the mission of the three Field Force Ranger companies were Long Range Patrols (LRP). Hundreds of men who served in Vietnam Ranger companies call themselves/consider themselves LURPS.
You still haven’t answered the fucking question, Scotty! Why were ALL 05B’s RTO who served in LRP/LRRP/RANGER units awarded CIB’s? All, meaning everyone!
Answer: Because they were all OJT’d the MOS’ 11F as either a primary or secondary MOS. That’s why Dallas’ 214 and his FOIA mean nothing to me because I know my history and you do not. I have forgotten more about Vietnam war history than you will ever know. I have seen MULTIPLE DD-214′s from members of D/151 that had errors. Do a search on the ABCMR and there is an actual case of a D/151 guy who filed an application in front of the board because some clerk didn’t put his CIB on his 214. The fucking ABCMR approved his request but did so with faulty reasoning!
Record keeping was notoriously inept during Vietnam.
You are a total and complete ass clown who doesn’t know SHIT about anything to do with the history of the Rangers/Lurps in Vietnam and you never will.
You are not that bright, Scotty.
Jesus, you’d think if the American Legion was going to finance guys to do this stolen valor thing they would choose someone other than this mental midget, Scotty….
Well, they are located in Indiana….
October 8th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
On 1 FEB 69, the Department of the Army (DA) reorganized all regular army LRP units to “letter” Ranger companies of the 75th Infantry. DA also issued a general order that increased the authorized strength of D/151 from 214 to 230 personnel. This action increased the number of patrol platoons from three to four, increased the number of patrol personnel from five to six, and authorized a Major as commander. The order also changed D/151′s parenthetical designation from “LRP” to “RANGER.”
October 8th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
And you need to open your eyes and read the half dozen newspaper articles dating from 1972 to 1976 that clearly shows Dallas claiming the BS and of being a former Green Beret.
That’s. And the best you can come back with is insult me because I’m a Marine ? How simple minded are you Ramey ?
October 8th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Thank you for the kind word, John, but do you really think that I could have ever gotten away with stolen valor with a Dad like mine? He would have fucking killed me.
For the record, I earned NO medals and one service ribbon-the ASR. I didn’t serve in combat, earned nothing, nada, zip, squat. No daring feats in foreign streets! I did get many blisters and did many, many pushups!
I did nothing, I earned nothing.
But guess what, my 214 says my MOS of 11B10 but my SIDPERS and my 2-1 says my MOS was 11B1P and that I graduated from Airborne School, which I did not, I got hurt and never returned. But according to Scotty I’m airborne qualified because I have orders and a 2-1 that says I am, even though I know I’m not.
I must be the first case of REVERSE stolen valor.
I’m guilty. Put me on your list, Scotty…
October 8th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
God it makes my dick hard when Scotty quotes my research (628).
October 8th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
And as for everyone who held the RTO MOS receiving the CIB in not 100% accurate either. I’ve researched cases of it going either way.Another line of your Bullshit that your not backing up with facts.
What, The Great self proclaimed Historian Tim Ramey of the 151st Airborne Indiana Rangers said it . So it has to be fact..
Grow up idiot.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
You need to check your facts, there, Tim. The American Legion doesn’t give us a red penny for this blog. No one pays for our research. The American Legion has no connection whatsoever to the things that get published here, especially about stolen valor. Whittgenfeld frequently gets mixed up on who is who here. He even publishes pictures of my friend The Sniper claiming it’s TSO. Both of their wives are confused about that conflagration. It was a topic of discussion a few weeks back when we all got together.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Kinda looks like you just plain don’t know what the fuck your talking about all around here \ this morning Ramey..
October 8th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Its goes even deeper than that oh not so bright one. It wasn’t just RTO’s, there were cooks, MP’s, clerks, mechanics, all sorts of weird MOS.’ If they completed Ranger Replacement training, they were awarded the 11 Fox MOS. ALL OF THEM.
One cook, Jimmy Worley, went on one patrol, ONE patrol. He was OJT’d 11F and presto! CIB!
There was no one who served in any of the patrol platoons in the Vietnam Ranger companies who did not hold or was not later awarded an Infantry MOS as a primary or secondary MOS. Not one.
If they served in the commo platoon, or headquaters platoon they didn’t get one. IF they went to the field on missions they ALL did. End of story.
Scotty, do not pass go, do not collect $200 you are wrong again.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Self-proclaimed? The only thing I’ve ever proclaimed is that I did research. No where have I said I’m the official historian for D/151. Many others have said that, but never me.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”
“A half-truth is the most cowardly of lies”
“Every violation of truth is not only a sort of suicide in the liar, but is a stab at the health of human society.”
“If you wish to strengthen a lie, mix a little truth in with it.”
These quotes have always remained with me years after learning who the authors were. The most telling was always “A single lie destroys a whole reputation for integrity.” The problem with America today is we forgive the people we agree with their lies, while trying to spotlight and enlarge the lies of those with whom we disagree while forgetting a simple fact that a liar is a liar is a liar. The man who lies to himself will lie to his family, his friends, his colleagues without concern for their feelings when the truth is discovered.
If you don’t doubt the association with phony seals, what difference do the parts of his story that are true make in your mind? If you don’t agree with everything Dallas has said and done (which leads me to believe you don’t agree with the parts where he lied) then those parts that are true will still remain tarnished by the lies. The truth always remains the truth, but the honorable part of your life is easily undone by the lies you tell, and those lies become the new face of your life. At that point no one knows when you are lying or being honest, you have lost your integrity. Setting the record straight only works in the absence of lies, not in addition to the lies.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Mr. Ramey… I am curious as to whether you are dispensing as much enthusiasm on this topic with the Special Forces Association as you are in engaging in this little contest with some on here. As I’m sure you are aware, on 6 August 2012, the SFA expelled Mr. Wittgenfeld from the organization on a preliminary finding for conduct that is “more severe than outright fraud.” This includes false claims.
Finally, and I couldn’t pass this one up… You say: “Thank you for the kind word, John, but do you really think that I could have ever gotten away with stolen valor with a Dad like mine?”
I know he can speak for himself, but “John” is actually “Jonn.” Attention to detail, sir! (really couldn’t resist).
October 8th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
John I don’t believe I ever mentioned your name as being financed by the legion? I know sometimes Dallas and others don’t pick up on your mistakes but I do.
Nice try though….
October 8th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Do we all now need to visit docs for meds???
October 8th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Ramey, I dont give a flying shit if he is legit as far as his CIB is concerned. I dont give a flying shit if he did OJT into 11B and was ABN qualified. What I care about is that Dallas is a turd of epic proportions. And the lies that he has told have brought what could well have been earned legitimately into question. I also care that he and his little cult harass a woman and poke fun at the fact that she lost her husband. Even if he had earned the BSM w/V hes still a fucking turd, a simple medal doesnt absolve him of that. He chose to be a turd and to lie about his service. Ever heard the saying that 1 aw shit out weighs 100 attaboys? Thats where Dumbass is at.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
@639
There’s two ways this sentence could be read: “Jesus, you’d think if the American Legion was going to finance guys to do this stolen valor thing they would choose someone other than this mental midget, Scotty….”
1. It could be read as though you were calling Scotty a mental midget.
2. It could be that you’re remarking to Scotty that someone else is a mental midget. Given that you’re mostly interacting with Jonn and Scotty, if you were talking to Scotty about someone, it’s reasonable to suspect you were talking about Jonn.
Your sentence was somewhat ambiguous. Then again, I’m just a Marine. What do I know?
October 8th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
JAGC:
1) Why is this termed a little contest as opposed to a big on and why a contest at all?
2) I stated in post 608 that “I do NOT agree with everything that Dallas Wittgenfeld has said and done…”
3) You’ve obviously mistaken me for someone who holds “JONN,” Scotty, you and the rest of the valor vultures in high regard. I do not. Not to be mean but I don’t know you and so far I’m not that impressed.
4) As to the SFA actions, I find it quite peculiar that JONN’s words were almost identical to the findings of the SFA board. It’s almost as…wait a minute, as if people from this site had fed information to the SFA. No, I must be mistaken, that could have never happened, right John, I mean Jon? Or I mean Jonn? Had a liberal hippie peace protestor that couldn’t come out and do the right thing and spell it John? Shit Happens.
5) I do believe that the letter states that Dallas has the right to appeal. Simply because the board found him violation doesn’t make it do. I will say I find the letter rather disturbing.
