Chelle Lynne Anderson-Tesla; female pretender pilot
Meet Chelle Lynne Anderson-Tesla who is currently a major in the Civil Air Patrol in Virginia and assigned to HQ, VA Wing as Director of Aerospace Education. She got that job because she represented herself as combat-wounded Army Aviation Captain, and a UH-60 Blackhawk pilot. Of course, she’s here on TAH, so you already know that none of that is true.
She was a PFC Air Traffic Controller for less than two years;
I don’t know how she got a Good Conduct Medal with less than 3 years service, but there it is.
She claims that she earned a Purple Heart when her Blackhawk was shot down in Iraq and, of course, because of that incident she claims she suffers from TBI and PTS. but, as her records show, she’s never been to Iraq;
She also claims that she had enlisted time before she went to OCS. So, I thought I’d give her time to prove that to her unit who has confronted her with this information, in case the NPRC’s records were deficient. But I’ve just heard that she’s resigning from CAP “because of all of the politics” which means there won’t be any proof forthcoming. So mainly, this post is to prevent her from pulling the same scam in another state when it hits the search engines.
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November 5th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
She arrived in Germany in Feb and was discharged in Apr? Sounds like chapter action to me.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
PTS — part-time shithead?
TBI — to be invented?
November 5th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
I had the Army screw up my GCM as well. The date range was from before I even signed up and I could never get it corrected. So, I ended up with a third award with only 8 years in.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
I got my first GCM put in my record book six months early. They went by my PEBD/ Delayed Entry Date rather then when I started Active Duty. I rember my Platoon Sgt telling me to make sure and be squared away for formation because I was getting my GCM. I was smart enough to know it was bogus so I told the 1st Sgt and they corrected it.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
@1 Just a Grunt – kudos to the Army, then, if she was chaptered out so quickly. Depending on the unit and the seriousness of the misconduct, it can take some USMC units up to a year to get someone booted. Leaves me to wonder what she was up to while at Ft. Leonard Wood prior to her arrival in Germany? During my time with the Marines, sh1t-birds were occasionally transferred to one unit to another, only to have their history/drama follow them because someone in the previous chain-of-command wouldn’t do the paperwork. It was easier to call the monitor (Navy calls it “detailer”, I think) and get orders than start admin separation proceedings.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Back to the poser, it’s apparent she had some intelligence because she went to language school and ATC, which takes some brains. She probably could have gotten that job or another one of equal pay without padding her resume. Personaly I wouldn’t hire her ass to flip burgers now.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
At least posers are diverse.
Weak.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
She must of seriously stepped on her…well whatever females step on when they mess up…..to get chaptered in under 3 months. The only time I ever saw a chapter go that fast was after the gay kid got beat to death in the barracks at Ft Campbell. After that all a Soldier had to do was say they where gay and they would be out of the Army in 72 hours.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
She definitely looks suspicious with that few ribbons on an Air Force (-ish) uniform.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Showing up to threaten Jonn with “lawer” and sue for “libelslander” in 3…2…1…
November 5th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
@1: She arrived in Germany in Feb 2001 and was discharged in Apr 2002, so roughly 14 months in Germany.
November 5th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
So if I read that correctly, she was driving a vehicle for a year? Yeah, not exactly job-related if she was trained in ATC.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
@6: According to the record shown, the only “language training” she got was “headstart.” That’s something that every GI who gets stationed in Germany is required to complete as part of their inprocessing. When I went through (in 87) it was a two week course that included enough basic German to be able to read the road signs and find the toilet in a restaurant, and that’s about it. It also includes “cultural training” which may or may not include a “field trip” to some local attraction.
My “orientation” also included a trip to the Iron Curtain at Hof, hosted by the 2nd ACR, but of course that just shows how much of a FOG I am!
November 5th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Wow, so many thoughts on this one. One thing I haven’t seen brought up, is that she may have voluntarily gotten out of her enlistment if she became pregnant and had a child.
Also, it’s always been a running debate whether officers in the CAP should be saluted by active duty enlisted members. The legal answer is that they CAN be saluted, but enlisted members are not REQUIRED to salute them. I remember a blog discussion about this on Air Force Times a while back, where a CAP Major, demanded an Air Force NCO salute her. Could it be the same gal? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
And finally, forget the GCM she may or may not have earned. She is wearing an Army Achievement Medal and a friggin Purple Heart. She is not merely telling a tall tale that is protected free speech. She is illegally wearing a medal, which she used to defraud an organization into hiring her. This goes beyond the SCOTUS Alvarez decsion. She committed fraud. Even if it wasn’t a paid position with the CAP, she surely got something of value from her lies.
As we get close to Veteran’s Day, we’re going to see more of these over the next week or so.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
May I borrow your expression GT? Please, please?? (Since this is one in a recycled AF uniform, I take personal offense at this above and beyond the usual disgust at all posers.)
Turd.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
these fakes are like cockroaches! ya just can’t get rid of em!
November 5th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Just a note on the GCM. I’m pretty sure this is Army-only but the first award can be given “for the first award for service after 27 June 1950 upon termination of service, for periods less than three years, but more than one year.”
http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Awards/good_conduct.aspx
November 5th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
@ #14: Oh, #e!! NO! NCO’s (or anyone else, for that matter) are NOT required, coerced, or anything else to salute anyone who is not a military member. Have been around various CAP outfits for many decades and none of them have ever been anything other than respectful, some almost to a point of being obnoxious, toward Air Force members. If one of the children running about wearing an outfit similar to what is in the pic above demanded ANYTHING from an NCO, that idiot would be swiftly escorted off base at each of my assignments.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Guys, the salute thing is not the issue here. Focus.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
As a former CAP cadet, I sure hope she was quickly taken off the streets and forbidden to have contact with cadets. They are impressionable and will eat up her lies as reality. I remember looking up to any and all veterans, especially those with combat service. This woman didn’t even complete her enlistment yet claims combat service, combat wounds, and pilot status. I hope she gets hers.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
If they’re the “civil” air patrol, why do they wear uniforms and have military ranks? That would seem to set up a situation that is ripe for mistakes or outright fraud.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Just FYI I have a MSgt in my unit (retired) that was heavily involved with Virginia CAP both while we were at Andrew AFB and also after he retired. I sent this link to him and asked him if he knows anything about this douchebucket.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Wow… the list is growing so quickly…
November 5th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Thousands of veterans and non-veterans serve in CAP without so much as whisper of a problem. And have for over 70 years. Its a great organization.
This is not about CAP: this is about a person’s behavior.
This is no different the the ARNG LT who claimed to be a SEAL and got caught. Its not the ARNG, its the LT.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Rumor has it that this woman is way more batsh!t crazy than just wearing these medals. That remains to be seen, though…
It’s too bad that young men and women who aspire to serve honorably when they are older, and look to CAP adults as mentors, occasionally get duped by massive (literally) piles of worthless human beings like Michelle Anderson-Tesla.
May she never dupe another person with her BS. Thanks TAH!
November 5th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Regarding saluting, here’s what I found on the CAP website:
“No, you are a civilian and do not have any obligation to any branch of the military”.
Civilians don’t HAVE to salute anyone.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Fattest pilot I have seen.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Also, I’d say this appears to be relevant. Her Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/GCAGoddess
November 5th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
wow…just..wow.
Aside from the obvious PH and other ribbons and lying about time in country, what struck me first was that face in an “Air Force” uniform. First thought was “Gotta be a poser, not hot enough!”
Looks like I was right. Should be back in the single wide in no time.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Holy sheep shit.. Six rows of ribbons. I think she is trying to out do Colonel Ruby Bradley !!
November 5th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
@21: They are “officially’ the Air Force Auxilliary and I had seen them buying stuff in Clothing Sales, when I was in.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
There have been claims on FB and elsewhere (high school page) of “Flying for the Presidential Service” (orientation flight with cadets on the C-40A that flies Mrs. Obama around, not exactly “I’m a crewmember”), those are aviator wings (there are other photos around the ‘net of her in uniform with ‘em. She rates the aviation badge per her MOS, but not aviator wings), she’s doesn’t rate the AAM, Iraq Service, GWOT or even, per her records, the NDSM.
If you start googling around her various names (Michelle L Anderson, Michelle A. Tesla, Michelle Anderson-Tesla, Chelle Anderson, etc) you will find a broad web of lies and deceit.
November 5th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
@30 Best line I’ve heard today.
November 5th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
For the life of me, I still don’t get why these folks do shit like this. Since I’ve been reading and contributing here this is the first CAP guy/girl I’ve seen. A dubiius “first” for her if it is.
November 5th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
She single handidly squased the “hot airforce chicks” rumor.
November 5th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
She was at Giebelstadt Germany. That was a great post till it closed in 2006.
November 5th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
First off the CAP is the Civil Air Patrol is also known as the USAF Auxiliary. They are the only Civil Defense organization left over from WW2, that wasn’t eaten up into FEMA. They are supposed to help augment the Guardsmen in doing their jobs during civil defense emergencies like Big Bad Sandy. That said, as well don’t get wrapped around the axle about the picture with rows of ribbons the CAP gives out ribbons like Pez Candy for everything from making X number of meetings or Y hours provided of public service/civil defense training. So it could very well be that half if not all of those were ribbons awarded during her time in the CAP.
That said if my memory serves me right you can be auto advanced to certain ranks via prior mil-service. If this is wrong then you can be subjected to penalties from the central HQ for the CAP along with potential criminal penalties as well.
November 5th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
There is no indication she attempted to use prior service for advanced grade in CAP. The “I was a helicopter pilot who got shot down in Iraq” story has only come out in the last 12-24 months.
Any Texas Wing CAP folks know if there was representation of this in Texas?
November 5th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
OK, I’m gonna be the non-PC guy here and point out the obvious.
MAN THE HARPOONS!!
There is no way she could be a blackhawk pilot. Those aircraft have weight limits. I like my women like I like my beer – thick. But this one breaks the damn scale.
November 5th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
@ 39, Are you saying her story would be more believable if she said she flew shithooks?
November 5th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Guys, is not about the weight. Its about the behavior: Bogus Purple Heart claim, bogus Aviator claim, bogus other awards. CAP’s weight standards are different (and I don’t know where she falls). I weighed 50 lbs more than I did on active duty. Age happens, ya know.
Thats not the factor here: the fake claims are.
November 5th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
#41 This Guy
From the pic it looks like CAP’s height and weight standards are the same as the Kuwaiti military.
November 5th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
So the civil air patrol let her resign instead of firing her? That is some weak sauce. Major Marie Rossi must be turning over in her grave at Arlington.
November 5th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
#42: The standards are more relaxed than the AF standards. Without putting someone on a scale, its hard to tell. I know people who hide 20-30 lbs pretty good.
#43: Maj Rossi was my XO many years ago. She died with a friend of mine as her co-pilot. I wholeheartedly agree.
November 5th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Has the Civil Air Patrol been notified that there is a poser in their midst?
November 5th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
#44, You say the AF has height and weight standards?
November 5th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Her facebook photos albums have to totaled motor vehicles.
Mobile uploads (rollover and shiney side down) and goodby atomic cucumber (on top of force protection pilons)
Wow.
November 5th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
“two” vehicles.
November 5th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Yes, CAP has been notified.
November 5th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Junior Birdman Rosie O’Donnell.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
As far as saluting CAP’s, hen i was at 9th Comm Bn back in the mid to late 1990′s, we were doing a filed exercise, and some high school JROTC came out to the site. L/Cpl Schmuckatelli saluted them. Saluted high school kids. Schmuckatelli was sent back to the battalion. I’m just glad Red Dawn did not launch, wiping out our command. I would hate to have to take orders from a JROTC. WOLVERINES!!!!!
November 5th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
This is the same women who sent out a REGISTRY to a fake wedding to people. She told everyone she had a tragic family occurrence years ago and needs help getting back on her feet. I am sure a stranger is going to buy her a 41 inch TV to make her feel better!
http://www.walmart.com/giftregistry/gr_detail.do?registryId=86182772200
November 5th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Unfortunaley, I looked up to her. One less role model for the 14 year old it seems.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
My apologies for going off track on the whole saluting issue. It’s just that when I saw her photo, I had a flashback to a 2010 blog posting discussion on the Air Force Times site, regarding a female CAP Major that demanded an Air Force NCO render her a salute. I couln’t help but place this fraud into that situation. The real issue is that this loser had the nerve to wear an unearned Purple Heart(just to name one).
The CAP is great organization. But they can now place their names with other great organizations that have been tarnished by association with a fraud: The American Legion-Fake Gunny George Lauve; The VFW-Fake Medic Tina Kersten; The NRA-Prison SEAL Jason Truitt; Tim Poe-Defenders of Freedom;Toys For Tots-Michael Frisoli….I think the last guy also mis-represented himself to Save The Whales to help with his legal defense.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Oh, I agree with you, AverageNCO! That angle should definitely be checked. Not that it is the biggest of issues, but one more slam for this chick should it turn out to be her.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
#53 maurer172
No worries young’n, there’re plenty of the real McCoy around to emulate. Just sift for BS.
November 5th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
maurer172 – I’m sorry you were bamboozled. Lots of people were. Sometimes people are not what they seem, but I assure you that these cases are few and far between. There are many excellent female role models, in CAP and beyond.
November 5th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
@13 Martinjmpr is correct. Headstart for German is a a book and a bunch of tapes (now digitized and available at the FSI site http://fsi-language-courses.org/Content.php; the new Headstart is here http://hs2.lingnet.org/). If she had done German basic at DLI it would be a different story. Some Army folks do the Gateway course at DLI Washington, but I’m guessing she didn’t.
Glad she is getting this attention, she deserves it…
Jorge (former MLI at DLI Monterey)
November 5th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Somebody, Please rip the Aviator Wings off of her. A helo pilot , no way. Federal laws are broken claiming O-rank then the Purple Heart. Joe
November 5th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Last I heard air traffic controllers in the army had crew wings? Right? Don’t know about in 2002 time though.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Now, y’all – she’s legit. Her records give her duty assignment as “Vehicle Driver”. That’s what pilots do – drive air vehicles. Right? (smile)
Seriously, good job whoever busted her. I’m guessing Jonn’s dead-on-target and that “resignation” from the CAP was a “get while the gettin’s good” and had absolutely nothing to do with “politics”.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Ha ha ha, Hondo.
November 5th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
@ItsMe re #52 – so you know her?
November 5th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Okay….I’m and ex-Air Force type….but what exactly is the U.S. Army Lapel Pin noted on here dd-214?
November 5th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Something else is wierd here. The 15Q (formerly 93Q) Air Traffic Control AIT Course is taught at Fort Rucker, Alabama. It’s 15 weeks long now, was a bit longer…so it should have shown up on her records, too, right?
November 5th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
These records are odd. Definately something fishy. Did she produce these for the FOIA request? Who the hell put this record together?!
November 5th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
@64. The lapel pin was (is?) given to Soldiers as they ETS, usually during out-processing. I never knew it counted as an actual award, either.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Then, if she *was* an air traffic controller, they assigned her to the ATC unit (58th is still ATC, i’m certain) as a driver, and for 14 months she didn’t work as a controller?
It’s expensive training and a tough MOS to get, but no utilization?
Smells funnier. Calling in friends who may know her.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
If she took the training but proved to be a complete screwup in some way, then no, she would not be put into a position that is high-stress with a high competency requirement.
November 5th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Why would she have been awarded crew wings if she was only a driver and not a controller? What the hell is going on?
November 5th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
In his book, “Stolen Valor”, BG Burkett documented how some phonies began their scam even before they left the service. They used connections in the personnel offices to spruce up their information that actually ended up making it on to their DD214. I’m not saying that happened here for certain. But there are just some weird things on her record I’ve never seen before, such as the non-DLI language class, and the Army Lapel Pin? Maybe I’m just cluess, but those records just seem off to me.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
FYI, after 2000 or 2001, most if not all of the Aviation MOSs in the Army were awarded the newly rechristened “Army Aviation Badge”.
Much like “occupational badges” are awarded in the AF for career fields, the Army has awarded the Aviation Badge for all the Aviation MOSs (If I am not mistaken, and I could be, there aren’t many post-AIT MOSs in the Army that award a badge like that except, maybe EOD or something)
I was awarded “Army Aircrew Wings,” be even back then they were awarded to all AIT graduates from Army Aviation maintenance course (the 67-series), but not he “Allied Shops” courses like hydraulics, sheet metal, etc. So every mechanic got them, even if they were not aircrew. It was only after 2000 did they start with _all_ the Aviation MOSs: ATC, flight ops, the support fields, etc.
Those records are basically the “summary” record from NPRC in lieu of a full DD-214. There may be some reason that the NPRC will not release the full-up redacted DD-214, such as character of service at discharge, any kind of medical or PII, etc.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
@58 — Are those DLI links available to everyone, even if we’re not in the service any more?
November 5th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
No 600-9 standards in the CAP, I guess. Maybe you can’t find her Blackhawk because she ate it.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Air Traffic Controller and Linguist – fuckin’ smart chick! LOL
November 5th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
That button seems to be streched. You can see the shirt under it.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
#72–Ref the wings, that’s how I understand it.
