Derek Kent Rose, the forgery sex offender
Mary at POW Network sends us their research on Derek Kent Rose who was arrested in Virginia last week for receiving stolen property and not registering with the sex offender registry. Apparently, he was also caught forging his DD214 a while back and using the Wounded Warrior program telling the tale that he was in a HMMV accident which killed four of his fellow Marines and he caught a TBI while they died in his arms. Here’s the DD214 he began to alter with an X-acto knife;
And how it ended up;
Really? It takes Marines a 4-week course to learn night land navigation? And at least he didn’t go for Force Recon or Scout Snipers and just made himself an MP. That ought to make you MPs feel a little better.
But here are his assignments from his FOIA, so unless he was a traffic control MP in the DFAC chow line, it doesn’t reflect any possibility for his self-awarded Combat Action Ribbon;
So, as with most of these phonies, he’s guilty of other stuff besides forging his records;
POW Network has several examples of the little perv embellishing his record, and wearing uniforms and phony finery that he bought but didn’t earn. you should check it out.
June 10th, 2012 at 11:04 am
I don’t savvy “Marine speak”, but discharged as an E-1 and what seems to be 30 days in confinement (lower right, assignments) is telling.
June 10th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Looks like an RE-4 discharge code too. Yep. Le turd.
June 10th, 2012 at 11:58 am
So, he was using the Wounded Warrior Program and claimed to have gotten a “TBI from a Hummer accident in Falujah, Iraq”.
With a DD214 showing service from 1994-1996.
Didn’t ANYONE who saw a copy of any of his DD214s notice something fishy about that claim?
June 10th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
What the hell is a Humanitary Medal, Cold weather service medal or a North Atlantic Medal? What a complete waste of a human being, I really don’t know why he is still breathing, f-ing scum.
June 10th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Also it is a Sea Service Deployment Ribbon, and a Overseas Service Ribbon. Commendation is spelled wrong, how did this pass even a cursory look?
June 10th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Oh the webs one must weave, when one first practices to deceive.
June 14th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Ive known Derek since he was 16 and pretending to be a Marine. I also have his first born child. Although he has NEVER been apart of our lives since then, I ask that you respect the idea that there are many very young children out there whom will read this and possibly take it personally. The last thing we need is a very stable child to read something on his biological father like this and internalizing it. Please be careful, because these children don’t know these things about their biological father and when you google Dereks name this is the first thing that comes up. My son longs to join the Marine Corp, and is currently in a University with a double major. Pre med being one of them. Please be responsible and understand while you are voicing your concerns Derek has 5 children whom don’t know these things about him…to protect them.
June 14th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
So basically you’re saying it’s better to lie.
June 14th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Easy for you to say when your not the child reading this and internalizing it. We as mothers do what we can to protect our children. Respect that! No, Derek is not a good person, and has been troubled for as long as I can remember. But his children don’t have to pay the price for his mistakes. While my adult child is VERY stable due to how he was raised. Im not asking for a smart ass comment or your judgement on how we protect our children from this idiot, Im asking for you to respect the small children and consider that your comments on these public forums are seen by and effect these kids! THats all. If it were your child your trying to protect you might think differently. If we as mothers chose to protect our children by not explaining what a monster Derek is, that our choice. IM ASKING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER HIS CHILDREN WILL SOMEDAY READ THIS!
June 14th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
@7 The longer a lie goes on, the more it festers. And the world could care less about protecting anyone. You better start facing the world the way it is, not the way you want it to be. And if you want to do those children a favor, YOU tell them the truth…before someone else does.
June 14th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
FYI…2 of his young children have attempted suicide due to his bullshit! a 14 yo and a 12 yo. I hope you feel better! Im not worried about my child,MY child is obviously stable. Im worried about the constant criticism his 2 little girls go through! not to mention every time you put shit about Derek on the internet you re-vicimize the child that was assaulted by him. BE RESPONSIBLE, don’t criticize me for caring about children that are constantly hurt by this idiot. This world isn’t your to dictate. Wether or not the mothers of his children tell the entire truth is up to us. His 6 yo can get on this page and see this crap, all of his kids can! BE RESPONSIBLE and care more about the children in this then your self serving comments!
June 14th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Um, Ms. B, I think you’re outrage is misdirected. You should talk to the child’s sperm donor about being responsible. We’re the only ones doing the responsible thing, here. We’re warning society about lying little shit bags.
June 14th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Maybe if you start directing your blame at someone who IS to blame, you might actually do some good. Child predators count on the covering up of their crimes to continue to victimize children. Only when people know who he is and what he’s done will he be stopped.
June 14th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
I only pray someday you don’t know how these children feel. Or that you are not in the position to have to try to protect your child from a man like him. These kids don’t deserve to read how you all just disregard their lives. I could care less about Derek….I care about the kids. Derek is back behind bars where he belongs! There is a great reason why he has never met my child nor ever had contact. But there are other children whom have suffered greatly because of him. I pray these children don’t read this and consider how cruel you have been towards their feelings. They are children…they don’t look at things so black and white. The understand things from a childs point of view. They don’t rationalize things like you do. Be kind, stop being such a cold hearted asshole. Your just as evil as Derek! And GOD knows you and only you are responsible for your actions whether you see the ramifications or not! And believe me, his 2 young daughters don’t deserve to hear what you have to say. They don’t know the worst of it, mostly because they have both already tried to take their own lives. Their psychologists are the ones that determine when and how much they know. How absolutely cruel of you to disregard the fact that these children are seriously effected by this. I don’t care if Derek is responsible, I don’t care where he is or what he does, I care about the innocent children he has wrapped up in this mess. Is he dishonest…ABSOLUTELY, he is a criminal, with a criminal mind. You can chose to stop talking shit and just take into consideration that children….his children will read this! COME ON! Is your opinion so important to put out there that you bare no regard to the children you are insulting and hurting…Just stop!
June 14th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
@14 The only information on this thread deals with forged military documents. No fewer than four other sites list his sex offender status.
You’re fishing in the wrong pond.
June 14th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Hate to tell you, but I’d rather know the truth about my birth parents (if I didn’t already) than have unrealistic expectations only to be let down.
And as far as the two girls, perhaps there are issues besides being teased as to why they’re “attempting suicide”? Have you or they sought counseling?
Denial of what this man is isn’t going to make it any easier for anybody when the truth is inevitably revealed. You may think you’re doing your children a favor by shielding them from the truth about their father. Let’s just put it this way–you’re not.
June 14th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
I agree with Ms.B. Just leave it alone. From a father with children and had a sister whom has committed suicide due to our fathers wrong-doings, Ms. B is right. @15 and @12 You need to read the pleas of this mother and hear her angst. She is only concerned about the children, not your freedom of speech.
June 14th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Thank you!
June 14th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
I’m curious–he’s in VA. You’re not. How’s that work?
June 14th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
So, just let the posers and shitbags get away with what they do? That’s the very definition of irresponsible.
And, no, ignorance is not bliss, it’s ignorance. As PN said in #15, you’re both fishing in the wrong pond.
This is about his military records, nothing more. See the last line of the article, “the little perv embellishing his record, and wearing uniforms and phony finery that he bought but didn’t earn”.
June 14th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
I have one child with him, he has never met my child, nor will he ever. I simply asked for you guys to be responsible with your comments, because of his other children. Derek has 5 children by 5 different women. The children or obviously in counseling, as far as myself…Im stable and so is my child. Thank you for your concern though. I am not shielding my child, I know what the other two mother have experienced finding their respective children in that state. I know what Dereks mother said on her death bed as she died of breast cancer. I know how embarrassed his own father is to have him for a son…the only ones that get hurt by your irresponsible, hurtful disregard to these children are the children. Not my child, the little girls and 2 little boys. I am not wrong in asking GROWN MEN to be responsible with your words. Who cares how YOU think this world should turn, and what YOU think is right when it comes to these children and understand their fragile minds. Put something bigger before yourself….the future of these children’s lives, including the one he victimized. I wish I knew the story on the sex offender deal, but I don’t…probably better that way. But consider that these kids don’t know how not to internalize this and take it all personally. Derek plays major mind games and has devastated these kids with the mess he has made. I would say what he has done to them mentally is far worse then forging documents…consider that when you again respond with your selfish rattling on how you think we as mothers should parent our children. Like I said, you will not see the ramifications of this…they see and feel it everyday.
June 14th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Can anyone say socket puppet…bad sock puppet. She didn’t even change her email address between personae.
June 14th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Jonn, no, I’m shocked…Shocked, I tell you.
June 14th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Why does it matter where I am..I said earlier, I have nothing to do with him. I don’t care where he is. I haven’t talked to him in 5 years, and haven’t seen him since before my child was born. I smelled a rat and ran from him. I wanted a better life for my child, that meant not having anything to do with Derek.
June 14th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Having children and grandchildren of my own, IMHO YOU are doing the children more damage than us. You say your son is in college yet knows nothing about his father? What are you telling him? A Forrest Gump, “Your daddy is on vacation.” What’s gonna happen when he does find out? Did his other children try to commit suicide because of their father? If so, I would suggest they already know what he is. You do know computers and ISPs have parental control features that can block sites, right?
Children are a lot smarter than you’re giving them credit for. When my four year old grand daughter started asking about my “I love me” wall (I’m a Marine Sgt), I explained it in a way she could understand. I told her, “A long time ago I went to be with a bunch of guys to learn how to hurt the bad guys.” Then we sat down and went trough my Recruit Training graduation book and photo albums. Between the photos and my explanations she understood at her level.
June 14th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
I am not in control of what the others have told their children. I only can control what I tell my child. Mine has never given a shit about his father. He has never asked and Im sure when or if he is ever interested he can figure out everything just as I have. He is secure with himself and with whom he was raised and how he was raised. I doubt he will get hurt by this as I come from a very stable and well respected family. All very deep in the military, in fact my father was a military magistrate. Both my parents are former Marines, and my father served in the Air Force, and Army as well As for Dereks 2 boys, I don’t speak to their mothers as often as the 2 little girls mothers. So I don’t know. My heart aches for the girls.
June 14th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
@26 If you check out this site a bit further, you’ll find out that the forging of military documents is only one example of a repeated pattern of criminal behavior. Very seldom is that the only offense; usually it’s the tip of the iceberg.
Exposing the fraudulent documents is sometimes the catalyst to exposing the other crimes as well. Domino effect.
June 14th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
@ NHSPARKY, Curious how you know where I am.
June 14th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
@John, how do you have my email address when the administrator states it will not be published?
June 14th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
@pinto nag, Derek started his criminal spree when he was 16. Ive never known anyone to NEED TO LIE like he does. I was afraid when he got out of jail in NOV, and knew he would continue. But I can do nothing.
June 14th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Because he’s one of the administrators? And because the IP address is logged (and only the administrators can see it)? And because its not that hard to trace back and IP address to a geographical location?
Those would be my guesses. This public service announcement saves me from having to be snarky about parenting.
June 14th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
SGT. Kane, Thank you for that. Then if he is soooo smart he should also know who my father is. I am contacting my attorney. Do your homework asshole before you threaten me! You know who I am and where I am? Cute! STALKER!!!!!
June 14th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
@32 Uh…B…IP stands for Internet Protocol. It’s your internet address, not your physical address.
June 14th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Oh, Noes. Jonn, another libel/slander/lawer lawsuit is coming.
June 14th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Apparently, idiotic assholes such as the perv in question attract other idiots (that would be you). I’m anxiously waiting for Jonn’s lawyer line post……
Now, as a mother of 4 who procreated with an abusive alcoholic myself, I can guarandamntee you that your projection of accountability on others not at fault only serves to exacerbate the degree of humiliation those children endure. Instead of saying “oh, don’t talk about it lest the children learn about the reality of the matter” – and at 14 and 12, they are ready for that reality – you should probably pull your head out of your ass and focus on helping the girls’ mothers show them that the crimes of the father are not the responsibility of his children, especially since your son has adjusted to well in spite of the shared DNA. Did you ever think about that?
June 14th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
At John the administrator, Ive gotten your numerous emails threatening me, and as you well know, you should not abuse the information you receive via your site i.e.. my personal information my home address and my name. You should not abuse access to my information to continue to personally email me and threaten me. Your threats via email have been forwarded to my attorney, and I would assume, if you know whats good for you, to cease all contact with me PERIOD! Its harassment and unprofessional!
June 14th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Yeah, crazy-ass threatened me by email after I didn’t immediately take down the comments that she voluntarily posted. And she claims that someone is sending her death threats…so yeah, the “sue TAH” line forms at 9 am at the Mineral County courthouse at nine on Tuesdays. Bring your lunch-it’s a long and unfriendly line.
June 14th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Wow is she crazy. Her email was never published, and she contacted you.
I look forward to getting the complaint stating a cause of action which is…..Who knows. Unprofessionalism isn’t a crime, even if her initiating emails and you responding actually qualified as such.
June 14th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Yeppers. It will also be interesting to see how someone who doesn’t seem to know what an IP address is plans to prove Jonn sent her anything. I’m guessing she’s not exactly an expert at interpreting SMTP headers, either. (smile)
June 14th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Jonn, I thought I attracted teh crazies, but I must now humbly bow to your superior abilities.
WE’RE NOT WORTHY!!!!!!!!!!
June 14th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Lady, put down the kool aid. Holy cow.
June 14th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
I guess you shall see. I never said I was receiving death threats. You are harassing me via email and now continuing in your thread. I guess that leave nothing more to prove. Your threatening emails and your harassment is enough. GROW UP and leave me alone. Emailing the administrator asking to remove my posts isn’t wrong on my part. After thinking about it I believe that in anger I may have said too much and defending children to a bunch of idiot bullies isn’t worth it. You enjoy bullying people from behind a desk…because you can. You sir emailed me harassing me. Once you speak about where I live and receiving threatening emails from you in my personal email account frightens me frankly….its absolute abuse. Your a liar and should be ashamed of how you treat people and need to cease harassing me! Its not a good idea.
June 14th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
I’m curious, why isn’t it a good idea? What are the repercussions?