6) I see my role as defending the truth as regards to the CIB/Infantry issue with regards to Vietnam Ranger Service more so than Dallas. I don’t see anything that he wears on his uniform that he hasn’t earned. And if I’m proved wrong I’ll be the first one to admit I was wrong. I hope the reverse it true, too. But other than me, I doubt ANY of you has the honor to do so. Time will tell.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Oh and Milkooks I’m not in the fucking Army anymore, okay? I do have a first name or Mister is fine, too.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
A mental midget being financed by the American Legion. Well at least you have the mental midget part half right. As for being financed by the American Legion clearly show that you don’t complete your homework before you claim things. I receive nothing from no one. This shows more inaccurate merits to your claim Ramey. Keep yapping boy.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Ah, I see someone is drinking the Yawnboi koolaid. I hope its grape flavored.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
@644
“Milkooks”… Ok, you’ve obviously been cuddling with Michael Yawn.
” I do have a first name or Mister is fine, too.”
So is Dickhead, since you seem to want to fling shit at people.
With that being said, Dickhead, I (like many others commenting here) couldn’t give a lesser fuck about Dallass’s awards, medals, etc. That’s not my beef with him. Yeah, he served,HOOAH!, BFD. That doesn’t excuse him from acting like a total piece of shit, making threats against people on this blog (including women) and just being a general Flying Assclown.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
” Why is this termed a little contest as opposed to a big on and why a contest at all?”
This is what some may call a “pissing contest,” or “pissing match.” I was being polite. You came here knowing full well what was coming, and have been going tit-for-tat in a game of one-up the other guy. So yes, you created this contest and continue to engage in it as you sink deeper and deeper into the dreck… It’s also a “little contest” because you are not impressive or demonstrably extraordinary in any tangible manner. Not to be mean, but I only know you by what I observe here, and so far I’m not that impressed.
I’m also sensing another “Jonn/Scotty/insert name here conspiracy theorist. You know the type… someone who will malign a group of extraordinary men such as the SFA who must obviously be mindless nubs with no abilities of there own other than being at the complete whim and influence of Jonn et al.
I also mentioned that the SFA letter was a preliminary finding… again, attention to detail, sir… From my little corner of the Internet, you sound like just another self-grandizing schlump that starts off as reasonable-sounding before your true colors manifest themselves as you sink all the way to the bottom.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
@647.
Right on!
October 8th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Ok, Mr. Ramey; you lost any and all cred you had with me. How? Simply by using the code words of Dallas Wittgenfeld when he would rant on these here pages i.e. “valor vultures”, “milkooks”, “American Legion financed”, etc.
As you are so fond of saying; nice try.
As I am fond of saying; have a nice life.
I think we have given Mr. Wittgenfeld and his supporters enough ink for one day/lifetime. You can tell Dallas all about your argument here at this site, I’m sure it will give him a woody, which is what he’s after anyway. He likes the attention and I’m sure you and the rest of his supporters will give continue to give him an ample amount of it.
October 8th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Hey, Tom Raney; who is this “John” that you keep trying to engage? (In comments 615, 630, 639…. I missed that one.
I don’t give one big ratsass about what medals, Dullas Whipitnflogit has earned or not earned. I only know that he is a LIAR and a THIEF. I know this from personal experience with his heavy drop ass. He stole my intellectual property, (a photo), which in and of itself was not a big deal, but he claimed it as his, making him a thief, and followed that up with accusing me of stealing it from him, making him a liar.
October 8th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
The stupid it just hurts so bad…how does Dallas get some of the defenders he gets. It is just crazy.
October 8th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Scotty, Timmy said he’s got the hots for you. (see #631) Watch your back!
This seems to be like that annoying weed kudzu. You think you dug out all the roots, but then it rains and you look out the kitchen window and it’s climbing right back up the fence and you have to get the backhoe out again and go after it.
I have no idea why someone would come waltzing in here and start inflating this balloon again. Perhaps it was because the silence was deafening from the DW corner.
Many of the people who come to this blog and post (or not) are Vietnam vets, some in country, some of them not. I think that makes them at the vert least quite qualified to discuss that particular era with impunity.
Maligning these people because they refute your input with their own experience is ridiculous, MR. Ramey. Rebuttal is valid, but it does make you right and them wrong. Dallas Wittgenfeld has repeatedly proven himself to be a compulsive liar. He has not been treated badly, he has invited it and if you’d bother to read his own posts under Long Range Patrol41 above, you’d see that. His infantile need to be the center of attention has led him down that path. Seriously, anyone who cooks up a story about skydiving in Vietnam for the amusement of orphans at a local orphanage, while dressed as a clown, is lying in his teeth. If you can’t see that, you have a problem and it makes you look dumber than a crank on a cucumber.
But since you know so very much about Vietnam, what’s the main ingredient in Khe Sanh hash?
October 8th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
That should be ‘does not’.
October 8th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Rebuttal is valid, but it does NOT make you right and them wrong. — Corrected sentence reposted.
October 8th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
My passions don’t get inflamed by this guy to begin with, and when people step forward with well-intentioned interventions, it highlights the most exhausting problem with guys with really amazing service records going the extra distance to pad the resume.
I am extremely proud of my service. I had a lot of fun, a lot of misery, made so many friends, and had an improved outlook on the world around me. The other vets that I truly love as comrades seem to embrace the same things. I would be equally proud, and indeed, am humbled, by Mr. Wittgenfeld’s service, would it have been my own.
But how does any of that shape character? If a DD214 and orders-yet-unrevealed prove something that we’ve been missing; that Pinochio is a indeed a real boy with a human heart and soul, I have yet to see it. Humility in the face of derision (warranted or unwarranted) and calm in the face of slander are the hallmarks of a gentleman (or lady). Orders for a CIB are not going to undo threats and insults rendered to a lady.
Mr. Ramey, who stands amongst the righteous and responds with acrimony to accusations or questions? It sounds like you are saying the mere presence of awesomesauce applied liberally to a service record should confer a status beyond reproach? If, as you’ve said, you aren’t going to apologize for Wittgenfeld’s response to these matters, don’t you have to ask, what is the point? This is not an ensemble of “milkooks” looking to ruin a man; this is a chorus of people saying you cannot lie and you cannot respond with despicable hostility and then hide behind awards won, precisely because it comes at the expense of what honorable service *should* confer.
You know that, and Wittgenfeld damn well knows it, too. PTS, service records, etc., are not a place to retreat when people are caught doing something dishonorable.
October 8th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Who’s your daddy?
October 8th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
People still use myspace? Weird.
October 8th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Over there for the drinky girls, huh, Ramey?
Ang pangit mo! Inutil ka!
October 8th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Don’t fault him he’s just a love machine apparently….
http://www.myspace.com/timramey/photos/40444035#{%22ImageId%22%3A625331}
October 8th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Holy fuck…700 by midnight?
And Tim…Dullass, as the saying goes, had it all going for him, but then he had to open up his mouth and fuck it all up. Read his comments in this and other threads here. Read up on how he threatened and tried to get one of the posters/contributors here fired from his job. Read up on how he has threatened and harassed Mary Schantag to the point he’ll claim at showing up at a private event uninvited.
You really wanna piss away your goodwill and credibility defending this POS? Seriously?
October 8th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Well ain’t that precious, VOV? Guess our boy ain’t as smart as he claimed after all.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Those pictures just prove that with the right amount of money pretty girls will pose with anyone……..
October 8th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
I isn’t no rocket surgin or nothin, but Tim is good for TAH budniss. Since o930 am twoday. Dullass Wigetfield has racked up 62 addishunal hits. Wit friends like Timmy Boy who needs enemees!
October 8th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
@599 I called for someone to break 600 and God sent us a gift. Thanks Lord Jesus on High! I love TAH!
October 8th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
@599 I called for someone to break 600 and God sent us a gift … Little Timmy Boy came bearing gifts of good failth about a man who … well about a … Thanks Lord Jesus on High for bringing joy and purpose to our day! I love TAH!
October 8th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
This is the song that doesn’t end.
Yes, it goes on and on my friend.
Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,
And they’ll continue singing it forever just because…
This is the song that doesn’t end.
Yes, it goes on and on my friend.
Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,
And they’ll continue singing it forever just because…
BUT, see it could end. Dallas should simply admit to his lies and continue on with his business based on his real service.
Unfortunately, I don’t think that’s going to happen.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
@ Timmy Boy Ramey:
Good job: Google the following three words and see what pops up. –> Tim Ramey assclown
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_nf=1&cp=18&gs_id=4&xhr=t&q=Tim+Ramey+assclown&pf=p&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&oq=Tim+Ramey+assclown&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=b8685a810d33f364&biw=1366&bih=648
You made the big time.