Still don’t understand why her records don’t show Mother Rucker for AIT and a controller position in Germany. I suppose it’s possible (unlikely) she was TDY from FLW to Rucker for ATC school. Then, either she arrived in Germany and the unit was deployed so she was rear-det and got no ATC utilization (unlikely), or for some reason was unsuited to be ATC (how did she get through ATC school?) and was made a driver until separated from service.
Possible, i suppose, she arrived in Germany pregnant. In her facebook she mentions a son; assume 6 months on limited duty like driver, followed by the usual family-care-plan-rodeo for a few months, then separation from service? Possible.
Magically becoming a purple-heart shot-down Blackhawk pilot? Nah.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
#77: I’m not 100% sure why those records read like that. Perhaps due to the length of the school? Maybe if its less than 90 days, its “TDY enroute” versus “assigned to the school Bn”? I honestly have no clue as to the occasional whim of the personnel wonks at DA.
My records reflect every single day spent anyplace from the day I enlisted to my BASD to causal status enroute from Basic to AIT, etc. Maybe DA had a note on my file that said “This one likes to wander away. Keep close tabs.”
As to the “Driver” thing, remember that every unit has a TO&E or MTO&E, and every warm body is supposed to have a line number. Maybe she arrived and all the “controller” line numbers were filled, so they parked her in a driver slot.
The unit is a COMMZ unit (I believe they did all the flight following and airspace coordination for ALL of Germany, not “air traffic control tower” or even “radar approach control” stuff), so maybe she said “I don’t want to be a scope-dope, I signed up to be a controller in the tower. I’d rather drive a CUCV than fill out flight-following strips..” and *pow* she’s the 1SG’s driver. Or they put her on the controller certification path and she wasn’t able to “certify” in the required amount of time and they reassigned her to be the Bn S1 Driver or something. A guy I knew in my unit was holding down an aviation maintenance slot in a line company while actually performing duties as the Battalion’s S1 driver, schlepping paperwork from one camp to another, back before email made that superfluous.
November 6th, 2012 at 12:16 am
Let’s not bring her kid into this. That’s fucked up.
November 6th, 2012 at 1:49 am
ANALYSIS:
Forehead 6 inches in height = more space for air (not brain).
Being in the Civil Air Patrol (CAP) is like being in Iraq.
Flying a Cessna 150 is like flying a Blackhawk.
Recieving the CAP Good Citizen Ribbon is like being awarded the Purple Heart.
Having diabetes from consumming copious amount of junk food and Mountain Dew is like having a TBI and PTSD.
Being an overweight ugly girl poser is like being a sh*t hot female combat helo pilot.
END OF ANALYSIS
November 6th, 2012 at 1:57 am
I am a Captain in the Civil Air Patrol. I take it very seriously and I cringe whenever one of these incidents happen, because it makes ALL of us look like a bunch of fools.
We are the volunteer Auxiliary of the USAF (something I am very proud of), and are allowed the privilege of wearing the AF uniform, with AF-prescribed modifications. Unfortunately, our relationship with the AF has suffered over the past 20 years or so, and whenever something like this happens, I despair of it ever getting any better.
Clarify: Military personnel are NOT required to salute us, but they can if they so desire. Most do, but even when they don’t, I’m quite content with a friendly greeting. However, we ARE required to salute all military personnel senior in grade to us.
Whenever a CAP officer falsely trolls for a salute they are not entitled to, the story gets around QUICK (especially with the internet; I remember that AF Times story) and it makes all of us look stupid. However, it doesn’t happen as much as some might lead you to believe.
I don’t know Major Anderson-Tesla. However, if her Army service record turns out to be BS, I really hope she’ll do the decent thing and resign from CAP.
November 6th, 2012 at 2:08 am
#79 Chosen One,
I didn’t “bring her kid into this” except as a possible explanation for her odd assignment history.
That is NOT f*cked up. That an assessment of possibility.
November 6th, 2012 at 3:29 am
Being over weight is apparently not something new to this one. That FTU assignment up there on her records is from the Fitness Training Unit. Looks like she went there before she even made it to a BCT unit so it would appear that she was on the weighty side when she got to BCT. And it looks like the FTU didnt help any…..
November 6th, 2012 at 4:10 am
@ CAPCapt
You say: “I don’t know Major Anderson-Tesla. However, if her Army service record turns out to be BS, I really hope she’ll do the decent thing and resign from CAP.”
I say: “I don’t know Anderson-Tesla, but I know her type all too well. If her Army service record turns out to be BS, the USAF and CAP will fire her and refer the issue to USAF OSI, Army CID, federal authorities, and local police to investigate whether she ever benefitted from her fraud.”
Her resignation is not an option.
November 6th, 2012 at 4:11 am
We were given the lapel pin upon ETS in the 80s and 90s in the Army. It was a gold minuteman on a red background with a gold circular border, if I remember correctly. Don’t know if they still award them today.
November 6th, 2012 at 4:35 am
@85 – They do. Putting them on a DD-214 is new to me though.
November 6th, 2012 at 4:36 am
86 is me. Sitting in for my CPT while he is on leave. His computer, etc.
November 6th, 2012 at 8:10 am
CAP is a volunteer organization .. She is NOT being paid! Sooo, why?
November 6th, 2012 at 8:19 am
@83. More likely she couldn’t pass the physical proficiency test given at Reception and was sent to FTU to get in shape. If she couldn’t make weight or tape prior to shipping, she wouldn’t have left the recruiting office.
November 6th, 2012 at 8:19 am
@88: Because some don’t know the difference between a CAP uniform and a USAF uniform. Ergo, she could have attempted to use the uniform for purposes other then proscribed by CAP regulations. It has happened before and could happen again. Who really knows what goes through the head of some of these folks who are fakers?
November 6th, 2012 at 8:27 am
@90. Concur, concur, concur. Most Americans have little to no day-to-day interaction with current Servicemembers, so they don’t know what “right” looks or sounds like. To most Americans, a uniform with lots of bells and whistles means military. It’s something that posers of all stripes take advantage of. I’m certain she rocked her CAP uniform every chance she got. “I’m going to the mall. Think I’ll wear my Blues today.”
November 6th, 2012 at 9:35 am
When I enlisted in August of 01 we had a few fat bodies that somehow made it past the screening and got held back at what our Drills so lovingly called Fat Camp aka FTU. Youre right though, that is where the folks who cant make the initial PFT end up at until they can or they get sent home. Either way, being sent to FTU isnt the greatest way to start your time in the service.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Maybe this was too obvious, but given the margins for the article, I read,
“Chelle Lynne Anderson-Tesla; female pretender”
Wow, stolen valor at a whole new level.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:02 am
#92: I got sent to FTU cuz the night before the reception station PT screening we’d been so freaked about the “Correct, military-style pushup” emphasis on form that several of us knocked out pushups in the barracks to test ourselves. Nobody told us about “day on, day off” recovery. Yeah, thanks!
This bored PFC (he’d been a CPL the day before.. NJP moves in strange ways) was grading the test and he kept going “7…7…7…8..9…10..10..10″ Off to FTU I went for 2 weeks.
Couldn’t have been all bad: I did 10+ years.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:01 am
It might be a bad picture, she looks pretty good on her Facebook page.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:41 am
I’m a 2nd Lieutenant in the Virginia Wing, CAP. I’m also a member of the Army Reserve, so I’m familiar with both sides of this situation.
The issue here with this character (I’ve had contact with her in the past via e-mail and shes…not the brightest to say the least) is that she used her fake “I was a Captain” story to enter CAP as a Captain. While there isn’t financial gain in it for her on a pay level, the Civil Air Patrol is a Congressionally Chartered 501c nonprofit, which means she had access to the wing funds as well as fundraising done at the Wing level. I also saw via her facebook that her Uncle is Rich Anderson, a member of the CAP Board of Governors as well as a member of the Virginia House of Delegates, so I’m willing to bet she’ll go running to Uncle for help.
Ultimately whoever let her into CAP without asking for her DD-214 is to blame. When I joined CAP, I was asked to send my DD214 from Camp Shelby after OIF, and my NGB 23 from my first term in the NG to the HQ for verification.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:43 am
*** Correction above, my NGB 22 & 23 in the last sentence. ***
November 6th, 2012 at 11:54 am
#96:
A) She’s been in CAP since she was cadet as near as anybody can figure.
B) When she moved over to be a senior, she was probably on AD and nobody ever asked for a DD-214 (it is not required, esp if not asking for advanced rank or training equivalents). She made 1Lt, I’m guessing, on the basis of being a Phase IV (Eaker complete) cadet.
C) Rich Anderson is NOT her uncle. Her married last name was Anderson (no clue where “Tesla” comes from. I’m gonna start adding “-Wright” to my last name, you know, cuz Orville & Wilbur were cool dudes) so I’m guessing the “Uncle Rich” part is a joke because of the last names. Rich Anderson has been asked about her.
D) The Aviator Wings, Purple Heart and other decorations and bravado about being shot down in Iraq came after she moved back to VA from TX. Nobody would think to ask CAP Captain who had been in for > 15 years to supply a DD-214 when they show up from another wing. Most people would assume its all legit.
November 6th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
#98
That makes sense. I assumed that she had joined based on her falsified Army record. I stand corrected.
I also assumed based on her facebook listing of Rich as her Uncle that they were related.
Overall, she still serves as a reminder to be vigilant when encountering prior service members in CAP.
Thanks for the corrections!
November 6th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
@92 in ’78 we called them potato boys and made them run road guard…wear the bright orange vest and sprint ahead to every crossing even though there were no vehicles anywhere and made them wait until everyone passed and then made them spring ahead to the next crossing.
November 6th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Any mechanism to make sure the feds or the state police investigate her? A slap on the wrist from or getting booted out of a civilian non-profit group isn’t exactly harsh punishment and most certainly doesn’t stop this obviously sick, sick land-manatee from doing this again and again in other organizations or just parading around in uniform elsewhere.
If the police or feds get involved, an actual criminal charge would bring some consequences to her actions. As it stands right now, other than the great guys at TAH outting her on the internets, she’s not going to feel much of anything from all this. She’ll just add a new name to her moniker “Chelle Anderson-Obama” and move on to another organization or group of unwitting people.
What do we do to stop that?
November 6th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
It would be awsome if somebody could “procecute” the tundra wookie.
November 6th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
@100. I was a wide body when I went through OSUT in 83. The days I spent as rear roadguard made a deep and lasting impact on young PVT LebbenB. If it weren’t for coffee and Copenhagen I’da never made through.
November 6th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
I just realized we’re over a hundred posts on this one. I think she’s a lock for next year’s tournament. The only thing that would make it better is if she or her sockpuppet were to show up here and “defend” her record.
November 6th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Can’t wait for a good nickname. Ballduster McSoulpatch is already taken, dammit.
November 6th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
@105: Private First Major Land-Manatee
November 6th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Having been a cadet and senior member in VA Wing, this shit is rampant in CAP here
November 6th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
#106: I dunno who you are, but I like the way you think!
November 6th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Manatee McFakehawk
November 6th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Manatee McBlubberCheeks
November 6th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
#106 very nice.
November 6th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RE:#106:
Knock it off, just knock it off. I live in Florida and the Manatee is our friend. We don’t need to denigrate the nice mammal by claiming them to look like this “Mike Moore Relative”.
November 6th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Michelle “Purple Blackhawk” Anderson?
November 6th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
@MCPO USN NYC (Ret.):
Of course, you are correct.
As I’ve said, every time I hear about stupidity like this coming from within the ranks of CAP, it makes me cringe, to put it mildly.
When I’ve been on a military base (of any service) in CAP uniform, I am painfully aware of the reputation of CAP in some military circles because of BS like this…I feel almost like apologizing to the military for the transgressions of some of CAP’s bad actors.
November 6th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
@ CAP Capt. Rog that on all!
BTW the CAP is on scene here in NY and NJ flying missions in support of Recovery. They do everything from mapping, photo recon, security patrols, logistics mission, and more. My newphew is in the CAP at at the age of 13 got his glider rating and about to test out on single enhine private. Great ORG … snap it off in her dump truck!
November 6th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Slingload Crashhawk?
November 6th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
@PH2 #73 Why, yes they are
Enjoy. I recommend the downloadable versions of the Headstarts. The servers sometimes hiccup. If you are interested in a particular language, let me know. Part of my job down here is researching the good free language stuff.
November 6th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Her direct report in VA Wing CAP has been provided with this link and I know him personnally. He will take this very seriously.
The wings may be for one of our Emergency Services qualifications such as being a Mission Observer or Mission Scanner.
November 7th, 2012 at 12:43 am
Those are Army pilot wings. This has been determined from multiple pictures. There is no record in Ops Quals of her being qualified as MS or MO.
November 7th, 2012 at 2:29 am
@ 119 … Any relation to Seaman Schmuckatelli? There was at least one on each ship I ever rode!
November 7th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Mary @ POWNetwork deserves the lion’s share of the credit (obtaining the FOIA request), and Jonn here at TAH for running with it.
There were some (many) inconsistencies in this lady’s story and some folks from VA Wing CAP started asking questions of “those in the know” on things Army. And it went from there.
Odd that you’d be an Army Aviator and not have a single photo from flight school, your unit, have any “Army buddies” as friends, etc, on your Facebook.
Nevermind that female Aviators are a small enough subset of Army Aviation and wounded female Army Aviators are even fewer. Then there was the cross checking of UH-60 accidents in Iraq. No Class A or Class B accident reports seemed to fit the bill. None. Nada.
And then there was just the unending stream of BS on Facebook, Twitter and no doubt “in person.” And cadets just lapping it up. “Oh, wow, ma’am, you’re a decorated Army Aviator who was wounded!”
From experience: cadets, sadly, do not have any kind of military background to have a BS filter yet. They’re teenagers who are learning about military core values: Integrity, honesty, duty, respect, loyalty, honor, etc. (Things pretty near and dear to TAH reader’s hearts, right?)
But they just don’t know enough to separate the wheat from the chaff. When presented with a “wounded veteran” they’re not going to say “really? Bust out your DD-214, ma’am, before I’ll listen to you.” No, they think “CAP Captain, decorated, wow..” and listen to the tales of derring do. That are all made up. Out of whole cloth.
And that is why people took the time to track down this info: Some are vets, some have never served, but all have experience in a uniform of some sort or another (amazingly so) and have worked with cadets and know that cadets need to be taught and led by people who actually do possess and embody the traits they’re learning: Integrity, honor, selfless service, duty, respect, honesty, candor.
The search for legitimate records was made difficult by a lack of information: service dates, actual last name when served, etc. You *can* request records under FOIA, but as you see, they’re heavily redacted and/or summarized.
Request after request came back “No information found”. This, of course, can mean anything: The wrong identifying info was submitted, or there actually is no record of this person because they never served (it is hard to “prove a negative” in this case).
Remember, too, that people who do this kind of fakery get by in the margins: their story is “sort of right” and without all the info a random person might be unwilling to just call someone out with just a hunch. So they skate on.
It wasn’t until _several_ folks in CAP, both in Virginia and on Facebook, noticed the Purple Heart, the “crashed in Iraq” narrative, and any number of other inconsistencies in the story that someone started asking harder questions.
Experience has shown that when you poke a story like this with a stick it usually falls apart, and this one did, too. After that it was a matter of lining up the evidence to confirm the supposition (difficult, as outlined above). Nobody wants to call someone who is legit a liar, so you always want to be sure.
November 7th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Well, she does have Army friends on FB. Her old profile had a pic of her in the left seat (not right) during a helicopter flight (so we know she wasn’t the pilot).
Her ex husband said she was hurt very bad in the Army bit wouldn’t say much more.
Her CAP commander says she is as dumb as a box of rocks and was going to be fired from her position anyways.
November 7th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
*right seat, not left. <—- That's what I meant. Sorry. Left would make her the pilot. Oops!
November 7th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
@ #123 – The primary pilot sits on the right in helicopters.
@ #95 – She’s 5’9″ and weighs 180. I’m 5’10″ and weight 180. Does that tell you anything? They call them Bremaloes up in the Puget Sound area – Bremerton Buffaloes.
November 8th, 2012 at 1:45 am
#124 – How the hell do you know how tall she is and how much she weights?!
November 8th, 2012 at 2:15 am
@ 125 … With a name like Joe Schmuckatelli … of course he knows everything!
November 8th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
to vawg
Maj. Tesla will not be able to perform her duties as the VAWG Director of Aerospace Education for the next month or so. LtCol. **** ***** will be the Acting DAE during this period. This change is effective immediately and will be in effect until further notice. Please contact LtCol. ****** for any AE issues or questions.
****** * ******
LTCOL CAP
Chief of Staff
Virginia Wing
Civil Air Patro
November 8th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
@121
“They’re teenagers who are learning about military core values: Integrity, honesty, duty, respect, loyalty, honor, etc. (Things pretty near and dear to TAH reader’s hearts, right?)”
And that’s the real, sad betrayal. This kids are supposed to be learning things about honor and integrity from someone who clearly has none.