June 14th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Out of curiosity, if your son has never known his father, why in the flying blue hell would he care if he is a fraud.
June 14th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
B-Ridiculous, please get back on your meds! At first you were practically crying begging us to stop, now it’s “…and defending children to a bunch of idiot bullies isn’t worth it.” Which is it?! While with the fire service, every person I served with would die trying to save/protect a child. I’m not talking about hurt feelings, I mean men and women willing to give up their lives for children. We thought it was worth it.
Also, if you knew this turd was a pathological liar, why did you spread your legs for him? It seems to me a normal person would run away as fast as they could. I met and married my wife while I was in the Marine Corps so she knew what kind of man she was getting.
WIERD.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:33 am
its funny how john has nothing to do with his spare time but build a website and bash on someone who plays no significant roll in there lives. stop bashing on this lady whom only means good by asking for people to stop making post suck as “why is he still breathing”. if you are going to abuse personal information which brakes privacy acts then she very well has a case. get a life. btw websites can be trased back to the computer that updates it. get off your high horse your not the only one that can use a computer
June 15th, 2012 at 2:48 am
So it’s our fault if your kids see this blog? Jesus lady, how about taking a measure of responsibility for your kids and paying attention to what they’re looking at on the internet? Stop trying to blame everyone else for your inabilities as a parent.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:55 am
im her son and all i have to say is shut the fuck up you dont even know what the fuck your talking about you just want to be apart of internet drama get a life
June 15th, 2012 at 2:55 am
Sure I do, I read the article
June 15th, 2012 at 3:02 am
then you should understand she has one child not kids she is not worried about me she is worried about my sisters which you odiously can give two fucks about so if you indeed read this article then maybe you need to put them glasses that are sitting right next to you on and reread the post. and here are one of your gay ass winks
June 15th, 2012 at 3:03 am
If she was concerned for your sisters she would pay attention to what they’re doing on the internet, or at least suggest that to the mother of your sisters. Lord knows what they’ve seen online.
June 15th, 2012 at 3:21 am
like i said pick those reading glasses up GUY my sisters not her daughters can you C O M P R E H E N D got to bed its past you bed time old man
June 15th, 2012 at 3:26 am
one lives in jersey and the other in ohio! why are you guys so mean to her she only was worried about what the children will eventually read now you are you are all attacking her like she is the convict. she would give her life for any child. you should all be ashamed of yourselves for attacking a mother just looking out for the kids in this.
June 15th, 2012 at 3:44 am
lol he went to bed, night stalker, old man, stupid lady, stalker number 2, supposed firefighter, o and derek who is behind bars where you belong leave my mom alone and that gay wink face again
good night
June 15th, 2012 at 3:55 am
Damn you’re stupid.
June 15th, 2012 at 4:09 am
you might call me stupid i call you ignorant you call yourself a man yet you sit on the internet reading dumb ass thread posting things about my mom that you don’t even know what your talking about . all she wants to do is get through that thick, and i mean thick skull of yours posting stupid remarks because when you get of your job all you want to do is go home look this stupid drama that has nothing to do with you and comment to someone when all she is doing is standing up for what is moral in this situation. put your dentures in that glass filled with that fizzing shit turn your lights off and kiss that lady next you that you can’t even have sex with, without viagra, and go to bed.
June 15th, 2012 at 4:13 am
idk why you call yourself a vet they just let gays in the military now that i think about it
June 15th, 2012 at 4:16 am
Agrees totally and wholeheartedly with #55. If you dont like it ‘that guy’ leave this thread….no one is forcing you to stay.
June 15th, 2012 at 4:40 am
no one asked for you response 58 mind your own business btw why are you all on a a thread about a child molester whom forged document. don’t you have a life of your own I’m not defending him but I’m defending my mom. it just occurred to me why your even on this thread….your balls haven’t dropped and your mom still has you stuffed away in the closet and your not ready to come out yet. i know this takes time but you’ll get over it…ok I’m tired of continuing with this I’m going to do “grown men things” so all you children can leave your comments but when it comes to it you wouldn’t say shit to me in person. good night and
thats for you redacted1775…ps don’t put your birthday on the internet people steal identities on this miracle called the internet takes time to get used to…don’t forget you have a alzheimer’s appointment in the morning
June 15th, 2012 at 4:41 am
start treating women with more respect
June 15th, 2012 at 4:43 am
you probably beat your wives, with the way you attack my mom. leave her alone!
June 15th, 2012 at 4:45 am
please don’t call yourselves retired military, its a disgrace to those who cherish the american way of life!
June 15th, 2012 at 4:47 am
#59: You just proved my point that Redacted made. This isnt about a child molester, get your head out of your 4th point of contact. This is about Stolen Valor. You obviously have never served ,so I will give you a pass at that. Again..if you don’t like it..leave.
BTW, your obviously immature personal attacks do nothing but make you look even less credible. Taking a page from your Mom’s posts… GROW UP
June 15th, 2012 at 5:12 am
@ 55 Redacted 1775, you hit it Bro! @ 48 he says, “…you dont even know what the fuck your talking about…” yet @ 54 I’m a “supposed firefighter”. I have no idea who this person is and I will swear he doesn’t know me. I also think B-Ridiculous is full of hot air. @ 7 she said, “My son longs to join the Marine Corp, and is currently in a University with a double major. Pre med being one of them.” No one this illiterate could possibly be in college and there’s no way he could pass the ASVAB. Reread his posts. Notice the lack of syntax, the lack of punctuation and the complete misuse of homophones. Finally @ 56 he proves his own stupidity. He doesn’t know the deference between ‘stupid’ and ‘ignorant’ and of course the use of profanities and personal attacks throughout seals it.
June 15th, 2012 at 5:29 am
This asshat is turning out to be more fun than Gunny Driveway!
Jonn, are there any “at large” bids available to the “McSoulpatch StolenValor Tournament”? Granted, he’s not a vet but his sheer stupidity and immaturity has to be worth something. C’mon tell me if he could con his way in to the military he wouldn’t be just like his father.
June 15th, 2012 at 5:33 am
So there’s a family of trolls out there vigilantly guarding the internet against anything that may offend some sensitive youngster at a future point in time? It’s like the a pre-emptive censor squad. I’d think that posts on TAH would be much less damaging that some of the websites you can find with 2 minutes of effort and a vivid imagination. Oh, and “that guy”….I hear playing in traffic is fun this time of year. Just saying.
June 15th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Uh, “that guy” . . . I think Jonn spells his name J-O-N-N. No “h”.
If you’re going to insult someone, it’s generally best to insult the right person.
June 15th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Great parenting skills, B-Responsible. You admonish us for daring to state that this guy has lied about his service record, because that knowledge could somehow hurt children. When people disagree with you, you go off the deep end and threaten Jonn with lawsuits. Then, because you care oh so much about what your children see on the internet, you bring your son in to troll the site. Classy.
Handle this privately, B-Responsible, so you can protect your child like the pinnacle of motherhood you claim to be. After all, we wouldn’t want him to pick up any bad language, or form bad habits, like slandering people by calling them gay.
June 15th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Now we’re “stalking” her. AFAIK, nobody has sent her an e-mail aside from Jonn. She’s using sock puppets, her “kid” who supposedly knows nothing of his father, but is in college, is acting almost with the same psychotic abandon as mommy. And none of these trolls knows how to construct a sentence worth a shit.
Fuck I hate when school’s out.
Hon? Nobody knows your name, nobody knows your address, unless YOU gave it up, and frankly, nobody here gives a shit. IP addressing can be notoriously inaccurate, particularly if using corporate servers, proxies, dynamic IP addressing, etc. It’s semi-useful to determine a rough geographic location or server admin/owner, and sometimes not even that if the user is using a proxy network like Tor (right, Dewald?)
Rose is a fuckstick, a walking shit-filled meatsack who is looking forward to many years of being ass-plowed by Bubba. Take heart in this knowledge. The fact he’s a rapist is serious, but the whole point of the original thread was the fact he’s a lying phony fuckstick as well.
But nobody is stalking you, sweetheart. Go back to playing World of Warcraft or whatever the fuck you and your buddies do when not huffing glue.
June 15th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Hey “Guy” thats right, they lifted DADT, now you can join and be your “fabulous self”. Like I said before, you’re fucking stupid.
June 15th, 2012 at 11:48 am
And the trolls, having baked their wee little brains on 4Loko and shitty herb, sulk off to their lairs to sleep until the crack of sunset, unencumbered by reality or the prospect of employment.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
I am shocked! While reading this I see a mother asking first for all of you to respect that this mans children will someday come across this and asking you to be responsible with your words. To her dismay you have continued to bash her, her character, her intentions, and her family. You have insulted her, taunted her, harassed her, and if you indeed contacted her through her personal email (due to information provided to you through tracing her IP address and information provided with the promise of confidentiality) to threaten her, and continue to harass her you are in violation of local stalking and harassment laws. And because its via internet, those violations may extend to a federal level. You call yourselves defenders of our freedoms, yet you have disgraced the military and our country by allowing this behavior to continue. In your sites “ABOUT US” you speak of honorable service, protecting our freedoms and those of the less fortunate, yet you have shown in this thread that you and your comrades are far less then honorable. Im disgusted with the way you have treated this mother and her child and how you have chosen to allow it, not just to continue, but you are the ring leaders. You in my eyes are just a disgraceful as the man you have featured on this site. You all should be ashamed. Men of your character are not credible.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Well, her son IS kind of an asshole.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
DO YOU BLAME HIM? He is defending his mother. Wouldn’t you do the same for yours? He obviously is upset with the way you have treated her. It seems her intentions are genuine to me. I didn’t read anything from her where she is attacking you or anyone else personally.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
I read her father is/was a military judge. A fellow “comrade”, and this is how you treat his daughter? I read he served in 3 branches of the military, her mother a fellow Marine. Just leave her be man. This is not how we treat each other. We support each other, we defend each other, we protect each other.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
This wasn’t about his mother until she (and him) made it about her. And besides, I wouldn’t have to do that for my mother because she’s not a psychopath and actually, you know, DID THE PARENTING THING. If she’s worried about some kids seeing what’s on here, then she should do something to make sure they can’t see it, not blame us.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Actually, they’re BOTH kinda assholes. No, wait–they’re not kinda assholes. They’re real assholes.
And as has been pointed out, mommy ain’t doing Junior any favors. She claims he’s in college, meaning he’s above the age of majority and can do as he pleases, including searching for his birth parents should he so choose. And if he finds out that daddy is a lying, thieving, rapist? Is that somehow our fault for showing other publicly available information?
Or should his ire be directed 1–towards said rapist lying thief daddy and 2–mommy who SHOULD have told the truth but chose instead to lie herself? Finally, Junior’s actions aren’t exactly resonating with the mature crowd, if you read his posts. I see that and I’m pretty much of the “fuck ‘em” crowd.
So yeah, mommy is butt-hurt because someone is going to tell the truth and she doesn’t think Junior is capable of handling that. Nobody is stalking her, nobody is threatening her, nobody gives two shits about her for all intents and purposes.
Have a nice day.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
And when one of our own conducts themselves in a way that is prejudicial to the good order and discipline of the armed forces(also known as fucking up), we hold them accountable. Could have sworn I read that somewhere….yeah. Who her family is should not be used as an excuse for her conduct.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Why do you care, why do you continue? I don’t see her blaming anyone for anything. You just made my point. DISGRACEFUL, DISHONORABLE, DISGUSTING.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Maybe you can read the original post. Tell us where the OP or any posts between then and “mommy” showing up were disparaging to her or any of her family.
Then you can kindly piss up a rope. And yes, she has accused people here of stalking and threatening, neither of which is true. My extent of questioning her story is wondering what contact she has had with Mr. Rose when she lives quite far away from him, and as such, it is incredibly unlikely that these children would be exposed to any media stories should they go looking for them. IOW, her jumping our shit for what are in fact publicly available records is kind of silly, wouldn’t you agree?
Unless, of course, “mommy”, “son”, and now you are just a bunch of bored 14-year old trolls who can’t find enough hentai pron on 4chan and have to piss your days away here. You pick.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
DISGRACEFUL, DISHONORABLE, DISGUSTING. Yes, they are, along with Mr. Rose. I agree completely.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
“Why do you care, why do you continue?”
This discussion was dead until she came in here calling us names. It’s been dead for days. Why don’t you turn to your right and left ask them why they care and continue since it appears you’re right there in their house, according to the IP address which is the same as both of them.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Aw, SNAP!!!
Guess I was closer than I thought with the 4chan crack.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
First, thank you “Shocked”, second, let me make myself clear. My child speaking to you last night was ONE of my children, NOT Dereks. He is the brother of Dereks child, and an adult. Free to do and say whatever he wants. My child with Derek IS in a University double majoring. And he is all any parent could ever want. All of you have taken this too far! Im NOT, nor have I EVER personally attacked you or anyone on this thread. @ Shocked…I am pursuing criminal charges as we speak. And the fact that this is still up actually has helped me. So I don’t mind if they continue. Because once criminal charges have been filed and the owners of this blog have been arrested for harassment, I will then pursue a civil action.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
This site has the very best trolls.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
You guys are sooo full of shit, and absolute liars!! When will you ever stop!
June 15th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
HERE COMES LIBELSLLLLLLLLLLLLANDER!!!!! Like we haven’t heard THAT one before….
June 15th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Identify the lies, B-Responsible. All I’ve seen is opinions with which you seem to disagree.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
John, why wouldn’t you provide me your attorney’s number? You claim and are sure your not harassing me, go ahead and provide me with the information so we can get this ball rolling.
June 15th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
June 15th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Yeppers. Three different personae by my count. (smile)
June 15th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Ya called it, Redacted1775. Anyone remember what the over/under was? 80? or was that another thread?
June 15th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
She doesn’t know any more about criminal/civil actions, than she does about computers.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
I am pursuing criminal charges as we speak.