BTW. I looked at your photos from PI. One question. Was that long time or short time?
Just curious!
October 8th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Still hasn’t answered my question about Khe Sanh hash.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
@668
Now that’s just precious!
LOL!
October 8th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
I believe I have a valid theory as to why this post erupted out of nowhere again, like fungus after a heavy rain. It goes like this:
Dullas Witlessgelding has not been getting any attention from us, and wanted to be the only one with the most posts, so he got some poor shmoe in the P.I. to come in here and try to start a fight over nothing.
That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
This hurt my brain.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
Raney’s style of writing seems slightly familiar. I’m wondering if maybe Raney travels to Thailand from time to time and might be “good buddies” with a certain well-known individual hanging out there.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
PPT Ranger, I feel your pain….
Here Timmy puts on a good starting show and I’m think USCF 2000 based on his opening moves and all the chatter…a couple of moves later and next thing you know I realize he’s a chess.com 900 player at best….
It happens at all the good tournaments, 4ssclowns playing online at chess.com beating up 12 years olds, then they go to a live tournament and get 4sswhooped in front of a crowd. It never ends well….
The first few pawns only tell us what books you’ve read, the mid-game lets us know if you’ve retained something from those books. The endgame lets us know if you understand the concepts behind the book.
October 9th, 2012 at 12:18 am
Master Chief–so we’re in his “kill zone” now? Ooooh, I’m shakin.
What’s he gonna kill us with? Pictures the doc took of him when he caught the “black gonk?”
Nearly three decades after that little slide show in Great Lakes and I still cringe at the mention of, “WHO WANTS BLUEBERRY PIE???”
October 9th, 2012 at 3:12 am
I do travel to Pattaya, Thailand from time to time. Nice place.
I sent an electronic request to NPRC this morning (asia time). I requested any unit CIB orders from September 1969 to January 1970. If and when they arrive, someone tell me who to send them to and in what format.
Gonna hold my judgement till I see the proof.
October 9th, 2012 at 3:14 am
Hang on a sec…you’re 48 years old, and have a CIB from 1969-70? Really?
Wow, I guess that’s what happens when we’re in your kill zone.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:05 am
Most CIB orders were published as unit orders for multiple members on one page. I requested unit CIB orders for D/151 for from Sep 1969 – to January 1970.
I believe that Dallas was assigned to D/151 in Sep ’69, so I’d like to see if his name is on any of the unit CIB orders. It’s a shot in the dark, but well worth a try. It doesn’t cost anything to send in a request other than faxing the authorization.
I don’t see how this will ever be resolved until we see the orders.
Haven’t seen anything from me stating that anyone was in my kill zone. Can’t you please publish where I said that?
Oh and Master Chief, short time only, I’m a cheap charlie…
October 9th, 2012 at 4:48 am
Boy, you sure are going to a great length to defend this guy, considering some of the shit he’s pulled.
Curiouser and curiouser.
But edit my previous comment regarding YOUR having a CIB. I see where you never claimed such, only that you’re going to the time, trouble, and expense of hoping against hope that DullASS might appear on one of the unit lists.
Again, if someone I supposedly never knew/met claimed to be on a boat and claimed dolphins but couldn’t produce his Dolphin Certificate, I’m not sure I’d give a shit enough to pursue the issue.
So what’s in it for you, Timmah?
October 9th, 2012 at 5:33 am
My Dad served in Dallas’ unit. One of the most decorated, most famous and probably one of the most obscure units in the history of the Vietnam War. The armory itself, the company headquarters plus one platoon are/were located in the town I was born. Stepping away from the Dallas’ issue for a second, the combat record of this unit is amazing.
You’re God Damn right I hope I can find his CIB and MOS orders, if this goes the wrong way this will be a major black eye for D/151 and some of those guys will probably blame yours truly if that comes to pass. “Those guys” are all people I know. In some cases, guys I’ve known since before D/151 was activated in 1968. If he turns out to be a fraud then I am truly fucked.
I’m doing this for no other reason than to uphold the prestige, honor, and high esprit de corps of the Indiana Rangers. I’m doing this to honor the memory of a dead father who was my best friend. Nothing more, nothing less.
This ain’t got shit to do with Dallas Wittgenfeld.
I’m sorry for some of the stupid shit I wrote. Not sorry for everything I wrote. Some of the shit I wrote is spot on but you get the gist of what I mean, I’m sure.
Just gonna wait until I see the orders or no orders. Fuck the FOIA, I really do have some connections at NARA II and at St. Louis.
By the way, if any of you are serious history buffs as I am, Shelby Stanton is a great source of info regarding this matter.
Good day to you all.
Tim
October 9th, 2012 at 6:29 am
@680:
I disagree that the nonexistence of order’s for DW’s CIB or MOS will be a black eye on his unit. The unit’s history in RVN belongs to the unit. DW’s tomfoolery is his alone. You don’t need my or anyone else’s seal of approval but, for what it’s worth, I think your okay and I wish you well.
October 9th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Tim Ramey, Dallas has a photo on his F/B profile claiming it to be your father. He also claims that your father went to serve with him in the IIFFV HHC on Bear cat too. In order for this to happen would mean that your father was NOT one of the original members of the 151st Indiana National Guardsmen . But was Regular Army that was a replacement for the unit while they were in RVN. Hence , He didn’t leave RVN when the orig. members left ..Please confirm..
October 9th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Ramey: you travel to Thailand periodically? That’s a surprise.
I must commend you on your excellent memory, however. If you’re currently 48 years old and can remember any of the folks who departed Camp Atterbury with D/151st in May 1968 from days prior to their departure, that means you have a very good memory of events occurring when you were 3 or 4 years old.
I’m also a bit curious how a unit can be simultaneously “famous” and “obscure”, as the terms seem somewhat mutually exclusive to me. But maybe that’s just me.
As I’ve said previously (above and elsewhere on this site) – I will continue to have questions about Wittgenfeld’s CIB even if orders eventually surface. Criteria for the CIB in 1969-1970 were virtually identical to those today: (a) have an infantry (11-series) MOS; (b) be assigned to an infantry unit of brigade or smaller size; (c) perform duties as an infantry soldier (e.g., have a duty assignment as an infantryman); and (d) personally engage the enemy in ground combat. If all 4 conditions are not met simultaneously, one does not qualify for a CIB. (The Vietnam era did have two specific exceptions to the infantry MOS requirement, but Wittgenfeld qualifies for neither exception.)
Wittgenfeld’s official records at NPRC show no assignments to an infantry duty position. All of his assignments in Vietnam were as a Radio Operator in MOS 05B. Therefore, even if he held an 11-series secondary or additional MOS it seems doubtful that he meets the regulatory criteria to receive a CIB. He never had a duty assignment as an infantryman.
Were I a former member of his unit, frankly I would be more ashamed of his outrageous conduct here than I would be to find out his CIB wasn’t legitimate. Most decent people don’t consider the following acceptable: public, blatantly racist remarks using the N-word; misogynist and degrading comments directed towards a female vet who’s served in Afghanistan; intentional public harassment of a recently-widowed lady; and multiple occasions of misrepresentation of prior SF status/assignments and/or decorations for valor (BSM w/V, noted by at least 6 sources over a period of 4 years).
Wittgenfeld has been documented to have done all of the above – see the comments above and follow some of the links contained in them. IMO finding out that he’s been wearing a CIB that turned out not to be legit would be the least objectionable of all of those reprehensible acts.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Hondo, when you point out the use of conflicting terms, as in ‘simultaneously “famous” and “obscure”’, you’re confirming what I suspected in the beginning: this guy defending DW’s person is just another blatherskite, especially since he’s ignored what you and others have pointed out repeatedly, that DW is and has been verbally abusive towards various groups and people, in writing, and prone to making false claims based on his own personal mythos. DW has, in fact, made himself the villain of the piece by his personality disorder.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Some folks just like defending the indefensible it appears….
October 9th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Yeah, well, after Mr Tim Ramey started pointing his finger at the American Legion, calling us “Milkooks” and “valor vultures” just generally channeling Dallas, I kind of lost interest in any sort of discourse. He wants us to believe that he’s a scholar of history and he uses this kind of empty blather to establish his credentials? He should just go back to the Pinay bars and forget about trying to prove anything to us. He lost any shred of credibility he might have had up to that point.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:16 am
When he used the term “valor vultures” I am pretty sure that made everyone realise his real purpose. That is if they hadn’t already figured it out.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Hondo and Scotty I’ll do my best to give you my memories.
