Micah Turner; deserter (Updated)
Phil sends us a link from YouTube which was posted on October 6th of Micah Turner. AKO says he was a sergeant at Fort Bragg and he’s surrounding himself with smelly hippies celebrating the fact that since he went AWOL 30 days before this video, he’s now a deserter. It looks like he’s making his little press conference at the Occupy DC camp a few blocks from the White House.
I think he’s trying to make a point, but since the war in Afghanistan is over, for all intents and purposes, I don’t know what that point could be.
Yes, I know people are still fighting and dying in Afghanistan, but this administration is doing it’s best to not win the war. I also wonder why we’re still over there, but since this administration has as it’s only strategy to withdraw, former sergeant Turner is pretty much joining in the rush for the exits.
He kind of reminds me of Ward Reilly who claims he went AWOL in Germany to protest the Vietnam War at a time when there were no more combat troops in Vietnam. Yeah, I’m sure the hippies love Turner, but I think he needs a throat punch. Using your uniform to make a political statement is never cool. Luckily, he won’t be a sergeant long after he turns himself in at his unit, like he promises. And I’m sure there’s someone at his unit that will give him the throat punch he deserves.
Thanks to Phil for the video.
Update:Seems that he tried to turn himself into a local police station that did not seem interested in it. ALso it seems that he is all about the drama by taking photos of himself in front of a Army Recruiting station and at Fort Hamilton. Here is another video that was made yesterday by him.
October 7th, 2012 at 8:44 am
He’s established his future career as a Democrat Senator and Presidential nominee in 20 years.
October 7th, 2012 at 8:52 am
flog the tratior or just shoot him. Am sick and tired with all these limp dicks breaking their oaths. Big A needs to set an example.
October 7th, 2012 at 8:57 am
He is a very funny fellow. I particularly enjoyed that part of his dissertation in which he spoke of duty. Does he think that those HE ABANDONED would not like to be standing on a corner anywhere in the US right now, free from the threat of harm; that they would not like to be able to see their families, go wherever they like and do whatever they wish? This holier-than-thou POS knows nothing of duty. I would very much like to spit in his eye.
October 7th, 2012 at 9:02 am
He is guilty of the biggest of unforgiveable sins. He let the men on his left and right and his unit down.
He is a scumbag, nothing more nothing less.
October 7th, 2012 at 9:09 am
CAB.
Weak sauce. Non-IN turd.
Roger that.
October 7th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Love the ribbion rack as well.
October 7th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Just curious but what does AKO have as his MOS?
October 7th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Nice jump wings…maybe they’d look better down his throat.
October 7th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Was actually thinking that the most honorable thing he has done is to remove the ribbons, leaving an empty rack. Kinda cool, for a numbnuts wannabe.
October 7th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Regimental Crest says Signal. Tough gig.
October 7th, 2012 at 10:08 am
By the way, he says he was in Psyops, but AKO says his basic branch was “25″ – Signal. So he might have been a signal guy in a psyops unit (someone recognize the flash behind his wings?) but he didn’t really work in psyops.
October 7th, 2012 at 10:13 am
@9. The word honor in any sense cannot properly be associated with this self-confessed deserter, OWB. He either pulled a Kerry–disavowing his ribbons–or he didn’t have enough w/o illegally supplementing them to make an impression. I believe he pulled a Kerry.
October 7th, 2012 at 10:23 am
…celebrating the fact that since he went AWOL 30 days before this video, he’s now a deserter.
As far as the UCMJ goes, that’s not the case. Administratively speaking, this is the time to drop him from the rolls, but that’s not what makes him guilty of desertion. If he always intended to return to military control (i.e., turn himself in the way he says), then the crime is AWOL, not desertion. (Unless he willfully missed “hazardous duty or important service” – like a deployment, a train-up for a deployment, or something like that – in which case he’s a deserter no matter how soon he intends to come back.)
October 7th, 2012 at 10:23 am
He is rocking the CAB (CIB for chicks) so he has to have deployed and been within 5,000+ yards of the enemy.
Fucking deserter turd.
October 7th, 2012 at 10:23 am
The fact that you all can be so vicious to one of your own proves he is justified in his dissent.
October 7th, 2012 at 10:25 am
“Sargent”?
October 7th, 2012 at 10:26 am
@15.
Up your ass.
October 7th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Nunya your comment is petty demonstrative of why people like him exist. He stopped being “one of our own” when he deserted. Don’t know of any military unit that smiles on it’s deserters.
