Carroll Bryant; phony SEAL

| January 9, 2013 | 160 Comments

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Someone sends us their research on Carroll Bryant who has been pretending to be a SEAL. According to the guy who sent this stuff and did most of the investigating, Bryant has been claiming to be a SEAL for years. And now that he’s been exposed as a liar, of course, its because the Navy had to “erase” his records, to wit (if you can read it);

when my career ended, there were several security issues surrounding my service and what had happened on a specific op… i (and the govt went through great legnths to ensure i was “erased” from specop service..i at time went along with…due to my becoming disenfranchised by things we all had learned our govt was into… during our service…i have always held that i am not responsible to validate myself in any regard to any person..i know what and who i am..and you or any other person can take that at face value of the alternative(ur choice)

Don Shipley says he’s not a SEAL, along with a couple of other phony hunters. From his records, it looks like Bryant spent about six months in the Navy as an E-3. But his FOIA lacks the forms we’re accustomed to seeing. So I’m betting on Don Shipley in this one.

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ADDED his FOIA from Scotty;

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  1. sailbeach says:

    CORRECTION: Official Military Personnel Files (OMPF) – for veterans with a discharge date of 1951 or prior.* Are available. For non-archival OMPFs for veterans with a discharge date of 1952 or after until 1976.

  2. JP says:

    “WE ARE INVESTIGATING ANY MEMBER ACTIVE OR NOT WHO HAVE BEEN VIOLATING PRIVACY ACT OF FELLOW ACTIVE MEMBERS OR VETERANS UNDER THE PREMISE OF ESPIONAGE AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA; UNDER THE COUNTER-TERRORISM CODIFIED LAWS. THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER NOTICES.”

    If I only had a dollar for each of the times I’ve read things this on this site…

  3. Green Thumb says:

    Sailbeach is a turd.

  4. NHSparky says:

    So does this count as a threat by him to contact his “lawer” and sue us all for liebelslander?

    Hold your tickets, people.

  5. sailbeach says:

    Please be aware of the United States v. Alvarez the U.S. Supreme Court ruled on June 28, 2012, that the Stolen Valor Act was an unconstitutional abridgment of the freedom of speech under the First Amendment, striking down the law in a 6 to 3 decision. In your zest for whatever, you are violating Federal Law. Under the law people pretty much can claim what they want, there is very little you can do about it legally. Pursuing these people can be considered a violation of their constitutional rights, which makes anyone pursuing these people, even imposters personally libel for invasion of privacy, stalking or even espionage. Under the Counter-Terrorism provisions, many members are not listed in MILPERS under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 (Pub.L. 97-200, 50 U.S.C. §§ 421–426). Not all SF and Intelligence personnel fall under these provision, but just the same they are enforced equally under the law. Ignorance of these provisions is not an excuse to escape prosecution, not only from the United States Government, but Civil Prosecution for invasion on the privacy of a United States Citizens Constitutional Rights. Going derogatory against an AGENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS NOT HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. As previously stated, ignorance of the laws of the United States of America however noble your cause is not an excuse for avoiding investigation and prosecution. YOU HAVE BEEN DULY ADVISED UNDER THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

  6. JAGC says:

    This guy conveys the online “legal” equivalent of a message from a Nigerian prince.

  7. O-4E says:

    Sailbeach…you are so full of shit….oooohhh…we are so scared…

    Notice none of these phonies have ever brought a case?

    I am sure harrassing child molesters is illegal too

  8. kp32 says:

    @46, 50, 51, and 56…

    @ 45 you state ‘THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER NOTIFICATIONS’

    Besides the poor grammar, how do you expect to be taken seriously if you don’t even read your own messages?

  9. Green Thumb says:

    “Going derogatory against an AGENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS NOT HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.”

    Priceless.

    Sailbeach, you turd you, have you met “Ranger” Burrell?

  10. Ex-PH2 says:

    Beachedwhale, absorb this: we all know WHO you are and WHAT you are doing.

    The only seal you could possibly be is an elephant seal. And that’s an insult to elephant seals.

    I have a frying pan with your name on it, fat boy.

  11. Watches beachedseal flounder about. Going to pop some popcorn and tuna in to watch.

  12. OWB says:

    And we are “liable” to just spend the rest of the day pointing and laughing.

    Idiot.

  13. Ex-PH2 says:

    The only thing I’m afraid of is that he might sit on me by mistake.