I was at Indianapolis international Airport (Weircook Airport back then), and I remember quite well when my Dad and many of the men of D/151 left on their final leave to return to Ft. Benning. I had my arms around my Dad’s legs and wouldn’t let go. It is one of my strongest childhood memories.
My uncle Ed-PFC Ed Downey(my Mom’s brother), my uncle Charlie-SGT and then SSG Charles Ramey, (my Dad’s younger brother) several of my Dad’s best friends – SSG Charles Keeney, SSG Dave Mallory, SSG Bruce Sherwood and SSG Dave Keith were all people who came by my house-all I remember are these guys in green uniforms that would come by the house when I was a little kid and my Dad would car pool with them to the armory.
Hondo as to your comments that Dallas Wittgenfeld never held the duty position of an Infantryman, before he died, my father’s Ranger Buddy in Ranger School, SSG Mad Max Anderson confirmed to me that a Dallas Wittgenfeld was a replacement in September 1969, and he did in fact serve as Max’s RTO in Ranger Team 4-1 (4th Platoon, 1st Patrol)from September 1969-to November 1969, when the National Guard Members of D/151 went back home to Indiana.
As a replacement, Dallas had to have completed the unit’s Ranger replacement training program. Dad, Max, and many others have told be on numerous occasions that many of the replacements did not hold an Infantry MOS. Upon completion of Ranger replacement training, however, they ALL were awarded the MOS 11F (Infantry operations and intelligence specialist) along with the appropriate skill level:2,3 or 4 along with the SQI P as every single man who served in D company had to be Airborne qualified to serve in the unit. If you read Shelby Stanton’s book about the LRP/Rangers in Vietnam, his section on D/151 states that the unit was one of only ones that maintained it’s all Airborne status throughout its entire deployment.
I have no reason to doubt Max Anderson. He was a person of honesty and integrity. If he says/said that Dallas was his RTO then its myself and two hundred others that believe his words. End of story on that one.
Scotty, D/151 at various times, was forced to provide advisers to the Royal Thai Army. One of the things about this Thai issue that has bothered me from the beginning is that these advisers were “detached” and never permanently assigned. Being Ranger qualified, my Dad was chosen along with SSG Carl DeLong and a few others to work at various times with the Thai Army. I can assure you that a Ranger qualified NCO….(that little gold and black tab that says RANGER) does not serve as a fucking clerk or RTO as this guy who you got to comment on the function of the SLS guys stated. That may have been what those guys did, but that’s certainly not what the Ranger Advisers did.
I know that Dad got into some hot water because when he went to the Thai liaison section he basically told them to get fucked and that he wasn’t the man for the job and went back to D/151. One more thing, the Ranger Advisers did not perform the same function as the other liaison soldiers from other types of units. It would have been a monumental misapplication of resources to send a Ranger to a regular Thai unit. I was, and still am under the impression that the advisers from D/151 worked with Thai Airborne and Thai special forces units but that is strictly hearsay and I have no documentation. 1SG Pappy Hayes is still alive and well and living in Indianapolis and is in the phone book and can be contacted. As the operations NCO for D/151 I think he could offer a much more detailed description of what exactly the D/151 guys did for the Royal Thai Army. Certainly better than me.
Hondo: Certainly today, D/151 enjoys a rather famous reputation in the special operations and Ranger community. Certain media coverage, especially the CBS News Sunday Morning program broadcast with Rita Braver helped put them on the national stage. I used the word “obscure” because for a very long time they were. They were the only National Guard unit activated for service in Vietnam that stayed together as a unit and not broken up like all the other 7000 NG’s who served in Vietnam.
Bottom line, I’ve made some requests and I’m gonna hold quiet until I see some official paper. I hope you guys can respect that.
One last thing, Hondo, I last traveled to Thailand in August because I had reached my maximum number of extensions on my visa here in the Philippines. I have numerous friends in Thailand. It’s a 3 hour flight and its good to get the fuck out of AC and hit Pattaya for a few days R&R. Why do you find that a surprise?
October 9th, 2012 at 11:37 am
ANALYSIS:
Subect provides answer to question posted in # 668.
Question was: “BTW. I looked at your photos from PI. One question. Was that long time or short time?”
Answer was: “Oh and Master Chief, short time only, I’m a cheap charlie…”
ANSWER DISSECTED:
My name is Tim Ramey (at least that is what some believe). I am 48 year old self taught military historian and activist, I live in the Phillipines and travel to Thialand occassionly (wink wink … if you know what I mean), I enjoy short intimate interludes with indigenous populations, and I am a cheap bastard!
My favorite web site is: asianvacationpackagesforsexcrazedloons.com
END OF ANALYSIS
Note: The previous comment was not ment to harm, harrass, belittle, test the sensitivities of, make-fun-of, offend, fold, spindle, or mutilate any one person, group of persons, nation, or groups of nations. No animals native to the Phillipines were harmed in the drafting of this post.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Me luv u long time GI…
October 9th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Well, Timmy boy, if you were in the military, then you’d know that MCPO is a rate or job designation for someone in the NAVY.
So MCPO NYC USN (Ret) is NOT a G.I.
G.I.s are SOLDIERS.
Not Marines. Not Coasties. Not sailors. Not Air Force.
S-O-L-D-I-E-R-S = Army
October 9th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Raney: I thought the sarcasm at the beginning of my last comment above would be obvious.
A certain popular writer reportedly now spends his days in Thailand while writing stories about a different place – one where he’s no longer welcome. One of the places in Thailand at which he spends some time reputedly is Pattaya.
In earlier comments here you used one of his current favorite terms (“milkooks”), as well as one of Wittgenfeld’s (“valor vultures”). There’s also a rumor out there that the individual in question has been contacted by Wittgenfeld. Don’t know if there’s any truth to the rumor or not.
So I can’t exactly say your admitting you spend time in Thailand, and in particular Pattaya, and have friends there exactly surprised me.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
This is from the Army Board for the Correction of Miltary Records:
http://www.boards.law.af.mil/…/2002080674C070215.rtf
This case was filed by a member of D/151 who had the MOS 05B (Radio Telephone Operator) and his CIB wasn’t on his 214.
He won his case.
PROCEEDINGS
IN THE CASE OF:
BOARD DATE: 20 February 2003
DOCKET NUMBER: AR2002080674
I certify that hereinafter is recorded the true and complete record of the proceedings of the Army Board for Correction of Military Records in the case of the above-named individual.
Mr. Carl W. S. Chun Director
Mr. William Blakely Analyst
The following members, a quorum, were present:
Ms. Joann H. Langston Chairperson
Mr. Lester Echols Member
Mr. Allen L. Raub Member
The applicant and counsel if any, did not appear before the Board.
The Board considered the following evidence:
Exhibit A – Application for correction of military
records
Exhibit B – Military Personnel Records (including
advisory opinion, if any)
FINDINGS:
1. The applicant has exhausted or the Board has waived the requirement for exhaustion of all administrative remedies afforded by existing law or regulations.
2. The applicant requests, in effect, that his military records be corrected to show that he was awarded the Combat Infantryman Badge (CIB), his military occupational specialty (MOS) as 11B (Infantryman), and his correct unit of assignment.
3. The applicant states, in effect, that his DD Form 214 incorrectly shows his MOS and does not show the CIB as an authorized award. Also his military records incorrectly list his unit of assignment as Long Range Patrol (LRP). In support of his application, he submits a copy of unit orders that awarded him the CIB and his separation document (DD Form 214).
4. The applicant’s military records show that he entered the Army for a period of 3 years on 10 July 1967. He was trained in, awarded, and served in military occupational specialty (MOS) 05B (Radio Operator). He continuously served on active duty for 2 years, 5 months, and 14 days, until being honorably released from active duty (REFRAD) on 23 December 1969, by reason of permanent disability retirement.
5. The applicant’s Enlisted Qualification Record (DA Form 20) confirms that he served in the Republic of Vietnam (RVN) from 27 December 1968 to 7 March 1969. It also shows in Item 38 (Record Of Assignment) that while serving in the RVN, he was assigned to Company D, Long Range Patrol (LRP), 151st Infantry, and that he performed duties in MOS 05B as a Radio Operator. Item 41 (Awards and Decorations) shows that he earned the following awards during his active duty tenure: Purple Heart; National Defense Service Medal; Vietnam Service Medal; and RVN Campaign Medal with 60 Device.