November 9th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Anyone know if the suicide rumor about her is true? It happened yesterday.
November 10th, 2012 at 6:47 am
@129, what “rumor” was it you heard?
November 10th, 2012 at 9:06 am
No, she did not commit suicide. It’s hard to commit suicide while also posting under the moniker “ChosenOne”.
Also, she is no longer a member of CAP. Well done, TAH.
November 10th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
@131 correct about not having committed, however not because of supposed posting as chosenone, that post-er does not read as her.
November 10th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
@117 — Jorge, my thanks for that! I will sign up for them. I just didn’t want someone from DoD sniping at me for wanting to learn other languages and/or keep up with language skills (although my Spanish accent does sound very Mexican, but that’s what I get for listening to las mamis en el autobus.) Muchas gracias.
November 10th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Ex-PH2: does PH2 stand for Pilot, Helo, 2nd Class? I mean if a PFC can be a helo pilot, why not you?!
November 10th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
PH2 stands for Photographers Mate Second Class (E-5).
It has now been changed, for no good reason, to Media Specialist
P which takes all the romance and fun out of it. I mean, Media Specialist sounds like someone sitting at a desk, not like someone embedded in a Combat Camera Group.
November 10th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Ex-PH2: since the Navy didn’t trust us, Jarheads, with our own Chaplains or PHs I know what you’re saying. Any time they wanted a “Dog & Pony” for the media, it was always sailors there with the cameras. A good 50% of the time it was WAVEs. I gotta admit none of them were as hot as you!?;)
November 10th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Yat, that picture was taken in 1969. I’m not quite that young and self-involved these days.
November 12th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Stolen Valor is in the Army as well !!!!!! A good example is the awarding of the Bronze Star for {EVERY MERITORIOUS ACT THAT IS NOT COMBAT!!} TO ALL YOU SORRY PECKER HEADED BRASS… JUST BECAUSE YOUR IN THE COUNTRY IT DOESN’T MEAN YOUR IN COMBAT!!!! THE LEADERSHIP THINK THE ONLY BRONZE STAR FOR COMBAT IS THE ONE WITH V_DEVICE. PUT THEIR BRAINS IN A FROG -IT WOULD HOP BACKWARDS !!!THEIR IS MERITORIOUS SERVICE OR ACHIEVEMENT IN COMBAT NUMB-NUTS !!!
November 12th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Stolen Valor is in the Army as well !!!!!! A good example is the awarding of the Bronze Star for {EVERY MERITORIOUS ACT THAT IS NOT COMBAT!!} TO ALL YOU SORRY PECKER HEADED BRASS… JUST BECAUSE YOUR IN THE COUNTRY IT DOESN’T MEAN YOUR IN COMBAT!!!! THE LEADERSHIP THINK THE ONLY BRONZE STAR FOR COMBAT IS THE ONE WITH V-DEVICE. PUT THEIR BRAINS IN A FROG – IT WOULD HOP BACKWARDS !!! THERE IS MERITORIOUS SERVICE OR ACHIEVEMENT IN COMBAT NUMB-NUTS !!!
November 12th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
SSG Cox: we get it that you have the proverbial “hard-on” for the way the BSM is currently awarded. However, your bringing up the subject in comments to this article makes no sense whatsoever.
Regarding your apparent point: if you’ll bother to actually read AR 600-8-22, you will find that there is no requirement for direct participation in ground combat for award of the BSM for service or achievement. There never has been. All that is required is service or achievement “in connection with” combat operations, plus (since 2001) receipt of combat/imminent danger pay. Recognizing award of the BSM for valor in combat is precisely why the V device is used by the Army – e.g., to identify those who earned their BSM due to valorous acts vice by service or achievement.
And as for that “just because your (sic) in country doesn’t mean your (sic) in combat” comment – yeah, right. Tell that to all those on installations in Iraq or Afghanistan who were wounded on-base by direct or indirect fire – or to the NOK of those killed on-base by direct or indirect fire. A fair number of such casualties happened while and where I was deployed. Neither IDF or direct fire care if you’re inside or outside the wire. If you’re getting shot at, you’re serving in combat – inside or outside the wire.
Bottom line: you’ve voiced your opinion, as well as shown your ignorance. You probably should give it a rest for a while.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
@138/139. Have you considered Decaf?
November 12th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
@ 137: Ex-PH2, you were a hottie then and you’re still a hottie to us old guys!!!
November 12th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
A Bronze Star is awarded for acts of heroism, acts of merit, or meritorious service in a combat zone. For (heroic) actions in combat, it is awarded with a combat distinguishing device, also known as a “Combat V”. This is common knowledge. Now, if someone was awarded a Silver Star for acts of merit or meritorious service in a combat zone when the SILVER STAR is reserved for gallantry in action against an enemy of the United States, you might have something to whine about. Put succinctly: what Hondo said.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
@142 — YatYas, you are an incorrigible flirt. I could just eat that up with a spoon. You’re not so bad yourself, you know.
OK, I have to do something in return. Can you use cupones de descuenta? I have a bunch I can send to you.
November 12th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
@117, Jorge, if you can find a site that offers free lessons in Latin, which I need for a book, that would be wonderful. Thank you!!
November 12th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Still not appropriate for this particular topic, but I can assure any who doubt that there were plenty of times while in DS/DS/DS that I felt more than a little bit vulnerable. No, I am not a combat vet. Yes, I got hazardous duty pay. We were close enough that we were sometimes within range of some serious stuff, depending. Mostly we were not. But, we constantly looked across a scrawny fence which camels broke down easily at a public highway which was accessible to any fool who might take a notion to lob (no mechanical launching device necessary) something deadly at my sleeping tent.
No, I was not terrified at the prospect, but I can tell you that I slept more soundly sacked out on the “conferance table” at my work station than in my sleeping tent just because it was more difficult to access. Had an incident occurred at our location, there could easily have been individual actions which warranted some super hero awards in spite of our not being at the front.
We were awarded none for things which happened on our little base because after all was said and done, nothing happened which warranted it. But a few members got them for actions they were involved with at forward locations. And the few infiltrators that we had were neutralized in short order.
So I remain grateful that I was not in a situation where I might have earned one.
November 12th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
ATC huh? Certainly looks like shes successfully landed a quite a few cheeseburgers in her gullet.
November 12th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Shit that there is proof Dallass Wittingfeld procreated.
November 13th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Where is the proof that she has “she represented herself as combat-wounded Army Aviation Captain”?
November 13th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Do you really want me to bring that out? Because I have screen shots. You know I do.
November 13th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
@149, the top left ribbon sure looks like Purple Heart Ribbon to me. If you have any doubt, comapre it to here: http://www.google.com/search?q=purple+heart+ribbon&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=rKuiUK_uCsuv0AG2nYHwDA&ved=0CEMQsAQ&biw=1536&bih=782
November 13th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
To start with, she’s wearing a purple heart in the picture above….
November 13th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Well, Anonymous (149), let me spell part of that out for you. Ribbons she’s wearing, viewer’s L to R (inboard to outboard):
Top Row: PH, AAM, AGCM
2nd Row: NDSM, ICM, GWOTSM
3rd Row: ASR, OSR, unk (probably CAP-unique ribbons)
4th/5th/6th Rows: unk (probably CAP-unique ribbons)
She also looks to be wearing aviator’s wings above the ribbons.
Last time I checked, the only way one gets a PH is to be wounded/injured as the result of enemy action – in other words, to be “combat wounded”. Add the aviator’s wings, and that translates to claiming to be a combat-wounded aviator.
And in the Army, pilots are either WOs or commissioned. So if she’s claimed to be a pilot while in the Army, she sure as hell was claiming one or the other.
Hope that helps.
November 13th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
@149 According to her Twitter, she’s claiming to be an Army Captain.
November 15th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
According to multiple social media accounts (various CAP sites, Twitter, FB, etc) she has claimed to many that she was injured when her Blackhawk was “shot down” over Iraq. Hard to do when a) Not an Army aviator; b) not in the service when Iraq War was going on; c) hadn’t served in Iraq.
November 15th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
@153.
Call me crazy, but a few of them look like ROTC/JROTC cadet ribbons.
November 15th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
ROTC/JROTC/CAP ribbons might all be the same. Dunno. I’ve never been in any of those organizations, but it makes a degree of sense.
November 15th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
All the ribbons below the Overseas Ribbon are expected CAP ribbons. Nothing really out of the ordinary.
November 15th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
While going through her Twitter feed I found claims of her being in a crash, being a CNO and being an Army Captain. It would seem that she deleted her Twitter account right after Jonn posted the screenshots I sent him
November 16th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
@159, There’s plenty PLENTY of other claims and just plain crazy stuff she’s posted online. Good thing we’ve collected most of it before she could delete her completely nonsensical years-long web of lies. I can always forward some screenshots as well, to add to the dogpile.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Ribbons – the bottom three rows are all CAP ribbons.
HT/WT – that info is available online from the members-only CAP site.
December 5th, 2012 at 4:44 am
-93C ATC school…minimum enlistment to get that school is 6 years. So the departure was med or forced
-Shot Down in 07 would get you a VA status that would make you soooo competitive for anything you wanted to do that would pay much better. Look at the VA Il director. She was an old boss and injured blackhawk pilot.
This retard couldn’t strap herself into a blackhawk, nevermind fly one.
That purple ribbon on the top row better match the DD214 or she might be looking at jail time, uless you are a congressman…
December 12th, 2012 at 1:44 am
Can you say “pathological”, drug seeking, attention slut? Sad part: she has full custody of a pyschopath of tomorrow! Sorry to say a bit TOO personal involvement with this individual. Not desiring “revenge”, but wish some where she could get either help with her psychosis, or jail. Sad fact is she’s more likely to just keep finding victims to abuse & use and move on to target more! Thanks, tho, for proving my gut instincts to her lies were spot on. Sad for the many others who trusted, gave a lot of themselves, only to be hurt when the truth comes out. Sad for the young people in our cap wing too. Glad I kept mine out! Feel free to email me for intimate, gory details.
December 14th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
#163: No email provided (we can’t see your email as supplied)
February 8th, 2013 at 12:43 am
I know Michelle, and I just found this site and am just horrified. I met her a couple of years ago at an event for a wounded vet. I have remained in contact with her up until recently, when it seemed she fell off the face of the earth. I feel like a schmuck! I fell for all of her lies. Most of all, I am deeply saddened and disgusted all at once. I’m so pissed that she has scammed her way into so many people’s lives, all the while being a traitor. Has there been any more info or updates since the last post on Dec 14th?
February 8th, 2013 at 12:50 am
I dont think there has been. Usually TAH post updates on people.
February 11th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
http://www.facebook.com/groups/249849541798600/
She’s posting here on this Civil Air Patrol Discussion Group and has even been added as Admin.
February 14th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Word is she was not actually eliminated from the organization, but instead allowed to resign in lieu of termination. (thats a common “easy way out” for a commander. Its a bit of a cop out, but when you don’t necessarily want to go thru the asspain of putting together a completely open-and-shut termination case, or you’ve got bigger things to worry about, this is a way for the commander to get the resolution he wants)
But also the word is that she’s convinced some sympathetic folk in the hierarchy in Florida that this is all a big misunderstanding and her official records are incomplete, so she’s trying to rejoin in Florida.
Sound familiar?
We’ll see how this works for ya, Chelle.
February 14th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
This Guy:
Got contact info for the Florida CAP HQ?
February 17th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
OMG, she’s a piece of work! She should be in friggin’ JAIL!
She got an award in July 2012
Paul E. Garber Award
•Capt. Shawn O. Lawson, CA
•Maj. Sarabjeet S. Lohara, CA
•Maj. William M. Waite, CO
•Capt. Sherwin R. Callwood, FL
•Capt. Thomas M. Lewis, FL
•Maj. Joseph L. Jones, GA
•Lt. Col. Sanford C. Wise, GA
•Maj. James M. Currie, IA
•Capt. Ronald J. Walerowicz, IL
•Lt. Col. Edco Bailey, MD
•Maj. Emily K. Hudson, MD
• Maj. Karen Busch Walker, MD
•Maj. Dawn J. Lynch, MT
•Maj. Sharon A. Nichols, MT
•Maj. Leonard D. Cassell, NE
•Chief Master Sgt. Lou E. Walpus, NHQ
•Maj. Luis F. Longhi, NJ
•Capt. Matthew S. Bates, OH
•Capt. Richard G. Ouellette, OR
•Maj. Jeffry A. Smith, PA
•Maj. Louis E. Piche, TN
•Maj. Jane B. Smalley, TX
•Maj. Ryan E. Livergood, UT
•Maj. Michelle L. Anderson-Tesla, VA
•Capt. Cheryl Fielitz-Scarbrough, WV
•Capt. Ivan M. Scarbrough, WV
March 8th, 2013 at 3:41 am
Ohh geez. I’m an inactive CAP member (VAWG), and have lurked the site off and on for a while now. I’m upset to see a (now former, I’m guessing) CAP member on here.
@107 – I didn’t get involved at the wing level, so maybe I was even further removed, but I can’t say this sort of thing was “too” rampant. I never encountered these types in my squadron.
Anywho, for some reason, she has two Facebook profiles…even though she’s still using both daily. I don’t know; something about her leads me to believe she’s one can (or two, maybe three) short of a six-pack. But considering that she posts/likes pretty much the same stuff on both profiles, I’m guessing she’s REALLY bad at trying the whole “living a double life” thing.
Like I said, though I’m inactive, I still have some connections to my old squadron members through Facebook; as a matter of fact, one of them is a friend of hers as well. I may do a little poking around, and see what the deal with her is now.
March 8th, 2013 at 4:12 am
Okay, just figured something out. The one profile, linked directly above, is her personal page, where you can add her as a friend. The other account she used on that discussion page is for her other profile, which you can only subscribe to.
That being said, take a look at some of the posts on the latter profile. Not exactly Wing-level material, but that may have been the least of her problems as far as CAP was concerned.
March 20th, 2013 at 12:09 am
It gets weirder. She started a BDSM, bisexual club for women in VA called the Wayward Women’s Club on Facebook where they discuss sex toys, bondage, spankings in actual real time meetings offline. Talk about a role model for the cadets! She apparently has been moth-balled in the CAP in a low profile position until the heat simmers down. It is a common way they hide deviants in the program rather than getting rid of them.
March 20th, 2013 at 12:26 am
She has been telling everyone in the CAP that she sued & won against this website. Many believe she is a victim and continue to believe in her lies. It goes to show you how dumb people can be despite the proven truth right in their faces. So, she remains.
March 20th, 2013 at 12:34 am
And the lies continue. Check out her current LinkedIn account: She claims to hold the position of Office of Strategic Planning at United States Department of Defense.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/michelle-anderson-tesla/50/8a7/7ba
March 20th, 2013 at 4:29 am
No! No no no!! Not another phony in Florida.
Not only are we a “Premiere Vacation Destination” (Ha!) but now a safe haven for these “Fake Warrior” asstards!?!
March 20th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Well, Valkyrie, Casey & Cindy Anthony plus Ron & Misty (Croslin) Cummings have showcased Florida as the premier “Parenting” state
I think you and all female vets would be the perfect medium to straighten them out. Since Ron & Misty got a well deserved judicial clobbering that just leaves Cindy and Casey.
March 26th, 2013 at 5:27 am
@Jeff – So is she not resigning/getting the boot from CAP? If not, that’s awful and I can’t imagine the kinds of people who want to keep her around. At this point I’m tempted to join that discussion page to post this article AND the thread about her over on a CAP forum, from which she was banned!
I saw her little “club” on Facebook too, hence why I said so much of the crap she posts publicly is horribly unprofessional. I see a lot of men following her page. Think she’s got some “boyfriends” keeping her in CAP?
March 26th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
CAP condemns the good and praises the wicked. It has been that way for the past decade. She not only has “boyfriends” mesmerized by her lustful tone, but family in “high places” protecting her. So, she remains.
April 2nd, 2013 at 10:48 am
@Jeff and @Passerby -
She is not a CAP member at this time as far as I can tell. She is still listed as an administrator on two separate Facebook discussion group pages that focus on CAP issues -
https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/249849541798600/admins/?order=default
https://www.facebook.com/#!/VAWGAE/info (where she was the CAP OIC when the SV issue was discovered!)
My concern (as both a veteran and an active CAP member) is that when Ms. Tesla’s name shows up in the next Stolen Valor Tournament here at TAH, CAP’s reputation is going to be dragged through the mud (again) because even though the two Facebook discussion group pages listed above are not official CAP pages, the association between Ms. Tesla and CAP will still be there (and continuing unabated due to her ‘adminstrator’ status as noted above) in the minds of TAH readers and contributors as they review this original posting, Google search her name and connect the dots. This issue has been discussed at length on the CAPTalk forum (including a link to this TAH page), if you want to pull it up again by crossposting this on the CAPTalk forum, feel free, but I seriously doubt it will change anything regarding her status at the links listed above. She’s still got CAP members as friends despite (or maybe because of, in light of her BDSM proclivities) her behavior, that’s for sure.