Why would you turn yourself in for being a dumbshit? I mean yeah, it’s annoying and inconvenient, but not illegal last time I checked.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Pinto–maybe she can follow up with Blue Falcon and see how his ethics complaint to the MA State Bar is going.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Your attorney”s number? How bout a name…lets start there? Lets see whom is full of hot air….in all fairness, I don’t actually need it for criminal charges, my local police dept will take care of it. Then you can say hi to Derek.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
ooooooo…..
this is getting good.
screw All My Children
June 15th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
We need to have a competition for the best troll now. Seriously.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Troll–let me know how long that phone call to the PD lasts, and whether they hang up on you or you get tired of hearing them laugh their asses off at you and you just hang up.
And “B”? My attorney works at the law firm of Dewey, Chetham, and Howe. They’re in the book.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
B-Responsible: how about you just realize you’ve been acting like an irresponsible fool and “b-gone”?
June 15th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Let me make a suggestion John, contact your attorney first, provide him this thread, and the emails you have sent to me and see if he doesn’t raise his brow and tell you that your in violation of 2 states harassment and stalking laws….and if I have a case! DO that.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Might have been another thread Hondo, not sure, but this is the most active I’ve been on here in awhile.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
I looked at it. You don’t have a case.
I play a lawyer on TV which as this conversation goes is enough of a legal opinion.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
NHSparky: hey, I’ve heard of them – how are they? Thinking of changing to them from mine. I’m not really pleased with what I’ve been getting from mine – Alwais Plukken deKlientz, Esq.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Two soap operas going the same day??
Hand me the popcorn.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
You enjoy making an example of people, and honestly you are allowed to, but so am I.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Wonder if she’s made a chart yet.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Come on coward…Your attorney’s name…number? Im anxious to make an example of you.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Yeah, well, Antoinette, I’m a little leery about answering you because whenever I email you, you tell me to stop harassing you, although I’m just answering your questions. In fact, if I may quote from your last email;
I have asked you several times to cease contact with me and to stop harassing me. I would appreciate it if you could just give me your attorney info so I can forward an order. Thank you.
How do I answer that without contacting you? My lawyer has your email address along with all of our email exchanges (which you initiated with threats, I might add) and he’ll be getting in contact with you soon.
In the meantime, I urge you to file a complaint with your local police department. If you could get it all on video, that’d be great. You’ll probably be on Drudge with the guy who called 911 because the deli made his sandwich wrong.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Now, B, THAT was about the most sensible thing you’ve said since you’ve posted here!
June 15th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
..and then she goes off on the deep end again. Durn.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
And what example would that be, “B-Responsible”?
If you contacted Jonn to complain about comments here, that means you initiated contact – not him. And if he rather brusquely told you to get lost/grow up/whatever, that’s not harassment or stalking. And a site owner doing a reverse-DNS lookup to see where traffic to his/her site is coming from isn’t any violation of privacy. And as I recall, entry of an e-mail address at this site is voluntary and is not necessary for one to leave a comment.
Further: unless you have very strong proof that Jonn’s been harassing you, making an accusation of that nature publicly – as you’ve done here – could well be legally actionable. You might want to run that by your lawyer before you proceed further. If he exists anywhere but in your mind, that is.
You’ve been coming her voluntarily, as have “Shocked” and “that guy”. That would seem to rather undercut any case of harassment – since you’re coming here of your own volition and responding in kind, that rather strongly shows you’re voluntarily participating in a discussion. Don’t like what you read here? You can leave at any time.
And good luck proving the actual source of any e-mail you’re getting if you don’t even know what an IP address is or how to read an SMTP header. If you’re actually even getting hateful e-mail as you claim, that is. We only have your word for that.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Well now John, keep it coming… Im waiting for an attorney’s name and number. Im not willing to wait for your fake attorney to contact me. I willing to shut you up with reality.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
God Bless America.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
What the hell does “I willing to shut you up with reality” mean?
And being willing certainly doesn’t mean that you are able. You know, like I am willing to win a couple of gold medals at the Olympics this summer but it’s not gonna happen ’cause I lack the ability to do so.
Just so you know – coming into someone else’s “house” making demands does not obligate the owner of the “house” to anything. How does that reality work for you?
June 15th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
I’m guessin it won’t compute.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
I wonder how long before persona #4 shows up . . . and if that one will claim to be a lawyer?
June 15th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
For the entertainment of the crowd, here’s our whole email exchange from last night so they can all see what a cruel, vicious person I am;
comments = Your posting requirement state that my email address will not be published, and it was. I am receiving threatening emails now, and I am requesting now and officially that you remove my posts and remove the entire thread. It is a violation of my privacy as your site states that my email address will not be posted. If this post in its entirety is not immediately removed, or at least my posts which reflect my email address which includes my name, I will pursue a civil suit against you, the administrator as you misrepresented the fact that you will not publish my email address. As I stated, My email address reflects my entire legal name, had you represented that my email would be accessible I would not have posted. I am receiving threats, as well as the posters stating they know where I am!
comments = Just so you are aware…google Steve XXXXXXXXXXXX Republican Candidate for President! That is my father idiot! I have contacted him and if the thread isn’t removed a civil suit will follow promptly! I have printed off your comments as well as forwarded the emails I have received threatening me.
Ya know, dear, I was just contemplating how I could accommodate you and remove the comments you made voluntarily, but then I came to this message from you threatening legal action against me for things you did voluntarily. Your email address has not been published, that I’m aware of, and I’m not sending you threatening emails. If you think that you have a case against me, I urge you to contact any lawyer or government official you please. I revel in these threats against my blog.
Oh, by the way, I’ve sent this email to my lawyer, too. I know this is some kind of weird attempt to get me to take down the blog post about your baby daddy, and that’s not going to happen. you won’t be the first to try and coerce me, and it just doesn’t work. Maybe you should have tried a different approach, because I don’t respond well to threats and name calling.
Sorry (well, no, not really)
Jonn Lilyea
SFC, US Army
Retired
http://thisainthell.us/blog
Ive forwarded your email to my father. We shall see what happens from there. I would go ahead and contact your attorney.
OK, good luck.
Jonn Lilyea
SFC, US Army
Retired
http://thisainthell.us/blog
I have asked you several times to cease contact with me and to stop harassing me. I would appreciate it if you could just give me your attorney info so I can forward an order. Thank you.
Anything else you want to add, Antoinette?
June 15th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
John….your attorney’s number…name? What are you afraid of? That your actions might come back to haunt you…they will…I promise. Let just go ahead and show your buddies who is right. If your within your legal rights to harass me, stalk me, and now post my name then you have nothing to worry about. You will then be able to show your buddies just what a MAN you are. But if you actually HAVE violated several laws I guess I get to make an example of you. Ironic.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
No Hondo, it’ll be even worse. It will claim to be a Lawer, and have horrible spelling, grammar and complete lack of any type of punctuation.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Well, whatcha know – a spoiled brat kid trying to impress by throwing their daddy’s name around to get their way. Figures.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
B, look carefully. No address of yours is anywhere on this entire blog.
Jonn is not going to pay his lawyer to begin an action against himself on your behalf. That is YOUR attorney’s job. YOUR attorney can find Jonn easily if he needs to.
And you want to stop having contact with us? There’s a thing called an “Off” switch on your computer. Try it! It works like a charm.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Yeah, how many Presidential candidates do you know by the name Steve? TSO checked his campaign last night and his only campaign website is on LinkedIn – so you, know he’s a shoe-in.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Gotta ask. Is she seeing her own name and addie because it’s there on her computer? And she thinks that means the rest of us can see it, too??
We already know she’s delusional and all, but she also thinks we are all there in the room looking over her shoulder???
June 15th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Your cute ; ) . He took his website down probably 7 months ago. All he cared about was making a difference in this ugly world of ours, so please don’t attack him. He has honorably served 30 plus years, and if you do your homework, he has given so much not just to our country but to other countries as well. Leave my Dad out of this. Providing an email to include my name and private information sent to the administrator of a website has no business being posted just because you want to be an asshole John. My father has changed the life you had in the military for the better, and had been honorable in everything he has done. You are going way too far posting all of this information about me and my family so you can continue to bully a woman. I am nicely asking for you to remove my name and the email and my fathers name and handle this the right way. You have absolutely no right to post this private information about me or my family. Information you receive through a request as the administrator of this site does not negate my right to privacy. I didn’t personally email you, I emailed a request to an “official” operator of the blog.
June 15th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
There is so much deflecting going on in this thread!
June 15th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
What do you guys want? I simply wanted you guys to be mindful of the children, and I got attacked personally. I have not personally attacked anyones character on here and you continue to insult and violate my right to privacy. I am a mother whom cares about the experience these children have had and will have. How does that make me a horrible person? after asked relentlessly for you guys to just be nice, Im hit with a barrage of insults toward myself and my family. WHAT DO YOU WANT?
June 15th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
B, listen very carefully.
Only your first name has appeared in a post. Your contact name and address is not on here.
YOU brought your father into this and frankly, is not part of this discussion at all.
YOU ARE THE ONE CONTINUING THIS DISCUSSION. Jonn told you before; it was dead before you showed up here.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
I am not Derek. I can’t stand that man…I agree that he should be exposed for the disgusting POS he is, I simply asked for you to remember there are innocent children involved who will read this. John…do you want a public apology…IM SORRY, for whatever you feel I have done to deserve the way I have been treated. All of you…Just remove the shit talking and keep up what is pertinent, which is what Derek has done. This isn’t a pissing match of wills here. Not one person on here would appreciate this, looking at this from my shoes. Go back and read the first to posts of mine. Im simply asking for everyone to be mindful of the kids in this. A moment of humility, Please just delete all of this and call it good. You all have had your fun. Now lets grow up, myself included.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Again, WTF does your daddy have to do with any of this, woman? Are you seriously mental or did you just forget to take the plunger out of the shitter this morning?
To quote the mighty and brave Sergeant Hulka, “Lighten up, Francis.” Jonn owns the website, domain, what have you. Nobody published your e-mail, shared it, used it, and frankly, I’d be surprised if more than 50 percent of the e-mail addys here are real. And if you’re using your full real name in an e-mail account, well, there’s one reason why identity theft is so friggin easy.
FWIW, e-mail address requirements to post on a website was a result of COPPA and other federal laws. No board admin can remove that requirement, even if they wanted to.
And Jonn–Steve Forbes? Oh, we’re fucked now.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Please just delete all of this and call it good.
Uh, yeah, no. This shit’s pure comedy gold, lady.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
B-Responsible:
1. Your e-mail address has not been posted anywhere publicly. Period.
2. Jonn as site owner/administrator can see it. And if you contacted him via e-mail, well, you sent it to him as well.
3. You came on here reasonable if misguided. Folks here disagreed with you. You then misinterpreted a simple point (Jonn owns the site, so he sees EVERYTHING here) when Jonn called you on using multiple personae. You then went off the rails.
4. Since then, you’ve been acting like a spoiled child. Even allowing that “that guy” may be your son (which I frankly doubt), you’ve appear to have created at least one other persona here to bolster your argument. You then started being nasty and making wild, unsupported accusations and trying to use family for influence (“do you know who my father is?”). NOT mature behavior.
What do we want? We want for you to act like an adult vice a spoiled child. Specifically, you need to realize people here (a) disagree with you, (b) are entitled to disagree with you (c) are not harassing you, (d) your immature actions are provoking others to respond harshly to you, and (e) are attracting even more attention to this article – which isn’t going away.
Start acting like and adult, and you’ll be treated as one.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
One more time – It’s “JONN”, you retarded fucking cunt!
Christ, can you PLEASE just apply a 230 gr injection cranially and make the world a better place????
And if you TRULY cared one whit about your child or his siblings, you’d look into getting an education and bettering yourself. Now, step away from the effing crackpipe and keyboard for chrissakes.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
My Dad was brought into this when I sent a private email to the administrator to remove my posts. I did so because I recognized that in arguing on this thread I am subjecting these children to what I was asking you guys to be mindful of. I was 100% in the wrong even posting anything to begin with. I have victimized these children in this thread more so then you guys by even bringing up the children. Then felt this stupid desire to defend myself. And yet like an idiot, continued to argue. Im not proud of this in any way. In an attempt to then reverse my impulsive actions First nicely asked for it to be removed, then when I found out John was the administrator I got angry and felt to protect myself threatening him with a civil suit would appeal to him. It backfired. Now my whole family is drug into this. I except responsibility…PUBLICLY. John, Im sorry I threatened a suit, I didn’t know how else to appeal to you to remove the posts. This has gotten way out of hand, and Im asking, with humility and regret, please remove all of this.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
I’m fairly certain, Sparky, that it isn’t Forbes, but Colbert who’s her daddy.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
I did so because I recognized that in arguing on this thread I am subjecting these children to what I was asking you guys to be mindful of.
So basically you’re now just as guilty of the thing of which you accuse us. Bravo, hon.
And for the record, the, “Do you know who my daddy is?” card has NEVER worked. It’s only slightly less popular and successful than the, “Do you know who I am?” card, which only paints the user as a pompous douchebag.
I was 100% in the wrong even posting anything to begin with.
And yet here you are, still posting, still doing damage, still acting like an ass. Threatening to sue someone is silly, immature, and usually wrong. Should you have just walked away instead of pretending to be a bunch of different people, well….
But no, the damage here has been done, and the responsibility lies completely with you. Own it.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
I have.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
I agree
June 15th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
AHAHHAHAHAHAHA. This post has made my laugh-out-loud day, between Jonn’s sock puppet and “Dewey Cheatem and Howe”.
There are timeswhen I wish I were a shrink (non-science fuzzy subject that it is), so I could psycho-analyze this/these libturds/libtards/trolls.
It/they exhibit all the standard behavior of typical progressive liberal trolls.
They want YOU to stop talking & telling the truth — because it’s “for the childreeeeennnnnnnn”. Misdirection/Going off subject. Ad hominum, personal and straw man attacks. Threats of lawsuits. (Now if she’d threatened a CIVIL suite, she/they still have a leg to stand on, but it would be more believeable.)
B-R et al. . Shut up, cut your losses, and quit digging a deeper hole. You’re hoplessly out gunnedxandxout manned.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Damn, ROS – remind me not to piss you off. (smile)
June 15th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Dayum, see what happens when I’m gone a week? I miss all the good stuff….
