Chuck Hagle for SecDef?

| December 4, 2012

COB6 emailed that he just heard that Chuck Hagle is being considered for Secretary of Defense. So I checked the news and The National Journal is reporting that he’s being considered for either Defense or State;

Hagel has been critical of the current Republican Party since leaving office in 2008, even backing Democratic Senate candidate Bob Kerrey in this cycle. In 2008, Hagel traveled to Iraq with then-Sen. Obama during the presidential election.

“Now the Republican Party is in the hands of the right, I would say the extreme right, more than ever before,” Hagel told FP in a previous interview. “You’ve got a Republican Party that is having difficulty facing up to the fact that if you look at what happened during the first 8 years of the century, it was under Republican direction.”

Before Hagle got on his bipartisan kick, I thought he was a good guy. Hagle, a Vietnam veteran, when Strom Thurmond left the Senate, helped us get National Airborne Day through the Senate. Then his office called me on my cell phone and thanked me for helping to get it through. So, even when he went insane, I still kept a warm spot in my heart for him.

Then he started his bat shit crazy “Iraq is like Vietnam” thing and even had VoteVets supporting him. In fact, VoteVets will tell you that Haigle is the only Republican they ever supported – which is a lie because Haigle’s last election was in 2002 and VoteVets didn’t exist until 2006, but it tells you the kind of company Haigle keeps.

Making Hagle SecDef only makes sense, since Panetta was the only Democrat SecDef since 1997, so they need another Republican in that office, and who better than an insane anti-war RINO. I’m not sure how this will work out for veterans, because Hagle always made a show of supporting veterans. He left the Army as an E-5 infantry squad leader in 2/47 Infantry, 9th ID – so we can only hope that he remembers his roots.

Category: Military issues, Veterans in politics

Comments (86)

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  1. Michael says:

    His roots are where the money is. Nothing more except POWER.

  2. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    You mean like Murtha remembered?

  3. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    “Hagel said Bush made the wrong decision by not meeting AGAIN with Cindy Sheehan…” Oh, that Hagel. The emphasis in the quote is mine.

  4. Kate says:

    he’s a numbnut, so he belongs in the obama regime.

  5. Common Sense says:

    Better than Kerry, if not by much

  6. DaveO says:

    So. All the UnderSecretaries and Deputies and Assistant Secretaries – all Obama appointees – are going to support someone who once belonged to a party that still claims Booosh-the-Hated-One as a member?

    So who are they hiring to keep Hagle company and let him think he’s doing something?

  7. NHSparky says:

    Better than Kerry is like saying “smartest kid on the short bus” comparison.

  8. Green Thumb says:

    Met this guy as a young SGT.

    He seemed ok.

    Check the spelling(s).

    REP out of Nebraska if I recall.

  9. Just Plain Jason says:

    Gen. Mattis Sec. Defense…FTW!

  10. UpNorth says:

    How about Gen. Pete Pace? Forget it, he’s possessed of common sense and honor.

  11. You Aint Grunt You Aint Shit says:

    John Lilyeah, you are a fucking moron.

  12. Twist says:

    Says the person that can’t spell Jonn’s name when it is printed right up top.

  13. You Aint Grunt You Aint Shit says:

    Funny, I don’t see you correcting him for repeatedly botching Hagle’s name despite it being spelled corectly several times in the passage he quoted.

  14. Twist says:

    Funny, I didn’t see Jonn call him a fucking moron. Insane, yes, fucking moron, no.

  15. Hondo says:

    @13: that was mentioned above. Whether Jonn has seen that particular comment or not is a different question.

    Then again, you are someone who publicly calls himself dung. So perhaps such eventualities are beyond your grasp.

  16. NHSparky says:

    I ain’t a grunt, therefore I ain’t shit. Meaning I’m almost certainly of a higher plane of existence than our dear little scooter on the carpet.

    I’m down with that.

  17. You Aint Grunt You Aint Shit says:

    Once a grunt, always a grunt, how about you butthorn, what is/was your MOS?

    Oh, and Twist, ot goes without saying that Lilyea is insane.

  18. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    @11. What’s up with that comment? It can’t be the post. Maybe if you clued us in, we could understand. Is this a personal beef or what?

  19. Ex-PH2 says:

    Ooooh! Are we getting into invective, vituperation and gross insults now?

  20. NHSparky says:

    3353/63, 3373, 3376, and a few others.

    At least my MOS/NEC number doesn’t match my ASVAB score, son.

  21. Twist says:

    He is also the guy that didn’t know that the Marines had Infantry.

    He said something to the effect “I was in the Infantry not the Marines”.

  22. Hondo says:

    Consider the screen name, 2-17 Air Cav, and what it says about the individual using it. He apparently doesn’t realize (or doesn’t care) that he is using a double-negative and calling himself dung via using same.

  23. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    @22. I just don’t get where this is coming from. To me, it seems like it’s coming out of left field. Is there history to this?

  24. You Aint Grunt You Aint Shit says:

    I was talking to Hondo, Sparky. Do all of Lilyra’s buttboys have trouble telling themselves apart? The only guy who ever called me son had a CIB with star on it and 1SG stripes, until you get those you can keep your torpedo sucking bitch mouth closed.