  14. Jonn Lilyea says:

    “Under the law people pretty much can claim what they want, there is very little you can do about it legally.”

    Yeah, dingus retarded fuck, and under the law we can point and laugh at your ignorant ass as much as we want. That 1st Amendment right goes both ways. we’re not doing anything about it legally, we’re just making it public knowledge that you’re a fake fuck.

    And, oh, by the way, there’s nothing that we can do that “can be considered a violation of their constitutional rights” since the Bill of Rights protects you from the federal government, not from us regular citizens. You really need to talk to a lawyer before you start pretending to be one on the internet. You’re as much a lawyer as you are a SEAL.

  15. kp32 says:

    @56- If you’re going to use U.S. v Alvarez to justify your lies and somehow believe that it protects you from being publicly exposed, I suggest that you read it:

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/11-210d4e9.pdf

    “If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence”

    “examination of a false statement (even if made deliberately to mislead) can promote a form of thought that ultimately helps realize the truth.”

    Xavier Alvarez’s many false claims about military service and honors were publicly outed. He was mocked online and his lies were reported to the news media. That’s how things should work: The remedy for false speech is truth.

  16. bpete1969 says:

    ” Pursuing these people can be considered a violation of their constitutional rights, which makes anyone pursuing these people, even imposters personally libel for invasion of privacy, stalking or even espionage.”

    Calling a liar a liar is protected speech under the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The greatest protection against a charge of libel or slander is the truth. If some idiot puts false information out in the public square it is fair game to any that want to question it.

    “Going derogatory against an AGENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS NOT HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. As previously stated, ignorance of the laws of the United States of America however noble your cause is not an excuse for avoiding investigation and prosecution.”

    Going derogatory against an agent of the United States is again, protected speech under the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. As previously stated by others, your ignorance of law is dwarfed only by your stupidity in all matters military.

    So sailbitch, I can only provide you with the following information and let you decide how you wish to proceed. I got lawyers on retainer that would sue the gold teeth from their own mothers head if they thought they could make a buck off the deal. They are ruthless, vile, mean, underhanded and socially unacceptable….but they are good. Damn good…good enough that I invite you or any other lying piece of crap you want to being with you and sue me. I got deep pockets and all the time in the world to litigate your ass into extreme poverty.

    Put up…or shut up.

  17. Anonymous says:

    At all; Sailbeach is in the crosshairs. He has been telling the same lies and claims of Navy Special Forces on another site and it’s only a matter of time.

  18. OWB says:

    The only thing better than watching a lying piece of crap self destuct is watching an arrogant, lying piece of crap self destruct.

    Or any politician. (Oh, wait – that is rather redundant.)

  19. Hondo says:

    “Sailbeach” is an ignorant idiot.

    The IIPA prohibits the “outing” of clandestine intelligence agents of the US. In general, it doesn’t apply to the military – not even to members of the Special Operations community. Military personnel in general simply won’t qualify as clandestine operatives.

    And in any case, it’s kind of hard to complain you’ve been “outed” under the IIPA when you run around openly advertising the fact that you’re an ex-SEAL. So stuff a sock in it, fool.

    Further, “Sailbeach’s” ignorance about what is and isn’t considered public record information about former military members is laughable. No, dipstick, any records after 1976 aren’t “held by MILPERS”. Further: who physically holds the records is immaterial. By law, NARA (of which NPRC at St Louis is an operational element) has records management responsibility for ALL former service member/veteran personnel records, regardless of where they’re physically maintained, and controls FOIA release of same.

    You might want to take a look here and educate yourself as to what by law – specifically, the FOIA – is considered public domain information and releasable without your consent (I don’t feel like doing a lengthy quote):

    http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel/foia-info.html

    And, for what it’s worth: last time I checked, TAH ain’t a foreign government. So the law you quote and claim applies in comment 46 above – doesn’t.

    Bottom line: no criminal violations here, period. So you’re best advised to quit blowing smoke and making yourself look like an idiot.

    Now, regarding civil suits. You also might want to consider that truth is, in general, an absolute defense in any civil suit for defamation. So if you’re going to threaten a lawsuit, it’s an empty threat unless you can prove deliberate falsehood and malice. Good luck wit dat.

    And, similarly, in general it’s pretty close to impossible to prevail in a suit regarding invasion of privacy if the information disclosed is information that’s publicly available. Like for example something available to anyone who wants to file a FOIA concerning military records.