June 15th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
I take full responsibility. :’(
June 15th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
And I add, anyone with more then three—no, make that two brain cells to rub together would beable to run rings around all’yo u’all. As I would say about about you, “isn’t that special” and”bless her heart”. Neither of which is meant as a compliment.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
I believe you can agree with me, Hondo, that stupidity should be painful.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
#139 & #143 are mine. Stupid non-bluetooth Kindle android tablet. Hate touch keypads.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
After that, who am I to disagree? (smile)
June 15th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
I dont deserve to be told that I should kill myself, and that I would do the world a favor by doing so. To be called a retarded fucking cunt…I have taken full responsibility. I have humbled myself and apologized. I never realized people could be so mean. I have never hurt anyone, and my intentions were genuine. you guys have a way of breaking a girl down into absolute tears. Im sorry.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
So all that crap that “she” was spewing to start with was a lie?
Meanwhile, the added conversation has pretty much guaranteed that this will forever be the first place a search will direct people. From now on. Yeah, forever more.
Happy with the outcome? Or are you only masquerading as someone/several someones other than Derek?
Crazy, man.
June 15th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
I just had to come and read this…. this is easily the oldest article still getting active posts. Wow, this is entertaining!!! We have someone who supposedly has only one child whio has said child refer to her other kids… a “double major” college student who evidently can’t spell, punctuate, or complete a sentence without profanity, and more wierd curveballs thrown than a Major League baseball game. It’s a pleasure to see the lunatic fringe and the walking wounded in the War on Drugs have become (sorta) computer-literate. Hell, I’m gonna bookmark this to see what kind of inanity comes next! (My money is on a terse “F*** you from her – just to stave off commenting on that one, please rewatch Dennis Hopper early in “Speed”)
June 15th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Dave, I have a couple of children, and only 1 is Dereks. My son that posted last night is NOT Dereks child. Derek himself has 5, that I know of, children with just as many mothers. My child being his first. He has two daughters that has at separate times attempted to hurt themselves. I can’t stand Derek and I have not had contact with him in nearly 5 years,(he contacted me) and haven’t seen him since before my child was born. His parental rights were severed when my child was born. Once I figured out what he was about I ran….later to find out I was pregnant. I was a child myself. He has never been a part of my childs life, and my child with Derek is a double major in a University. He has not read this, but Im sure inevitably will, and I AM NOT proud of my impulsive actions. My husband responded this morning as “Shocked” in an effort to defend his wife.
June 15th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
gawd. I go get my sister from work and its STILL GOING ON!!
Man.
I am telling ya. Only the very best.
June 15th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Ma’am, if I could make a (hopefully) helpful suggestion – by this point you would probably accomplish more by ceasing to comment. Derek has chosen to lead the life he has, and you have obviously decided to exclude him from yours and your son’s. You have no way to control what other people think, and cannot be responsible for whatever interpretation his other children may have of his behavior. Verbally attacking Jonn for having made public note of Derek’s transgressions is like getting angry when a light exposes cockroaches – the issue is not who is holding the light, it’s the cockroaches.
June 15th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Seriously, B? Grow a set. I’m a chick and would never be reduced to tears by someone (online, no less) telling me I’m acting like a flaming imbecile and using rhetoric. Perhaps the problem isn’t that your child has a larcenic pedophiliac as a sperm donor, rather that you’ve a thin skin and absolutely no sense whatsoever if your behavior is any indication.
That said, if your child is as adjusted as you’ve indicated and you’ve so much contact with the mothers of those girls, perhaps you should suggest that they convey to those young adults and adolescents (12 and 14 are NOT children) that which you’ve done raising your own son, as well as a strong emphasis on the fact that they are NOT representative of their father and are not doomed to turn out as he has. Seriously, you cannot shield teens from reality and not expect them to be more harmed by finding out truths from sources other than those in whom they’ve placed their trust.
And if you have to be told repeatedly how to spell a 4-letter name that’s plastered all over the page, being referred to as retarded is relatively mild.
June 15th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Your right. I will take your advise. I respect that everyone has an opinion and are free to voice it. I need to add, I don’t disagree with posting what Derek has done. He is disgrace to his country. He needs to be exposed. He honestly should never be allowed out of jail, and I said as much in a letter to the courts years back. I was wrong in believing I could protect all of his children by appealing to all to be mindful..it only caused a tsunami. And for that I truly am sorry and regret ever posting. I guess its something I can’t take back. Ive spent the afternoon crying and that can’t be good for me or my children.
God Bless, and THANK YOU for your service!
June 15th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
I’ve not served; thank those posting above.
June 15th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
B, it’s an open blog, and you’re free to post like we do. And I’m not sure who you think is posting here, but there are both active and retired military members, as well as civilians, both men and women. We’re blunt to the point of being harsh. It’s not meant to be personal. We deal in truth, some of it very unpleasant. It’s a good site to learn about military things if you’re interested, and you will definitely get a perspective you won’t find in the mainstream media.
June 15th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
WTF….wait a minute I get in here late…read all 154 post..even spew drink when I see the taunting puppet..get to 153…start to lick my chops…then comes post 154 and she signs off!!
Oh hell no!!!!!!
June 15th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
B-Responsible, my suggestion is to just go away and STOP posting. If you do this, then this thread will eventually go away to the bottom of the pile and people will post on other subjects.
This is good entertainment though.
<— Just a fat guy laying on his couch with a laptop.
June 15th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
What a disgraceful way to behave. The woman said she’s sorry, took ownership and she is met with more taunting and vile comments. This is honor? This is valor? Regardless of who started it, each of you has the power to be the man, accept the apology and move on in a dignified manner. Perhaps what’s most disturbing to me is that some of you appear to believe that people killing themselves is the answer to a problem or that death is an answer to someone who bothers you. If you don’t like them, they should just die. What a horrible thing to say to anyone. Frankly, I expect better behavior from grown men. The “she started” argument doesn’t fly with me. You can CHOOSE to be the bigger person and not perpetuate this disgraceful and disgusting pissing contest. Consider this. Is this the example you want others to see you by? This discussion started as a result of “stolen valor”. Is this the conversation you want Americans to read and be proud to call you Geri’s and veterans? From where I sit, this is such a poor example of our patriots in battle. I would hate to be serving and read this. And to Jonn, as Administrator, you have and have had the power to end this dispicable discussion a long time ago. That you let continue for days speaks volumes to me. Before you want to reply, I WILL do none of you has seemed to be able to. I will simply ignore you. Whatever insult you want to hurl, hurl away. I won’t take offense, because clearly its the only way you people know how to communicate.
June 15th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
“The Three Faces of Eve” has nothing on TAH for multiple personalities, let me tell you what…
June 15th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Jonn! What’s the IP say on this one? Same, or different?
June 15th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
By chance does Gabby have the same IP as B?
June 15th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Gabby.
If you hadn’t figured out yet this site is a MILBLOG…meaning military. Run by a retired soldier. Most of us were or are soldiers, sailors, airmen, or Marines. Or even the spouses of such.
This means….it’s going to be a little rough and tumble because…well..that’s how we roll Those that can sack up and stand it…live on to tell tales of daring do. Besides…you came here to our house. We didn’t go to yours.
If you can’t hack it….the door is to your right. Don’t knock over the chips as you pass by and make sure you have a designated driver if you partook too much.
Thanks for stopping by.
June 15th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
I’m going to put a dollar on “same”, PN.
Man, I’ve heard of bi-polar disorder, but tri-polar??? Wow.
June 15th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Well, it certainly looks like someone doesn’t understand the concept of hyperbole for dramatic effect . . . .
June 15th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I suppose saying “up the road, not across the street” would be completely lost on them.
June 15th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Holy crap this is hilarious.
June 15th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
@ 160 PintoNag!!! Do you know how much beer stings coming out yer nose?!? Holy Frickin’ Bat Copters, that stings!!! That’s funny, I don’t care who you are!:)
June 15th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Sorry for the loss of the brew, Yat Yas! Should we ever be in the same neighborhood, I’ll provide a replacement!
June 15th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Gabby,
Please allow me to make an observation. Admittedly I’ve had the privilege of being a member here for a very short time (6 months?) but I don’t recall ever seeing your ‘tag’. Maybe it’s just me.
That being said, Steadfast&Loyal hit the head right on the nail. We are veterans, active duty and spouses who tend to play a little rough. “We” have at each other all the time, mostly in jest but, honestly, sometimes not. We call each other names and put down each other’s branches because we’ve earned the right to. We’ve “been there, done that”.
If you have read other threads here, you have seen that many of us are working on or have graduate
degrees. There are a few post graduate degrees and even a JD! Again, if you have read other threads here, you have seen that there have been some very intelligent debates. Regarding this thread, after B-Responsible’s original post, the answers she got were honest and courteous. Because she didn’t like them she started with the sarcasm and insults finally deteriorating to empty threats. Only after she realized her threats were useless did she apologize.
If you want to come here and debate a topic in a respectful, civilized manner you are more than welcome. If you want to come here and get “down and dirty”, get ready for pure hell because we know ways of getting “down and dirty” in ways most people can’t fathom.
Your opinion of my valor, patriotism, honor, etc., means absolutely nothing to me. I am speaking strictly for myself, but until you’re one of “US” you don’t know what you’re talking about.
June 15th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
No, GABBY is not me., nor anyone in my home. Jonn can tell you that but won’t. “Up the road, not across the street”…Another suggestion to kill myself? Really?!? It is mind boggling how you all treat people. I am a mother whom happened to google this idiots name to make sure he wasn’t anywhere near us, and I come across this. Im not military, Im not a soldier trained to have a heart of stone. Im a Girl Scout Troop Leader. Im a mother whom has spent her life dedicated to my children. Am I soft, absolutely, I cry when kids cry because it breaks my heart. I have raised my children to be kind, respectful, honest, and a friend to all. Is that your cup of tea, probably not…but I don’t deserve to be insulted and told to kill themselves repeatedly because you disagree with me, my choices, or how I have or will handle something. I can have shit spewed at me with no regard to the human that is behind the title B-Responsible. I have taken responsibility and explained my position the best I can and it gets twisted every time. Because its fun to you. I don’t get pleasure from another pain. But then again, I also didn’t take into consideration at all the type of people whom are on here. I have had a few kind words, but mostly just people chiming in to insult someone they don’t know, because its fun. And yes, I do know a little about IP addresses….One of the administrators sits in a little office right next to DeVry University in Minneapolis MN and the other in Scotsdale AZ…but Im rather new at this, being Im just a stay at home mom, focused on raising good productive members of society. At least I try to. I figure our future depends on having some kind people in this world. Come on.
June 15th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
PN, you owe me a cup of coffee, too. I go power wash one deck and miss out on all the fun.
ROS, I think we’re at tri-polar and waiting.
June 15th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
I have never blogged before nor did I take the time to check out the site before responding..Thats my fault. I was raised in the military but was never privy to the bantering back and forth between the military personnel. So I guess Im just not used to the bluntness. PTO meeting, and troop meetings is what I am accustomed to. I guess I have learned my lesson.
June 15th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Folks: hope Jonn doesn’t consider this speaking “out of turn”.
One of the bennies of being allowed to post articles here at TAH is the ability to see the comments and associated info. No, “Gabby” is not a sock puppet for B-Responsible, and he/she doesn’t appear to have been here before. He/she is just an (IMO) misguided tourist.
For what it’s worth: I personally think B-Responsible is back on the right track now. Yes, there will be a few more comments by latecomers to the thread. But I think maybe it’s time for the rest of us to back off.
An unsolicited opinion, so give it whatever value you like.
June 15th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Hondo, for what its worth I appreciate you. Thank you.
June 15th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Here’s a clue – you are not blogging now, B. You are posting comments on someone else’s blog.
Again, don’t try walking into someone else’s house dictating to them how to behave in their home. If you have any manners at all, you would not do that face to face – why would you expect different results in cyberspace?
No, Hondo, no passes coming from here. It doesn’t matter to me who someone is or what they claim to be. When you act like a jerk, you will be called a jerk in this company.
Now, if this little sideshow has finally ended perhaps we can get back to the topic inside of all this drama?
June 15th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Frankly, I was not directing that comment toward you, rather speaking generally, if you care to take a look at its context. Again, see Hondo’s prior reference to hyperbole. Its nuance seems to be lost on the majority of this topic’s new posters.
Have you never been told to get squared away before a boot is shoved so far up your ass you’re spitting toenails for a week? It’s much like that and translates to “No, I do not actually expect you to kill yourself, but you do sound like a jackwagon and need to step outside the box and get unfucked.” I thank you for doing that already.
June 15th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
UpNorth, anytime you’re in the neighborhood, coffee’s on!
B- Here’s your first lesson. You’ve just been subjected to what we call “the dogpile.” As in, when dogs fight, they end up in a pile. We don’t hold grudges, and like I said earlier, if you want to post here, go for it. Be straight with us, and we’ll be straight with you. Mess around, and you WILL end up at the bottom of a snarling, snapping, slobbering pile of folks who will tell you where you stepped off the trail. Believe it.
June 15th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
I wasn’t suggesting a pass, OWB. More like a cease-fire.
Suit yourselves, ladies. But I really never saw the point in continuing to beat on someone who (1) has already surrendered, (2) has admitted they were wrong, and (3) is trying to get up so they can walk away and “fly right”.
It’s kinda hard to “go forth and sin no more” when those beating you won’t stop beating long enough to let you get up off the ground to “go forth”.
June 15th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Based on the subsequent discussion, I think I have a clear understanding of what goes on here. I’m sorry but being military isn’t an acceptable excuse for poor behavior. I know many military folks who would find the sort of “dogpile” you describe just as distasteful as I did. This may be a military blog but it is open to the public. When you call yourself veterans, your behavior reflects on other veterans. As a member of the public the impression I just got of veterans is pretty poor.
I’m all for respectful discourse. Its an American privilege I engage in regularly. But this was not civil discourse. One could argue it wasn’t discourse at all. I can speak and argue intelligently. I’m glad that there a few who saw that the discussion had degraded to a low point.