April 5th, 2013 at 3:22 am
@bobble
If you were concerned about CAP’s reputation, do something about it. Her actions have consequences. Don’t ever be fooled into thinking that her actions don’t have consequences. Everything she does has repercussions if she is not dealt with. It comes back one way or another. Who’s fault is that? It isn’t CAP’s, but those who look the other way, hoping it will just disappear. It won’t disappear unless you do something about it.
April 5th, 2013 at 7:59 am
@Passerby -
Her listing as an administrator has been removed from the first linked page (#180), we’ll see what happens with the second.
April 5th, 2013 at 9:03 am
It’s not all that complicated. Anyone and any organization can get sucked in my an imposter. For a while. It’s what they do about it that displays their own character.
Does the CAP support liars? Is it OK with the CAP to falsely claim veteran status? Do they reward cases of stolen valor?
If they do (which seems to be the case), any respect I ever had for the organization is now gone. They can only rehabilitate that reputation by removing this liar from their rolls, apologizing for their promotion of the liar, etc.
Oh, sure, she will likely claim being persecuted for her involvement in LGBT causes. So what? Her offense is for claiming military honors she simply did not receive.
Maybe this isn’t the only instance of CAP officers making false claims?
April 5th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
@bobble – If you are a military Vet, doesn’t it bother you that she lied about the Purple Heart? Since you are a CAP member, you are responsible to protect CAP’s reputation. Why aren’t you doing anything about it? Does the CAP support liars? Is it OK with the CAP to falsely claim veteran status? Do they reward cases of stolen valor? It has been almost 6 months.
April 8th, 2013 at 4:30 am
Wow. Uh, so at risk of sounding crazy here, posts 181 and 184 were NOT from me, the guy who posted 171, 172, and 178.
But hey, she got taken off of the admin list for that Facebook group and appears to have left/gotten booted from it. So I guess that’s worth something, maybe?
April 9th, 2013 at 9:08 am
Real Passerby (@171, @172 and @178):
S’OK, I realized something had changed in the following posts (@181 and @184) since the tone and syntax were not the same, which is why I didn’t bother responding. Some folks just like to stir the pot, I guess.
Faux Passerby (@181 and @184):
But since I’m here anyway, take the time to read through this whole thread, and you’ll see that there are a number of posters who have noted that this issue has reached the higher levels of the CAP organizational structure. This one hasn’t gotten swept under anybody’s rug, but (and if you yourself are current or former military, you’ll understand) it is Ms. Tesla’s chain of command within the organization that decided/decides the appropriate response to her behaviour. Not me. The best I could do was to crosspost this thread’s link over at the unofficial open CAP forum (which is regularly read by CAP officials) and make sure it received the attention it so richly deserves.
As an aside, perhaps one day you’ll be brave enough to create your own identity here, so we can engage in informative and constructive discourse. Not likely, I know, but one can hope.
April 10th, 2013 at 12:37 pm
Just some observations. I happen to know Miss Tesla, and wanted to share what I know of her vs what may be wrong / what may be right.
Observation shows me the following:
The DoD would always have her legal name, no nicknames. That said, the reports you show have “Chelle Lynn Anderson” – which is NOT her legal name. This brings the rest into question. Her maiden name is in fact Tesla. Not Anderson. Anderson was a married name, in which if I remember correctly she hyphenated. Could be wrong on the hyphenated part.
As for what she did and did not receive, she does have VA benefits. I have no idea on the details of her military career beside what she told me years ago, which has never changed detail for detail, which adds credibility, not saying she wasn’t lying from the beginning, just that usually when you lie about something the details will change as you go.
I can’t say she is guilty or not. I don’t support lies about a military career at all, but we can not judge her based on here-say and records that don’t even have her legal name on them. Had the records stated Michelle Anderson Tesla, or Michelle Tesla (not sure her middle name really) than I’d be 100% on the table. Till then, lets leave it up to JAGs and IGs of the respected forces (CAP / U.S. Army) – trust me, all CAP has to do is submit a verification request to the DoD, and I’m 100% sure her DD-214 would answer any questions.
All I’m saying is – thank you for bring it up, but lets not jump to guilty, let due course take over.
April 10th, 2013 at 12:58 pm
Yeah, let’s not rush to judgement – it’s only been six months and she hasn’t even contacted us and proved us wrong, so let’s not “jump to guilty”. I have no idea why the NPRC has her name like that, but, don’t question me just because I posted their records. In other words, GFY, unless you have something to add to the discussion besides speculation.
April 11th, 2013 at 6:59 am
The documents that were posted above are just a small sampling of solid proof that this chick is a few french fries short of a happy meal. From her BDSM postings, religious titles, and multiple self-inflicted car accidents, you can bet that for every one accusation she (or others) attempt to argue, there are many others to support the truth.
And for those who support her or wish to look the other way, you’re equally as guilty. Seriously, all she needs to do is fess up, come clean, and walk away. This isn’t going to put her in prison and the black helicopters aren’t going to suddenly appear to snatch her up. Just stay away from CAP and stop seeking recognition that is far from deserved.
April 11th, 2013 at 7:41 am
TX_CAP: If you know “Michelle” then you would probably know that her name was “Chelle” (like, LEGALLY) until just a year or so ago (maybe two years now). And that her “maiden” name was Hougan, not Anderson. Nobody knows where “Tesla” seems to have come from. I doubt she does, either.
The fact remains: If you’re *really* an Army officer & Blackhawk pilot with a Purple Heart, you will have a paper trail that someone can at least put their hands on part of thru an FOIA request, like Jonn was able to. You won’t only show up as a PFC Air Traffic Controller with less than 2 years of service. There is no way you wind up an O-3, having gone to OCS or another commissioning source, then a year plus at Fort Rucker, a promotion, then a PCS to Germany, another promotion, and a deployment to Iraq without a shred of documentary evidence. That is _not_ a clerical error. That is outright fabrication.
When someone tells me “Of course you can’t find my records, I was ‘classified’..” or “DD-214? Mine is classified” or something similarly silly, my response has been “I’m pretty sure the Army/Air Force/Marines/Navy had to pay you. And if they paid you, there is at least a record that you were in the service. That part ain’t classified. Its not like the DoD has a whole different pay and finance department just for the Black Ops people, with TS/SCI-cleared payroll clerks.” Nobody who’s been “sheep dipped” is going to join CAP.
If the folks in VA Wing did not outright cashier Michelle, and instead let her resign w/o a termination, then CAP is going to get what it deserves when she pops up on another wing’s rolls with a Silver Star and a CFMB for the “hot evacs” she did in Afghanistan and other places that are classified.
April 11th, 2013 at 8:22 am
She is too chunky to be an officer, anyways. She just wants attention.
April 11th, 2013 at 8:31 am
@190 maybe txcap was part of the bondage crew, thus he wants to defend his little play partner…that she is full of sh1t is as obvious as the simple fact the pope tends to be catholic…..but there is always some 4sshole only too happy to disregard the truth for some tang….you see it every day all over the world.
I’ve nothing against wanting a little sumthin-sumthin….but geez have some standards FFS…
April 11th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
Okay.. seems I’m the only one who is willing to try to view everything in an even light with some intelligence.
#188 & #192 – I wasn’t attacking your evidence, just said it raised a question in my view. I was not saying she is not guilty of lying and of Stolen Valor, but I was saying I didn’t know for sure, as she hasn’t spoken of it at all to me or anyone else around me. So how can I simply step in and judge her when I simply don’t know the truth of the situation. You may be 110% right, or not. Honestly, we can all have options (this is a FREE SPEECH COUNTRY) and it doesn’t mean the options have to be spot on. I will say good job of the find, I wasn’t blasting your post, wasn’t defending her, but I also wasn’t condemning her.
#189 – I have seen several people condemn her for BDSM. It’s a adult activity that she has every right as an american to choose to do or not do. Just as you would. It would be equivalent to you watching porn and someone condemning you for it. Are you over 18? Okay then.. what you do on your time, is your time. I have NEVER met her in person, spoken a few times. I’m married, to a wonderful wife. I have four kids. You want to speak ill of me for posting my options and thoughts on a forum designed to share options and thoughts about such a subject – do so in my face, I’ll gladly give you my name and address. So to all the people on here blasting me for speaking my observations thus far and admitting to you all I can’t say what is true and isn’t at this point – nice way to represent CAP and the Air Force. You should all be so proud.
#190 – You sir have some good points. And as I was only trying to make intelligent conversation about something I would like to know the truth about. Your statement of ” There is no way you wind up an O-3, having gone to OCS or another commissioning source, then a year plus at Fort Rucker, a promotion, then a PCS to Germany, another promotion, and a deployment to Iraq without a shred of documentary evidence.” is right on the mark! She hasn’t defended herself one bit which does raise a huge red flag. If she wanted to defend herself, this is an open forum. Bring your DD-214 and lets clear it all up. But she HASN’T – and because we don’t know her side – from her, we can only go on what we have.. paperwork with different name, her resignation verse fighting it. Her lack of supporting documents stating her claims. Lack of any record of her being awarded a Purple Heart, which I was looking into.
On that note however, my brother was awarded the Bronze Star and Purple Heart – you can’t find his name anywhere online. I know he was awarded these as I stood there and watched him receive them. I honestly think, if she was innocent, she should get a copy of her DD-214, black out all but the last 4 of her SSN, and send it in, so this could be fixed. Her lack of that – honestly states that she is hiding something.
Do I know what? No. Am I saying the author of this topic is wrong in his case against her? NO. All I’m saying is, something doesn’t seem to fit. Be that here or on her side, I can’t honestly say without knowing her side. I have my guesses. Ones that put her in a very dim light indeed.
If this is a case of Stolen Valor, I deeply wish that it was still viewed as a crime so she could pay back the men and women who have actually earned that valor, even if it is by wearing a orange jumpsuit with shiny black numbers on the back. I think it is such a case, but I can’t sit there and say she is guilty without some official process stating that fact. Till then, we are all guessing – and even though that guess is most likely correct, as Americans – and members of CAP, and members of the Armed Forces, we stand for freedoms and a right to defend ourselves – she has that right, granted, she has instead turned tail and ran away.
April 11th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
@193 since it’s no longer a crime the Supreme Court has stated the only remedy for speech that is false is speech that is true. When folks claim things that seem obviously incorrect and perhaps hold a position because of that, some sort of fraud has been committed if not at the level of a criminal offense certainly at the level of a common decency offense our society.
I have no worries about this site falsely accusing me of anything because I don’t lie about my service. If I claim something and Jonn asks me to prove it I will fax my DD-214 or email a photo copy.jpg within 24 hours…I don’t claim anything other than holding an 11b and then an 11c MOS….
This woman has made serious claims that she can’t back up. Honest folks would have no problem backing up their claims, instead this “lady” has moved on to other locations…perhaps where no one knows her. Perhaps to stop telling lies…
Since this is not a crime there is no need for a “beyond the shadow of a doubt” implication. A preponderance of evidence is not even necessary. Lying isn’t a crime after all if there is no money or material gain according to the SCOTUS.
Thus if this site is lying, and according to the Supreme Court, Ms. Andersen need only tell the truth as a remedy….since she has not it would be apparent who the liar is and who they are not.
April 11th, 2013 at 1:12 pm
@ TX CAP … let me net this out for you.
If I was the last male human on earth (who loved all things BDSM and fat) and she (the verified poser) was the last female human on earth …
I would rather drag my balls across 5 miles of broken glass in the opposite direction to stay clear of her.
Any questions?
April 11th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
lmao @ 195. That’s pretty clear.
April 11th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
Looks like she is still looking for attention:
http://www.wusa9.com/news/virginia/article/252683/188/One-Womans-Fight-To-Replace-a-Tattered-American-Flag-
April 11th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
Let me make this perfectly clear to TxCap and anyone else who might be listening around the edges of this mess: I do not give a flip about the CAP and it’s rep. None of my business. However, if they wish to claim any respect from any of us, they need get rid of this poser.
I DO care about claims which would, if true, make the USAF look bad. This attention whore has made claims which would, if true, make the USAF look very bad. But, since they are not true, it only makes her and those who support her look bad.
Since I am retired from the USAF, I will NOT spend a single moment concerned about the hurt feelings of someone who attempted to claim any sort of benefit from an imagined tour of duty with MY organizaton. I have in the past dealt with others who tried to sully the USAF with unsubstantiated claims from other organizations. We put a stop to it as soon as we learned of it.
The fact that the CAP has elected to ignore this serious issue tells us that their are either complete incompetants, do not have a very well developed sense of honor, or that this is common practice.
Meanwhile, I also do not give a flip what consenting adults do privately. None of my business. And, it has nothing whatever to do with whatever fraud she has committed. Well, it might, depending, but not from this quarter.
It appears that the CAP needs to clean house.
April 11th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Amen, OWB.
And TX-CAP: This isn’t a freakin’ game and it’s not a criminal court so shove that proof positive requirement + admission requirement of yours somewhere where they won’t hurt somebody. There is more than sufficient evidence for a reasonable person to conclude that this uniformed chicklet is full of crap. What would you say if you were accused of making false claims? I’ll tell you what you’d do. You would scream bloody murder all over the place, especially with your fellow Capsters–or whatever they’re called. Perhaps she has a Messiah complex of some sort and is willing to be falsely accused w/o a peep, is that it? She’s a hero afterall! Give it up–especially that objective facade. And stop being fearful of calling a worm a worm.
April 11th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
I just notified the station that they have been had by a fraud!
April 11th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
She is still passing herself off as a PH recipient and as a disabled vet… I’d like to know whether she is getting VA benefits based on her lies.
April 11th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
@200 Good deal. I have done the same.
April 11th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
@197 In addition to her extra curricular activities with leather, she has an interesting attraction to all things bacon….no wonder she’s a chubber…
April 11th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
TX_CAP: You and I are on more or less the same page. If TAH and everybody else is wrong, then a copy of your DD-214 will set you free, right?
And if you’re a veteran, even if you lost your DD-214 in a fire/theft/wanton llama attack, you can go online and request one, and I _think_ they will even fax it to you if you’re the veteran doing the requesting. You can have a DD-214 in your hot little hands in something less than a day.
BTW, go back and look at #121 above. MANY FOIA requests were submitted on this individual before Mary & Jonn were able to run down the appropriate records. It is _extremely_ hard to “prove a negative” so to speak.
April 11th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
Tx_CAP @193: The BDSM comment was made because she posted a picture of her on a BDSM site in a CAP polo! Clear as day. I saw it.
And yes, I love porn!
April 11th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
So what you’re telling me is that this chick is Gunny Driveway’s hogtied girlfriend?
(shudder)
Must…get…mind bleach…
April 11th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
Here’s her latest facebook profile. She’s still posting on the VA CAP’s facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/MTesla0822
April 11th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
So I posted on the Virginia Wing Aerospace Education’s facebook page about her being a fraud and a liar. Turns out ole Michelle is an admin on their page!!
https://www.facebook.com/VAWGAE
And this guy James Quinn replied to my post (in a PM) about her being a fraud:
James Quinn
Sam: I conducted the CAP investigation into Maj Michelle Anderson Tesla. I am not permitted to disclose the details to you, but there is nothing that forbids me from telling you that you have no clue what you’re talking about.
Please stop spreading rumors and malicious lies, unless you have evidence that you would like to present that would be useful.
Regards,
James Quinn, Maj., CAP
Vice-Commander, Virginia Wing
Fire for effect.
April 11th, 2013 at 7:14 pm
And then he promptly banned me from their page.
Nice.
April 11th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
# 198 Well said OWB…Awesome and Im USAF too. CAP allowing her in tells us how much they actually do background checks.
And that new news clip of her is a load of sh*t….10 year veteran, did she get back in all of a sudden?
April 11th, 2013 at 7:26 pm
Send her to Doug Collett, he’ll stalk the shit out of her until she stops..
April 11th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Now, she’s telling everyone that she was across the street from the Hasan shooting at Fort Hood and she caught the PTSD.
April 11th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
Wait a sec–wasn’t she in VA at the time? That’s a pretty big-assed street there.
April 11th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Wow! So many posts on this one! Not sure if anyone else said this, but don’t you think she’d look like Ron Jeremy if you photoshopped a mustache on her?
April 11th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
I’d be scared of her sitting on me.
April 11th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Wat a stupid Bitch. I hate people who pretend to be in the military. makes me sick to know how sadistic people are for some notification. if you want that kind of respect, actually join or stay in it an get to that high ranked position. fat cow
April 11th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
Getting on the news then having the VA CAP take up for her? She has stepped up her game. Time to go full blast on her ass. Visit the news listed article above ( in post 197) and give her some well deserved attention in the comments section.
April 11th, 2013 at 9:19 pm
Aw shit…I was a CAP cadet and earned the Mitchell Award. It was something I was proud of and I was even prouder when, after I returned from Iraq, I was able to attend a CAP function in my service uniform and present the Mitchell Award to my daughter. This story makes me sick and it pisses me off that people in VA wing would defend this “person”. CAP definitely needs to get their house in order especially since they are allowed to wear Air Force uniforms (slightly modified, but to the untrained eye it looks the same). I well remember some Senior Members who looked like a bag of ass in their uniforms and it made the Air Force give serious consideration to rescinding that uniform privilege. Between Stolen Valor and just looking horrible in that uniform, its enough to make me just want to jump out the window!