October 7th, 2012 at 10:41 am
How could one single line be fraught with so many issues? First, the tag, Nunya. That message is, I suppose, that this is none of our business. Then there’s the lone line which begins with “The fact” that we can all be so vicious. All people can be vicious. That is a fact. Whether what a few of us have said thus far is vicious is not a fact. It is an opinion. Then there’s “to one of your own.” That’s a real gem. If, by that, Nunya means that he is active duty, most of us here are not. Most of us are Veterans. If, by that, Nunya means to lump all current and former military together, then Turner has deliberately and purposefully removed himself from that group by his turning his back on his comrades and his duty to them and his country. Next up is the contention that our comments provide proof to justify his dissent. There are several problems with that. First, his statements do not qualify as proof of anything, other than his intent to separate himself permanently from the Army through desertion. Second, there is a logic problem. The comments came after the little speech he broadcast and the decision he made to desert. Lastly, his dissent is fine when he is a civilian or if he keeps it to himself while he does his duty. It is not fine while he is in service.
Other than those things, Nunya, your one line was fabulous.
October 7th, 2012 at 10:49 am
@14…
I disagree about the CAB. FOs, Sappers, Cav Scouts, and a few other MOS’s get them and see just as much combat as anyone else.
October 7th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Nunya..how original.
Once he decided to be a “deserter”, he ceased being “one of our own”.
Obviously you don’t get it, but I’m sure you don’t get many things. Carry on.
October 7th, 2012 at 10:53 am
@20
After the IN has cleared the area. Big difference between clearing and random engagements.
October 7th, 2012 at 11:00 am
I love the French OCCUPY Mustached Smiley Face Guy who always somehow makes it into these photo ops. He is standing right rear of the coward. The French guy is probably wearing a mask because his has two black eyes and a chipped front tooth because he was caught urinating in someone’s backyard garden.
October 7th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Infantry “clears the area” for Cav Scouts and Sappers? Go tell them that. In any event, the enemy has adjusted its TTPs because we are vulnerable when we have to occupy an area, so why should they give their best punch to those who are clearing it. Warfare has changed since WWII (or Vietnam) and the establishment of the CAB reflects that reality.
October 7th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Nunya seems to have posted from Weymouth, MA – home of Mark Shields (of PBS Newshour fame). Figures.
October 7th, 2012 at 11:10 am
By the way, “Nunya” . . . his desertion is a military matter and IMO is nunya bidness.
October 7th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Hondo … does the local police and closest Provost Marshal have a bead on him? These are easy arrests to make. If he gets up on stump during a rally, sanctioned or permitted are not, and says, “I deserted because, I amm AWOL because” etc … the rule is of thumb is: Once the rally is complete, approach and ask to see his military ID Card, the approach and questioning is based on his admission of a possible crime (both resonable suspicious and probable cause are satified), any sworn law enforcement enforcement officer can arrest a derseting coward. Once arrested turn over to closest Army Provost Marshal. The cool thing about handling this way: His right to Free Speech (bla bla bla bla bla) was never violated!
October 7th, 2012 at 11:41 am
I am not retard … please don’t comment on meye spelling … I brpke mu glasses.
October 7th, 2012 at 11:49 am
I learned a long time ago, never try to make any sense out of what retards do…because…if you can make sense of what they’re doing….you might get retarded. Yes you can catch retarded….it’s a proven fact.
October 7th, 2012 at 11:52 am
@ CI …. Quite Pithy … Well Done … Thanks!
October 7th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
@15
If by “be so vicious to one of your own” you mean properly call out a less-than-worthless piece of shit, you’re absolutely right. If by “proves he is justified in his dissent” you mean “dropped off naked and trussed like a pig in the jungles of New Guinea where the cannibals roam with an apple in his mouth and a ‘Eat Me’ sign around his neck”, you’re absolutely right.
I’m guessing you didn’t mean it like that at all. I’m guessing you mean since he took the same, now broken, oath we did we should be supporting him.
I’m afraid you are abjectly mistaken. He ceased being one of us the moment he decided to abandon his oath, fellow soldiers, and his honor.
October 7th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Punks like him make absolutely no sense to me. The military draft has been gone for decades. If you can’t cut it don’t join in the first place. When I volunteered in 1966 I served with many good men that were drafted. Each and every one of those men that I served with did what was required by their country. They may not have like serving but by god they manned-up and served with pride. These reprobate punks that join and then want to pull the anti war shit make me want to puke!
October 7th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
I forgot to say to all you from the all volunteer times, a big hand salute for you voluntary service!
October 7th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
@23 — The “French mustached guy mask” is actually a Guy Fawkes mask, which British kids wear on Guy Fawkes day, November 5. He’s the 17th century British soldier who fought for the Spanish Army and participated in the Gunpowder Plot to blow up Westminster on the opening day of Parliament under Robert Catesby. The plot failed because the barrels of gunpowder were discovered, and Fawkes was tried and executed across from the Parliament Building. The kids in Britain wear masks, beg for “a penny for the guy” and enjoy fireworks at night. I guess he represents the ultimate protester.