6. The applicant’s Military Personnel Records Jacket (MPRJ) contains no orders or other documents indicating that his MOS was ever changed to 11B (Infantryman) or that he was recommended for or awarded a CIB. The MPRJ is also void of derogatory information that would have disqualified the applicant from receiving the Army Good Conduct Medal (AGCM) or of any indication that he was ever disqualified from receiving the AGCM by any of the active duty unit commanders for which he served.
7. The applicant provides a copy of Unit Orders Number 17, dated 29 March 1969, which was issued by Company D (Ranger), 151st Infantry. These orders authorized the award of the CIB to the applicant, and the MOS listed was
11B (Infantryman).
8. Army Regulation 600-8-22 (Military Awards) provides that the Good Conduct Medal (GCMDL) is awarded to individuals who distinguish themselves by their conduct, efficiency and fidelity during a qualifying period of active duty enlisted service. This period is 3 years except in those cases when the period for the first award ends with the termination of a period of Federal military service. Although there is no automatic entitlement to the Good Conduct Medal, disqualification must be justified.
9. Paragraph 2-13 of the awards regulation contains guidance on awarding the Vietnam Service Medal and states, in pertinent part, that a bronze service star is authorized with this award for each campaign participated in while serving in the RVN.
10. Table B-1 of Army Regulation 600-8-22 lists all campaigns, service requirements, and inscriptions for streamers. This document confirms the applicant participated in two campaigns during his tenure in the RVN: Vietnam Counteroffensive Phase VI; and the Tet 69 Counteroffensive, 1969.
11. United States Army Vietnam Regulation Number 672-1 (Awards and Decorations) contained the policy guidance on awarding the CIB in the RVN. Appendix 3 to Annex A of this regulation listed positions which qualified for award of the CIB. It stated, in pertinent part, that the CIB was authorized for award to members serving in MOS 05B as Radio Operators provided their primary duty was to accompany infantry or infantry type units on tactical operations.
12. Department of the Army General Order Number 8, dated 1974, authorized the award of the Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross with Palm Unit Citation to all personnel assigned to United States Army Vietnam or Military Assistance Command Vietnam and its subordinate units from 8 February 1962 to 28 March 1973.
CONCLUSIONS:
1. The evidence of record shows that he served in the RVN from 27 December 1968 to 7 March 1969. It also shows that while serving in the RVN, he was assigned to Company D, LRP, 151st Infantry (Ranger), and that he performed duties in MOS 05B (Radio Operator).
2. By regulation, the CIB was authorized for award to members serving in the RVN in MOS 05B as Radio Operators, provided their primary duty was to accompany infantry or infantry type units on tactical operations. Therefore, the Board concludes that the applicant was entitled to receive CIB based on his service as a Radio Operator with an infantry unit in the RVN, as indicated in the Unit Orders he provided.
3. However, notwithstanding the MOS of 11B shown in the Unit Orders provided by the applicant, the record clearly shows that the only MOS he held during his active duty tenure was 05B (Radio Operator). Thus, the Board finds insufficient evidence to support changing his record to show he held the MOS 11B (Infantryman).
4. The evidence of record confirms that the applicant served a qualifying period of honorable service, from 10 July 1967 to 23 December 1969, which entitles him to receive the first award of the AGCM. Lacking any derogatory information on file and/or a specific disqualifying action from any of the active duty commanders for which he served that would preclude him from receiving this award, the Board concludes that it would be appropriate to add it to his record at this time.
5. The record also confirms that service in the RVN and his participation in two campaigns entitles him to 2 bronze service stars with his Vietnam Service Medal and the Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross with Palm Unit Citation. Thus, the Board further concludes that it would be appropriate to add these awards to his record at this time.
6. Although technically there is no error in the unit listed in the applicant’s
DD Form 214, it is clear that the 151st Infantry was a Ranger unit, as confirmed in the historical records and as indicated in the Unit Orders provided by the applicant. Thus, since a corrected separation document will be issued to add the awards indicated above, the Board has no objection to adding the Ranger designation to the unit listed in his separation document at this time.
7. In view of the foregoing, the applicant’s records should be corrected as recommended below.
RECOMMENDATION:
1. That all of the Department of the Army records related to this case be corrected by showing the individual concerned was awarded the Combat Infantryman Badge and two bronze service stars with his Vietnam Service Medal; by awarding him the first award of the Army Good Conduct Medal and the Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross with Palm Unit Citation; by amending the entry in Item 12 (Last Duty Assignment and Major Command) of his 23 December 1969 DD Form 214 to read “CoD (LRP), 151st Infantry (Ranger), USARPAC”; and by providing him a corrected separation document that reflects these changes.
2. That so much of the application as is in excess of the foregoing be denied.
BOARD VOTE:
__JHL__ __ LE _ __ ALR __ GRANT AS STATED IN RECOMMENDATION
________ ________ ________ GRANT FORMAL HEARING
________ ________ ________ DENY APPLICATION
_ Raymond V. O’Connor, Jr._
CHAIRPERSON
INDEX
CASE ID AR2002080674
SUFFIX
RECON YYYYMMDD
DATE BOARDED 2003/02/20
TYPE OF DISCHARGE (HD, GD, UOTHC, UD, BCD, DD, UNCHAR)
DATE OF DISCHARGE YYYYMMDD
DISCHARGE AUTHORITY AR . . . . .
DISCHARGE REASON
BOARD DECISION Partial Relief
REVIEW AUTHORITY
ISSUES 1. 100.0500
2. 107.0056
3. 107.0111
4.
5.
6.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
When this hits 700 I am going to post a pic of a zombie, because this will be a Return of the Living Dead with so many sequels it is funny threads…
October 9th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Timmy my advice to you is to quit while you are ahead. Perhaps it would be best for you to learn to READ and thus COMPREHEND what some of the folks here are trying to tell you. They have FIRST HAND knowledge of the Military that you only have through second hand information.
Let me break it down for you Timmy…
Dallas was NEVER an 11B despite what he claims. He never earned a CIB despite his claims. If he had ANY balls at all he would have posted his OFFICIAL orders that awarded him this MOS right away and thus this little “game” would not be a recurring theme.
Dallas LOVES the attention he receives from this almost as much as he loves you under his desk Timmy. He can use it to “enhance” his “reputation” and his imagination can run wild with ideas on what he can tell people.
Dallas is a Doucherocket of epic proportions so whatever he chooses to do just remember you sided with him and you will have to deal with the consequences of that choice when he is proven, once again, to be a lying POS.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Hell with it…copy paste…
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October 9th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Man, I thought sippy was bad.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Ex-PH, “Me luv you long time, GI” was a pretty common phrase and it was (and still is in certain parts of Asia) used generically to all branches of service.
I could be a dick and say something fucked-up like, “If you were military you’d know that,” but I’ll take you at your word that you were, and leave it at that.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
OEF_Veteran: Since I served in the Army as an 11B10, how is that I have information second hand?
October 9th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Jason, The Walking Dead on AMC starts again on the 14th. This is the topic that just won’t die. On a side note, what is the longest topic on TAH? I’d be willing to put money on this one.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
United States Army Vietnam Regulation Number 672-1 (Awards and Decorations) contained the policy guidance on awarding the CIB in the RVN. Appendix 3 to Annex A of this regulation listed positions which qualified for award of the CIB. It stated, in pertinent part, that the CIB was authorized for award to members serving in MOS 05B as Radio Operators provided their primary duty was to accompany infantry or infantry type units on tactical operations.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
“However, notwithstanding the MOS of 11B shown in the Unit Orders provided by the applicant, the record clearly shows that the only MOS he held during his active duty tenure was 05B (Radio Operator). Thus, the Board finds insufficient evidence to support changing his record to show he held the MOS 11B (Infantryman).”
Ok, so that says that the RTO in question never was granted the MOS 11B since the only MOS he held was 05B. Which would mean this RTO WOULD NOT be authorized to wear the blue cord and disks of an Infantryman correct?
Now if I were to apply this to Dumbass, we could say he was awarded the CIB but WAS NOT awarded the MOS 11B therefore making him ineligible to wear the blue cord and disks of an Infantryman.
Youre not really helping him any dude. Go back to playing slappy tickle with Yawn and his Thai ladybois…..
October 9th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Darrell Holder just sent me a scan of Wittgenfeld’s orders for his ARCOM w/V how do I put in this blog or is there a email address I can send it to?
October 9th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Ramey #698 (698, seriously?), you don’t have to take anyone’s word for their service, all of us have pictures of ourselves in uniform in the “Members’ Gallery” at the link in the header. Ex-PH2′s lovely face is at the very top.