But perhaps the best solution is to close the group so people don’t just wander in, kick of their shoes and make themselves at home in “your house”. If this were a blog run by professionals they would never had allowed things to go that far. I know that some of you think this sort of behavior is ok because it’s all in jest. But then we go back to this being open to the public. So when you leave the front door open, don’t expect to keep the neighborhood rif raff from coming in and drinking your beer and having their way with your daughter. If people who can’t “sak up” arent’t welcome, then close the door. But don’t hide behind being in the military as defense for this sort of behavior. I would like to believe military servicemen and women understand that there are different rules of decorum when in an open public forum. If it isn’t supposed to public then your administrators should close it to members only.
June 15th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Sweet blessed virgin…………..
June 15th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
She’s all yours, Hondo. Before I say something that WILL degrade this discussion to a low point.
June 15th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Hondo, you’re right. It’s time to let it pass. For my part, I’m 10-24.
B-Responsible, your post @ 171 seems to make your apologies “crocodile tears”.
In the first line you say, “Jonn can tell you that but won’t.” Is it just ‘possible’ that Jonn might be previously engaged?
A couple of sentences later you say, “I’m not a soldier trained to have a heart of stone.” We’re not
either, we’re trained to control our emotions.
A bit later you say, “I have raised my children to be kind, respectful, honest, and a friend to all.” yet your son “that guy” called me a liar and was most disrespectful to men he’ll never be equal to.
Your very next sentence says, “Is that your cup of tea, probably not…”. You admit this is your first time in our home but you get to make remarks like this and it’s OK?
June 15th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
I swear to God, it’s like watching a kid get ready to pet the snarling dog. You try to get there to stop them, telling them all the way……
But, hey, this thread’s gonna go over 200 now.
June 15th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Not you, Yat….
June 15th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Yeah, look, I’m not closing this board to members only…ever. The door to my house stays unlocked, too. No one has ever walked in and started drinking my beer and putting their feet on my furniture.
And when someone comes on the blog shaking their finger at us and telling us what to do about our business, they should expect to be dogpiled. This lady tried to bully us and she couldn’t. Yes, the situation escalated as the day went on, but it didn’t calm until she backed off from her untenable position. She wasn’t the first and she won’t be the last.
But I don’t think anyone has anything to be ashamed about today. When you poke the bear, you’re going to get growled at.
Funny how it’s always the veterans who are supposed to turn the other cheek. Like when we were criticized for GOE I and counter protesting the hippies at the Wall.
June 16th, 2012 at 12:22 am
Gabby, what kind of commune do you live in, where it’s perfectly OK to “walk in, kick off their shoes and make themselves at home in “your” house”? That sounds like the kind of behavior that would tend to get you a black eye, or a fat lip, at best. At least in respectable neighborhoods.
Oh, and as a veteran, the impression I get of the public, daily, is piss poor.
June 16th, 2012 at 1:04 am
@180- Being a civilian isn’t an acceptable excuse for poor behavior, either. B came in here, offered her opinion, and people disagreed with her. Then she made sock puppets aimed at supporting her opinion while attempting to shame us for having a different opinion than hers. When that little ruse fell through, she threatened lawsuits, her family members called us “fags” and attempted to shame us into silence by bringing her father into the thread on a “don’t you know who I am?” gambit. THAT is what prompted some of the more colorful remarks. A threat, and bigoted language from the oh-so-respectful B camp.
B has since gotten over her initial emotional response to a simple disagreement and her subsequent behavior, and apologized. That was fine, and should have ended the thread.
You, however, wish to sustain this ridiculous discussion while employing a condescending, chastizing tone. Most of the more regular posters, myself included, have treated both you and B with kid gloves. But my patience is wearing awfully thin. Keep on wagging your finger and clucking your tongue at us. See how that elevates your precious discourse level.
June 16th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Nobody likes a condescending busybody, Gabby. That’s exactly what you are doing here.
Your opinion is noted – and it will be ignored. TAH is not a child’s tea party or a church social. It’s a somewhat “rough and tumble” blog run by a military veteran, about military and veteran’s issues, and has a largely military and/or veteran readership. Discussions here get “colorful” and contentious at times.
Not your cup of tea? Fine. But don’t come here and castigate those who choose to participate. You’re not going to change TAH. Just leave.
Because if you continue to act like a condescending ass and a busybody, you’ll definitely get treated like one. And getting told to STFU will likely be one of the milder things you’ll be told.
June 16th, 2012 at 8:10 am
GDIAF being somewhere around a 4 on the “holy shit did they just say that to me” scale. STFU is about a 2 1/2.
Gabby–behavior, whether you approve or not, is not up to you to moderate or judge, particularly here. Yes, most of us are vets here. Some are knuckle-dragging grunts like Jonn, etc., some of us are more “refined” (ha!) “nook-ye-lar” trained folks like myself and teddy (among others.)
But one thread remains constant among us all who come here regularly–we are professionals as members of the military, and remain so as members of our respective civilian communities and in our careers. For all the touchy-feely shit that comes out of the five-sided funny farm, at the end of the day, being professionals, we recognize the fact that the mission comes first.
As such, when it gets down to the nitty-gritty, we have no time or tolerance for petty bullshit. Ruck up, get the fucking job done, quitcher bitchin, and move on. This has translated into “real” life. I look at civilians who are more concerned with how people “feel” than actually accomplishing something. This is actually counterproductive, in that while you’re lying on the couch lamenting why the color yellow makes you sad, your ass is being handed to you (figuratively and literally) by people tougher, stronger, and more willing to make the sacrifices needed to succeed. Yes, it’s important to be emotionally stable. But getting in touch with yourself or sheltering one’s feelings at the cost of all else only makes you a jackwagon.
This is what we (or at least I) saw in B–instead of facing reality and coming to grips with the fact that her baby daddy is a worthless POS that her kid (and all his other kids) are going to have to find out about someday, she’d rather shelter his feelings, which judging by his comments, he’s more than capable of expressing himself, although not very well or intelligently.
Dogpile or not, you have to put on your big girl panties when you wander in here, just like you have to have them on in the real world sometimes.
June 16th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
First off, I would like to say that all this lady was asking for was to shelter her kids. Yeah it may not be the best decision in the world but nobody is perfect. I am Derek’s first son. I never had that much interest in him to begin with and I knew he was an idiot and he did wrong to many people. In my opinion he is a disgrace to the uniform that is our military and the United States Marine Corps in of itself. She was just trying to protect myself and his other kids and there is nothing wrong with that. It’s maternal instinct. There is absolutely no reason to bash her because you dont disagree. And being of a military background, which I understand most of you are, you should have approached this with more professionalism rather than attacking someone who is trying to protect the ones she loves. It is the same job you all do except you do it with bullet proof armor and an M16 in a different country. That said I praise your sacrifice and I will most likely be joining the Marines within the next couple of years. But she was simply trying to protect us and last time I checked that isnt wrong. Maybe she didnt need to lie. Nonetheless, it is not your place to give advice or criticism because we are not your kids. I am successful so far in my life and I owe a lot of that to this woman. It doesnt make her a bad mom, an idiot, or someone who would be doing the world a favor by killing herself. She loves her kids as do all of you on here who have kids themselves. When it comes down to her parenting, pick a different battle to fight because it makes you look like a know-it-all douche bag and it doesnt accomplish anything. I understand this forum is to inform and converse about the military and problems within the military from it as a whole to certain individuals. If someone asks you to simply watch how you respond then you can either respect that or ignore it. But, it is not your place to lash back with an argument. She is a wonderful mom and a wonderful person who had sex with this man when she was 17. She had no idea how stupid or crazy he was as this has happened in the past 18 years AFTER she had sex with him and gave birth to me. So get on with your lives and on to more legitimate and valid, meaningful arguments and lay the fuck off my mother and my brother. Its disrespectful and its not professional as I would expect from military men. You’re, in essence, fighting against the very thing you fight for.
June 16th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
@180 & 191: As a father and grandfather I can understand wanting to “protect the chillrin”. The other part of that is in order to protect them from what they may see on the internet is to do the job of a parent and monitor what the kiddies are looking at on the internet. My own children, when they went on the internet, were monitored by me. They knew that if they wanted to be on the internet, they had to do it in front of me. What they looked at when they were with friends or somewhere else outside my purview was out of my control and I had to rely on the lessons and advice they were given by me, their parent. The illogic of asking others to censor themselves in order to protect the kids isn’t what this country is about. We are not here to censor ourselves and we get a little uppity when someone thinks they have some moral authority to either scold us, or tell us we can’t have a discussion because someone, somewhere has the possibility of going through the motions of finding out something. Then, for that person to lecture us and make a weak attempt to shame us as being unprofessional, etc., because of what we say here to someone that thinks they have a say in what we talk about is rather arrogant and condescending. Also, what we fought for was our right to say whatever we want, just as we fought for you to have that right. Whether we agree with you, or not, we fought for your right to say it. That’s liberty. What you are proposing through veiled references to what you think rises to your standard of professionalism is actually censorship, as in, I don’t like what you said, so you aren’t professional and you need to stop saying it. Sorry, but that ain’t how it works. How it works is if you don’t like what is said, then don’t come here. It’s really that simple and that, too, is liberty.
June 16th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Sorry, 192 is me.
June 16th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Im not asking for censorship and to a large degree I agree with you. I never said you and others on here didnt have a right to say what you want to say or have an argument. I honestly believe that these rights you fight for are what sets America apart from many other nations. All I was asking was that instead of having an argument with my mother just go about your business. I was simply asking that there be no more argument, not that people censor the words that come out of their mouth. At that point the right to free speech becomes clouded. I have no problem with what people say in relation to the article and about other issues but attacking my mother was unnecessary. And maybe that is just me and I have no problem if you disagree. And as far as professionalsim is concerned, I wasnt saying they arent professional because they had an argument.But the few who decided to use choice words and make certain accusations and advice as how my mother should kill herself need to be more professional because new people to this site dont know the military families and personnel from the random commentators like myself.
The internet today is so accessible that it is difficult to monitor kids and what they see and have access to. Im not saying it cant be done but its certainly significantly more available than it used to be. Eventually I may have found out but to me it doesnt matter because I dont care about him or his actions because I want nothing to do with him.
Like I said earlier I just want to reiterate that I was not asking for censorship but that the people on this website are bigger than the argument if you will and choose not to get into it. It was a pointless argument that provided nothing for the article that this specific blog is about. All I was asking was that people choose their battles. I dont think anyone has the right to come in here and dictate what can and cant be said but they also have the right to do so. Its a catch 22 if you will. I see where you’re coming from and I see your argument. You have right to say what you want to say, as do I. My point is simply that the argument that came about the proposition of censorship was pointless. It could have easily been ignored or respected at the everyones discretion without another word.
June 16th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
As pointless as I think this will be: chargerpride, this will likely be difficult for you to hear. But, bluntly, your mother drew the ire of folks here by acting like a bit of a fool. Her first few posts here were reasonable. When she did not get the response she expected, she became belligerent, threatening, and started behaving like a spoiled child throwing a temper tantrum.
Let me state this clearly: your mom actually threatened the owner of this site when he would not remove this discussion from his site. The proof is above. You can read it yourself if you like.
To her credit, your mom eventually realized she was the one out of line, and quit acting like a spoiled child. She owned up to her errors, and has since been silent. That all occurred 20+ hours ago. And with the exception of a few comments, no one has castigated her since. She’s been generally left alone.
Your comments here are understandable, and are in one respect commendable – hell, every son wants to stick up for their mom. But they’re misguided. And they’re also keeping what was a dead discussion open and active where more will see it. In short, you’re being counterproductive. You might be best advised to simply let this one go.
June 16th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Does anyone else find it amusing that on his sex offender register page, there is an advertisement for “Want a Girlfriend?”
June 16th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Hack Stone: yep. Sometimes real life scripts something that you’d never buy coming out of Hollywood. (smile)
June 16th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Seriously, the pussification of this world is going to give me a coronary.
Are you really so stupid that you seriously think my prior comments were a request for your mother to kill herself?? As the spawn of a Ranger and drill instructor, I highly suggest you grow a set, let them drop, and maybe invest in a few more layers of skin (and grey matter) before you enlist.
Jesus. Now type “google.com” into your address bar and do a search for ‘hyperbole’. Yay!!!
And yes, your suggestion for those posting here to just not respond is suggesting those people censor themselves.
June 16th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
ROS, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. I never asked he people on this blog to censor themselves. Im sorry but I tried to see things from your point of view but I just cant get my head that far up my ass. I said everyone has a right to say what they want…THEN I simply stated that arguing against my mother was POINTLESS and that you didnt have to listen to what she asked, which was to censor yourself, or ignore it. That is not asking for censorship. That is saying pick your battles. Its called getting your fat ass off the pedistole you’ve put yourself on. I never asked anyone to censor themselves but simply to not make an argument out of something so pointless. And ROS, I never said YOU were the one threatening my mother. So dont start jumping to conclusions. And I assure my balls have dropped and Ive stepped up to every challenge in my life and over come challenges. Thats why im going to join the Marines. And when I am done with boot camp I am going to become a Navy Seal. How about, you go about doing your job and Ill go about doing mine cuz im not worth your time and you’re not worth mine.
Hondo: I see your argument. And maybe I am being counterproductive. That was never my intention. I just wanted to point out that the argument in the first place was pointless and unnecessary. I realize I may be stirring up a bees nest again but why does it matter? Im not going to argue with fools who think they’re above the rest because they are a drill seargeant or served in the military. Ive stated before that I have nothing but the utmost respect for those that serve in our military and I strive to be in the military one day. But I see your point about being counter productive and I apologize. I also see how my mother brought it upon herself and I never said what she did was right. I simply stated her INTENTIONS were in the right place. Granted, I realize good intentions doesnt make things right.
On a different note. Derek deserves to be in prison. He needs to get his head on straight and I think any military man, woman, and family could agree that he does not represent our military or the USMC itself. Semper Fidelis (always faithful) he has not been.
June 16th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Takes after his mama in the verbose catagory. Good thing he’s not paying by the word, or he’d have to take out a second mortgage by now.
