Patrick Haab; Anti-immigrant phony

| December 14, 2012 | 171 Comments

A few years ago, you might have heard about Patrick Haab who held seven illegal immigrants at gun point in Arizona’s Maricopa County. He claimed he was an Army Reservist sergeant who had just come back from an Iraq deployment and, of course, suffered from PTS. He was featured on Fox News’ old Hannity & Colmes Show at the time.

Well, you know the story already because he’s showing up on TAH. Scotty did the research and chased down his records.

Haab FOIA

Yup, a couple of months in the Guard and a few months in the Reserves. He did rocket up to PV2, which almost like a sergeant, right?  (SEE UPDATE BELOW, WAS A SGT)  And who hasn’t suffered from combat stress after counting bullets as an ammo handler? From his records, it doesn’t look like he even went to basic training (HE DID, AGAIN, SEE UPDATE), yet somehow he finagled a job training young cadets in Kentucky and wearing Sergeant rank.

Patrick Haab

So, whatever line he’s using works. He fooled the media then and now some military school.

UPDATE: OK, here’s the DD214 he sent me. It looks like he was a sergeant, but I don’t see any service in Iraq or Kuwait. He has a Kosovo Campaign Medal and a UN Medal, but it looks like his OEF Support was pulled from Michigan. In the comments, you can see that he said “I mistakenly said Iraq when I meant Kuwait and said Special Forces when I meant Special Operations” because those six (or seven) illegal aliens had him all discombobulated. Like he was on drugs for his PTS when he was arrested, even though it looks like he only deployed to Kosovo. Anyway, judge for yourself;

Haab DD214
I altered some of the addresses and his birth date.

Category: Phony soldiers

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  1. Tman says:

    Another day, another phony who “fools” the media and those around him/her.

    No more excuses, just lazy journalism and lazy people not wanting to do the most basics of research on “veterans” and their claims.

  2. pete says:

    these scumbags are coming outta the woodwork in droves now!

  3. MAJMike says:

    Hell, I’ve got more time in the chow line than he does for his entire military “career”.

    Also, what the heck is “US Army Cadets”? Guess you can get anything sewn on a name tape.

  4. Lucky says:

    What the Monkey Fuck are the US ARMY CADETS?

  5. Gumshoe says:

    Had a newly minted Captain get “Crunch” as his name tape as a joke. You CAN get anything put on a name tape.

    Army Cadets is a youth program that is pretty wonky. There are marine cadets, navy cadets, etc. I’d never send my kid to that… I’d almost guarantee it’s full of imposters like this jack bat.

  6. Green Thumb says:

    Turd.

  7. Chip@NASA says:

    @4 Lucky,
    A fan of Action Figure Therapy?? LOL~

  8. Scotty says:

    He used the combat experienced PTSD issue in order to have the charges dropped against him in AZ. I would love to see Sheriff Joe get his hands on him now.What a POS !

  9. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    Me no understando. How does one do a couple months in the NG and pop into the reserves for less than a year and then out? I mean, is prior service possible here? I just don’t get it.

  10. Green Thumb says:

    Not seeing a combat patch.

    Poser.

  11. USAC says:

    The U.S. Army Cadet Corps is a career exploration program for young people age 12-18, similar to the Naval Sea Cadets and Civil Air Patrol. For details, go to http://www.goarmycadets.org. The program also hosts Forest Hill Military Academy. For details, go to http://www.goforesthill.com .

    The above individual is no longer associated with the U.S. Army Cadet Corps as of two weeks ago.

    Joseph M. Land, Sr.
    COL, AG, U.S. Army Cadet Corps
    Acting Commander
    Millersburg, KY

  12. Virtual Insanity says:

    #11 May we ask?

  13. Hondo says:

    2-17 Air Cav: I’d guess an entry level separation in the first case, and either an ELS or another type of admin discharge for the latter. But those are only guesses.

  14. JA says:

    Here is a picture of other folks with the US Army Cadets thing.
    http://www.goarmycadets.com/service-in-other-cadet-programs.php

    I guess it is somewhere between boy-scouts and CAP. I am not sure what if any DOD connection it has or claims to have. I will be honest. These groups weird me out. That said, I suppose there is no harm in “lets play dress up and pretend” and they may actually do some good for some kids so… I’ll keep an open mind. Does anyone here know more about them?