The CIB thing is weak. When we see orders we’ll believe it and not a minute beforehand. While you’re at it, explain the Bronze Star Medal and the green beret.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Ohhhhh, I was #700. Put your money where your mouth is. I wanna see a zombie.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Its not my job to help him, DUDE. It’s not my job to pad shit or change shit to help Dallas. And it’s not my fucking job to HELP him. I don’t give a shit how this ends up. The only fucking thing I care about is that the truth is revealed, is that too fucking hard for you to grasp A-BOB?
October 9th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
No, whats hard for me to grasp is why a seemingly intelligent person such as yourself feels the need to prop this asshat up and fluff his ego here and on his FB page. You have totally disregarded the fact that this sack of feces brings discredit upon himself, D/151, The United States Army and Veterans of all branches of service.
And if its not your job to help Dumbass why did you insist on necroing this thread? Its all good, keep posting it just ensures that everyone who googles his name (and yours now) can see what kind of a colostomy bag Dumbass really is.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Well, since I KNEW sailors stationed at Subic Bay and Olongapo, back in the very long ago, I’ll use what THEY said to me, not your diluted reference.
And no Marine that I knew coming back from Vietnam ever used ‘me luv you long time, GI’ when telling me about the boomboom girls. It was ‘I love you no shit, Marine, buy me drink, Phuong give you numbah one blow job long time, short time, you pick, Marine, only 4000P.’
October 9th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Not propping him up. But I’m gonna get the orders or I”m gonna find out they don’t exist. I’m not like you guys who will wait for months and months and just keep bitching. I want the shit in my hand yesterday.
I will find the truth, that I assure you.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
I don’t get it. I got suckered twice in the same thread. Guess I’m too soft or too stupid. I thought Raney was sincere with the cmt at 680, what with his sentiments regarding his Dad. Then he comes back and fans what I thought were fading embers. I’ll just retire now and contemplate where I went wrong.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
TIM RAMEY RESPONSES ANALYZED
It appears that, based on the time stamp of each, frequency and number of, and the delusional and confusing posts by Tim Ramey, he has been awake and at his computer for 24 to 36 hours.
It must be terribly lonely in the PI.
END OF ANALYSIS
October 9th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
@708, Someone has watched Full Metal Jacket one too many times.
October 9th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
@Twist: “Full Metal Jacket” only once. Verbage direct from Chink Morris, who told me he was just glad to be back home, while I was on leave after boot.
MCPO, probably ran out of money.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Timmy , Timmy, Timmy , Pay attention to detail chubby. you answered the first part of my question which was if your father was an orig. member of the 151st Indiana National guard which you confirmed as a yes he was. Now considering that Dallas wasn’t assigned to the HHC IIFORCEV until 29 Apr. of 70, ( 5 months after the orig. 151st Guard members rotated out of RVN. ) It appears that Dallas is lying about your own fathers time in country.Or is there proof that your father stayed in country and served with the 75th . and then went on with Dallas to serve with the HHC II FFORCEV that Dallas is claiming that he did in the photo posted on Dallas Wittgenfeld’s f/b profile. Of course unlike you, what I’m commenting on is fact & not hearsay.
October 9th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Excuse me admins , Comment 714 is mine. i’m on a diff. pc right now & didn’t see that I wasn’t logged on..my, mistake.. dropping and pumping out 50 push ups now.
October 9th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Actually, Ramey – we’ve done quite a bit more than sit around and bitch. Getting paperwork back from NPRC takes a while sometimes – especially if you end up dealing with a tech who doesn’t know what they can and cannot release and have to reprocess the same request multiple times.
Regarding Wittenfeld’s CIB: there’s never been any question that something in his official records shows Wittgenfeld has a CIB. The question has always been whether or not the CIB was legitimate under the regs of the day.
If what the ABCMR case states is accurate, Wittgenfeld’s CIB may well be legit. I’ll want to find and read a copy of USARV Reg 672-1 myself to satisfy myself it actually says what the ABCMR says it does – the Army reg of the day doesn’t say that at all. However, the ABCMR doesn’t usually screw up interpreting historical or current regs, either. They’ve got a damn good staff.
That USARV reg might not be available on-line, given its age; the fact that it was a local vice DA reg; and the length of time it’s been obsolete. Might have to find a hardcopy in an archive to check it out.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Hondo I just received 2 sets of orders:
1) Orders awarding Wittgenfeld the SMOS of 11B2P
2) The Combat Infantryman’s badge
Where and how should I send them?
October 9th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
These orders contain the names of many other soldiers and their SSN’s have been redacted by NPRC.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Well goody-goody fucking gumdrops, they do exist.
So tell me Timmah, does that excuse his Grade-A fucktardery since then?
Does it excuse him FLYING drunk?
Does it excuse him falsely claiming BSM-V’s on multiple occasions?
Hoookay, thanks for playing, you may run along now.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Sorry you feel that way.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Tumbleweeds blowing across the prarie….
October 9th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Timmy are you smoking some of that local juju weed over in the PI? Scroll to the very top and look for the CONTACT US link or do you need one of Yawn’s houseboys to crawl out from under your desk and do it for you?
October 9th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
BTW one more thing for you Timmy…these orders you claim to have received will be verified, I am sure, as authentic and if you are trying to pull a fast one by doing what Dallas has thus far refused to do I’d suggest you rethink that idea.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Tim – use the “Contact Us” Link.. it is not hard. it goes right to Jonn’s email…
October 10th, 2012 at 12:09 am
OEF_Veteran: I’ve never uttered a disrespectful word to you. Ever.
Never said anything untoward to you.
You don’t like me fine. But please remember I’ve never done anything to you.
I’ve never claimed wartime service
I’ve never claimed a medal, ribbon, badge or tab that I didn’t earn.
Don’t ever threaten me, scumbag.
Been out of the Army for almost 30 years, and I see the mentality hasn’t changed at all.
Happiest day of my fucking life was when I was discharged. Why? Because of people who talk and act like you.
October 10th, 2012 at 12:11 am
Get a life, people. Can’t play Soldier your whole life…
October 10th, 2012 at 12:58 am
Tim Ramey, I’ve been coming here less than a year,as such I don’t remember seeing your name before. If you look in the “Phony Soldier” section of this blog you’ll see what we have come up against. Some realize they’re busted, tuck tail and slink away. Others, once they’re busted, make more outrageous claims then come the ridiculous threats of lawsuits, threats of physical violence, etc. No one here is trying to play “soldier”. The largest majority of us are either Honorably Discharged or Honorably Retired veterans from all branches. I myself served a very boring single three year tour in the Marine Corps in the ’70s. I received an Honorable Discharge as a Sgt. (E-5). I have never exaggerated my service or decorations and I won’t abide anyone who does.
October 10th, 2012 at 1:19 am
Get a life, people. Can’t play Soldier your whole life…
Says the guy who can’t get laid without going to the PI. Most of us gave up the, “fuck, suck, run amok” games before we reached half your age, scooter.
Food for thought.
October 10th, 2012 at 1:19 am
Sad Zombie clown… Just click the link Twist!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ne5Lb2SiFHg/SsURLOettGI/AAAAAAAAl7o/GAqcF3wAw70/s400/zombie+clown.jpg
October 10th, 2012 at 1:23 am
I just sent emails to the President of the Company D(RANGER) 151st Airborne Infantry Association, and the 75th RRA. I’ve submitted RANGER Wittgenfeld’s orders and stated that as far as I’m concerned Ranger Wittgenfeld has never worn anything on his uniform that he hasn’t earned.
End of story and case closed.
This will be my last post on this piece of shit blog and the piece of shit people that inhabit it.
October 10th, 2012 at 1:28 am
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October 10th, 2012 at 1:30 am
Sorry I have to do this…
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October 10th, 2012 at 1:32 am
I noticed that Mr Ramey mentioned a gentleman by the name of Darrell Holder that was awarded a Silver Star. If he is really good with records he may want to contact the people who keep the online database of Silver Star recipients as There is no one by the name of Holder in the US Army that received a Silver Star in Vietnam. If he has Evidence to the contrary he could correct that.
October 10th, 2012 at 1:39 am
I just looked up the citation on the Unit’s website, Be great if they could fix the website to reflect Mr Holder’s award. Even better if perchance it never made it onto his DD214 get the record corrected.