April 11th, 2013 at 10:49 pm
From what I can tell, Tesla is a proven fraud that is well documented. Shame on you, James Quinn and the rest that are protecting her. GFY! Shame on the Virginia group for doing nothing about her. I agree with OWB, Clean House. If this was the Army, we would “take care” of her right away. These are bad mentors for our youth of today. I would never want my kids exposed to these frauds & those who embrace it.
April 11th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
Loser.
People will not do anything because she is a woman and has the “PTSD”.
Just an observation.
PC world and all….
Sad.
April 11th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
Sad for the CAP. It was once a good program. They represent fraud, waste & abuse by allowing her and others to remain.
April 11th, 2013 at 11:08 pm
I will be contacting the Virginia Senators and Congressmen about her. We, the tax payers should not be funding this group. James Quinn & his posse are representing someone of fraud. I suggest that everyone on here do the same. We cannot allow anyone to get away with stolen valor that has been proven.
April 11th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
Just sent an email to the reporter who did the latest story, maybe you can to:
schinn@wusa9.com
April 12th, 2013 at 12:58 am
Here’s the latest communique from Mr. James Quinn:
“James Quinn
First of all, my name is not “Jim”, it’s James.
Second, I have no interest in either defending Ms. Tesla or in attacking her. I am an investigator. I am charged with finding out the truth. If you have evidence–either way, I am interested in hearing it. And–again, either way–I will present all of the evidence to my CAP and USAF superiors.
But so far, all I have seen is allegations. And that’s not good enough.
I too have seen a variety of allegations on a variety of so-called “veterans” web sites. But in spite of extensive investigations, I haven’t seen anything that meets the standards of proof that I am required to use. And if you can’t meet those standards, you may well be in violation yourself.
You are, of course, free to post anything you like. It’s a free country and I believe in the first amendment. But you are NOT free to post anything on a VAWG web site that I control. And you are NOT free to cross the line into slander or libel–because I have legal obligations that I am required to meet, both to Ms Tesla and to you. And I will obey the law, even if either one of you do not.
If I find that either you OR Ms. Tesla have broken any laws, or, in certain cases, the Uniform Code of Military Justice, then I have a duty to ensure that the proper authorities are notified. I am NOT a law enforcement officer, but I do have certain responsibilities if I become aware of a violation.
So if you want to make any credible, verifiable charges against Ms Tesla, I’m willing to talk–and if they are founded, I will take all appropriate legal actions or CAP disciplinary actions, as appropriate. But if you’re only willing to make unfounded accusations, I’m going to do my best to ensure that you are the one who faces discipline.”
I got a great laugh with his threats at discipline! LOL!
Sounds like he’s pretty invested in her, since he’s made her an admin of the VA Wing’s facebook page.
Let it rain.
April 12th, 2013 at 1:05 am
@214SnowSoldierMedic
I don’t know but it’s worth a shot!
April 12th, 2013 at 2:30 am
Wow, sounds like James Quinn is the CAP’s very own version of Dwight Schrute. If he’s really an investigator of any kind, he must suck at it, because either a FOIA for her records (just like Jonn did) or her signature on a SF 180 would put the entire matter to rest once and for all. He doesn’t seem to understand that it would be really easy to call us all a bunch of idiots and prove us wrong, or more likely he doesn’t want to have to acknowledge the real truth of the matter and just hide behind the whole PC/White Knight thing.
April 12th, 2013 at 3:18 am
@ 177
I am not a Vet, I’ll tell ya honestly that I never had the balls to serve. I am however a Vet lover and am not above taking out my earrings and putting my hair up to defend a Vet’s honer. I can pull hair and scratch eyeballs out with the best of ‘em.
So sad now to see that she is not in Florida as I thought. This is a disturbed person that unfortunately has a following of people that refuse to see the facts. (talking to you James) As long as she has even one person supporting her she will continue to lie and hide from the truth. So now along with her being guilty of Stolen Valor the ones supporting her and covering for her are guilty of Harboring Stolen Valor.
Every time someone excuses or helps cover Stolen Valor a puppy gets kicked and a kitten cries. Why do you hate puppies kittens and America?
April 12th, 2013 at 3:26 am
Powerpoint Ranger Says:
April 12th, 2013 at 2:30 am
Wow, sounds like James Quinn is the CAP’s very own version of Dwight Schrute. If he’s really an investigator of any kind, he must suck at it, because either a FOIA for her records (just like Jonn did) or her signature on a SF 180 would put the entire matter to rest once and for all. He doesn’t seem to understand that it would be really easy to call us all a bunch of idiots and prove us wrong, or more likely he doesn’t want to have to acknowledge the real truth of the matter and just hide behind the whole PC/White Knight thing.
He sure is! He’s probably banging her, that’s why he’s defending her.
April 12th, 2013 at 4:43 am
Saw where she had a new twitter account. @Cleveland0822. There was a post from back in December where she claimed to be at Hood. Not specifically but it’s no stretch to get to that assumption.
Also on a couple of her profiles she lists her school as Liberty University. I go to the same school and I know first hand they have a great Military Affairs office and benefits to the Military. Now she very well could be using her GI Bill benefits from when she was in but it is also possible she is trying to cash in there as well for scholarships and such. And aside from that I’m pretty sure they aren’t going to look too favorably on some of her other extracurriculars either.
April 12th, 2013 at 4:48 am
The CAP is not under under the Uniform Military Code of Justice. They are an Auxiliary of the USAF.
Quinn has no place as an Investigator and as a Vice Commander. Why is James Quinn, the Vice Commander of the Virginia Group investigating her? Doesn’t CAP have JAG’s or IG’s at a higher level? It is a serious conflict of interest. They are on the same staff. The evidence is clearly in view. The guy is either stupid, tied to her bed, getting a little on the side, hiding something, or all of the above.
We, Army guys will show Mr. Quinn some much “deserved” discipline since he has no respect for wounded warriors.
April 12th, 2013 at 6:31 am
Turns out that James Quinn has a close friendship with Tesla. A serious conflict of interest.
https://www.facebook.com/jquinnjr
@thebronze. I agree. He’s probably banging her, that’s why he’s defending her.
April 12th, 2013 at 7:09 am
No doubt. He is way too involved in trying to get into her pants to perform an objective investigation. May need to report him, as well.
April 12th, 2013 at 7:44 am
I struggle to believe that one person can lie so much about something so important to so many. To rob their sacrafices and make it her own, for attention and sympathy. Truly a disgrace.
At the end of the day, I don’t see why she or one of her friends (this Quinn guy) won’t simply provide proof. Anyone worth their salt would understand peoples’ concerns and simply provide proof. “Yes, there’s been a misunderstanding, I changed my name for personal reasons, but you can clearly see here on my DD 214, that I have been awarded the Purple Heart.”
If I were in her shoes, that is what I would do. The longer this drags out, the harder she will fall and it will hurt not only her, but her son (think about her son), this C.A.P. organization, and even her close friends.
I did a quick search of all the names she has (Tesla, Anderson, Chell, Michelle, Lynn, etc., in all combinations) and there is no report of a female blackhawk pilot being shot down or crashing in Iraq other than Tammy Duckworth. My brother-in-law is a blackhawk pilot and has been to Iraq twice and Afghanistan once. He’s the same age as Tesla-Anderson, and has never heard of her, or of a female blackhawk pilot being shot down/crashing other than the one I already said.
I have so many friends that have suffered true TBIs, lost limbs, and will likely be on meds for most of their lives due to their experiences. You are robbing them of their honor by making false claims.
If your claims are true, then prove it. If they are not, come clean and walk away. It’s that easy!
Former Grunt, out!
April 12th, 2013 at 7:48 am
Clearly, we are barking up the wrong tree with Quinn. For whatever reason, he doesn’t seem to care about Stolen Valor or integrity issues. He has no military experience, as far as I can tell. If he was in service, he doesn’t list it in his prior employment or background summary. Thus, we are dealing with a civilian whose only connection to things military seems to be through government contracts and CAP. At the national CAP level, I believe leadership would care about Anderson, as would certain legislators in Virginia. And that’s where, if at all, her dubious claims are most likely to raise concern and an actual inquiry. Quinn’s investigative prowess in matters such as this seems, at best, lacking. His resume is on line but I see no reason to link to it.
April 12th, 2013 at 9:26 am
Ms. Anderson’s issues are known at Maxwell AFB, you can be assured of that.
BTW, following the events in November, the Virginia state commander abruptly tendered his resignation. It is my understanding that it was _not_ related to Ms. Anderson, but you know how there are “straws” and “camel’s backs,” so you never know if that was “yet another thing” that the regional commander may have taken issue with.
That said, there is now a new state commander for Virginia, and there are probably 100 more pressing issues than this one that pertain to the active membership, operational missions, safety, etc. Thats not to say they don’t care, but this very well could be a distractor that the current guy inherited and did not know it was not handled.
It is not out of the realm of possibility that she was allowed to resign in lieu of removal of her membership (path of least resistance) by the previous commander, expecting that her membership would run out in February and she’d just “go away.” And maybe she hasn’t.
Who knows.
I’d lay off the guy in VA. He’s honestly not the problem here. She is.
April 12th, 2013 at 9:55 am
Lay off the reporter who recently did the story about the Flag … Jonn and I are in direct contact with her on this issue.
We will help her out of this mess.
April 12th, 2013 at 10:13 am
Open Blog Note to:
James Quinn, Maj., CAP
Vice-Commander, Virginia Wing
I’ll call you Jimmy Boy. So by what authority do you conduct investigations?
Simple question … give me an answer.
Your so called investigation can be obtained quite simply by a FOIA request. The CAP is an inter-agency program of the the USAF. You are not the authority (deciding factor) and I also might venture to say that you are part of the problem with the subject based on you amature responses noted above.
So … tell Jimmy Boy what do you really know this subject.
I will tell you … we know more than you do.
One other question Jimmy Boy, can you tell us about your military experience and background?
One final thing: Know your audience and seek to understand before being understood!
MCPO USN (Ret.)
April 12th, 2013 at 11:06 am
@This Guy, #235.
Quinn is part of the problem. He lied. He is protecting her. He has no integrity. Maxwell may know about her (for the past 6 months & counting), but why haven’t they done anything by now?
Do they have any honor for those who rightfully earned the Purple Heart? Obviously not, since it is a mostly civilian organization.
April 12th, 2013 at 11:09 am
Looks to me like the CAP is going the way of the KWVA.
April 12th, 2013 at 11:45 am
Jimmy Quinn is another lawyer who thinks some legalese will frighten the “rabid” vets attacking his firend Tesla…
Jim you should learn quickly that nobody here is nervous about lawyers, after all the Supreme Court has given us the license to expose liars. They were quite clear in their Stolen Valor case (Alvarez) that the remedy for false speech is speech that is true….
Have your little girlfriend expose the lies on this site by telling the truth, have her display the records proving her claims. If this site is stealing her valor with false hoods the remedy is the truth. Of course if she can’t produce that paperwork, well you have been defending someone you probably shouldn’t be Jim, but you probably already know that….you seem like a sharp guy you should understand there are some pretty sharp guys here as well, and so far Tesla has been following the poser playbook as if she had written it from cover to cover…
We suspect we won’t be hearing too much from you or Tesla Jim. After all if she was telling the truth some paperwork would have squelched all comments and garnered an apology.
April 12th, 2013 at 12:34 pm
Quinn is a loose turd. And so is the fat female poser.
Turds in the same public toliet if you will…
Figured I would chime in.
Back to papers.
Out.
April 12th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Skyped an interview with Ms. Chinn for the 10 o’clock news on WUSA9 tonight.
April 12th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
The truth is an affirmative defense in cases like this.
You’re accused of not being X.
You claim “No, no, I’m really X.”
Without a shred of documentary evidence, the claim “I’m really X” doesn’t stand up to the light of day.
TAH here has produced the FOIA-developed documentation that says “Nope, you’re not X.”
There is NOT ONE SHRED of legitimate additional information produced by Ms. Anderson that says she is what she claims to be, has what she claims to have, or has been where she claims to have been. If there is, redact the PII and post it.
You would think there would be a cacophony of former “Army Buddies” clamoring to “right the wrong” and tell all of us that we’re way off base. An OCS class mate. A flight school buddy. An instructor pilot from Mother Rucker. A crewchief who flew with her in Iraq.
What is there instead? Crickets.
A couple CAP folks have said so far “Nope, you’re off base.”
I would say to Major Quinn: “Sir, if Ms. Anderson has produced documentary evidence that refutes the FOIA document shown here, why is it not presented? What documentation have you seen? Was it a Purple Heart certificate? The presentation case that a Purple Heart came in? Or did you see a legitimate DD-214? Do you know what a legitimate DD-214 actually looks like and would you know if it has been doctored?”
Because frankly, I’m far more inclined to believe the FOIA information that came straight from the National Archives than anything else. If other information exists and can be developed to show that Ms. Anderson’s claims are true, then please, help us out and show us that. I’ll stand right at the head of the line to apologize very publicly.
But I’m about 99.5% sure that I’ll never have to do that.
As one of the original authors of the evidence against Ms. Anderson (you’ve probably seen the PDF file I created, since it likely kicked off the investigation you did), including the FOIA-developed information, I will tell you that I have yet to see a single thing (since October or November of last year) that refutes a single claim Ms. Anderson has made over and over on Twitter, Facebook, etc. Nothing. Not a set of orders, an LES that says O-3 with flight pay and overseas pay, a link to a news article about the crash in Iraq that supposedly resulted in the PH and TBI. NOTHING.
And now she’s on TV claiming the same thing.
I’m a little disappointed that CAP can’t seem to come up with a more coherent response than “You don’t know what you’re talking about.” Because, Major Quinn, unbeknownst to you, I _do_ know what _I_ am talking about. I did the research.
1) Nobody saw a PH or aviator wings in Texas Wing CAP when she lived there before moving to VA.
2) She showed up in VA immediately after living in Texas with a PH, aviator wings, and an interesting narrative. One that fits no timeline of her CAP service that anybody can seem to figure out. You don’t graduate from college, go to OCS, go to flight school, learn how to fly Blackhawks, get PCS’d someplace and eventually make it all the way to Captain without there being a substantial time period where nobody has seen you, heard from you, etc. We’re talking 18-ish months for OCS, Primary and UH-60 training, and you’re not a Captain until you’ve had about three years in.
There isn’t a time period of three years in her historical narrative where she was in Germany flying UH-60s after flight school and then in Iraq to get shot down. Doesn’t even exist.
And I doubt that unless she had access to a Doctor Who-style Tardis, she was able to fit three years of service as an officer in during a PCS move with her husband from Fort Hood to VA. Its a long drive from Texas to Virginia, but not _that_ long.
3) If you’re a commissioned officer in the US Army, you have some documentation besides a DD-214. LES statements that say O-1, O-2, O-3, flight orders, incidental photos, your commissioning certificate, your flight school certificate, your FAA pilot’s license (I don’t know anybody who graduates from Rucker who doesn’t get that part knocked out while they can), a folder of orders PCSing you to OCS, Rucker, awarding you various badges, ribbons and other awards, your orders placing you on flight status, flight physicals, other things out of your IFRF (which now is substantially online), etc.
4) CAP is looking like a bunch of knuckleheads in this whole thing if your “investigation” was unable to turn up the same information that a bunch of unconnected folks were able to find over the course of a few weeks. I’m not even IN CAP (or the Army any more) and was able to connect enough dots to confirm that her story is so much whole cloth.
5) I went thru the Army Safety Center’s Class A accident database, and had someone from Rucker do the same thing independently, and neither can correlate a single “UH-60 shoot down incident” in Iraq that would match up to the approximate timeframe that we’ve got here that corresponds to the injuries and such. None.
6) And then there are all the stupid claims about “flying for the presidential service” (when she was clearly on an orientation flight with cadets on a USAF jet). Really? Look, I’ve been on a KC-135, didn’t make me a gas-passer. I even have a photo of me in the boom pod, but it didn’t qualify me to say “I’m a aerial refueler”.
I even know what colour the boathouse is at Fort Rucker, so to speak. I’m reasonably certain she does not.
April 12th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Captain–+1 Internets to you for the Ronin reference.
And I’m curious to see how long it’ll take before the “Major” comes here to try to defend that steaming pile he laid down.
April 12th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
VOV. Lawyer wannabe, perhaps, but he’s no lawyer.
April 12th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
Thanks. I was Army Aviation, but actually never went to Rucker except while passing thru Alabama enroute from Florida one year. Even I did not know what colour the boathouse is until I got the straight dope. I can give you all kinds of other info from other Army Aviation posts and training sites, but I did not go to flight school, so I my Rucker info is limited>
The fact remains: governmental records are fairly accurate. They can be refuted, certainly, by other evidence (I had a DFAS foul-up that had to be corrected years after I ETS’d, and a set of orders that I had that DFAS never got fixed the issue in literally a half day, for example). But such evidence is not forthcoming.