Hey, and we’re at 220 posts! Woohoo!
June 16th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
“Thats why im going to join the Marines. And when I am done with boot camp I am going to become a Navy Seal”. So, you joining the Corps or the Navy???
I just knew this would make it past 200 posts.
June 16th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
that’s “200 posts.” sorry.
June 16th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Rather a difficult career path to follow. Even folks from the Air Force can see that!
(Pssst. Wanna bet he will blame the recruiter?)
June 16th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Perhaps content mastery is not your strong suit, chargerpride. As it was I who suggested facetiously that a 239gr injection would solve our little problem here, it is I toward whom your statement was directed. I applaud you your devotion to your mother and unwillingness to see her at odds with big meanies, but perhaps she would be better served if you were to concentrate on your studies and allow her to fight her own battles. I would quote you verbatim on your suggestions regarding how others should act and censor themselves, put those comments in bullets and address each one using words containing 5 letters or less, but I’m fairly certain you STILL wouldn’t be able to follow the yellow-brick logic. And now would be a perfect time for you to stand down and allow the adults to converse amongst themselves, boy.
That said, thank you for your willingness to serve your country, and I hope you’ve the testicular fortitude to see those aspirations reach fruition.
June 16th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Son, I love you tremendously and I am incredibly proud of you and the MAN you have become. I know YOU WILL make a tremendous difference in this nasty nasty world. You have NEVER not accomplished what you have aspired to do. Your Grandpa served in the Marine Corp, Army, and Air Force…no worries there.
June 16th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
chargerpride: There’s an old saying, youngster – “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.” Might want to keep it in mind. The world generally pays off based on actions, regardless of intent.
And there’s a second saying, somewhat more recent: “You got to know when to hold ‘em, know when to fold ‘em, . . . .” A somewhat more modern version of “pick your battles”, if you will. You know that one, but you apparently don’t know how to practice it. Until you do – see the previous proverb.
You’ve indicated you want to serve. That’s commendable, and I wish you well if and when you do. And I commend you for defending your mother. But your judgement here was IMO somewhat lacking.
That’s OK; you’re young. Judgement comes with age and experience. Just try to learn from others’ mistakes as well as your own. Successful people do so.
One last point: you should really watch your use of language, spelling, and punctuation if you want to be taken seriously in life. It’s “pedestal” – not “pedistole”. People notice such errors. I’m frankly rather surprised ROS didn’t rip you a new flatus vent for that.
June 16th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Hondo, I respect your ability to look at this from all sides and I respect that your advice to my son doesn’t come with such a harsh lashing. Im sure his road to success in his personal journey to defend and protect our country won’t come easy and frankly the things said here are far less traumatizing then what he will hear in the military, more specifically boot camp. He can and will succeed and I pray he has leaders such as yourself by his side guiding him.
June 16th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
It was tough, Hondo, but I feel a bit sorry for the little bugger, being a mom and all. I believe with a bit of tutelage from you and the guys, he may be able to see the error of his ways and level-up his maturity pack.
In all honesty, however, I’m reticent to believe that the entirety of these posters are not all 1 person, given their tendency to push the same points to redundancy, syntax and grammatical structure, and attitudes toward those who believe them in error.
June 16th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Super space marine seal orbital commander…
Doesn’t anyone ever join to be a crank or the guy who counts the powder bags?
This thread delivers.
June 16th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
ROS, for the sake of making some sort of peace in this, I assure you we are not all 1. There are great things that came from this posting stuff. Such as I talked to me son about Derek. My son has overcome everything put in his path and more then excelled. I recognize that the hard core, knuckle dragging, take no shit guys out there are the ones the are going to lead my son to do amazing things for our country. Its what makes our soldiers strong and more then capable. You all were right, about everything. I just need a tougher skin, as you reminded me often. But there is a place in this world for those softies such as myself. Im used to the kinder, gentler side of the world. Mostly NIEVE.
Heres a question that I need your help with. I was looking at the punishment for stolen valor. I heard it was before the Supreme Court but not aware of any outcome. I haven’t been able to locate a definitive answer on the punishment. I know Derek, he will just move to a different state and pull the same crap. Take advantage of the kind hearts that feel sorry for his lies and stories and take advantage of the programs put in place for assistance to help the real heroes? Is there something put in place to prevent him and others from continuing this game. I found that he may face up to 10 years for not registering as a sex offender. But that is just not enough IMO. He isn’t one that learns from his mistakes. What you guys have seen of his behavior and games is just a small part of what he done. Is there anything to prevent him from going to another state and doing it again? Because he will.
June 16th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
B-Responsible: The SCOTUS decision on the SVA is expected sometime this summer. If the SCOTUS upholds the SVA, false claims of military decorations and badges will remain a Federal misdemeanor (6 mo to 1 year in prison and a fine, max). If the SCOTUS doesn’t uphold the SVA, they’ll revert to being nothing but non-criminal lies.
Whether the local US Attorneys choose to indict and prosecute may well be a different story. Some will, but others will doubtless feel they have “bigger fish to fry” and that it’s not worth the time and resources required.
As I read it, false claims to have served that don’t include a claim to unearned badges or decorations are not criminal under the SVA and won’t be even if the SCOTUS upholds the SVA.
June 16th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Is altering his DD214 punishable?
June 16th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Different question, but I’m pretty sure that’s a crime under a different part of Federal law than the Stolen Valor Act.
June 16th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
I sent a text to my Dad with the same question. I figured since there are victims, the assistance programs he has taken advantage of, that they could prosecute. But they may just have to pursue him on a civil level, if its worth it to them. I feel compelled to lay out a list of crimes for the judge hearing his case now, so that he has at least a few road blocks. Unfortunately he absolutely will keep doing it, and Im afraid he will only get a slap on the hand and be let loose. He will continue lying and abusing assistance programs and on a sick note, he will always be looking for his next “victim” through dating sites and such. Thats just how he operates. Master manipulator, narcissistic.
June 16th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Charger- the path to a SEAL team does not start at the Corps. Join the navy if you want to apply for the teams.
You seem to be an ok guy, so I’ll give both you and your mother a breakdown of what went wrong here:
The lawsuit. Sockpuppets are a plaything on the internet that generally, when discovered, earn their creator some ridicule. B had some blatant socks on, and responded to the ridicule with what we here at TAH refer to as “an average weekday”. Threats of lawsuits are routine occurances here at TAH, because of the admin’s relentless drive to expose military frauds. The TAH community has seen scumbags of all shapes and sizes threaten people here with lawsuits, in an attempt to shut down the investigations into fraudulent disability claims, false claims of medals, or because it threatens their scams on charities.
Your mom, B, unwittingly joined them in spirit when she started her lawsuit routine. That kind of talk around here earns a special place in our hearts. It means that we know that you know you’re in the wrong, but are choosing a laughable attempt to violate our rights via the justice system in order to silence us. ROS, perhaps because she had taken a different approach to this “motherhood” thing we were accused of not knowing anything about, had a lower threshold of tolerance for B’s bullshit, and treated her with all the due respect that anyone else who threatens lawsuits earns around here.
B acted exactly like we would expect your assbag father/ex to act. B only got a taste of the usual TAH response in return, and only from one or two of us. Take it and move on, or stick around and join in on the future fun. Your choice. If you are indeed considering the Corps or the navy, charger, there might be some people here that you wish to speak with at a future date. We have vets and active duty from all branches here, as well as some spouses who have seen the other side of deployments.
June 17th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Teddy996, Your right
. I did not act right. I appreciate your advice. He is a good kid, he would appreciate any advice or guidance you guys could provide him. If you knew him, you’d embrace him knowing he will do great things. Not a thing like his sperm donor. Super super smart, resilient, and grounded. I couldn’t be prouder!
June 17th, 2012 at 12:16 am
Probably just community service for altering DD214. That just doesn’t seem right!
June 17th, 2012 at 12:21 am
I realize the path to becoming a SEAL does not start in the Corps. I just have history with them and when I initially join that it where I would like to go. I apologies for me mistakes. I am only 18. I am book smart, studying pre-medicine with a minor in physics. But as stated above I have a long way to go and I realize. I am driven and I would appreciate the chance to talk to some people on here about my future in our nations military. I apologize this got so out of hand and obviously I love my mother and would defend her like I would defend my country. Like I said I am young and I have much to learn I just ask that this argument stop. It isnt doing anything productive and I realize that statement is hypocritical since I rekindled the argument. I am will ing to put it in the past though and hopefully get useful contacts and information out of this
June 17th, 2012 at 12:32 am
It appears, Charger, that the argument HAS stopped. You’re talking with us now, not at us. That makes all the difference in how we will talk to you.
You’ve found an excellent site here for information about the military. There is a vast array of knowledge here, on almost anything you want to know about.
June 17th, 2012 at 12:44 am
Thank you PN. I appreciate your kindness as does he…sorry for speaking for ya son
June 17th, 2012 at 12:45 am
I was a Seal during WWII, ask away.
June 17th, 2012 at 12:47 am
Charger, You’re going to face some negativety when your intent to enlist becomes known. The best advice I can give to you about joining the Corps, is to do it for yourself, make your own decision; not because someone is talking you into it, or trying to talk you out of it. Never lose your sense of humor. If you don’t have a sense of humor, get one. Learn our core values, leadership traits and principles. And if you believe in them, don’t settle for merely being able to recite them from memory, LIVE them. Stay away from the malcontents, you’ll meet alot of those, but you don’t get ahead in this business by being a part of the crowd, rather by standing apart. Bring your “A Game” every day. Most importantly, when you progress in rank, do everything for the Marines under your charge, never for yourself.
June 17th, 2012 at 1:09 am
On a serious note, Charger I think you have what it takes to be an excellent Marine. Continue to live a good life. Never settle for less than exceptional moral character from yourself and those you choose to be around.
June 17th, 2012 at 2:59 am
If anyone is interested, Derek was originally charged with receiving stolen property, and will face 2-5 years on that charge. He has now been transfer to the Prince William jail where he has been additionally charged with a class A felony, Fraud/Forgery looking at 10-15 years for that and I assume he will also be charged with parole violation and an additional charge for knowingly/willingly not registering as a sex offender. Quite possibly a repeat offender sentence enhancement. I think he may just be in jail for a long time now
June 17th, 2012 at 7:52 am
chargerpride: Acknowledging that you were out of line is the act of someone developing maturity and good judgement. So is returning to a discussion as an adult after going off the rails. Good to see that. Some 50-year-olds can’t do either.
Regarding your future service – my advice would be to choose the branch of service you join based on what you want to do vice history. Look into each branch carefully. If you’re interested in special operations, for example, each branch has forces devoted to that mission. But each is different, and does somewhat different things, is based in different normal areas, and has a different lifestyle and career pattern. Being happy in what you do is far more important that family history. It’s your life, not your ancestors’.
I note that you’re shooting for a pre-med major. All branches also have medical school programs. Unless you want to be special operations medical, pre-med isn’t a typical field of study for someone considering special operations service (if there even is anything approaching typical for special operations – from my limited experience, they’re quite a varied bunch). And the service medical school programs, though intensely competitive, are a major financial help in getting through med school.
And if you’re serious, and want to lead as an officer, you need to check into the services’ various commissioning programs quickly. ROTC programs are there, but getting into one requires some work and admin prep time. They’re not the only path to a commission or to leadership, but they’re the most common one for those who want to be officers.
Best of luck, son. You already appear head and shoulders better than your biological father. Keep working at it.
– break –
B-Responsible: thanks for the update. That’s good to hear. Would you happen to have a link to that info? If so, Jonn or one of the other contributors here may use info from that link to write an update on your ex. But if it’s based on external news, we generally need a link to original source before we can do that.
June 17th, 2012 at 9:00 am
B(Toni)–is there any way you would be willing to contact me? I am the mother I Derek’s youngest son, and one of the few that helped to expose Derek. As an update, Derek was transferred from Prince William/Manassas jail on 06/12/12 to Rappahannok Regional Jail, where he was bonded out that very same day. I am unsure of where you received word of his charges, however, when I spoke with the jail’s inmate coordinator, I was told that he was arrested for petty larceny only.
On a separate note, I do have to say that I am very thankful for TAH, Mary and her team at POWnetwork.org and for the guys at Stolen Valor for working so hard and diligently to expose this scumbag as to who he really is. Unfortunately for Derek, if and when he finally moves on to another state, it will only be a matter of time before others uncover the lies that are Derek Kent Rose.
June 17th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Here is the link for Derek’s current charge:
http://epwsgdp1.courts.state.va.us/gdcourts/captchaVerification.do?landing=landing
Type the security code given in the box. Once directed to the search page, select the “Spotsylvania County General District Court” from the drop down box. Next, select “Name Search”. Last name will be “Rose”, first name should be “Kent”. You will then see a list of both archived and current criminal charges.
Hope this helps!
June 17th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Not sure if this is the Mom that contacted me 5-6 years ago and I told to run run run?? If so, Hi sweetheart I hope you and the baby are doing fine. If not, Nice to meet you. I don’t mind at all if you contact me. Im just not sure how to get you my info without publishing it. I simply called the Prince William Jail last night and spoke to the officer. I called the Rappahannok Jail last night, for a list of charges. The officer explained that Derek was no longer there, that he had a bailable charge but that he was transferred to the Prince William jail and additionally charged. I then called the Prince William Jail they explained that yes, Derek Kent Rose was indeed there and when I asked the current charges the officer said he was being charged with a Class A felony, Fraud/Forgery. I did have a difficult time getting information. Im assuming, after reading your post, that is probably because he is using his middle name as his first. The assumption that he will be charged with parole violation, and knowingly / willingly not registering as a sex offender, and a sentence enhancement of repeat offender, well thats just my assumption based on my experience in and knowledge of the court system. It may be different on the East Coast. The parole violation and other possible charges will likely come once his parole officer and the DA have a chance to sit down and go over evidence and current charges. He currently has a ZERO bond at Prince William. The number to the Jail I called to get this info is 703-792-6420. I will create an email address and provide it here for you to get into contact with me.