October 10th, 2012 at 1:44 am
This flare up clocked in at around 130 posts (including my nonsense), which if Mr. Ramey…if that is your real name…you could have simply saved us all of the time and aggravation by simply and quietly sending in the documents you currently say you are sending in. I would be willing to bet that Jonn and TSO would have put out one of the BIGGEST retractions EVER! In the HISTORY of blogs. Now how long should it take for said documents to come around and to be verified. I don’t know you know how e-mail runs these days, it can be slow and all. Now if the documents you send are legit and it verifies that Dallas Wittgenfield is completely legit I will take a picture of myself kissing my cat Mackinac’s ass and send it in to TSO so that it can be posted. Don’t worry they have my e-mail and everything so it will be on the up and up. I will also type an apology on my own behalf for referring to Wittgenfield as the “flying assclown”. So remember legit documents=pic of me kissing cat butt and an apology. I will also be expecting a visit from the Tooth Fairy, Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny that same day…
October 10th, 2012 at 1:50 am
One other little thing,Dullass talks down and belttles all the Sandbox Warriors. Only his actions are acceptable. While you are at it,Please post a copy of his orders for the Air Medal he also cliams.
October 10th, 2012 at 1:58 am
You stupid fucks:
http://www.ranger151.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=19&Itemid=51
October 10th, 2012 at 2:03 am
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October 10th, 2012 at 2:03 am
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October 10th, 2012 at 2:11 am
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October 10th, 2012 at 2:38 am
Tim I think you may have opened up something you may not have wanted to open. I am not sure if you are just not aware of what you just did or if you are being honest.
October 10th, 2012 at 2:40 am
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October 10th, 2012 at 2:50 am
ARCOM with valor def not the same thing as a BSM with valor. Timmah youre a tool. And if those records were so quickly available to you why hasnt the ass clown produced them? Something smells fishy here…….
October 10th, 2012 at 3:31 am
Timmah, I thought you weren’t coming back, man?
October 10th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Ramey: as I’ve said multiple times: there has never been any question as to whether something in Wittgenfeld’s records showed he had a CIB. His ARCOM w/V has also never been questioned.
What was always in question was whether or not Wittgenfeld’s CIB was legitimate under the regs in effect in 1969 and 1970. We’ve seen official documents that turned out to be in error and which were later revoked here, too. See Aden, Ken.
I’ve had a redacted copy of Wittgenfeld’s CIB orders for months, as well as proof of his 11B SMOS (a redacted DA20 – that document shows slightly different date for his MOS, but close enough to not matter; written orders sometime lag VOCO). What was still in question was whether or not he’d ever (a) served as an infantryman and (b) been in a firefight after award of that 11B MOS while performing duties as an infantryman.
What I didn’t have – and still have not verified – was word of the alleged policy exception in USARV Reg 672-1 allowing infantry RTOs award of the CIB in Vietnam. Assuming USARV Reg 672-1 says what you (and the ABCMR) states it does, it looks like Wittgenfeld’s CIB may be legit after all. If that’s true, USARV apparently took local liberties with the existing Army reg of the day and “Big Army” decided to either approve the exception or look the other way. I can’t say either would shock me, since I’ve seen DA “look the other way” in other cases when I thought they shouldn’t.
But I’ll want to read the pertinent part of USARV 672-1 it for myself – just to be sure.
And just in case you didn’t notice: the 11B orders you posted show you were flat wrong regarding your (and Wittgenfeld’s) “everybody got an 11F SMOS” claim above. 11B isn’t the same as 11F. Both are Infantry MOS, but they’re not the same MOS.
The next time you correspond with or speak to Wittgenfeld, tell him he should have been man enough to send Jonn the docs himself. I’m not buying you getting those docs from NPRC that quickly – especially if you’re overseas. Moreover, on the SMOS and CIB orders, Wittgenfeld’s SSN was very obviously redacted separately, after all of the other SSNs had been removed. I’m guessing you did the second redaction after Wittgenfeld (or someone acting on his behalf) sent softcopies of those docs to you.
None of the above alters the fact that Wittgenfeld is IMO a first-class jackass, a apparent racist, a misogynist fool, and a serial liar who’s made repeated false claims about other aspects of his military record (BSM w/V, being SF, etc . . . . ) for personal profit and to stoke his massive ego. He’s also dismissive and disrespectful towards more recent combat vets. But he does appear to be a first-class jackass, racist, misogynist, and serial liar with a legitimate CIB.
October 10th, 2012 at 6:48 am
@713, I was refering to Tim using the “me love you long time” reference, not you. Sorry that I wasn’t clear on that.
October 10th, 2012 at 8:33 am
@746 Twist — Thank you, did not know that, but I did feel it was necessary then, and always, to be clear about my sources of information,especially when they’re that specific. So if I have questions about MOS’s, it’s because the Navy uses rate, note MOS, for job designations, and sometimes I feel as though I need a crypto dictionary to follow the jargon.
As to TR’s continuing verbal forays:
‘Don’t ever threaten me, scumbag.’ — NO ONE HAS THREATENED YOU, RAMEY.
‘Been out of the Army for almost 30 years, and I see the mentality hasn’t changed at all. Happiest day of my fucking life was when I was discharged. Why? Because of people who talk and act like you.’ — THEN WHY IN THE BLUE-EYED WORLD DO YOU KEEP COMING BACK HERE?
It seems that this is another one of Whipitnflogit’s manifestations of his histrionic personality disorder, so, people, I think NHSparky and Bubblehead Ray would agree that it’s time to cut line and run. U think there are more important subjects to discuss.
October 10th, 2012 at 8:37 am
…that should be “I think there are more important…etc.”
Not enough caffeine. Must make stronger tea on rising. Paint peeler.
October 10th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Damn shutterbugs and shore duty pukes…lol. Whoever said a good cup of coffee is where you can see a dime in the bottom of the cup was lying. A good cup of coffee is where you see a dime DISSOLVE in the bottom of the cup.
And Timmah…just to paint the obvious for ya…nobody is buying the bullshit. Save your pesos for more short times and drowning your sorrows over pitchers of mojo.
October 10th, 2012 at 9:38 am
OK, Sparky, you’re on. This ain’t no sh1t:
At NPC, when I was in the Still Photo Print lab, the unwritten rule was that whoever took the last cup of coffee out of the big pot — those old steel percolators, remember them? — whoever took the last cup had to make a new pot. PH1 Ray Mouncey frequently took the last cup but NEVER EVEr made a new pot. It fell to me, one day, as I was still a PHAN (that’s E-3 to you USA/USMC types) to make a new pot, and as I do not drink coffee, I did not want to have to follow up for someone who was a lazy frack and wanted people to do everything for him — and I mean, EVERYTHING.
However, I agreed to make the next pot. I also asked why there was no big pot of hot water for those who wanted to make tea or those Lipton instant soups that had just started coming into the commissary or even hot chocolate on a cold winter day. That was taken under advisement by Chief (PHSC) Kasukaitis, who retired (as I understand it) to Christchurch later on.
As I was cleaning up the mess left behind by others, I asked PH3 Liz Spaulding, also known as Liz the Blob, how to make coffee in that giant percolator. She told me to fill the basket to the second line — seriously! To the second line. That’s almost half a pound of coffee. And then, she said, fill the pot with water up to the line.
So I dutifully spooned a half pound of coffee into the basket, to the second line, filled the tank to the line with water, put the basket into the percolator, put the lid on the pot, and turned it on.
A few minutes later, LT Tuthill (mustang, really good guy), our division officer, came into the Still lab with his personal coffee mug in his hand. He had the habit, as he told me later, of drinking about twenty cups of coffee a day, and had a callous on his right index finger from years of holding his coffee cup all day long.
Mr. Tuthill drew himself a cup of coffee while I stood there watching to see what his reaction would be to what I have for years considered to be a very evil brew. He took a big swallow and nearly choked, looked around and said, “Who the hell made this coffee?”
So, being the smart ass that I was then (and still am), I promptly said, “I did. Is it okay?” Of course, I smiled innocently as I said that.
Mr. Tuthill said, “It’s a bit strong.”
I said, “Well, sir, I could do it over.”
And he said, “No, it’s fine. I see another customer lining up.” He knew what went on, just like everyone else did.
And sure enough, it was PH1 Ray Mouncey wandering up with his own, personalized coffee mug. He drew a full cup and took a large swallow, and choked on it. Then he looked around and yelled, “Who the hell made this coffee?”
And LT Tuthill said, “I did, Mouncey. What’s the matter with it? Too strong for you?”
Mouncey said “No, sir, it’s just fine,” and walked away with his cup of poison.