  15. Hondo says:

    VI: I’m guessing they may have gotten an advance copy of the FOIA above, or got tipped by phone and contacted NPRC themselves. But that’s just a guess.

    Too bad/so sad.

  16. Virtual Insanity says:

    Hondo–That’s what I was suspecting, but just morbidly curious.

  17. Scotty says:

    Thank you for the update Joseph M. Land, Sr.
    COL, AG, U.S. Army Cadet Corps
    He was arrested two weeks ago for having a concealed weapon on school grounds. So I would assume that is the reason for his dismissal?

  18. idaho2run says:

    #5-yup- while mobilizing for a deployment in Camp Shelby, our company got one of our “special” soldiers a name tap.
    It said “tore up” as that was his nickname.

  19. Blackshoe says:

    Being a Navy guy, I was wondering the same thing as #9. Maybe he was a DEPer in the NG, never went to BCT, and then joined the USAR later?

  20. SGT HAAB says:

    How about doing some REAL research on updated records…I’ll post them if possible. Already e-mailed the admin

  21. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    @20. So, what’s the deal? Were you prior service or what? The records will back you up so how about sharing?

  22. Really???? says:

    How easy is it to take public record and use only what you need to support an unsubstantiated claim against a situation the general public is unknowledgeable about and posting it on a blog? How immature and just unprofessional are the people supporting the Forest Hill command? How many more lawsuits are they wanting??

  23. SGT HAAB says:

    And I was fired from USAC for unknown reasons, hoping to go over that soon with them.

    The Arizona incident did happen and all charges were dropped before going to court. A lot of media releases were half-truths with little factual information. If you want to know the REAL story and what ACTUALLY happened, are you going to trust the left-wing media or the person in the situation and the witnesses? And yes, while on the phone with the 911 dispatcher, I mistakenly said Iraq when I meant Kuwait and said Special Forces when I meant Special Operations.

    Like I said earlier, ask me anything you want and I’ll provide original records.

  24. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    @23. Well, is the FOIA accurate and is that the extent of your US military service?

  25. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    @22. Unless you, too, are Haab, instead of blaming others for the gov’t-supplied record, what was Haab’s service? Just trying to help get the truth out here–with records to corroborate, of course.

  26. SGT HAAB says:

    @24 No, I was promoted to SGT, E-5 and received an honorable discharge in 2007 after serving since 2001 in the Civil Affairs which is 90-95% Reservists.

    The arrest two weeks ago for carrying a weapon on school grounds was a MAJOR set up! I was a sworn Special Law Enforcement Peace Officer at Forest Hill Military Academy/USAC and had worn a weapon since the day I started there 6 months ago. I never had any disciplinary issues, just like my military career.

    I was told by ‘COL’ Joe Land on Thursday that weapons were going to be banned on campus. I immediately said ‘if that’s the case, I quit’. He stated ‘Don’t do that, we’ll discuss it later’. An email was put out to all personnel that weapons were banned on post. I never had a ‘work’ email and didn’t read this email right away. Rather than ‘discussing it with me later’, the Kentucky State Police were called to arrest someone with a weapon on post.

    More to come later…

  27. Really???? says:

    To Air Cav?

    You are just trying to get the truth out there? By using inept research and without the use of actual military service records? Do you normally go public so ill-prepared? I think this matter should be addressed only by the officials investigating not someone with nothing better to do than to try and blindly find fault against others. As a friend of SGT Haab I am fully aware of his service to this country including a tour in Kuwait and one in Kosovo with full accommodations for outstanding service.

  28. Jonn Lilyea says:

    My inbox is empty. But that phrase “I mistakenly said Iraq when I meant Kuwait and said Special Forces when I meant Special Operations” is pretty damning in the interim.

    Sock puppet Haab

  29. SGT HAAB says:

    @28 If you were just rushed by 6 illegal aliens in the middle of a desert, would you be able to articulate everything perfectly?

  30. SGT HAAB says:

    And no, I’m not posting under anything but ‘SGT HAAB’ My friend, sitting across the room is however and I wouldn’t piss my friend off because they give not a shit.