And by an odd coincidence of the calendar, the first Tuesday in November this year is November 6, the day after Guy Fawkes Day in Britain. Any guesses on how many masks we’ll see at polling places?
October 7th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
“It’s our duty to dissent.” No… this is the duty you sought out and got paid to do after you raised your right and and signed on the dotted line. You also got paid money to honor this oath.
I Micah Turner, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
Fuck him.
October 7th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
@ Ex-PH2 …. Thanks (i knew that) … I was just SPEWING … plus he looks French …. and I thing some of you know how I regard the French … I love the people … But the word French …. any way …. ah …. blowing leaves now!
October 7th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
I agree with Cacti35. There is no draft any more. No one is requiring service in the military. It’s entirely voluntary. So what is the point of joining up, going through whatever training you’re given, and then going UA and/or deserting to become a protester? It does nothing but make the person who does that look like the moron he or she is.
October 7th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Master chief, I love the food, the wine, the cheese and the people de la France. And now they are taking an aggressive stance toward jihadists by arresting 11 suspected jihadists and killing one who threw a grenade (prints on it) into a market in Sarcelles.
Combats avec tes defenseurs!
Sous nos drapeaux, que la victoire
Accoure à tes males accents!
Que tes ennemis expirants
Voient ton triomphe et notre gloire!
October 7th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
@24.
I have told them that. Usually sappers are augmented to the IN for breaches, demo works, etc.
No issue with them as they are in the mix. You missed the point.
October 7th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
@ 38 … is that Italian or something?
October 7th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Mais non, mon ami. Ce n’est pas l’italien. C’est la langue français!
October 7th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
I missed the point?
You said, “Big difference between clearing and random engagements” in response to JP pointing out that Forward Observers, Sappers and Cav Scouts all get the CAB. Well sorry, but all those people have seen plenty of combat in the current conflict (as have, for that matter, Truck Drivers and MPs and others). This joker’s CAB may be “weak sauce” (as you said), but the fact is that the kind of combat that we had in the past, with a “forward line of troops” to distinguish between the front and the rear, doesn’t exist any more. I don’t have a CAB (I do have a CMB), but I’ve put in the paperwork for my soldiers to get one and they were all well deserved, even if they weren’t serving with the “teeth arms”.
October 7th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
This is the best translation I can give you:
Struggle with your defenders.
Under our flags, let victory
Hasten to your manly cries!
May your dying enemies
See your triumph and our glory!
What d’you want? It’s French. It doesn’t translate. Il es si rempli de poisson.
October 7th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
A coward does not volunteer to risk his life for his country in wartime. A coward does not serve in four combat tours– three in Afghanistan and one in Iraq. A coward does not then offer himself up to arrest, solitary confinement and imprisonment for god knows how long. Micah Turner is brave. He is a man who takes courageous risks. He risked his physical life for his country and now he is risking his character for life to bring an end to a war that is over. Bin laden is dead. Bring our troops home now, safely, and with dignity. Let no man label him a coward.
Sporkmaster: It should be noted that this seems very similar to a story we have heard before.
October 7th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Ahhh, phase two begins…
October 7th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
@42.
I do not have an issue with the CMB.
Medics walk with us.
However, the critera for a CAB is very loose and very subjective, unlike the other two.
October 7th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
@44.
If that is true, good for him.
However, it all went down the drain the day he deserted.
Deserters are scumbags. Plain and simple.
October 7th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
No Eileen. There is nothing brave, honorable, or admirable in a man who forsakes his oath, desert their duty, and abandons those in his charge.
This man is a Sergeant (at least until he is sentenced for AWOL/Desertion). That makes him in charge of people, people who would and should have looked to him for guidance and leadership. If he’s truly done four tours of combat, he owed it to those he served with to be there to instruct, aid and assist those in his charge, in his unit.
Now, who knows who’s going to get killed because this individual took it upon himself to continue the services he SWORE to complete? He’s not going to be there for those who needed him. Is he going to go to the families of those in his unit who are kiled and apologize for his selfishness?
Because that’s really what we’re talking about here. Selfish.
Even if we take his purported claims at face value, we’re left with nothing but selfishness. We’re left with someone who has chosen to put his personal agenda ahead that of the service he swore to render.
He may have honorably served, but when he broke his oath, when he abandoned his unit, he lost all that and is now worthy only of scorn.
October 7th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Micah Turner “sacrificed” himself for a cause in the safety of America under the protective cover of lawyers and advocates, while at the same time, he designated his position and those in his charge to fight a war without him, consequently forcing others to fill the void he created by abandoning his unit. That’s the epitome of a coward.
Micah will let the lawyers work to achieve his discharge (chapter 10, here we come…), which may cause him a bit of inconvenience as Ms. Maxwell suggests… The guy who must take his place in Afghanistan, or those who need to adapt without their NCO, face much bigger consequences. Regardless of what people think about AF at this point, Micah Turner will forever be dismissed as a coward… an opportunist…. a useful idiot… and perhaps worst of all, an extremely selfish individual with no integrity.