I was not asked to make coffee again. A hot water pot was added, along with other things like teabags and instant soups, for those of us who did not indulge in coffee, and Mouncey found himself making the occasional pot of coffee when he was foolish enough to take the last cup.
That’s when I learned that it frequently pays to be a smart ass, just not all the time with it.
And I did drink coffee one time, at Great Lakes in January 1973, after a long and ridiculous beer poker game with and EM1 who called himself Squirrel. The deal was if you lost the hand of poker, you bought the beer, and imbibing more than two cans of Pabst gave me a pounding headache.
October 10th, 2012 at 9:55 am
ACtually, it might have been a full pound of coffee grounds. It was a four-pound can, and I used a lot.
October 10th, 2012 at 10:56 am
So the Doucherocket actually was awarded a CIB and it is apparently legit. Wow why didn’t he just come out and show the orders early on and this entire hoopla would have been over and done with. I guess this is what happens when a person is such an attention whore that they will do anything to remain relevant in society.
I’ll say it here and now…
My apologies for doubting that your CIB and 11B MOS were legit Doucherocket but as stated above you could have brought this to an end a lot sooner instead of being an attention whore and not simply doing the right thing.
October 10th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Still doesn’t explain why or how he got into SFA (although I totally understand why they booted his ass) or why he’s STILL claiming to be SF.
October 11th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
He is still an arogant and disrespectful POS!
The manner in which he refers to other people suggests he is a BAD APPLE. The assclownery he engages in while wearing the his own modified uniforms is disgraceful. No apologies here. He has proven to be and has acted like a class A Jackass … from start to finish!
He is not what he says he is. His actions and the record prove so!
October 12th, 2012 at 2:37 am
I happen to think you’re an arrogant and bloviating prick. Someone needs to knock that fucking smirk off your face, squid!
October 12th, 2012 at 4:12 am
Timmah–seriously. Just because you come here under Anon doesn’t mean we don’t know and can’t prove very easily it’s you.
Why don’t you go stand in front of a Jeepney already? It’s apparent that you can’t follow the advice you gave yourself in post 730.
Don’t go away mad, Timmah–just go away.
October 12th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Sparky, don’t talk to it. You’re only encouraging it.
October 12th, 2012 at 9:51 am
EX, Sparky likes to bait and verbally slap the Trolls. Joe
October 12th, 2012 at 10:53 am
I know, Joe, and I was quoting Bill Murray in “Ghostbusters”. I thought we put this thing into its grave, but Hallowe’en IS just around the corner and like any zombie, it keeps popping up to eat your brain.
MWAH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HAA-A-A-A-A-A-A-AH!
October 12th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
What do you expect from someone named Sparky – must be Radar’s buddy on MASH at the 8063.
October 12th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
And someone shut the cunt up!
October 12th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Jonn just might do that after reading your last comment (761) above, Ramey – by moderating or banning you.
Posting misogynist crap was what caused Jonn to put Wittgenfeld on his “moderated commenters” list.
October 12th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Yeah, I decided that negating his anonymity might settle him down a bit. Since anyone [a prospective employer] searching for his name in Google will find those comments. Ooops.
October 12th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
So good on him for an honorable service characteristic, but all that other stuff, the lying about special forces and disabilities, the public endangerment (drunk flying), the threats to a woman all of that negates whatever respect folks might have had for that honorable service.
To note a personal observation over the years, not everyone who is classified as serving honorably is an honorable person. There is no honor in being a drunken liar whether the Army considers what you did for them honorable or not. Being self aggrandizing, narcissistic, threatening to women are hardly characteristics of honorable men. Mr. Ramey’s association and defense of such behavior, along with his considerable verbal talents of late have cast him as a man of honor similar to Mr. Wittgenfeld.
You are known by the company you keep Mr. Ramey, don’t let your work as a historian (if you value such work, and it seems you do) become undone by your associations with men whose vision of honor deviates from the perception of honor held by much of the rest of the nation.
October 12th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Hahaha, Ramey, you drinky girl molesting, Drew Carey with Down Syndrome look alike wanna be troll!
Why don’t you do the world a favor, go slip into something more comfortable, like a coma????
October 12th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Oh, I’m in it now.
And in regard to comment #761 above, I think that people who live in glass WHOREHOUSES shouldn’t throw stones.
October 12th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Now, now, Ex-PH2: not every run-down and seedy-looking bar frequented by middle-aged Americans in Angeles City or Olongapo City is a whorehouse. Reputedly at least one or two in each city are actually nightclubs.
October 12th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Hondo:
October 12th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Hondo, but not the seedy-looking bars frequented by a self proclaimed “love machine’ like Tim Ramey those are in fact always whorehouses….
http://www.myspace.com/timramey/photos/625331#{%22ImageId%22%3A625331}
October 12th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
VoV: above I was speaking about the establishments themselves, not those frequenting same. I don’t believe I said anything one way or another regarding the predilections or professions of persons frequenting said establishments.
October 12th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
I’d lay odds he even has to pay to have sex with himself.
October 12th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Ex-PH2: if the pills in this picture are blue, you just might be right about that.
http://www.myspace.com/timramey/photos/40444185#{%22ImageId%22%3A40444185}
‘Course, I guess those could also be his condoms.
October 12th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Ex-PH2, He probably has to pay double at “Lee’s Massage Parlor” and only then it is the woman that lost a bet.
October 12th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Hondo, point taken…I suspect we have hit a nerve though….famous historians frequenting houses of ill repute in countries like Thailand known for enslaving little girls doesn’t do much to boost your reputation or your credibility…
October 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Hondo, do they make them in size XXS?
Twist:
VOV, wasn’t there some 19th century British writer who did that? Or am I thinking of Bill Shakespeare and Kit Marlowe at a tavern in London?
October 12th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Tim is just too easy of a target rich of a character to kick around, and I think some of you are making unfair assumptions of why he is in the Philippines I do believe they have ladyboys there just as good as they do in Thailand.
October 12th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Ooooooo. Timmy you’re so smart and brave. You remind me of a little bitch dog we had when I was a kid. She’d bark and snarl and take off after any other dog who dared to come into our yard. Of course, whenever the other dog would turn and looked at her, she’d tuck tail and run wailing like she was being murdered. The other dogs just ignored her because they knew she only talked shit and would never back it up.
She was brave as long as the other dog couldn’t get to her.
I think I’ll just call you Tootie It was her name, and it fits a bitch like you.
October 12th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
You guys do realize, don’t you, that if DW is monitored and Timmy also gets monitored, then DW will just find someone else to keep this worm alive?
Just for amusement, if it goes to 800, shouldn’t that be the cutoff? Isn’t it time to give someone else some well-deserved attention?
October 12th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
I know someone has already said it but….
its the thread that goes on and on…ah prairie shit….
http://youtu.be/HmcP3MShzS0
October 12th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
@ Tim … Anytime you feel froggy … jump. I might warn you politely, you cross the line with me you will find regreting it far worse than the offence itself. You see I have reach … very far and wide. In fact the PI is easy. BTW your vulgar approach to making a point is not heard. You called me a prick and a squid while your sitting in the PI. Try that to my face. I doubt you would …. So Timmy Boy tone it down. BTW your behavior suggests that you might have some anger and addiction issues couple with parental separation complex. That is just the tip. Crack a SM and chill!
October 12th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
@ Timmy the Angry Man …. you posted a document with Dallas’s SSN on it. Good going.
October 12th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
And to all you Value Vultures at TAH … this will be my last post here … you can all go to Pakistan, or Yeman, or North Korea!
October 13th, 2012 at 5:45 am
Yeah, I kind figured Timmah wasn’t going to react real well to the fact someone knows what an IP address is and how to use Google. And frankly Timmah, MASH might have been a popular TV show back in the day but it was your typical leftist drivel under the surface. Kinda like you..popular with the B-girls as long as you’ve got “pesonality”. Now go cry quietly over your San Magoo, lil boy.
October 13th, 2012 at 9:57 am
I’m still waiting on Timmy boy to confirm that his father stayed behind and served with Dallas in the 75th & then went on to serve with Dallas in the IIFFV HHC on Bear cat. Of course when I started commenting on the post that Dallas had on his f/b wall that this happened. It mysteriously disappeared. No worries though. I took a screen save before I asked Timmy about it on this blog. Now unless Timmy can confirm this happened or that Dallas was bullshitting. It will be added to his BoS. Which would mean that Timmy boy would lose all credibility on defending dilly Dallas. your call Timmy. Put up or shut up. When did your father rotate out of RVN ?
October 14th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
(crickets from TImmah)…
Finally, some peace and quiet.