April 12th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Thanks. I was Army Aviation, but actually never went to Rucker except while passing thru Alabama enroute from Florida one year. Even I did not know what colour the boathouse is until I got the straight dope. I can give you all kinds of other info from other Army Aviation posts and training sites, but I did not go to flight school, so my Rucker info is limited>
The fact remains: governmental records are fairly accurate. They can be refuted, certainly, by other evidence (I had a DFAS foul-up that had to be corrected years after I ETS’d, and a set of orders that I had that DFAS never got fixed the issue in literally a half day, for example). But such evidence is not forthcoming.
April 12th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
(Sorry for the double post. I was correcting a grammatical error.. )
April 12th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
CAP is the Civil Air Patrol, right? Started during World War II as a means of involving the civilian population in identifying flyovers by enemy aircraft. Hitler’s propaganda machine had animated B&W movies demonstrating how easy it would be to intimidate the American population with that. It was supposed to be that and nothing else. No combat duty, no warfare training, just simply ID aircraft, blimps/dirigibles, and other possible dangers.
Now it’s been turned into a circus by one idiot who thinks she’s more important than she is and tries to get everyone else to believe her.
What a waste of human flesh and government spending.
April 12th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
CAPT Poseur Buster … “colour the boathouse”
You spell like a limey or frog … what up with dat?
BREAK:
Jonn … thanks for helping out. She sounded concerned and PISSED yesterday!
April 12th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
MCPO: Nah, I am not a Limey. But since Hereford (the original reference to the “colour of the boathouse” faker-check from Ronin) is in England, I occasionally spell things the English way. Almost without realising it.
(OK, honest, I’ll stop!!)
April 12th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Regarding the Ron Jeremy similarity:
http://tinypic.com/r/200pb7n/6
April 12th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
I’m afraid that image will haunt us all over again when the tourney starts up…
April 12th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
In case y’all missed it, looks like Jonn skyped an interview. F’n sweet. Exposed!!!
April 12th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
@252. That’s uncanny!
April 12th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
lol @ 252… Perfect.
April 12th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
ROG that CAPT!
I did not get the literary reference due to my caveman like sensibilities and tendancies!
April 12th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
Gotta say I’m jealous… Retiring as an E7 after twenty years spanning Vietnam to Desert Storm my ribbon rack is downright sparse compared with hers…
I only ended up with ONE AFCM and that was for a bunch of stuff that took longer at one assignment than she had time in service…
Some people!!!
April 12th, 2013 at 5:58 pm
As someone who has personally been screwed out of a Purple Heart and struggles with TBI, this shit really fucking grinds my gears.
April 12th, 2013 at 5:59 pm
Her FB cover photo is of vegetarian eggs. Who does she think she’s kidding?
April 12th, 2013 at 6:14 pm
She just made the evening news! She got the fame she wanted. And, yeah, for the doubters who have their faces buried in her ample lard breasts, The news chick called the Pentagon and confirmed all of the information that we had posted.
April 12th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
Man….I did 8 years in the Marine Corps, from 1974-1982, and I only rated 4 or 5 ribbons. She has 6 ROWS and in only 2 years. Difference is, of course, that I EARNED MINE!!!
April 12th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
Got a link for us mere mortals who don’t live in the DC area, Jonn?
April 12th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Turdette.
April 12th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
I’m looking for it. But, I’m thinking that the full story with my interview is going to be on at 10, so it might not be until tomorrow.
April 12th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Yeah, but it’s been fun reading about stink bugs invading BMI, the great chimney sweep scam, etc while waiting for them to post this story!
April 12th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
Gaaaaaaaaaaaaad damit. You said 10! I even visited the station’s website earlier. Damit.
April 12th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
Uh-oh. It was YOUR interview at 10 but the news head was on already. I’m slow but I do get there.
April 12th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
That’s awesome, Jonn. Good job.
April 12th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
Glad I found that new story now. If she would have just remained in the shadows, none of this would have happened. Unfortunately for her and other posers, they just can’t help but look for attention.
April 12th, 2013 at 7:10 pm
Lol- that story is now gone off the site. This is great.
April 12th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
This is kind of like the old 60 Minutes where a viewer would say, “Are they all stupid? Don’t they recognize Mike Wallace? Idiots. They’ve just screwed themselves.”
Don’t any of these idiots know that if Don Shipley is calling or Jonn Lilyea does a post featuring them that it’s over–that should just fess up and blow away?
April 12th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
Guess not. Look for more info on that Albert Bustamante fellow soon, as well. There is a reporter hot on his trail currently and will have a story out in the next couple of weeks. They just don’t realize that they don’t make it on the “Poser rolls” for nothing.
April 12th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
They’ve known each other for a while. (Quinn/Tesla)
http://www.capva108.org/index.php/news/15-o-flights
April 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
May want to warn FEMA…
http://community.fema.gov/connect.ti/readynpm/viewdatastore?adv=S&dsid=112036&pfv=Y&showAllColumns=N&shownum=10&sortCol1=Col_6&sortCol2=Col_2&sortDir1=desc&sortDir2=asc&startRow=1
April 12th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
It looks as though she has been checking out the latest news on herself here. Just checked her facebook page and she has changed her profile pic to the merge of her and Ron Jeremy that was listed earlier today. Once the article on WUSA9 is posted tonight I am going to be packaging up not only this link but that one as well and sending it off to the Military Affairs Office at Liberty. Just know that because of privacy issues we won’t see any results of their check on her application and status, but at least I will have the peace of mind knowing that they are well informed. Like I said before, I don’t even know if she is trying to exploit the school but I want them to at least have the information to look back and see if there is anything off in her paperwork for them.
April 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
some interesting reading here:
http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=16176.150;wap2
April 12th, 2013 at 7:59 pm
214 AVN, ABOVE THE BEST! Part of 12th AVN BDE, best Army Brigade out there…..and I can say so, I was part of them!!!
Looks like they banned her from CapTalk lol
http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=13852.0
April 12th, 2013 at 7:59 pm
@265, @267 – How about posting that station website, YouTube reference, if the video shows up there, so that we Left Coasters can share in the joy.
April 12th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
Office of Strategic Planning???
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/michelle-anderson-tesla/50/8a7/7ba
April 12th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
@279- Here is the station website. No posts about her yet boss
April 12th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
@281 – ??? No website?
April 12th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
Apparently she has a brother who is a Capt in the USMC???
http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/Outline_of_December_Events_updated__64A15A97DDA51.pdf
April 12th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Lol… My bad. Website here: http://www.wusa9.com/default.aspx
April 12th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
@276. Send James Quinn the bill. You are doing the job he said was his.
April 12th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
“Hi, I’m Michelle Anderson-Tesla from Winchester Composite Squadron in Virginia Wing. I’ve been in Civil Air Patrol since 1995 and was a cadet, made it to my Eaker, missed my Spaatz by one question on Aerospace by the third try. I’m now a Major on the dark side and a Squadron Leadership Officer. I’ve held every position from Squadron Commander to Group to Wing staff and have worked on National projects. I *totally* enjoy being a member of Civil Air Patrol and wouldn’t change it for the world.”
April 12th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
I cannot believe she sullied Ron Jeremy.
Talk about idols…
The man. The myth. The legend. The length.
Loose stool she is.
Turd.
April 12th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
It takes a special kind of asshole to apply for a position based on fake military service … but an even more special kind of asshole to do so for a volunteer position she could have easily gotten without any prior aerospace knowledge whatsoever.
CAP has VERY few paid jobs, the majority of which are located at its national HQ in Alabama. I don’t know if any of the Wing jobs are paid – I do know that the Group and Wing officers I’ve met here in NY are all volunteers.
To go into CAP’s aerospace education specialty track, you don’t have to have any prior experience with aerospace education at all – all you need is to select that specialty track and get the materials CAP provides for you to learn and teach from. Unlike some specialty tracks – like Health Services Officer or CISM which require outside training and certification. So why the hell would you even lie about your “service” to do this?
As for the people commenting on her Air Force uniform … she’s in Civil Air Patrol. CAP is the auxiliary of the US Air Force – CAP members are authorized to wear the Air Force Class A / Class B uniform if they meet Air Force height/weight standards. The rank is CAP specific, as are the name tag, and some of the ribbons. CAP also wears Air Force PT uniform and flight suits. But the regular duty uniforms is (at this time) still BDUs with CAP insignia.
Just my two cents as a CAP volunteer.
Chris
April 12th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
@284 – Thanks… I see the “tattered flag” story, featuring our heroine, has been taken down, but that’s all so far. Thanks again…..
April 12th, 2013 at 8:53 pm
Not a problem. Jonn thinks a story about her will be up tomorrow and she is making the evening news tonight. On her FB page she is running damage control, but I don’t think she knows there is a story coming about her. Should be fun lol
April 12th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
GCAGoddess 6 February 18, 2011
@Oprah Becoming a female military Air Traffic Controller for our U.S. Army. #greatestaccomplishment
April 12th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
#283: Ed, I’m about 99% sure that Capt Edge, who she claimed was her “brother” during the Wreaths Across America ceremony at Arlington, was yet another “made up from whole cloth” kind of thing. She grew up in Ohio. He was from Virginia Beach.
She has claimed many people are her relatives on FB and other places. VA State Delegate Rich Anderson (a retired USAF officer and also a former National Commander of Civil Air Patrol) had to deal with her randomly calling him “Uncle Rich” at CAP functions around Virginia for some time, apparently, when there is actually no relation (although I bet it started as kind of a joke).
April 12th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
@288. Thanks for the info, Chris. CAP is something most of us here have heard of but few know the workings of.
April 12th, 2013 at 9:31 pm
@299- interesting. I thought she grew up in Kileen TX area or something. Or was she just stationed there?
April 12th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
She has become a transgender on her Facebook Profile. It never ends with this poser. No accountability in the CAP. They don’t deserve to be part of the USAF.
https://www.facebook.com/MTesla0822
April 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
Lol. She actually used a picture we posted on here earlier, which means she has been reading this.
April 12th, 2013 at 9:50 pm
The Virginia Wing Commander is a Cop. Does he not realize that he has a fraud on his staff or is she blowing him to? This program disgusts me.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jim-covel/4/888/815?trk=pub-pbmap
April 12th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/254213/158/VA-Woman-Caught-Lying-About-Her-Military-Service
boom
April 12th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
From the article Comanche Doc linked in comment 298:
“WUSA9 talked by phone with George Wright, the Media Relations, Deputy Director at the Army Public Affairs.
Surae: Is she an Iraq war veteran?
Wright: I see nothing in her record to indicate that.
Surae: Is she a purple heart recipient?
Wright: There is nothing in her record to indicate that.
Surae: Has she served in the army for nearly 10 years.
Wright: She served from June 2000 to April 2002.
Surae: A year and 10 months?
Wright: That’s correct.
…
“Anderson says she has no military records to dispute what the Pentagon says.”
Crash and burn.
April 12th, 2013 at 10:18 pm
Good going on the TV story. There was no mention of the CAP in the TV Report. They are part of the problem for allowing fraud to fester. They have a youth program. Do you want your kids or other kids to be exposed to these frauds?
April 12th, 2013 at 10:21 pm
Whirlwind. Reap. Shit. Happens.
April 12th, 2013 at 10:24 pm
One more nail in her XXL coffin: http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/254213/158/VA-Woman-Caught-Lying-About-Her-Military-Service
April 12th, 2013 at 10:36 pm
Well, not bad but wish the report was even more in-depth.
April 12th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
@Ed: I would have liked to see the reporter contact CAP Public Affairs and ask them for a statement. Why did they refuse to conduct a proper IG investigation per CAP regs? Why is she still admin of an official Virginia CAP facebook account? Why did they ignore the issue when the DD-214′s were first sent to them and she was still in CAP?
April 12th, 2013 at 10:46 pm
Heh. Truth bat / head…some assembly required.
Or, my favorite phrase from awhile ago: “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.”
April 12th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
@304. Something tells me that the person (Quinn) who was in charge of investigating her may be more than just a friend…
April 12th, 2013 at 10:49 pm
COL Goode, COL Kelley, and SGM Gabbard were colleagues of mine at MNF-I Command Group at Camp Victory. All three were killed in action on 20 Jan 07 when the ring-route UH-60 they and others were riding in was shot down by an AQI AAA ambush south of Baquebah near the MND-North/MND-Baghdad divisional boundary; a total of 13 coalition personnel were killed on that chopper that day. They all earned the Purple Heart for their sacrifice. For this fat piece of shit to put on that PH ribbon on her uniform and pretend she is a wounded war hero is to me an obscenity beyond words and description. May this bitch enjoy and wallow in her new infamy…
April 12th, 2013 at 10:54 pm
#294 There are a lot of phonies outside the Killeen area who enjoy embellishing their careers. Must be something in the water. Knew 3 females who had problems telling the truth, all air force.
April 12th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
[...] the lies about her Purple Heart and her brain injury from a helicopter crash in Iraq. Of course, we’d already proven that was a lie. We contacted the reporter, Surae Chinn, at WUSA9 in DC and told her about how she had been duped. [...]
April 12th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
I guess its only a matter of time before she deletes her account and starts over somewhere else. Quinn guy will probably make a statement denouncing her or possibly defending her. She hasnt started scrubbing facebook yet.
April 12th, 2013 at 11:03 pm
Probably busy getting spanked…
April 12th, 2013 at 11:06 pm
@Ed: I would have liked to see the reporter contact CAP Public Affairs and ask them for a statement. Why did they refuse to conduct a proper IG investigation per CAP regs? Why is she still admin of an official Virginia CAP facebook account? Why did they ignore the issue when the DD-214?s were first sent to them and she was still in CAP?
I fully agree. How about a follow up to the TV story? The CAP will continue to protect this fraud if they are not held accountable. They have a youth program. The youth look up to these leaders (posers) in the Virginia Group.
April 12th, 2013 at 11:08 pm
@312: Again, I honestly believe Quinn has a thing for her. He is the one who was supposed to investigate but instead took her side on it. If anything, CAP should investigate both of them.
April 12th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
@Armyvet. I didnt read all the comments. But didnt she resign from the CAP? Or is she still around under volunteer status?
April 12th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
She resigned, I believe. Hard to tell, honestly. So many lies out there.
April 12th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
@313: Again, I honestly believe Quinn has a thing for her. He is the one who was supposed to investigate but instead took her side on it. If anything, CAP should investigate both of them.
According to a comrade in the CAP that I knew as a youth, Tesla is still in the CAP in good standing. She was never terminated, punished or resigned. She is currently an active member on the Virginia HQ Staff and a staff member of some Winchester Group. The Virginia Wing continues to protect and support her.
Kick them both out. Hell, kick them all out that protect her. They are bad examples to mentor to the youth.
April 12th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
If that is true than they have serious issues.
April 12th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
very interesting… or more to be “bemused” about! IF you know that there are many others ready and waiting to rat out a lie, WHY do a major news channel interview for a BIG city, with plenty of exposure, and say the lies that have already got you in trouble?? Must be sheer stupidity?
She also claimed to have been so wronged by a “ex” who was convicted of rape at Ft Hood. But, have spent the better part of an evening searching online for anything– any news story about that… with NO results. Thinking, “what are the odds” that an ARMY officer can be charged and convicted of raping a disabled person, and there is NO news on it. Is it possible to keep something like that totally under wraps? Then the guy later goes on to work in counseling, with a criminal record? But supposedly does not have to report it in the new state he moved to? So, just another aspect of lies this person has spouted with NO backing… Sad, sad specimen.
I may be dating myself.. but remember the sketch Jon Lovitz used to do on SNL? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkYNBwCEeH4
April 12th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
Is she single now or do we have a husband locked on? Those profiles on the spanking sites and BDSM sites are still active.
April 13th, 2013 at 12:02 am
#318 & 313: ex-husband is at Fort Lee, I believe. Army officer, medical corps or medical service corps. Admin type. Last name “Anderson” I think any abuse or rape claims fall into the “whole cloth” category.
#316: According to well-placed sources (not me, I’m not a member of CAP), she’s not on the membership rolls AT ALL. Her membership lapsed in Feb of 2013 and she does not currently show up as a member in the National HQ personnel system.
For what its worth, I do believe she’s been “flagged” if she attempts to rejoin. That requires additional scrutiny, at the very least, if a flagged member attempts to renew within the “grace period” or rejoin after the grace period..
April 13th, 2013 at 12:07 am
#320: How about a public statement from the CAP to end the rumors? Some say she is in, some say she is not and some say they have no idea. I have no idea. Why is the Virginia HQ still protecting her if she is supposedly not in the CAP? It makes no sense.
April 13th, 2013 at 12:09 am
Guessing from some of her post not too long ago and pictures. She is probably single
April 13th, 2013 at 1:21 am
Here’s the facebook conversation I had with Quinn last night. It sheds some light on things:
9:56pm
James Quinn
All I want is credible evidence. And I don’t believe that you have any. If you do, I’ll support you.