October 7th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
There isnt a single thing about what this turd did thats brave. He abandoned his duties for his own safety and well being. As an NCO he had junior troops who should have been looking up to him for guidance and training. Instead their mentor (as thats what a good NCO is) deserted in order to promote his own agenda. Turds like this one are whats wrong with not only our military but out society in general.
October 7th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
@44 He was brave, until he deserted.
Now he is a coward, a shirker, and a sack of feces.
” A coward does not then offer himself up to arrest, solitary confinement and imprisonment for god knows how long. ”
– LOL! PLEASE…Dramatic much? Most likely he’ll get BCD’d and booted out, so he can rejoin his stinky hippie scumbag comrades in time for the next freak circus show.
October 7th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
#49, I hope they take the trouble to get him a little time, but if he’s got a good service background I dare say you are right.
‘course he might be fantasizing that he can use a court-martial as an antiwar spectacle and noble public martyrdom…but I don’t doubt his defense counsel will quickly disabuse him of any such notion. And maybe play him a few selections of the Official TDS Soundtrack —
“Don’t Talk” by 10,000 Maniacs
“You Say It Best When You Say Nothing At All” by Paul Overstreet and John Schliz
“The Sound of Silence” by Simon & Garfunkel
4’33″ by John Cage
etc. etc.
October 7th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Also, here’s another thing about his “brave” decision to turn himself in… In AWOL/deserter cases, turning oneself in is considered by rule to be a mitigating factor that often minimizes the penalty in a court martial. It also is a big factor when determining whether to charge the person or merely discharge him with an OTH. So he’s not being brave… he’s being tactical and operating under the cover of lawyers and friends for his own motives.
October 7th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
…although in the event of court-martial (assuming I’m right and they can’t prove more than AWOL, precisely for the reason you state – turning himself in is evidence he didn’t intend to leave permanently), going over 30 days increased his maximum sentence exposure from 6 months/no BCD to 1 year/DD or BCD. (On the other hand, waiting that long actually made him eligible for a chapter 10.)
October 7th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Thanks Ex-PH2 … my wife just called me an idiote in French. I have no idea what she said or what it means! She speaks fluent French at me and I just listen!
October 7th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Then, MCPO, she loves you in more ways than one.
Guys, I think you’re being far too hard on this misguided soul. He just didn’t like getting shot at, so he went home. But if he’s sincerely want to protest, then I think we should send his hairy,lazy butt to Pakiland with the Code Pink perps, with a couple of paintball guns for protection.
And if those silly broads are going into bad country, then they should understand that they are completely on their own.
October 7th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
@ MCPO. Since the mid to late 70′s the US Army ceased chasing AWOL’s. It was a money saving move for them in which if the AWOL gets popped by civilian LEO, say on a traffic beef, hopefully said AWOL would most likely be listed with NCIC (or whatever database it is these days)and then, Big Army might send the MP’s, MPI or if warranted CID to escort said shit bag to the nearest home for wayward troops…At least that is how I understood it to be.
October 7th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
I would be re-miss in not saying that JAGC is most likely right on target. Now that I think about, if I were in charge of returning shitbags like him back to face charges, I might want to wait his ass out. Just saying.
October 7th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
25M is a Multimedia Illustrator – there’s no signal guys in a PSYOP unit, but there are always 25M’s, who sit at a desk drawing stuff. I don’t know this douche, and I have a lot of respect for quality illustrators who serve their country, but this guy ain’t a PSYOPer embedded with MPs or IN out on patrols or passing out leaflets – he was a desk jockey.
October 7th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I’m going to apply Eileen’s standard of bravery to another American. He volunteered for service and became an Army officer. He led troops in some terribly fierce battles and was himself wounded multiple times. His tenacity and leadership won him both the respect of his subordinates and his superiors. Along the way, he became disillusioned. At great personal risk—a brave act by Helen’s understanding of the term—he abandoned those to whom he, too, had sworn fidelity and allegiance and exchanged his fame for notoriety. He is long dead but we remember him to this day. His name was Benedict Arnold.
October 7th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Every PsyOp Battalion has 25M’s for product development. Signal guys are in what was 3rd BN…they run the mobile radio stations. FYI….their was a radio station embedded with 3ID in the invasion, and the soldiers in that unit did some fighting alongside other Brigade HQ personell. also, 37F is combat support , and 3 man psyop teams are DS to maneuver Battalions. My 3 man PsyOp team earned 7 PH’s, ArCom with V, and 2 Bronze stars during 06-07 in Yusifiyah/Mahmudiah AO. The 8th BN CSM graduated Ranger School a coupke weeks ago, hopefully that motivates more TL’s to go to RS.