June 17th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
mommagrizzley706@gmail.com you can contact me there provide a phone number and I will contact you.
June 17th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
I had to keep hitting 0 to actually speak to someone, otherwise its a never ending, repeating, answering service trap. Try that if you have any issues.
June 17th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Sweetheart, I clicked the link and those charges and hearings are from back in 08. Call the jail and talk to them as they will give you current info. In the Rappahannok Jail he was charged with Receiving Stolen Goods. And additionally charged In Prince William with Fraud / Forgery Class A. After doing a little more research, it appears the Fraud / Forgery is more then likely a Fed charge. I was confused with the classification because the State of Virginia uses Class 1,2,3 etc for their felony classifications, Class A,B,C etc is for Federal charge classifications. When I asked the officer if Class A was the highest felony classification, he replied yes. Granted these are charges, not convictions. The conviction will likely be a lower class felony. They often charge high to leave room for a solid conviction with a plea bargain. Im not sure why so many jails, with different charges…Im not on the East Coast and I know they do things a little different then where Im from. Could be because he has several crimes in different counties. Again, an assumption. It is all rather confusing. Different name, different jails.
I look forward to speaking to you and hopefully these boys can get to know each other. My son, as you have read, would be a VERY GOOD influence for his lil bio bro.
June 22nd, 2012 at 3:59 pm
I must say. It has been a very long time since I commented on this blog, and I need to let this out.
This thread had me rolling. Troll galore.
July 3rd, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Me, too…nothin’ more needs to be said:)
July 7th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
I must say Derek kent rose is a lier n a monster . I hope he goes to hell and burn , god is big and Derek will get his judgement day .
July 7th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Straight up Man Hole Inspector.
July 9th, 2012 at 8:28 am
[...] 3 Jason “Prison SEAL” Truitt v. 14 Thomas “Colonel, Lawyer, Minister, CEO, Phony” Hughes 6 Derek Kent “X-acto knife Recon” Rose v. 11 Ronnie Glenn “Wheelchair Security Guard” Eddings 7 Ronnie Glenn “Wheelchair Security [...]
August 12th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
I’ve enjoyed this quite thoroughly. Thanks, all. On a side note – ScalpelShepherd, not calling you out – but there were no SEALS in WWII. Maybe you got the Vietnam War confused with WWII. Or were you in the UDT’s in WWII? Scouts and Raider’s? Just wondering.
August 21st, 2012 at 11:56 am
Derek rose Kent is out of jail
August 21st, 2012 at 12:04 pm
That’s not even his real name you can find him on at least three dating sites right now.
He goes by the username DKR2034 on plenty of fish, skout, okcupid.com someone from off
One of the sites told me to look him up on Google so I did . Derek was talking to one of my friends ,but
As soon as she was told he was a sex offender my friend wants nothing to do with him.
August 28th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
#180 is an awesome post. I’m very thankful to Gabby for making it because it clearly illustrates a problem civilians are sometimes blissfully unaware exists.
They want a guard dog in the yard and a lapdog in the house. Then they get upset when their lapdog gets poked and shows their guard dog side.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:37 pm
I’m new to this site and this is my first post but I think Gabby is a fool. Just because we are military doesn’t mean we can’t speak our opinion. No matter how much it may ruffle her sensitive feathers.
September 10th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Taking a look at his DD214 (both of ‘em), the separating location is NAMALA – the NAVY AND MARINE CORPS APPELLATE LEAVE AUTHORITY” at the Navy Yard in DC. That’s where folks’ records go awaiting punitive discharge while waiting final outcome of a courts-martial. Just some free info is all.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
This asshat is nothing more then a common criminal. I do not volunteer at my Church’s homeless soup kitchen because every single male homeless person comes on to the staff with some version of the Marine Seal Ranger SF sniper classified DD214 secret MOH citation PTSD story. Makes me wanna puke.
October 24th, 2012 at 5:48 am
If any of his children are old enough to be on a computer and searching the internet for his name, they are old enough to know the truth and be warned about the kind of person he is and his antics.
P.S. I contacted B-Responsible regarding Derek. I am his latest victim. No answer. Interesting…
November 7th, 2012 at 6:33 am
wow, this has to be the most dramatic blog post ever. One minute we were bashing a valor thief, then being accused of some craziness, jonn was threatened with a lawsuit, n important father was mixed in, life lessons were taught, hilarious insults were delivered, multiple personalities showed up, A sock puppet appeared, and then everyone is back to normal. But not like a ” before the craziness” normal but a “present day Chernobyl” type of normal. Good stuff.
November 7th, 2012 at 6:38 am
but not like a “good” good stuff, more like a “I just took a sip of really strong whiskey and I’m trying not to cough or cry” good stuff. Let me know if you have any questions, I probably won’t answer you.
but not like a “maybe” probably won’t answer you, but more of a “definitely” probably won’t answer you.
Squid.
November 16th, 2012 at 11:46 am
I just found this blog and wish I had found it sooner. I too was taken in by him though thank god not romantically. I wish that they was a law that would put him behind bars for the lies and stories he tells about being a Marine with PTSD/TBI. He is a disgrace and I hope some marines run into him soon and take care of this POS. Right now, months later, he is still free, not in jail. He in only charge with receiving stolen goods under $200. I am hoping that its enough for him to be put back in jail forever but I doubt it.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Is this guy really who you all say he is? Im just curious how he is free if he has done so much wrong.
December 13th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Well he went to court for the felony that he was picked up on in the summer and the courts decided Nolle Prosequi, not to prosecute so he remains free, now in Prince William County and I am sure scamming a new set of victims.
December 21st, 2012 at 10:48 am
I’m just wondering like 248 says. If he has done so much Wahabis he not in jail forever? Sounds to me like he got involved with the wrong girls and there trying to slander him and his name. That’s only my opinion. I mean I’ve seen girls do crazy thithingsm before and this seems like hydrants know another and are trying to all they can to make him out to be a monster??!!? I try not to judge a person till I know the facts and to be honest anyone can alter a document and say someone else did it right??? So why are we all assuming this guy did it?? Just because someone said he did?? I don’t know seems far fetched to me. Like I said I think these people have it out for his guy for whatever reason and that’s sad. They act like thy have no time for anything else in there like.
December 21st, 2012 at 11:46 am
@250- Which one of those crazy girls posed for that fake mugshot?
January 3rd, 2013 at 11:50 am
If someone else did in fact alter his DD214, that still doesn’t excuse the fact that the original still states that he was just in food service for 2 years and then was kicked out of the military. He claims to have earned all these medals but you can purchase these medals and I’m thinking that’s what he did. I don’t know, maybe he is just trying to learn from his mistakes and move on and just live his life. One thing that is unsettling is he is STILL telling these sobs stories (according to afoolalso) that are not true. By telling these sobs stories, Im sure he has financially & emotionally gotten support for free and has taken that support away from REAL wounded warriors and service men/women that deserve it. I hope whatever or whoever he is comes out, whether it be good or bad. If good, I hope that he can live his life peacefully and that everyone leaves him alone. If bad, I hope that he gets what’s due to him.
January 29th, 2013 at 11:21 am
@252 That’s true but how are we to know that the original IS in fact the original?? Seems there’s a few girls out there who want to get back at this guy cuz he pissed them off or they weren’t happy about something. On the site the one ex provided it said the charge he was accused of was dismissed. So seems these charges are trumped up due to the eyes. It all seems all intertwined to much here reading through all this. I don’t think for one sec that he did all this and is still free. I don’t believe for one sec that the ” original” here is the real one. It seems they are just trying to run his name in the ground. That’s a terrible way to get back at someone.
January 29th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
youdontsay: Uh, maybe because the DD214 labeled above as “original” is consistent with the FOIA extract below it – which came from the US government agency that has archival responsibility for his records?
Believe what you want. You’re the one deluding yourself.
By the way: that separation code of “JJD2″ on the original DD214? That’s for “Involuntary Discharge (Other)” as the result of Special Courts-Martial (SCM). The only involuntary discharge that a SCM can order is a Bad Conduct Discharge.
February 10th, 2013 at 5:53 pm
Well I hate to add insult to injury to Mrs B, but this Rose guy is now dating a girl with a 5 year old child. The Grand mother is worried sick over the abuse charges. Can someone, anyone here tell me exactly what he was found guilty of so I can pass it on to the grand mother? This is why it’s a good thing that TAH posted this Mrs. B, now you have another child that may be in harms way.No need to post the charges here, but if you could just email me at fred.campell@us.army.mil that would really help. John, you and I have spoken before via POWnet, so you know I am not some scam.. Thank you
February 19th, 2013 at 10:54 am
I was able to call the courts in WV and they sent me the came outcome. And also what the charges were and also the report fir the police. Seems there was NO child involved. The report states he was at a party in Hancock county and there was Drinking involved he was sleeping when a girl woke him up kissing him. The girl was 15 hardly a five year old. He was charged with a misdemeanor 61-8b-9 a charge punishable by 90 days in jail and court cost. And thats what he was given. SeSees like a lot of ppl are blowing this whole this way out of proportion. He’s bot a child molester as some of you claim this is all the work of some very mad girls and a lot of smoke and mirrors. I think its all crazy. But I can email the documents to anyone who wants them.
February 24th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
[...] a month ago, a few individuals showed up to comment on Jonn’s Derek Kent Rose article from 8 1/2 months ago. At least one of these individuals appears to be defending Rose. In [...]
February 26th, 2013 at 2:31 am
@253- it doesn’t take a genius to figure out the extensive list of crimes Derek has committed. Whether you believe what is written and documented or not, the facts have been provided for you out right, as well as numerous links to additional information. There is no excuse, period, for his decisions and ultimately, his actions, toward a 15 year old CHILD. You state “the girl was 15, hardly a 5 year-old”–are you off your rocker?! I sure hope you were not blessed with any children…especially if you are comfortable enough to write the above statement. Utterly disturbing. On a side note, instead of making yourself look ignorant defending him, maybe visit the “Virginia Court Case Information” website, and search Derek’s name…. I’m certain that will entertain you for a few hours.
February 27th, 2013 at 1:29 am
I did not know the details of the sex abuse charges and was concerned about my two-year-old grandson. This douchebag was putting him down for naps and telling us when he should go to bed and when he should get up. I didn’t even know him and was surprised by his taking charge of my grandson having been a stranger to us. I just wanted to make sure he wasn’t making excuses for spending more time with our little man. Just the fact that this scumbag is registered with the VA State Police Sex Offenders Registry should send my daughter running in the opposite direction, regardless of the circumstances. Rose is a master at his game , and my daughter believes everything he says. Can someone repost the link to Rose’s old Facebook page that had all the pictures of him in his uniform, in combat, etc. Thanks.
February 27th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
His old Facebook pages were already exposed. It wouldn’t be hard for her to search his name via Google. Derek Kent Rose in Virginia will bring up plenty for her to be entertained by for quite some time! He is def the wrong person to have any child around. Very controlling and unpredictable. Good lunck to you both.
March 3rd, 2013 at 12:36 am
@ youdontsay,15 is still a child sicko, I have an 11 year old daughter, your telling me that in a few years it will be ok if some sicko touches her??? You are just as sick as Rose!!
March 20th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
Let me start by saying that i personally know Derek. And when i discovered his lies with the help of our mutual friend, the same excuses he had given “crazy ex girlfriend” is strangely familiar to YOUDONTSAY…. So guess what folks, youve been tslking to that sociopathic scumbag the whole time.
March 20th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
Heres his address from the Virginia sex registry is:
122 Tremont Street
Manassas Park, VA 20111
540-846-8843
March 20th, 2013 at 10:18 pm
Cool.
March 21st, 2013 at 9:23 pm
I was fooled by him too. When is he finally going to get punished for this?!? Someone needs to do something about this scum!
May 4th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
I have something i would like to share, Dereck K rose aka as sicko , came into our life and we fed him gave him a job and felt bad for his sorry ass , in his returned he stoled from us made our life a living hell and to top it off killed my cat. There is much more I can say about him. that sicko of a man well i wouldn’t call him a MAN. made our life a living hell , God help him, he has hurt so many people… GOD HELP HIM !!! HOPE HE BURNS IN HELL……
May 12th, 2013 at 3:31 am
Derek is now married to my sister and has been for months. We are just finding out about him. Is he dating anyone right now? He has an excuse as to why he can’t move to California . I am worried for my sister and niece. Please reply to ftautoinc@gmail.com. I need anything you have
May 13th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
He’s dating lots of women right now
May 13th, 2013 at 8:47 pm
This is all comical anyone can say anything on here and you people believe whatever anyone says on here you people need a life.
May 13th, 2013 at 9:02 pm
youdontsay: I find it revolting that you’re coming here to defend someone who’s a registered sex offender and child boinker.
Perhaps you need to find yourself a better life.
May 13th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
@269.
Clown.
May 13th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
“you people need a life” I ordered one from Amazon just last week but it’s on back order. Why don’t you return yours? You don’t need it.
May 13th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
I saw the court documents from his charge it said nothing of child molestation and people what to coke one hee and make up crap about a person they never met or from ex girlfriends who have a video and make different profiles to comment on here to make it more realistic for them what a bunch of crap all of it and the exs nine different names she has on here pretending to be other ppl
May 13th, 2013 at 9:42 pm
Its all public record if you call WV state police and the court he was charged in
May 13th, 2013 at 9:50 pm
So you are saying that the county that convicted him lied about it? If I am not supposed to believe their official records, why should I believe you, or whoever else you are referring to in your screed above which really could stand a bit of punctuation and/or capitalization with a bit of spellcheck thrown in just because it is available, out there, free, easy to use, and would cause immense improvements for the reader of whatever it is that is quite inexplicable as you wrote and presented it as well as being rather indecipherable assuming one is able to decode at least some of the misspelled words and assorted errors in use of syntax, grammar, and word usage throughout.
May 13th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
youdontsay: You should learn to speak english, boy. Try that one on for size instead of telling people to “get a life”
May 13th, 2013 at 9:52 pm
people what to coke one hee
What the fuck language was that? Apparently it doesn’t make use of capitalization or punctuation.