10:01pm
thebronze
Whatever. The evidence is there, apparently you choose not to look at it. Tesla (or whatever her real name is) has had plenty of opportunities to refute the evidence that’s there, she chose not to. So she’s obviously guilty. All she has to do is show her DD-214 to verify her service.
“This Ain’t Hell” has a copy of her stuff from the DOD, displayed for ALL to see. If you didn’t see it, you’re not a very good investigator.
10:02pm
James Quinn
Maybe I’m not a very good investigator–that’s true. I am curious about one other thing, though. From where I stand, it looks to me that you are engaged in some sort of vendetta against Ms. Tesla. Why? What did she ever do to you?
10:05pm
thebronze
I’m retired from the ACTUAL US Military and I HATE pieces of shit that claim status that they aren’t entitled to.
10:05pm
James Quinn
I agree with that.
Personally, I’m more of a wannabe. I signed up, but was injured before OTS, so I got a “get out of jail” card.
10:08pm
thebronze
She served TWO years in the Army (not Ten as she claimed) and was discharged because of her weight. She never deployed to a combat zone and she never received a Purple Heart. She doesn’t have PTSD. She was never a Commissioned Officer in the Army and she was never a UH-60 pilot.
How’s THAT for starters?
10:11pm
James Quinn
Well, actually, some of that is true–and some does not agree with evidence I’ve seen. The records I’ve seen suggest that she did serve two years enlisted, but was then released from her commitment to attend OCS. I don’t have any valid evidence about what may or may not have happened there either way.
I’m not sure about the UH-60 part either. I’ve seen some documentation that suggests that she actually has had aviation training, but it’s not at all verifiable. That goes back to the whole “standards of proof” thing.
10:12pm
James Quinn
She does, however, have PTSD. I’ve seen a verifiable diagnosis. In writing from the VA.
10:14pm
thebronze
No, actually ALL of that is true.
The documentation shows that she was awarded Army Aircrew Wings. Anyone can get those.
10:14pm
James Quinn
And, to be honest, that does complicate things a bit from my perspective. If she has a valid case of PTSD, some of the lies–if that’s what they are–become a whole other matter entirely.
10:16pm
thebronze
If she has PTSD, she didn’t get it from the Army.
She also claims she was across the street from the Ft. Shootings. More BS. She does nothing but lie. Obviously you fell for it.
10:17pm
James Quinn
I haven’t fallen for anything–pro or con. But I do require proof, for the purposes of my investigation. If I’m going to turn something over to my superiors, then it has to be something that they can validate. I’m sure you can understand that part.
10:17pm
thebronze
Obviously you haven’t bothered to read the website, in all your lengthy investigations…
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=32709&cpage=5#comment-819941
April 13th, 2013 at 1:24 am
10:18pm
thebronze
So obviously she showed you proof of all the things that she said?
10:19pm
James Quinn
Not all of the things, no. That’s why I still have considerable doubts.
But some of the things she says are well outside the documentation you have presented too. And I can’t do much without evidence.
10:20pm
thebronze
You’re a lost case. If she can’t prove something, that means it’s a LIE.
10:21pm
James Quinn
Ahem. You have heard of the presumption of innocence, haven’t you. It’s only the foundation of most of the U.S. system of justice….
10:22pm
thebronze
It’s VERY easy for someone that’s been in the military in the last ten plus years to get copies of ALL of their military records. If she can’t provide them to you SHE’S LYING.
Bro, I used to be a police officer, so don’t even start with that BS.
The burden of proof is on HER to prove that she’s done what she said she’s done.
10:23pm
James Quinn
Nope. Burden of proof is on the accuser. You may have been a police officer, but you’re obviously not a lawyer.
And for me, I can’t do much at all with what I’ve got.
Either way.
10:23pm
thebronze
She made the claim, it’s on HER to prove they’re true.
Like I said, you’re a lost case. I’m done discussing this with you. You obviously didn’t do a thorough investigation.
10:26pm
James Quinn
I don’t know.
She has voluntarily resigned from CAP–effective several months ago. I disagreed with her decision and I told her so…for many of the reasons you mentioned. If she had given me copies of her DD-214s, I would have happily gone to bat for her. As it is, from my perspective the matter is unproven.
10:27pm
thebronze
You’re still going to bat for her. You made her an admin on your page.
Good luck, you’ll need it.
10:31pm
James Quinn
You get your exercise leaping to conclusions. She–when she was still a CAP member–created the page. I don’t know if she’s still an admin, but if she is, I’ll make sure she’s removed in the next few days.
A piece of advice, though. As a former cop, you’ll understand that there are lines you’d best not cross. And you’re pretty darn close to them… But if you have evidence you want to present, you know where to find me.
10:32pm
thebronze
LOL!! Whatever Jim. I’m real scared now…
10:32pm
James Quinn
Bye, Billie-bob.
April 13th, 2013 at 2:15 am
If he hasn’t blocked you, ask him if he thinks The Pentagon has a vindictive grudge against her, and verified Jonn’s presentation of her DD-214
April 13th, 2013 at 2:25 am
Because of that grudge.
April 13th, 2013 at 3:17 am
He hasn’t replied to my mocking as of late…
April 13th, 2013 at 6:30 am
Very nice work, thebronze.
Quinn’s saying that he may not be a very good investigator is like saying the Titanic ran into a little trouble on its maiden voyage. If Anderson was an pretender, then Quinn was her enabler. His insistence on using the criminal standard of proof, burden of proof, and select criminal procedure requirements are ALL mistaken. Worse than all of that, however, is his self-delusion that his perspective and approach were proper and correct when they were anything but that. Reporter Chinn was tricked in walking over the cliff. Quinn willingly swan dived from it.
April 13th, 2013 at 8:00 am
I’m thinking Mr. Q got a “benefit” or two from Ms. Tesla. Perhaps he responded to one of her dominatrix posts. Chubby guy, chubby girl – PERFECT.
April 13th, 2013 at 8:44 am
“Second, I have no interest in either defending Ms. Tesla or in attacking her. I am an investigator. I am charged with finding out the truth. If you have evidence–either way, I am interested in hearing it. And–again, either way–I will present all of the evidence to my CAP and USAF superiors.”
Perhaps you should check in with the Pentagon since you are affiliated. That’s usually a great starting point for a military investigator who is trying to discover if a liar has managed to become involed in the investigator’s CAP program….WUSA9 was able to get in touch with someone at the Pentagon in less than 24 hours and they’re not even in the military. I suspect with all your connections you could get in touch with the Pentagon in minutes Mr. Investigator.
What say you now James? Still think there is nothing of value in your investigation? How about you start with the framed Purple Heart certificate in her apartment that made the news, how about her claims of ten years of service when less than 2 are on record.
We will be anxiously awaiting the results of your “investigation” James….those results will tell us all about you as well as Ms. Tesla.
April 13th, 2013 at 8:52 am
He probably doesn’t really want to explain what he means by the claim that he is an “investigator!” Using the standard that he insists should be used on the CAP pet whale, it is not his responsibility to prove that he is what he claims but ours to prove that he is not.
Yeah, like that is how it works out here in the real world.
April 13th, 2013 at 9:39 am
#324: James Quinn, do the right thing and join your friend with a resignation. You are not capable of leading anyone, nor do you have any respect for wounded vets. Your actions have brought dishonor to the CAP, the military and the Vets.
April 13th, 2013 at 10:07 am
I’m guessing James Quinn has a poor grasp of how a military investigation is conducted. Here’s an extract from AR 15-6, the Army Reg which governs investigations by individual IOs and/or Boards of Officers. I assume the CAP as an analogous regulation. I have added emphasis where I thought it was apropos.
“3–7. Rules of evidence and proof of facts
a. General. Proceedings under this regulation are administrative, not judicial. Therefore, an investigating officer or board of officers is not bound by the rules of evidence for trials by courts–martial or for court proceedings generally. Accordingly, subject only to the provisions of c below, anything that in the minds of reasonable persons is relevant and material to an issue may be accepted as evidence. For example, medical records, counseling statements, police reports, and other records may be considered regardless of whether the preparer of the record is available to give a statement or testify in person. All evidence will be given such weight as circumstances warrant. (See para 3–5 as to who decides whether to accept evidence.)”
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r15_6.pdf
Bottom line, Quinn: an investigation ain’t a courts-martial, and the “beyond reasonable doubt” standard is NOT appropriate. As a single individual acting as an IO, you (1) gather evidence, (2) evaluate the evidence, (3) notify the respondent (if any), (4) give that respondent (if any) a chance to respond, (5) consider that response (if any) – then (6) make your conclusion as to what happened and (7) advise the appointing authority of that conclusion and your rationale for arriving at that conclusion.
Lack of a plausible response by the respondent is something that an IO indeed considers in arriving at his/her conclusion. An IO who ignores evidence of any type is negligent and is not doing their job.
April 13th, 2013 at 10:26 pm
Maybe Quinn is her lover… or her “dom”… maybe?
April 13th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
One change to my post # 195:
“If I was the last male human on earth (who loved all things BDSM and fat) and she (the verified poser) was the last female human on earth …
I would rather drag my balls (THAT ARE ON FIRE BECAUSE THEY WERE SUBMERGED IN MOGAS FOR A WEEKEND AND IGNITED BY WAY OF A VINTAGE ZIPPO FROM WWII) across 5 miles of broken glass in the opposite direction to stay clear of her.”
Any questions?
Thanks for reading my update to previous post!
April 13th, 2013 at 11:01 pm
Another open blog bite to Jimmy Boy James “Very Small Penis” Quinn
You say to The Bronze: “A piece of advice, though. As a former cop, you’ll understand that there are lines you’d best not cross. And you’re pretty darn close to them… But if you have evidence you want to present, you know where to find me.”
I say: YOU ARE A PUNK.
I am a former FED LEO … who still works in the business. You and your type make me and my type sick. You would not last a NY minute in a NYC Bar and you most certainly are not a member of the NYS BAR.
Therefore, KMRIA!
One other thing, your WARNING above (or threat in some jurisdictions) was amature at best.
April 13th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
all,
my name is michelle tesla. this has nothing to do with cap or james. back off of them. this is my problem. i lied. deal with me. I am da liar they don’t know anything. it is time to take my fat ass to bed I will talk to you tomorrow. nite.
April 14th, 2013 at 12:03 am
@ 337 … I do not believe you.
April 14th, 2013 at 12:31 am
@337 yeah, that’s the ticket
April 14th, 2013 at 1:07 am
@337 – Yeah, you do that, and when you roll over, tell Jimmy Jim James Jimbo, the Fact checker, the Truth Seeker, that he wouldn’t know the Truth if it walked up and hit him in the mouth… Remember, “There is no cure for stupid. Stupid is forever”. Applies to both you morons.
Jerks
April 14th, 2013 at 2:06 am
I’m going to assume that’s not the real fat ass Tesla.
April 14th, 2013 at 4:36 am
FAT = Fat Ass Tesla
I like it.
April 14th, 2013 at 7:21 am
For what it’s worth: the comment from the individual posting as “michelle tesla” above originated from the same IP that was used by the individual commenting as “ChosenOne” above (along with one anonymous comment). The IP is located in an area consistent with this possibly being Tesla.
April 14th, 2013 at 9:16 am
I feel so bad for her kid.
She claims he has autism. I’ve seen several videos of him (her online footprint is quite large), and as a physician, I think I would disagree. Shame on her for wanting to slap a label on her kid to compensate for her terrible parenting. He will be lucky if he’s not permanently screwed up from his pathological mother.
April 15th, 2013 at 1:47 am
Let me say a few things here.
As stated earlier, I was a CAP member from the VA Wing. While I’m now inactive, CAP is something that I was proud of and still regard highly. While I do not consider VAWG’s silence on this as being wholly appealing, I will still defend the organization’s reputation, for all that it has done, still does, and will hopefully do in the future. A person such as Tesla should by no means be the reason to dissolve CAP, and I think that this situation is a poor means by which to judge the whole organization.
I don’t think Quinn is really doing the right thing by defending Tesla. However, if he really is the investigator of this situation from VAWG, then he has to maintainsome sense of objective analysis in his work. This website does have some damning evidence, but he isn’t wrong in not letting this one source be the basis of his judgement. If he’s worth his salt as a wing officer (and he damn well better be), he’ll come to the same conclusions as pointed out here, and she and this affair will be handled accordingly.
I am realistic about this. I realize that she’s got some friends in high enough places and she knows how to get (and keep) some men’s attention. But I’ve got enough faith to believe that she’ll be dealt with properly and that this situation will end in everyone’s favor.
April 15th, 2013 at 6:29 am
@345. “This website does have some damning evidence, but he isn’t wrong in not letting this one source be the basis of his judgement.” Huh? Have you always suffered from a reading comprehension deficiency or is it a late development? Although reasonable suspicions were raised here about Air Marshal Spanky, the conclusive evidence came from the United States government, in response to a Freedom of Information Act Request. If Jimmah had wanted to learn the truth, the same source was available to him.
April 15th, 2013 at 6:40 am
Yeah, I guess that the FOIA being verified by the Pentagon isn’t really enough proof. Passerby, you should have kept on passin’ by.
April 15th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
Right, FOIA requests coming from and responded to two outside sources.
To us, it’s an open and shut case. Even I don’t have a reason to believe that there’s an ounce of truth to her claims. I hope this solidly ends her involvement with CAP, that the organization learns something from this, and that none of us hears from her pathetic ass again.
But if there is any kind of investigation going on, it’s going to have to do its own digging, including getting verified FOIA documents. Even if Quinn gets the exact same paperwork TAH and the news station got, what matters is that he has it in his own hands.
I’m not saying this to be disrespectful or a contrary pain in the ass, and I’m really glad that this site (and Mr. Lilyea) brought the issue to light and kept on this story. But if Quinn/CAP were to make a judgement based solely on outside sources, I’d hardly call that a fair or decent investigation.
April 15th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
Passerby: um, not exactly. See the extract from AR 15-6 regarding what an IO can consider I provided in comment 333. I’m sure the CAP uses similar procedures and standards for internal investigations.
Short version: a military officer acting as IO is not restricted to sworn testimony or held to the standards of a court-martial regarding admissibility of evidence. He/she can (and should) consider all available evidence, giving each item the weight he/she deems appropriate.
I’d say that the combination of (1) a publicly posted extract from service records, (2) the pertinent points of which have been publicly confirmed by the Pentagon, plus (3) an admission by the target of the investigation that she has no records to disprove the Pentagon’s claims, are collectively quite persuasive. In fact, I’d say that that combination is sufficient to prove the individual a liar – as well as sufficient for her commander to take appropriate action.
No, that’s not sufficient evidence for a courts-martial conviction. But they’re damn sure sufficient for administrative action – like an administrative separation.
April 15th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
The point here is that the CAP had just as much time to develop sources as did anyone outside the organization. They should have had the information first, not just now be wondering how best to acquire it without looking like the utter fools that they are.
April 15th, 2013 at 9:20 pm
@Hondo – I’m not exactly certain what the CAP regs state for these kinds of situations. I could imagine them mirroring/echoing those of the military but only to a point. Because CAP is a volunteer civilian auxiliary and because membership criteria and expectations are nowhere near those in the military, not all things could translate perfectly (a CAP “O-4″ and an actual O-4 don’t fall from the same height, so to speak). There are administrative separations, and evidently that’s what she got…?
(Seriously, what is her status? I’ve read here and elsewhere that she’s in, that she’s out, that she was allowed to “retire,” that she got the boot and was flagged. Is the investigation even happening still? I’m not finding many straight answers and few people seem to know what’s going on.)
I was never an IG and never faced an inquiry, so how CAP decides punishments (and what evidence it uses) is admittedly a bit beyond me.
@OWB – The sticky situation with her Army service and CAP is that (apparently) she started in the latter as a cadet. So she already had a prior record to base her senior member career off of. CAP surely doesn’t discourage military service (in fact, many members are active, former, or retired military). However, I don’t recall them requiring any paperwork to apply for CAP (DD-214, etc.) unless maybe it was relevant to a certain specialty track (presenting flight records to become a CAP pilot, etc.). That being said, Tesla’s cadet experience meant that she really wouldn’t have been required to show her service paperwork. The only reason it’s an issue in this case is because she didn’t think her lies would come back to bite her in the ass.
April 15th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
And that is precisely why so many of us have said that any respect we might have had for the CAP has vaporized.
April 16th, 2013 at 10:17 am
@OWB: And that is precisely why so many of us have said that any respect we might have had for the CAP has vaporized.
Well Said.
CAP’s silence screams cover up. The Air Force has had all those scandals. CAP is an USAF Aux. Sounds like big brother blue is cleaning up it’s mess. Likely scenario, Quinn will be the VA group head in near future and Tesla may be his VC when the dust settles. And the Purple Heart saga continues…
I don’t want my kids any where near this program. It had promise when I was a kid, but the way they have handled this clusterfk like Tesla, it is a lost cause today.
April 16th, 2013 at 10:50 am
Extra shitbag loser.