October 7th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
And this fuck stick is a piece of shit.
October 7th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
And his deployments were 180 days, not 12 months. Most support. and HQ types in PsyOp do short, but frequent deployments. in 2003, I did 6 months in Iraq, back to Bragg, PLDC, 2 months at CentCom Main, Then back to Iraq for another 6 months…..barely 6 months turnaround. if it the Optempo hasnt changed since i left AD PsyOp, he probably got burned out on deploying aka “doing his job” and quit. pussy
October 7th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
https://twitter.com/Unoccupier
October 7th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
No Sgt Stripes…
https://twitter.com/i/#!/Unoccupier/media/slideshow?url=pic.twitter.com%2F2erJOoKs
October 7th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Looking at his twitter page, it appears this sack has almost 1000 followers.
October 7th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
@27
MCPO SPEW CONTINUED and
@57
streetsweeper
- let the desertion go into effect. I want the bounty of calling the LEO’s on him. Watched a guy call HAAF MP’s and Metro PD with all his info to come collect him. Cops cant say no because they dont make enought to violate a warrant.
Its kinda hard for a D-Bag to do anything with a federal arrest warrant with NO BAIL attached.
October 7th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Jonn, Hondo, or anyone else who is a tweetist, facebooker, or one of those other things you do with your thumbs … give me a bead on where and when in this guy is in NYC …
The NYC Veteran’s Day Parade is coming up …
Certainly we can arrange a special get togther was some of my little friends …
October 7th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
sounds like a party. I have a guy in my shop from long island, also good with his thumbs and tweets. I’ll keep my ear on the ground.
October 7th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
The TAH front office has my info.
If we get a bead on him. Shit I’ll arrest him. Desertion warrants are easy. Anyone can make the arrest … even a private citizen. But there are soooo many agencies in NYC who would love to do the Habeas Grabus on a guy like this!
October 7th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
According to his Twitter action today, I think he’s hoping he’ll get grabbed by the cops while he’s with his hippie friends. Reminds me of when Matthis was hiding out at the DC IVAW House and they all shit themselves every time a patrol car came within a block of them. Drama Queens all.
October 7th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
I looked at a few of those pix. I thought sippy was self-absorbed and egocentric, but this jackddumbass takes the cake.
He’s about as much on the run as a bowl of mashed potatoes.
Tackle him for me, will you, fellas? He doesn’t belong anywhere NEAR the Vietnam Vets memorial. He needs his behind blistered.
October 7th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
I mentioned NYC because his tweetbook or facepage had photos of him with the Bull at Bowling Green which is south of Wall Street. All of these anti war Vets groups march in NYC Vets Day Parade. We usually turn our backs to them when we see them.
October 7th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Loving the Guy Fawkes mask on the guy on the right
October 7th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
this was his last twert:
Micah Turner?@Unoccupier
Just spoke at @VFPNational rally, told of being in Afghanistan when Osama was killed. I’m deserting and turning myself in tonight.
4:13 PM – 7 Oct 12 · Embed this Tweet
October 7th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
@ 74 … some jerk earlier thought he was just a French guy!
October 7th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
@ Green Thumb…you seriously need to get over yourself brother. Did you just graduate the IN Basic Course or something? The whole “if you aint IN you aint” attitude is pretty lame and childish, e.g. knocking CABs, MOSs etc. We’ve all got our jobs to do in the military, regardless of rank, branch, service, or MOS. You can debate all day long how your job is tougher, more dangerous, more deserving, blah blah. As long as people are doing their job, accomplishing their mission, deploying when ordered to, and looking out for their brothers and sisters to their right and left, they’re okay in my book. Unlike the POS who is the subject of this thread, who’s outlook on life is obviously “its all about me”.
October 7th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
@ 57 … I have collared and processed … after 30 days they are listed and there is a warrant. Deserters are big catches for warrants squads and the Army Provost Marshal loves it when you actually drive them to the base.
October 7th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Master Chief, I don’t care where or how you catch that bozo, just kick his butt for the 58,000 plus and those still MIA. Please.
Thanks.
October 7th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
MUSTER THE ASS KICKING PARTY ON THE FANTAIL .. Aye Aye Maam’
October 7th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
These threads you post are awesome..I am becoming addicted to THA… I love you guys and gals and your opinions…And i love your mission… I say find him and send him to the Codepinkers….
All jokes asides I am becoming educated on something I really did not know much about until I found your blog..
I served 2 years 7 months as a Marine I have no medals and married while I was in the Corps but I was lucky enough to go to Boot Camp and work with some of the Senior enlisted leaders today to whom one is my brother who just retired after 27 years. In addition I spent 5 years as a dependent and I just get crazy mad when I read about these people..
October 7th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
My thanks, MCPO.