I have to wonder, who is more needing of a life? Is it us, or the person who has nothing better to do than tell us to get one?
May 13th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
I have no clue what that guy was trying to say in comment 273.
May 13th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
@278
That’s ok. They don’t know either.
May 13th, 2013 at 10:26 pm
Yes you all need a life instead of spending your lives here
May 13th, 2013 at 10:28 pm
And I have had breakfast in bed!!! So don’t know what you are referring to with that one
May 13th, 2013 at 10:35 pm
@81.
Why don’t you have Derek douche your spunkhole and get back with us next week.
Loser.
May 13th, 2013 at 10:36 pm
Isn’t that special? Someone left their web browser unsecured at the home and one of the inmates is posting.
May 13th, 2013 at 10:36 pm
@281.
My bad but I get to add another comment.
Make sure he wears gloves.
May 13th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
I have had breakfast in bed, too!!!!
See, at least those words strung together make some sense. How they relate to anything is yet to be determined. We may not even be referring to a similar kind of event.
May 13th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
I was referring to the multiple people on here that don’t know what they’re taking about ny boyfriend makes my breakfast in bed on Sundays all the time I have a life and you yuts come on here to try and blackmail people
May 13th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
LOL Breakfast in bed…what the hell.
Someone is off their meds.
May 13th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
What does Breakfast in bed have to do with anything? Blackmail people? You must have a comprehension problem…show me where this occurs please.
May 13th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
Holy shit that meth is a hell of a drug.
May 13th, 2013 at 11:32 pm
Sunday was a long time ago.
May 14th, 2013 at 12:32 pm
I don’t do meth what I do is none of your concern all I see on here are people running there mouths about things they know nothing about ex girlfriends with a vindictive additude I mean b responsible is still longing after this gut after decades and the others I don’t know but seems to me there are a lot of people making up stories talking to each other then coming on here on different names to stir things up to keep a blog going thats discusting that you have nothing better to do with your life then to constantly go after this MAN. Its unbelievable if he is not in the ex gf’s lives why not leave him alone why keep going after him makes no sence at all.
May 14th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
But the fact remains, you’re doing SOMETHING that’s affecting your higher cognitive brain functions.
And that’s all that matters, right?
May 14th, 2013 at 12:37 pm
@273
Under WV law..
“A person is guilty of sexual assault in the third degree when:
•The offender is 16 years old or more and engages in sexual intercourse or sexual intrusion with the victim who is less than 16 years old and who is at least 4 years younger than the offender. This also includes mentally handicapped and mentally incapacitated victims.
May 14th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
seems to me there are a lot of people making up stories talking to each other then coming on here on different names to stir things up to keep a blog going
For someone who doesn’t like “people running there mouths about things they know nothing”, you’re sure guilty of it.
You don’t KNOW that what you’re claiming is true, yet here you are, running your suck over it.
Hypocrisy much?
May 14th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
How youdontsay does it:
1. Steal can of Alphabet soup
2. Go to TAH
3. Open can
4. Pour soup in a comment block
5. Hit submit button
6. Hope letters form words
7. Feel better about self
May 14th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
@295.
That’s funny.
May 14th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
@ 291 … what did you say?
May 14th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
Good one, AC!
Meanwhile, GT, Sparky? You been using multiple names pretending to be somebody’s exes? Then maybe deleting those posts prior to submitting them??
The up side is that most of our pet trolls seem to have gone into hiding lately. We may need a new one and seem to have an applicant. Or a new name at least.
May 14th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
It would be funny, Green Thumb – except I’m thinking she’s Rose’s current G/F. IMO, that makes it sad vice funny.
“youdontsay” – an adult banging someone who is underage is by definition “child molestation”. See 28 CFR 549.93.
Someone found guilty of doing that is a sex offender. That’s apparently precisely what Rose was convicted of doing. And from your comments above, you know that – and are willing to give him a pass.
If you’re indeed his G/F (or one of his “stable” – by all accounts, Rose indeed “gets around”) . . . well, maybe you two deserve each other.
May 14th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
I ran across this blog by accident its been a very long time since I have seen Derek. I was engaged to him alond time ago when he was in the military. I had been in contatact with him for along time up until about four years ago. He has told me several stories of his dealings with some of his ex-girlfriends and what not I never knew that there could be as brutal and vindictive and sour people as these women are. They truly do need to let things go and move on from him. As was said it looks as thought they make names to further slander and add to this persona that they are trying to paint on here. I knew about Toni and what she did. About his so called son he had with her. That I find hard to belive from her side. She was with Derek when he was 17 then moved to CO then two or three months after moving there called to say she was preg. He wanted a DNA test and that never happened. That is the story that he told me. I also say some letter from here that where a year or two old that confimed what he had told me. Now I see she is on here trying to say differently. I also see looks like one or two of his other ex’s commenting on this blog. Theres alot to read. I have heard about Jill and Whitney in my talks with Derek all were about the same. How they BOTH cheated on him. One with a guy the spent 9 months in NJ prison for selling drugs inn a school zone. One other cheated on him with a guy she met at her work. I dont know the whole stories just what I was told by Derek. I was called by Whitney a few times before But she wanted to know how I knew Derek. I told here I was a friend and it was none of her buisness. They all want to paint pictures of themselves as model people they are far from it. Im just surpirsed as to what I have read to this point. I guess Im not understanding. They obviously have the clan on here going full force at him to say the least. I can make out some one the people on here by there stories. Like Toni and Whitney and maybe Jill now. he was with Toni in 93 Jill in 02 and Whitny in 05 a hell of along time ago. So my question is if you knew he was a registered sex offender then why are you now just speaking about it? If you had such a huge issue with it then why date him have kids by him ect ect? you wait till he is long been out of your life and contact eachother to put all this togehter. It shows on here. With the email me here so we can talk….. Anyhow in closing I only hope that you can let be what is and move on. He oviously has. But for somereason you are all on here trying to do whatever it is you all are doing and that truly is sad to say the least. Derek is a great man. He has issues as Im sure we all do. I dont belive in anyway that he is a monster or someone who would harm a child that in itself to have someone say that makes me sick. I know in my heart hes not like that. As I said I came across this by accident. I wish I hadnt found it to be honest this circus that you all continue to be apart of.
May 14th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Gee, “youdontsay” and “longtime” must know each other. They’re sharing the same CenturyLink static IP while posting comments here today. That usually means they’re posting from the same location – maybe even the same computer.
May 14th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
Hondo living in a single-wide (with wheels On) and meth does crazy shit to the mind!
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=853&bih=568&q=faces+of+methamphetamine+use+before+and+after&oq=faces+of+meth&gs_l=img.1.0.0l8.2124.4639.0.7622.13.10.0.3.3.0.156.1123.1j9.10.0…0.0…1ac.1.12.img.mqGIXQtqAfc
May 14th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
@ #300: And I should care about ANY of that why? This is a milblog, not a support group for victims of sexual abuse, although most of us do have some sympathy for them generally.
May 14th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
@303.
“General Hospital”
“Days of Our Lives”
“As the World Tuns”
“This Ain’t Hell”
May 15th, 2013 at 10:55 am
If two different people can be the same person I don’t see how that is even possible. But like I said this is your story and this is your romper room classroom that you all are all apart of.its amazing how much time you all have to spend here and bash other people the world doesn’t stop so why are you…. Move on I don’t know this guy but rest assured I’m sure that his ex make things real interesting on here with getting there friends to come on here and post bs its all very childish.
May 15th, 2013 at 11:05 am
@299 I’m not his gf never meet the guy but like I have said this is all you do is assume and smoke and mirrors. Keep the story and bs going. Like kids.
May 15th, 2013 at 11:13 am
@306
Here is what isn’t BS…
1. He forged a federal document (DD-214) to obtain benefit – which is a violation of federal law
2. He molested a child under the age of 16 or a mentally handicaped person – which granted in WV isn’t typically abnormal – but a crime nonetheless
May 15th, 2013 at 11:37 am
@305…I’m assuming you don’t know what IP (Internet Protocol) addressing means, and just how specific it can get. But you keep telling yourself we’re too stupid to figure it out, hon.
And FWIW, ex-girlfriends don’t send people to prison. Courts, juries, and judges do. All they did is make the charge, and the system does the rest. If there had been no evidence of such, he wouldn’t have gone to jail, now would he toots?
May 15th, 2013 at 11:37 am
Here’s the bs how do you know he forged them and not the person who sent all this stuff in you all really live in a make believe world. These exes of his seem so vindictive and childish.I don’t do meth I don’t live in a trailer. You all assume because someone hands over documents that they say were altered by this guy it must be true.I dint believe it fir one second I believe his ex or exs are in a plot to put him in jail for whatever reason Thats what I believe. Also the crime in WV is a missomenor and carries 90 days in jail and a fine nothing about having to register. So I read up on the law in VA and it says for the same charge you have to have three or more conditions of the same to be on the registry so something is screwy there.
Did you all know he’s on cregslist as a handyman. And his number is 720-579-5125… You should call if you need any work done. Fir people who research you all really don’t know facts. And with all the crazy stuff his exs are doing id start there but Thats just me.but who am I im smoke meth and libe in a trailer.
May 15th, 2013 at 11:40 am
How many innocent people do think are in jail none…. You live in a bubble if you think that.
May 15th, 2013 at 11:42 am
309, go back to school. For the love of God, please go back to school. It is painful just trying to decipher that butchery of the English language you posted.
May 15th, 2013 at 11:46 am
Uh, let’s reach a bit here, shall we, hon? I am not so naive to think that innocent people haven’t been sent to jail, but I’m pretty fucking sure that there are a lot more guilty people walking the streets than innocents in jail.
I’m gonna take a wild fucking guess and say your boy deserved what he got. Strange how I never took an Exacto knife to my 214, but YMMV.
May 15th, 2013 at 11:52 am
Never said you did I said I’m wondering if his ex did it to get him brought up on charges to put hum in jail just to be vindictive. I mean with reading all that has been going on Its a very real possibility thats what’s going on. I mean is he in jail at all now or what do we even know?
May 15th, 2013 at 11:54 am
And again, toots–I refer you to Hondo’s comment @254. Look at his 214 again. Separation code JJD2–that means SCM, BCD (Special Courts Martial/Bad Conduct Discharge), which explains his inability to complete his first enlistment and discharge as an E-1.
May 15th, 2013 at 11:59 am
@313
So…one of his ex-gfs showed up at Wounded Warriors dressed just like him, presented an altered DD-214, claimed to have been blown up in a HMMWV and TBI?
“Also the crime in WV is a missomenor and carries 90 days in jail and a fine nothing about having to register.”
Oh..ok..that makes f*cking a child or retarded person so much less of a crime then. Like I said…in WV it isn’t out of the ordinary…but in the rest of the country it is a crime.
Did one of the ex-GFs also dress up like him and molest a kid?
May 15th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
Geez, youdontsay – what part of, “He was convicted in a court of law of boinking an underage girl; he is therefore a sex offender and by definition also a child molester” do you NOT understand?
You can believe whatever you want. That doesn’t alter the fact that legally speaking Rose is a child molester and a sex offender. Deal with it.
As to how we know it was Rose who did it – well, that’s the most logical explanation. Read the article above. Who else would profit by altering Rose’s DD214 so Rose could use it to defraud WWP by claiming TBI and other injuries in a military vehicle accident that never happened? At best that means Rose had an accomplice, not that Rose is innocent.
May 15th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
@Hondo
I’m starting to see how serial killers in prison have groupies and even people willing to marry them
May 15th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
Well his ex or exs wold profits with being vindictive and putting him in jail. Where they want him. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out. Thats all they talk about.so in that since it would benefit them.
May 15th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
So what, pray tell, is the real source of heartburn here?
May 15th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
@318
So you are going to maintain that an ex-GF…dressed in disguise…showed up to WWP with an altered DD-214, told a tale, attempted to receive services….and molested a child/retarded person?
You are going to stick with that story?
May 15th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
O-4E: (sigh). Yeah. Every day I become more and more convinced that The Refreshments were right in Banditos.
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
So meet me at the mission at midnight
We’ll divvy up there
Everybody knows
That the world is full of stupid people
Well I got the pistol so I’ll keep the Pesos
Yeah that seems fair
May 15th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
I’m thinking we’ve found the mentally challenged person.
May 15th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
Uh, hon? Do you understand what “preponderence of evidence” means? That means my ex could go to the DA, police, etc., and claim that I’ve been boinking little girls, kicking puppies, and am personally responsible for the heartbreak of psoriasis.
However, if there’s no evidence of such, even if you have an incredibly overzealous DA, it’s unlikely to impossible that I’ll ever be charged with, much less convicted of any crime at all? Why? Because there’s no PROOF of it. Meaning, if the ex claimed that I boinked her daughter, and she convinces the daughter to lie on the stand under oath, now we have TWO MORE felons–the mother for suborning perjury, and the daughter for committing it.
You REALLY think mommy’s gonna want to subject not only herself but her daughter to that to “get back” at an ex? C’mon, get those synapses firing now, think about it…
May 15th, 2013 at 12:23 pm
Hondo–she reminds me more of the doctor in Idiocracy: “It says on your chart that you’re fucked up. Ah, you talk like a fag, and your shit’s all retarded.”
May 15th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
NHSparky: one interpretation of Banditos is that it’s the story of a not-so-bright con man convincing an even less intelligent tool to help them pull a job – then stiffing their partner afterwards. Seemed to me that that was kinda apropos here.
May 15th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
Oh yeah, I liked that song. But still, we’re rapidly approaching a Idiocracy-style world, about 500 years ahead of schedule.
Remember how stupid the average person is, now consider that by definition, half are stupider than that.
May 15th, 2013 at 12:40 pm
Youdontsay:
Until you can answer who showed up in the Derek suit with a forged DD214, STFU.
May 15th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
Still pondering that profits from vindictiveness motive. Whaaaat? Who pays for that? Seems like more of us should be seeing ads for such.
Or something.
May 15th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
OWB:
I think the person who wrote that is strong with the tard side of the Force.
May 15th, 2013 at 10:32 pm
Crickets since 12:09 pm