The end of the Lindsey Stone episode

| November 22, 2012

So, it looks like Lindsey Stone and her photographer have been fired, according to their employer. So it looks like someone in this country has discovered that actions have consequences. I sympathize with some people who claim she shouldn’t have been fired, but that was her employers decision, all I did was post the photo – and then I went to bed. By the time I woke up in the morning and logged on to the blog, it was completely out of my hands. There were over 250 comments and tens of thousands of visitors.

My former editor at Business Insider, Robert Johnson, a veteran himself, tried to defend Lindsey yesterday;

The blind adoration of the military and its personnel is getting creepy, and I’m talking from the inside looking out. While correcting the ugly way Vietnam veterans were treated is good, the over-compensation needs to stop. Putting on a uniform doesn’t change who you are, and questioning institutions and individuals, including the military and its troops, is good and healthy.

If there had been social media in the middle 70s, and a photo like this had been taken and spread around, it would have got guffaws and applause. Probably right up through the eighties, that photo would have elicited that response. The country had lost it’s way in the late sixties. People like John Kerry were heroes. Morals didn’t exist in the popular culture. Jimmy Carter awarded the folks who ran out on their responsibilities a pardon his first day in office. There were no consequences for bad acting.

What happened to Lindsey Stone this week had nothing to do with “blind adoration of the military”, it had to do with a line being drawn in the sand of the culture war. It turns out that some Americans are tired of the “Occupy” generation. Their outrage over this picture has been building in the last several years.

OK, Lindsey wants to make it about the sign, fine, the sign was there to remind people of how they behave in civil society, if the sign wasn’t there, most Americans would still know how to act.

That “blind adoration of the military” didn’t work so well for those Marines who urinated on dead Taliban. Some of them lost their jobs over that little photographic incident. How did Lindsey feel about that? What did Robert Johnson think about that? Me, personally, I thought it was stupid that they photographed their antics, but they shouldn’t lose their jobs over it, the same way I felt about Lindsey, but their employers thought differently. And I had no input in either case. I may be wrong, but I don’t remember Robert sticking up for those Marines either.

At Huffington Post, some yuppie turd named Chez Pazienza tells veterans how we should feel about this issue because, he claims, his father was a SEAL “for Christ’s sake”. I doubt that his father as a SEAL, that’s just something yuppie turds say because they have no moral authority in a discussion. In fact if you go through the comments, all of the yuppie turds claim that they have a dog in this discussion because someone they know was in the military, not that they themselves were in the military. Thanks, guys, but you are exactly the reason that most of America drew a line in the sand. “My cousin’s neighbor’s dog collar was made by a veteran” isn’t much moral authority at all.

Now that it’s all said and done, I’d like to thank The Burn Pit, Michelle Malkin’s Twitchy, Wizbang, Milblogging, The Shit Pile and Free North Carolina for recognizing that it was us who broke the story initially. And thanks to JP for sending us the link initially.

Welcome, Morons.

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  1. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    Jonn the Terminator.

  2. MAJ Mike says:

    (Sigh!) I refer to my former military rank only as a screen name suggested to me by one of my student when I taught high school. I served 24 years in the Army National Guard. Enlisted as a PV1, promote to PV3 because of college ROTC. Went to OCS when my CO and 1SGT decided that I “…wasn’t NCO material.” Prepped for the Great Fulda Gap Live Fire Exercise that was cancelled in 1989. Retired in 2000 after 15 years as a Federal Readiness Technician for the Guard.

    I have peacetime decorations (several ARCOMs and AAMs, service ribbons, etc). So I’m a marginal veteran, at best.

    That said, my oath to the Constitution is still in force. After 12 years out, my old uniforms still fit, and I still meet Army height/weight standards. I can still shoot expert with the 1911A1, M16 and probably with the M60.

    One day, I’ll take my place at the National Cemetary where my fater now resides. I hope that by that time the self-proclaimed douchbags like Ms. Stone get their collective asses kicked on site for similiar behavior. I’m grateful and humbled for the sacrifice made by mena and women better than me who haved allowed me and my family to live in this country.

    The phonies and the douchbags seem to survive while the real heroes are lost to us, Hell of a deal.

    Rant over. Thanks for putting up with an often angry old fart.

  3. Nik says:

    Cite your proof that we collaborated to get her fired. Collaboration, by it’s very nature, requires a degree of coordination and cooperation. I didn’t see anyone coordinating an effort to get her fired.

    Did we somehow control the media to report on this? Did we somehow find the means to control the 18k+ people on the “Fire Lindsey Stone” Facebook page? Did we somehow coerce the company to fire her? With a remote control or something, I’m guessing.

    No. We did none of that. I did see a handful of people sent an email to the company.

    I also saw some people celebrating the fact she was fired. Saying that’s evidence of a collaborative effort is saying that the people who celebrate the Cowboys’ next win are controlling the situation.

    I further see exactly no evidence that anyone here was in communication with her to educate and explain things. I did, however, witness her flailing attempts on Facebook, where she continued to ridicule and seek to offend Veterans.

    I also see you making baseless accusations against a group of people, yet claiming we should take the high road.

    And further, her life is not ruined. And if you claim her life is ruined, you have a far weaker definition of adversity than I.

  4. Nik says:

    Bah. The post I was rebutting is no more. I didn’t imagine the whole thing. Promise.

    • Jonn Lilyea says:

      Sorry, Nik, but I’ve reached the limits of my tolerance for some of the trolls. If they have something of substance to add to the discussion instead of just calling people names and their silly accusations, I’ll let them play with us.

  5. Ex-PH2 says:

    Oh, Nik, it’s just The Dude trying to stir up trouble by blaming us for somebody else’s crass, vulgar and socially unacceptable behavior.

  6. Nik says:


  7. Nik says:

    No need to apologize Jonn. It’s your house. We just come to visit. And even so, I can’t think of a single reason to blame you.

  8. Green thumb says:

    Does anyone know if this loser ever got another job?