October 8th, 2012 at 12:06 am
48–thank you for your respectful response to my 44. Please know that Micah was off the rolls for redeployment to Afghanistan. 27, 67. 69, 70, & 72–you can call off your vigilantes. Micah just turned himself in as he said he would. 2, 68, 79 & 80–your incitements of violence and threats to Micah have been screen-saved and will be sent to the Army.
October 8th, 2012 at 2:17 am
@83 bwahahahahahahahah sent to the Army?!? Stop please my tummy hurts. Pray tell to what email address do you plan on sending the screen shots of the mean ole posts? hurtfeelings@us.army.gov
You’re too much. You should have your own stand up hour. We can call it “narcissism, it’s not just for again hippies any more”
October 8th, 2012 at 2:20 am
Now I have to ask what do you have that supports him being deployed that many times?
October 8th, 2012 at 4:08 am
@77 Agreed. Guy sounds like a royal douchenozzle. Only a young punk would write shit like that. The IN don’t go far without a whole lot of CS/CSS to make it happen. There is a reason why the silent professionals are just that.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:36 am
Turner tries to turn himself in, is told to “come back tomorrow”:
http://twitter.yfrog.com/5e936ahjmcncuhhlxwowvllpz
October 8th, 2012 at 6:45 am
That there video from Micah is down right funny, don’t care who ya are. DACP didn’t want to take him into custody, “Come back tomorrow” that cop should have added “when the resident MPI is in the office…”, lmao! Things sure have changed in the US Army, damn. Must be all union jobs now…
October 8th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Where were you planning to send this info to the “Army”? Which Army? The Iranian Army, maybe? You’re scaring me (NOT).
Be specific.
Streetsweeper, I watched that video, found the movie ad more interesting. I wait with bated breath to see what happens next.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Oh, MY! This is even better than usual – a hippy who admits believing in incitement! At least admitting a willingness to use it as a tool.
Psssst. Here’s your clue for the day – the official leftist rules include denying to one and all that there is such a thing.
And that threat with the Army? What fun! No one has EVER made such a threat around here!! Usually it’s the libleslanderlawer thing, but all part of the program.
Feel better now? Ya know, because that’s what it’s all about. You. Oh, wait, this is supposed to be all about Micah. Uh-oh.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:14 am
@87
Not too surprised. He’s not considered a violent offender, he showed up to turn himself in, and the tank was probably full of fish they’d rather keep.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:15 am
@83
Eileen, feel free to cry to whoever you want. Hell, call your Congressman and tell them how mean we are. Just make sure to spell “TAH” right.
As far as Micah here, looks like he’s not as important as he thought he was. All that “I think they’re following me, yada yada, tin foil hat on tight” BS is just the usual overdramatic hippy nonsense. Go figure.
But then again…for people like Micah, Matthis, etc…it’s all about ego and an appetite attention anyway.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:24 am
If he REALLY wants to turn himself in, all he has to do is walk in by himself, like a grown-up, but he can’t even do that. He has to have someone go with him, like any 3-year-old. He’s just a spoiled, rotten adult brat who doesn’t have the decency or intestinal fortitude to fulfill the contract that he signed when he volunteered. And poor little Micah signed on the dotted line, you moron.
Yeah, that’s right, Eileen, you incredible imbecile. He volunteered, because there is no draft any more, no conscription into the armed services. It’s all volunteer, and when you volunteer, you are expected to serve out the terms of the enlistment contract that you sign.
And he didn’t.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:51 am
And the comedy continues: Turner’s second attempt to turn himself in (and his inflated sense of paranoia)runs headlong into the concept of a Federal Holiday.
Micah Turner ?@Unoccupier – Micah still walking free!! Unbelievable but they won’t let himself turn himself in as mil detectives are taking day off.
October 8th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Are there no military bases near him? I’d think they’d be happy to keep him on ice until the Army sends someone by to pick him up.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:22 am
No need to screenshot any of this to send to the Pentagon. A large portion of our traffic comes from the army.mil/usmc.mil/af.mil/navy.mil ISPs.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:25 am
I find this all supremely hilarious. Second attempt to turn yourself in? Haha wake up smart guy. How does it feel to realize in reality you are not as importiant as you are in your own head?
I’ve dealt with AWOL soldiers before and they’ve all had the balls to turn themselves into the unit they abandoned. We gave them crap duty till they were processed out, hell I even remember one who was a permanent CQ runner, 24 on 48 off or something. I’m sure this guy would send a complaint “to the army” calling all that cruel and unusually punishment. But little Micha has already established proved he is a self righteous coward. In the 30 plus days he’s been AWOL did he smoke too much pot he forgot how to get back to where he was stationed? That is the only conclusion i can come to considering he sees guys in camo hats behind every tree ready to spring a trap on him and take him “peacefully but not quietly”.