  25. NHSparky says:

    Wow…sounds a lot like Dewald. Almost down to the homophobic suggestions.

  26. NHSparky says:

    And when you act like an adult, I’ll stop calling you son, son.

  27. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    “The only guy who ever called me son had a CIB with star on it and 1SG stripes….” No Dad, huh? Sorry to hear that. So, what’s up with the anger? Why do you want to slash and burn here?

  28. Twist says:

    “keep your torpedo sucking bitch mouth closed.”

    Are you using some sort of web cam service on TAH that the rest of us don’t have access to?

  29. Ex-PH2 says:

    Don’t hold back on this lewdster, Sparky. 😛

  30. You Aint Grunt You Aint Shit says:

    I was talking about my dad, butthorn.

  31. NHSparky says:

    He’s just trying to be clever, Twist. Yeah, like I’ve never heard submarine = ghey jokes before.


    They’re so cute at that age, and then someone teaches them to type (albeit poorly) and introduces them to the Internet.

  32. Twist says:

    I never thought I would say this but, please change your screen name. You are being an embarrassment to my MOS.

  33. You Aint Grunt You Aint Shit says:

    Aww Sparky a double post? That’s when you know someone is butthurt, guess my little joke struck a nerve. Bring back some bittersweet memories, did it?

  34. NHSparky says:

    AirCav–he just pretends his daddy was a 1SG. Truth be told, as many “daddys” as he’s had, you could add up all the stripes on their sleeves over a given weekend his mom got plowed by and it still wouldn’t add up to the number of stripes/hashmarks on a First Sergeant’s uniform.

    C’est dommage. Such is life when even Maury Povich goes, “Fuck it–nobody’s EVER gonna know who your daddy is.”

  35. Twist says:

    @34, I beg to differ. If you add up the stripes it very well could add up to the Sergeant Major of the Universe.

  36. Hondo says:

    @24: then address me when you’re speaking to me, dipstick. Otherwise it’s hard to tell who an ignorant putz like yourself is feebly attempting to insult.

    My current or former military specialty isn’t the topic of discussion here. And, frankly, today I simply don’t feel like satisfying your curiosity concerning the subject. Had you asked politely I might have. Since you didn’t: go consume excrement and expire.

    Do you need me to translate that last phrase for you?

    The subject of discussion here is your manifest ignorance. And you’ve proven my point above. You are apparently so damn ignorant that you don’t realize your screen name is semantically equivalent to calling yourself dung.

    Now, how about you run along and let the adults here discuss things that are beyond your ken – sonny boy.

  37. NHSparky says:

    Twist–or maybe MSGT Soupy? Could it…naw…could it be???

  38. Green Thumb says:


    I was a grunt and I actually agree with your screen name.

    However, you are acting like a turd.

    Do you have a point about Hagel?

  39. Ex-PH2 says:

    You mean, Reamy Ramey?

  40. You Aint Grunt You Aint Shit says:

    Aww Sparky, I’m sorry your wife did that to you, but you really shouldn’t go recycling you bad experiences as shitty yo mama jokes.

    And Hondo, a bit defensive about your MOS, eh? Thanks for confirming that you’re nobody of any substance. As far as my handle goes, that dawned on me about 14 years ago when I heard my very first Team Leader say it to some REMF, possibly even you. I like it anyway. Run along now, someone needs an LES, and you’re the only “man” that can do it!

  41. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    @30. Most men refer to their fathers as father, dad, and such. I never heard anyone refer to his father solely by rank or profession. Oh, and what is a butthorn?

  42. Twist says:

    @40, Hondo has never been defensive about his MOS. Just ask any of the regulars here. Judging from his comment above he just does not feel like indulging a petulant child.

  43. You Aint Grunt You Aint Shit says:

    Twist, stop fighting the other buttboy’s battles for them. Besides your S-3’s SGM is looking for his coffee. Better snap to it.

  44. The Dude says:

    All Chuck Hagel did was criticize the Bush administration for how they handled the war and he was 100% right.. God forbid a politician actually shows some concern for the Soldier on the ground, which he was one..

  45. NHSparky says:

    Oh, and Grunt–not currently married. Son, I am disappoint. Thought you’d have grown a thicker skin by now to match your skull.

  46. You Aint Grunt You Aint Shit says:

    But she was your wife when she was fucking around on you, no?

  47. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    Is this guy The Dude or are there two guys who come in here just to contribute their pent up anger?

  48. NHSparky says:

    Yawn. Seriously, son–my personal life is none of your fucking business, but no, infidelity wasn’t an issue.

    Now considering your situation, where were it not for date rape you’d still be a virgin, and where it comes to sex with women (HUMAN women), you still are, well…

  49. You Aint Grunt You Aint Shit says:

    Sure it wasn’t, because you were too much of a pussy to make an issue out of it. Maybe if you had spoken up earlier and sought counseling you wouldn’t have slapped her around later forcing her to get that restraining order.

  50. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    I’m rather loathe to go to another string because this guy would doubtless score that as some sort of sick victory. I don’t get his purpose here, other than the obvious one of inane attacks on people. I don’t have the right doctoral letters behind my name to figure this one out. If there’s a story here, I sure would like to hear it.