  31. SGT HAAB says:

    Go ahead and Google my name and it’ll pull up false news reports of ‘shocking new evidence’ and ‘the truth about SGT Haab’. Go to the source for fuck’s sake

  32. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    @27. Okay, dickweed, have it your own way. I tried to be nice but you want to be a prick. Read all of the comments a-hole and you will notice that mine inquired only HOW Aaab could be in and out of the NG and reserves so quiockly. So, go screw yourself. You had the opportunity to respond to one person here willing to try a reasonable exchange and you flubbed that all kinds of up. Did I tell you yet to go screw yourself?

  33. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    So, Haab. Is that your ‘tude too, same as Weally’s?

  34. Really???? says:

    Who is Weally? If you are implying me I do not have an attitude only an educated outlook on not bashing people publicly.

  35. Jonn Lilyea says:

    Still waiting for your “research” that I should have done. the only thing I have is an email telling me how you’re going to send me something.

  36. SGT HAAB says:

    @33, somewhat but not to such an extent. Working on getting my DD214 scanned now, hopefully it’ll let me attach it somehow…f

  37. Scotty says:

    # 30 HAAB. 1. Stop calling yourself Sgt. Your FOIA clearly shows that you was only a PVT ( E- 2) 2. Stop claiming that you was in any foreign country because your 2-1 file clearly shows that you wasn’t. 3. Stop claiming that you served 6 years in the Army because your FOIA clearly shows that you only served a max. of 12 months in the NG & Reserves. How do I know this? We had your name ,current address & SSN # when we filed a sf-180 form on you. Your a POS liar that has been busted. Now either produce a letter of apology for your lies & stand down from your embellishments or STFU !

  38. SGT HAAB says:

    @35 I sent you an e-mail???

  39. SGT HAAB says:

    Hey Scotty, how about you SHUT THE FUCK UP! You obviously only got part of my records.

  40. SGT HAAB says:

    I originally joined the NG as an E2, got discharged and joined the Reserves where I was promoted to E5. Rather than bash, how about you wait for me to provide records. Low life POS

  41. Hondo says:

    In case anyone hadn’t figured it out yet: the individuals posting as “Really????” and “SGT HAAB” are posting from the same IP address. My guess is that we have another case of a

  42. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    @34. Well, Weally, I do not know what an educated outlook is and, thus far, you are the only one who has been bashed. The other material seems to have come from the government that Haab appears to have served as a National Guardsman for two months. You two keep talking and saying nothing. Have you threatened the lawsuit yet? Have you attributed the absence of recodrs to administrative error yet? Have you promised, yet, to forward the records that substantiate claims of some additional service? I see that you did blame the leftists, as if that’s going to carry some currency here. It does not. In short, you two are hitting all of the prerequisites for running the BULLSHIT flag up the pole, followed by a snappy salute.

  43. Scotty says:

    Discharged from the NG with less than 3 months & then joined the reserves for 9 months making e-5 & then discharged ? We have what is on file from the NPRC on you stupid.Please produce a dd-214 showing more than what your FOIA shows. I’ll make sure the FBI gets a copy of your forged document/s

  44. Really???? says:

    Yes, when you are on the same wireless network, you’ll have the same IP adress. Want my physical address if you have a problem with it?

    • Hondo says:

      Yes, they do. Especially when they’re coming over the same BellSouth DSL connection originating in Winchester, KY.

      And no, I don’t need the physical address. I haven’t lost anything there.

      DSL connections are typically, but not exclusively, residential locations. So I’ll stick by my guess of “sock puppet” – or a buddy acting as same.

  45. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    E-5 over, what, 3-4 months? Wow! That’s amazing. It usually takes a good 5-6 months to make E-5 nowadays!

  46. Really???? says:

    Hey Scotty, haven’t you already been told to SHUT THE FUCK UP??? You’ll be reported to the FBI for defamation, dumb fuck

  47. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    “How about doing some REAL research on updated records…I’ll post them if possible. Already e-mailed the admin”

    I can’t wait. How the hell does someone make E-5 that quickly?

  48. Scotty says:

    PLEASE report me # 47.

  49. JAGC says:

    There it is…. Never heard of anyone reporting defamation to the FBI before. Please hurry and have your “friend” help scan your proof.

  50. 2-17 Air Cav says:

    Good job, Scotty. You just earned the duo another check on the prerequisite list.

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