What a joke.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:32 am
they’ve all had the balls to turn themselves into the unit they abandoned
Apparently not this goober fuckstick. So much for that courage thingy there, Eileen. Maybe he’s afraid of something having to face the guys he Blue Falconed? Nah, couldn’t be that, could it?
October 8th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Oh and I forgot. He says he served 5 years. I have never heard of a 5 year enlistment. To me that means he did his first hitch an re-upped. So not only did this holier than thou “dissenter” leave his comrades, and even worse his subortinates, short handed he broke an oath he took TWICE!!! There is a special scorn for this garbage. Bet he did not have a problem with the war when he was spending his enlistment bonus.
Worthless putz.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:41 am
@99
In ’88, I had a 5 year USMC enlistment. Dunno if the Army ever had them, or if they presently do.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:45 am
@86.
Same old story. And tell 77 that I have longed moved on from the branch.
That being said, I rarely find a non-IN guy who has anything positive to say about the IN. While I agree you need CS/CSS, Combat Arms gets lost in the shuffle, as usual.
As for young punk, I bet I am older than you.
Years ago I had to take the hard road. No future, no opportunities and so forth. The branch that everyone hates is the only one that provided that. I understand we live in the days of the “Army of One” mentality, but do not fault me for holding it in disdain.
Additionaly, I did my time. That garauntees my being able to state an opinion. Like it or not.
As far is this dude goes, the deserter, he is a shitbag.
I do not wish to get into a pissing match, but to let you know where I stand.
October 8th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
We had a guy that went AWOL, since he was being investigated for drug running and was under escorted supervision within the company, he decided to hit the road. Well, a couple of months later, he called the 1st Sergeant and aksed to come back. Top told him he didn’t want him back and to just keep on running. A few months after that, he was picked up trying to get a government contractor job in Florida. Yeah, he was that smart.
As for this hosehead; I agree that he should walk up to the main gate at Bragg and turn himself in, anything short of that and he’s just grandstanding for his breathless little minions.
October 8th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
OT, it occurred to me that since you sign an enlistment contract, if you go UA before your time is up, isn’t that breach of contract? Shouldn’t there be a fine involved in that equal to the amount of time left on his contract?
October 8th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
I had a five year enlistment – 4 years, 17 weeks, and then extended to do an accompanied tour in Alaska. But that was the 1990s.
@44 – Eileen – I’m sure you’ve figured out from this threat that desertion is not one of those things the veteran community looks upon kindly, no matter what his service record looks like until that point. I’m not going to accuse you or Turner of being narcissists, but there is no small amount of moxie required to assert that this kind of dissent is necessary to the moral man or useful in the grand scheme of things. It’s a craven act of cowardice, to leave a unit in the lurch, no matter how many times one has done it before. Is he standing before railcars on their way to Auschwitz or running an operation to kill an evil autocrat? Was he going to be called upon to commit war crimes or atrocities? Even if he were in a combat MOS, the answer is JUMPING JESUS ON A POGO STICK NO.
Someone can invoke Godwin’s Law on my arse, I don’t care. I grew up hearing survivor testimony at every turn, and still, bless her heart, hear the survivor testimony of my wife’s second cousin every Passover. Tools like this guy, tools that apologize for tools like this guy, need to understand that in adhering to this sense that America is engaged in operations indicative of a nation that has lost its moral footing play right into the hands of people that really do commit atrocities. When a douchenozzle turns his back on an oath he has sworn to appease his sense of vanity, to the applause of nitwits that are very, very confused about what is moral and amoral, it does nothing to shape the discourse in this nation. Folks like you get your “heroes” to rub one off to, and we get the black eye of looking like curmudgeons because we know–KNOW–him for what he is. And on the other end is Achmed, who says, “look, those dumb Americans are losing their will to fight. Let’s regroup.”
Everyone else in this thread has said it. It’s an all-volunteer military. More importantly, we can vote. Show me any military in the history of the world where those in-service have such influence over their ultimate disposition. It is unparalleled.
If they can’t send a traitor like Walker Lindh to the chair, they won’t do us right by this vain assclown. I can only hope karma catches up with him while’s masturbating to his reflection sometime.
October 8th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
BK—sadly Achmed is getting it right, the 99% who don’t serve don’t much care about Achmed and his pals so they support a draw down and exit strategy. Which leaves this conflict ending in similar fashion to a previous conflict. The result will be the government we put in place collapsing and a return to conditions eerily similar to before we arrived.
That’s what makes Dooley’s class so invaluable before it was cancelled. He was discussing what a “total” war means against a religious entity….and I think he was on the right track.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Elieen Maxwell,
My statement is only what the regulation state. As the maxium penalty for desertion durring time of war- Is death. No threat, just your boy needs to be made an example of.