April 16th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
Passerby: as a USAF auxiliary, the CAP’s investigative procedures would presumably mirror those of the USAF. The USAF investigative procedures for both IG and Commander-directed investigations are publicly available:
http://www.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-120228-085.pdf
http://www.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-120228-078.pdf
Both use the “preponderance of evidence” standard. And both specifically allow the use of circumstantial evidence.
“Quinn” may or may not be conducting an investigation of this matter under CAP auspices. If he is, and if he continues to demand additional proof at this point, he’s giving every indication of “slow-rolling” things – perhaps intentionally.
Given that (1) an Army spokesman, speaking on the record, has confirmed that Tesla’s records show neither a Purple Heart nor Iraq service, and (2) the presumed subject of his investigation (Tesla) has publicly admitted she lacks any documentation to disprove the Army’s statements concerning her military service, I fail to see what more “Quinn” thinks he needs. IMO he’s got fairly conclusive proof that Tesla has in the past falsely claimed (and worn) a Purple Heart she does not rate, and never served in Iraq as she claimed.
April 16th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
Hondo – If that was her above. She did not lie – she admitted to having a fat ass!
April 16th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
MCPO: I was referring to her initial claims of Purple Heart entitlement and Iraq service when I was referencing her lies.
I’ve neither met nor seen Ms. Tesla in person, so I have no personal knowledge regarding her size. I’ll therefore take her purported word above regarding the flabby nature of her ass. (smile)
April 16th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
Guys,
She was allowed to resign back in November when this whole flap first came to light online.
While it is certainly not what you’d expect, it is pretty standard that someone is given that option instead of the lengthy membership termination process. Commanders have way better things to be dealing with than a member who is being a problem, so if they can get them to “just go away” versus a long, grotesque charade that ends in the same thing (them out of the organization) they’ll do that if they can. (not saying its right, but is the reality of the situation)
Now, I have it on pretty good authority that her records at National HQ had a flag put on them in the event that she attempted to renew her membership after it ran out in February. She’s no longer listed on the CAP membership rolls, so she’s technically no longer CAP’s problem. They cashiered her (even though they didn’t formally do it, being told “you’re done” is enough). They’re not hiding anything.
Virginia had been told as early as LAST SUMMER that they had a problem in their midst by more than one person. The state commander elected to ignore it, or didn’t feel it was important enough to warrant a full investigation. (he’s a retired Air Force guy, as I recall. Sucks that he didn’t give a crap)
Mary & Jonn got the records in October. We put together a package detailing the issues (the lies, the documentation) and forwarded it to the state commander. Instead of unleashing his IG on it (as he probably should have), he let the vice commander investigate. Yeah. We see where that led.
Did their vice commander in VA do a crummy job of investigating? Yep.
When it appeared that nothing was forthcoming from VA, the PDF file that the state commander got went “up the chain” around the 10th or 15th of November.
Suddenly, Tesla is “no longer participating.” And then the state commander is abruptly announced he was stepping down (while its been said that the Tesla situation was not the cause of his resignation, I’m sure that the region commander just heaped this on a pile of other issues…)
So she resigned in November, and her membership ran out in February. She’s gone, guys. Not in CAP anymore. So really, she’s not CAP’s problem now. This latest flap (over her being a gigantic attention whore on TV) actually had very little do with CAP except that her and her CAP photo were thrust back into the limelight.
CAP _did_ eliminate her from the organization. Eventually. Did it take longer than it should have? I think so. Did people ignore pertinent documentary evidence in lieu of personal assurances to the contrary? Yep. Was it any kind of a “cover up” on CAP’s part? Doubtful.
And after this, I think the chances of Major Quinn ever becoming the state commander are somewhere between slim and none. And since Tesla is not a member, and is unlikely to be able to ever become a member again, I doubt she’ll become the vice commander.
April 16th, 2013 at 5:51 pm
@358- Great points. Really, the latest article didn’t mention CAP at all, just her claims. She was raked over the coals for it, and life goes on. I am sure she will think twice next time. If she lies again and a reporter or someone else falls for it, I am sure we will find out and go back through all this lol
April 16th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
@359
I am sure she will think twice next time.
Seems to me thinking once would be a 100% improvement for that one.
April 16th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
Unfortunately, it is very likely that she will just come up with a new name, a new venue, and a variation on the theme of outrageous claims. She is still in training, honing her craft of lies, as we have seen so many times with other frauds.
Nothing would please me more than to have her prove me wrong.
April 16th, 2013 at 9:12 pm
@351 – I was a CAP cadet and later served in the Air Force Reserve, the Indiana Air National Guard, and am currently an officer in the Indiana Army National Guard. After I returned from a deployment to Iraq, I briefly re-joined CAP as a Senior Member and, when I filled out my paperwork, the application asked specifically if I had served (or was serving) in the military and asked for relevant documentation to ensure that I had not been discharged under less than honorable conditions. So, your statements in post 351 are not accurate. Obviously, CAP as an organization would not want a shitbag joining their organization and there’s no better way of finding this out than looking at a DD214. It seems that VA Wing dropped the ball on this one and it would behoove them to straighten this out ASAP; this will only get worse for the organization if this is allowed to fester.
April 17th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
#361: If she can change her SSN & fingerprints, sure.
April 17th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
#362: She was a member since she was a cadet. She never presented a DD-214 because she was never asked to. When she showed up in VA (after moving from TX) she arrived with her “narrative” (she had been in VA Wing previously) that included flight school, Iraq, etc. When you transfer units in CAP, nobody asks you for a DD-214.
In any event, she is not Virginia or CAP’s problem anymore: she’s not a member.
April 17th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
Mustang2LT: not necessarily. Some chapter actions result in an honorable discharge. It’s possible Tesla provided them with an accurate DD214 and added the lies about Iraq and being entitled to a Purple Heart after joining.
Where I fault the VA CAP is in not taking action for months after the matter of Tesla’s lies was brought to their attention. That is IMO inexcusable.
April 17th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
@361. She doesn’t have to change either so long as there are organizations (CAP comes to mind) and individuals (a few come to mind) who are willing to take her at her word without more.
April 17th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
CORRECTION to cmt 366: I should have cited to cmt 363, which was a response to OWB’s cmt in 361.
April 17th, 2013 at 11:08 pm
The following post found on her FB page:
April 13
“Speculation is now truth. There is nothing I can do about this situation….even the Pentagon says that my name isn’t what I say it is. *smdh*”
April 18th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
@368: Can’t help but lie.
April 18th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
Perhaps rather than writing “smdh” on Facebook she should just STFU.
April 18th, 2013 at 10:17 pm
Dear Chelle:
It is NOT POSSIBLE that the US Army or the ENTIRETY of the DoD have ZERO record of you being an Officer Candidate, a 2LT, a 1LT or a CPT while having gone thru OCS, Officer Basic Course, IERW and the UH-60 course, PCS’d to a unit in Germany, served a tour in Iraq and then were shot down, injured, awarded a Purple Heart (among other things), returned to the US and thence discharged with a disability.
If you were really an O-1, O-2 & O-3, and went thru all that training, YOU WOULD HAVE RECORDS. A Commission, Orders, Pay Records, Flight Records, Physicals, Grade Slips, graduation certificates, the books from OCS/OBC, the books from Flight School, an FAA pilots license as a rotary-wing aviator, treatment records, there would be a UH-60 “shoot-down” incident in Iraq listed on the date you were supposedly shot down, etc, etc, etc.
Read it again: NOT POSSIBLE THAT THIS INFORMATION DOES NOT EXIST.
So continue with your charade that “even the Pentagon says [your] name isn’t what [you] say it is.”
If you’re in possession of documentation that backs up your claims and can be verified (ie. you didn’t just print off a Meritorious Service Medal certificate with “SGT CHELLE LYNN HOUGAN” on your inkjet printer), I’ll kiss your ass right on the National Mall in front of the National Air & Space Museum.
But you can’t verify what does not exist.
April 18th, 2013 at 10:56 pm
Is she still holding on to her story? I see again what Senior Chief Shipley is talking about when he says that “A lot of these posers will take their lies with them to the grave.”.
April 18th, 2013 at 11:11 pm
I forgot to sign my post #371:
Hugs & kisses,
Capt Poseur Buster
(captposeurbuster@hushmail.com)
April 19th, 2013 at 12:18 am
“The following post found on her FB page:
April 13
“Speculation is now truth. There is nothing I can do about this situation….even the Pentagon says that my name isn’t what I say it is. *smdh*”
Wow, there is no end to this woman’s bullshit. Now she has to come up with some secret Squirrel story about how they scrubbed all records of her because she was flying uber-secret missions and refused orders to bomb a refugee camp filled with orphans. Or the great Kansas City Fire time warped to burn up her records.
Hey Chelle, just drop the military poser shit and find a local underground bondage club to join. You can pretend you are Jabba the Hut’s sister and Ron Mailhan can dress like Howdy Doody and rope your big ass. Or you can dress like an Injun and say your name is Buffalo Wallow Woman.
Seriously just drop off the radar.
April 20th, 2013 at 1:15 am
I’ll be looking out for this chick. I know exactly where her complex is, too. I wonder if the apartment management would like to hear how the woman that called them out on the tattered flag was called out for being a fraud.
I wonder if her boyfriend Quinn-Boy hang out in the area. I’m sure she walks him around on a leash.
April 20th, 2013 at 2:33 am
Damn, this broad sure is a glutton for punishment!!! Here’s the convo I had with her tonight on facebook:
Conversation started April 11
3:49pm
thebronze
You lying, poser sack of shit. Busted, bitch!
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=32709
Chelle Lynne Anderson-Tesla; female pretender pilot
thisainthell.us
Meet Chelle Lynne Anderson-Tesla who is currently a major in the Civil Air Patrol in Virginia and assigned to HQ, VA Wing as Director of Aerospace Education. She got that job because she represented herself as combat-wounded Army Aviation Captain, and a UH-60 Blackhawk pilot. Of course, she’s here o…
Today
9:58pm
Michelle A. Tesla
thebronze,
Does it make you feel better to have said that? You are obviously a wonderful man and have never done anything wrong. Please, let me worship the ground that you walk on. GFY.
Michelle
10:23pm
thebronze
Haha! Sure I’ve made mistakes, but I never lied about my service. You fucking piece of shit!!
10:57pm
Michelle A. Tesla
Nice to know that you will spend your time talking to a fucking piece of shit on a Friday night….you have nothing else to do in California….so sad. Go drink a beer and go fuck yourself. Goodnight, Sam.
11:27pm
thebronze
I was waiting to get seen at the VA hospital, so yeah, I didn’t have anything better to do. Later, you lying sack of shit.
April 20th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
@375 If you saw the first news report, you can tell by the look on the manager’s face, she didn’t make no “friends” with them! Amusing how the “saving face” activity includes carefully arranging friends: virtual & rt who she knows she can still manipulate with her BS, or use to get her needs met. And two very separate FB personalities, one very public for a few hundred “influential” friends, several in CAP and the, now much smaller, group on the weird, personality, “acting out” FB page where she “bares all”, or gives the impression of said. FroRo is a SMALL town, tho. Eventually, it will run out and there’ll be no more “welcome mat”!
However, have heard that some have deep concerns about the safety of the child at the hands of a pathological sociopath, with a fixation on attention seeking, especially through numerous, nearly weekly visits to hospital, “accidentally” crashing two vehicles then posting pics of the overturned car numerous times, claiming serious injuries, which also was not true, claiming kid & ex were in “serious” accident and in critical condition at one point… All posted for everyone to read on her FB! Now the kid has supposedly been “sick” and visited the ER 3 times in two weeks. Anyone else familiar with Münchausen syndrome by proxy?
April 22nd, 2013 at 12:13 am
This chick has issues.
April 22nd, 2013 at 8:25 am
I’m surprised it took this long, but her original FB page (https://www.facebook.com/GCAGoddess) is no longer alive.
April 24th, 2013 at 11:40 am
You should contact a major news show like 60 minutes, 20/20, 48 Hours, HLN or even Nancy Grace (No I don’t really like her but she would eat this shit up and this poser). I think the more airtime it gets the more can be done about her crimes. It disgusts me that she is still walking around and no charges have been filed against her.
BTW, she is NOT the sister of Cpt. James C. Edge. He didn’t have a sister, only 2 brothers.
http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/jcedge.htm
And as #377Just sayin posted, she does need to be investigated by the State regarding the mysterious injuries and illnesses of her son. I have never known anyone but her to have so much bad luck, injuries, catastrophic events in their life like she does. She conveniently always posts them on FB with multiple pictures while she’s in the hospital, even when she was supposedly in ICU. She needs to be stopped before she can do more harm. Who knows what all she is capable of. This woman is a ticking time bomb and now that she has been exposed and can’t ride the gravy train anymore she will turn her focus onto something/someone else.
I do have a question about her being able to be a member of CAP. She supposedly had extensive injuries from her “shot down Blackhawk”, she walks with a cane and is on powerful pain meds. These meds cause her to be extremely drowsy and lethargic, where she requires a lot of rest and at times can barely function. Can a person in this condition really be a CAP leader and do all the flights and activities that’s required of them?
BTW, I was a recipient of her email that she sent out last year requesting ‘donations’ to start over after she lost everything in a fire. That’s when the red flag went off for me. I was very suspicious because of the list of items she had. It was absolutely crazy.
April 24th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
@380 where’s the “fire”? Seriously, she asked for help after losing all in a “fire”? That’s “news”! Only “fire” was in her head! Another fabrication. : > ( Now apparently BOTH FB pages have gone away. Probably realized how damning her page would be if CPS got a hold of it!
April 24th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
@380 You should contact a major news show like 60 minutes, 20/20, 48 Hours, HLN or even Nancy Grace (No I don’t really like her but she would eat this shit up and this poser). I think the more airtime it gets the more can be done about her crimes. It disgusts me that she is still walking around and no charges have been filed against her.
Excellent idea. From what I have seen on FB the Virginia VC is going about business like nothing has happened. No official word from the CAP about her. IMHO, the more exposure to this fraud will lessen the chance she gets off.
April 24th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Her being on pain meds raises a huge red flag in my mind, my first wife was a pill junkie, and she would do or say whatever she thought was necessary to prey on someone’s sympathy and manipulate them however she wanted to. I think she’s a Sociopath, plain and simple, and she has no feeling for anything other than instant gratification, nothing else means anything to her, even someone’s life or health.
April 24th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
My Doctor and I were just discussing how people who abuse pain meds have given everyone who requires them a bad name. And how since it was determined that it was to hard to arrest all the “bad people” they went after the Doctors and when that didn’t work they did what was sure to punish all those in the right. They made it where a pharmacist just can’t order the meds anymore. (remind anyone of how gun control is going? Just make it harder to find the ammo) Then talking about that kind of fraud and how suspicious everyone is of everyone nowadays lead to us talking about Stolen Valor. He and I both respect the hell out of anyone who’s served in any form, where I use to run up to shake a person’s hand in uniform I now eye them with cynicism. No, Stolen Valor is not a victimless crime, it’s made a victim of us all.
April 25th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
Does anyone know if this lady even has a job? If so, does it require a clearance? As an employer, I would like to know if one of my employees were pulling this crap, especially if it was a job requiring integrity and trustworthiness.
April 25th, 2013 at 1:47 pm
#385: My bet is that she is living completely on the public assistance dole…
April 26th, 2013 at 7:49 am
@386: You’re probably right. But I remember reading somewhere that she was claiming a federal job on her LinkedIn account. Nothing else she says is true, not sure why anyone would think that is, but you never know.
My guess is that she’s living on someone else’s dime, like her ex-husband’s. Meh, you’re probably right, public funds are providing this chick with all she needs I’m sure, and then some.
April 26th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
@387- she WAS claiming a Fed job… I posted it a while back but am too lazy to read back on all the comments lol
April 28th, 2013 at 1:15 am
@387 – She’s claimed a lot of other things which haven’t actually been true either. And I have a gut feeling that she’s no stranger to sugar daddies.
April 30th, 2013 at 7:27 am
I did a google search for her old facebook name “GCAGoddess” and turned up a couple of BDSM type sites. Didn’t want to click on them, but interesting find for sure.
I’m not saying I’m against it, but come on, if you’re working with kids in the C.A.P. then you may want to consider having an alternate user name. But then again, she’s a frew french fries short of a happy meal.
May 8th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Look what I found
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMC7NkdMYzlgQ-YwpyKsmcQ?feature=watch
381
Just sayin Says:
April 24th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
@380 where’s the “fire”? Seriously, she asked for help after losing all in a “fire”? That’s “news”! Only “fire” was in her head! Another fabrication. : > ( Now apparently BOTH FB pages have gone away. Probably realized how damning her page would be if CPS got a hold of it!
Yes, she really did this. She’s got some big ones, I’ll give her that!
May 8th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
@391, I have to disagree. Like I said earlier, I’m certain that she’s a Sociopath, the only thing that matters to her is instant gratification. Other peoples’ lives, health, and well-being obviously mean nothing to her!
May 15th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
Quite the interesting find:
http://www.blogger.com/profile/07789618958985204046
May 15th, 2013 at 6:45 pm
393, looks like an act.
May 17th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
@392
What are you disagreeing with, I’m confused.
May 20th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
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