I honored my commitment when it was difficult, painful and the state of california treats me as a danger- I walked away with head held high and my honor intact. I surrived my with all charges dissimed
Your boy ran away- I hate weakness within myself, i dispise it in others. Others who walked the same line honored thier word, why not your boy?
What joke you are, pacifist. Your Elieen are liar and utter fake. You deny what some are ment for. The doctrine of pacifism is flawed. You still fight, with your self or with the aggitator. Your blind eyes refuse to see life for what is is.
Go copy and cry a bleeding river to whom ever you wish to. All i have stated is fact. traitors and Deserters are no differnt and must be delt with harshly.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Eileen Maxwell,
My AKO address is eat.feces@us.army.mil.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:12 am
Just a random thought, if he had been on four deployments then why is he only wearing a nine ribbon rack.
I would think that the person has been on that many deployments would have more.
ARCOM- At least one.
AAM- At least one.
AGCM- at least one.
NSDM
ACM
ICM
GWOT
NCO ribbion
ASR
OSR
Nato-5
That puts it at eleven.
October 9th, 2012 at 2:13 am
@101
Fair enough. Appreciate the tone of this more than previous posts.
Thank you for your service.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:02 am
SFC H, and yours as well.
It is my understanding that you are back off leave having returned to the rockpile.
Believe it or not, I actually enjoy your posts.
Good luck and stay low.
Be safe.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
[...] officials at the Pentagon and at Fort Bragg, N.C, where Turner was reportedly based in a psychological operations unit, said they were working on getting more information to U.S. News about Turner and his UA [...]
October 9th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
[...] officials at the Pentagon and at Fort Bragg, N.C, where Turner was reportedly based in a psychological operations unit, said they were working on getting more information to U.S. News about Turner and his UA [...]
October 9th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
[...] 9th, 2012 The good folks at US News and World Reports send us a link to their latest article on Micah Turner. It seems that he’s so wanted that no one wants to touch him. According to the article, [...]
October 10th, 2012 at 12:59 am
[...] officials at the Pentagon and at Fort Bragg, N.C, where Turner was reportedly based in a psychological operations unit, said they were working on getting more information to U.S. News about Turner and his UA [...]
October 10th, 2012 at 1:39 am
What about all those people who were told that they would only serve a certain amount of time and then when that time was over, they were told they were still stuck in the war again and again? Is that right? You take an oath to fight for your country, but we all hear how those people end up going back to the war zone when their tour is up. How is that right?
October 10th, 2012 at 1:46 am
Well I would like to hear how that plays into it when Stop Loss policy was ended in 2009. Also if you were so broken up about Stop Loss when it was going on what stopped you from enlisting to allow someone else to go home?
October 10th, 2012 at 2:12 am
@Green Thumb, my dick is…oh wait. The only time I talk shit about infintry (it took three times to spell that wrong stupid autocorrect on my computer) is when you are in earshot…
Hell why don’t they just force Branum to defend him in court. That is guaranteed 6 months hard labor and a Dishonorable isn’t it?
October 10th, 2012 at 4:34 am
Ok guys, is the enlistment contract still six years? Tho most common length of the AD part of it is three years, at least in the Marine Corps. I remember GySgt LeGree, my recruiter, reiterating that if a national emergency occurred, we could be extended. That was over 30 years ago!?
October 10th, 2012 at 4:49 am
Total MSO is 8 years, AD is whatever you originally enlisted for, then IRR until the 8 year point unless you extend/reenlist out to that point. After that, you pretty much walk away and that’s that, unless you’re a retiree, then there’s the whole Fleet Reserve/Retired List bit which I don’t know jack about.
October 10th, 2012 at 6:46 am
NHSparky: technically retirees and Fleet Reserve are still subject to the UCMJ. But I don’t think I’ve ever seen or heard of anybody prosecuted for violations that occurred after they retired. There may have been a few cases of folks being recalled to active duty to be tried for crimes committed pre-retirement, but even that’s pretty damned rare. Even in the IRR, my impression is that prosecutions are quite rare unless the offense is both egregious and very public.
October 10th, 2012 at 11:00 am
When it rains, it pours.
@JPJ.
I will help you out…Your dick is…..in your battle buddies mouth!
An issue I never really had to deal with in the IN.
Just saying….
October 11th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Honestly fellas, I don’t think this guy really served in the military. He’s got thick, bitch thighs and questionable ribbon/medal placement. Maybe when he’s done not getting picked up for a warrant that isn’t in the system because he probably never served, he can press his face against the Vietnam War Memorial and cry for all his brothers that died with him at the hands of an unloving American Imperialistic Government. And then he can take his one man show to Arlington, and cry on Tom Hanks grave and ask his wife to tell him he was a good man. Just sayin’.
I’m sorry, but I’m going to double down and say this guy is another leftist fraud.
October 11th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Honestly, Rhubarb Pie (122), he’s listed in AKO.