  20. Anonymous says:

    How in the wide, wide world of sports did I miss this thread? Yowza. Well, I’m glad there’s life in it because the Falcons/49ers game may be a blow out and it’s too damn windy to do much outside. Sailfish is funny. I like his stuff. He is, to be sure, a drooler and sports a leather helmet but, nonetheless, he has earned all manner of disdain. I’m wondering if he’s the other guy in the first pic. And I’m sure bling-bling with the Rolex watch hanging from his neck is a the real deal, just like his accessories. I’m guessing by his cap that he played football for the Wolverines too. What a guy!

  21. Anonymous says:

    Yeah, I’m anonymous again. Guess who.

  22. NHSparky says:

    Weapons free, weapons free. Fire control has a firing solution. Weapons are warmed, tubes 1 through 4 are flooded and equalized and ready in all respects.

    Match generated bearings and shoot.

    Dis gun b gud.

  23. Ex-PH2 says:

    Are you shooting normal or test?

  24. NHSparky says:

    I’m just waiting for this turd to come in and try something else.

    He’s a SB1–Shitbag, First Class.

  25. HMCS(FMF) Ret says:

    Sailbeach = ASSCLOWN!

  26. MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) says:

    Yo sailbeach, what is the penalty for outing a dirt sucking scum bucket like you? Friggin’ moron!

    In addition, there is no “Navy Special Forces” it is called Naval Special Warfare, comprising of SO, SB, and variety of support tech ratings. I served in the community for over 10 years. You on the other hand did not.

    In summary go “F” yourself!

  27. Redacted1775 says:

    Guess Sailbitch never read the words of the great Senior Chief Don Shipley: “There are secret missions, however there is no such thing as a secret SEAL.” Fuckin’ turd burglar.

  28. O-4E says:

    Hey Carroll…aka Sailbeach

    You should hook up with our buddy Stephen Franklin Cio Burrell

    http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=29679

    Together you two could form a anti-phony buster duo

  29. Green Thumb says:

    @76 and @78.

    “Fucking Turd Burglar” and “Ass Clown”.

    Old school. I love it.

    @79.

    Love the “Ranger” Burrell” additive…

    Fuck yeah!

    Carroll, your a felching, extra turd shitbag motherfucking maggot.

    In the IN, nobody listens to you unless you swear every other word or are creative.

    Translated: I am an artist and profanity is my canvas.

  30. AverageNCO says:

    Okay, sailbeach is reminding me of the Damon Wayans character from In Living Color. The one that was a prisoner who tried to spout off all sort of big words to sound important, but made absolutely no sense.
    Sailbeach, no matter how matter how many big paragraphs you cut and paste, you can’t undo your first post.
    In post 33 you made reference to “Navy Special Forces”. Phonies often neglect to do all their research. “Special Forces” is a term unique to the Army. All branches have Special Operations, of which the the “Special Forces” fall under. So cut-and-paste away Sailbeach, you will continue to be irrelevant.

  31. Twist says:

    @80, Us grunts use the F-bomb like the Smurfs use “smurf”.

  32. Jacobite says:

    I notice sailbitch appears to have shut his cock holster and pulled stakes. Fuckin loser.

  33. NHSparky says:

    Oh, trust me, another day, another sockpuppet.

    He’ll be back.

  34. RandomNCO says:

    @84, he probably ran out of bullshit legal mumbojumbo to copy and paste.

  35. Ex-PH2 says:

    Probably has something else stuck in his piehole, like a double-size BigMac and supersize disenfrenchfried fries.

  36. USMCE8Ret says:

    Fuckin unbelieveable.

  37. Steve Tobe says:

    I hear the liars club needs a new president.

  38. NHSparky says:

    Wow. Two whole days and no threats from Douchey McAteaseal.

    The quality of poseur is slipping a bit of late.

  39. Ex-PH2 says:

    I’m still afraid of him. He might sit on me because he can’t see anything past his fat ass.

  40. Hondo says:

    Don’t worry, Ex-PH2. You’d hear his back-up alarm going “beep . . . beep . . . beep” in plenty of time to move. (smile)

  41. Ex-PH2 says:

    (CONTINUOUS GIGGLING FROM MY CORNER)

  42. Anonymous says:

    The other dude in the pic is not Carlos. I went to school with both Carroll and the other dude that will remain nameless. That pic was taken at our H.S. reunion. Carlos continues to yap his secret squrrel on; https://www.facebook.com/groups/29405909757/
    It’s an open group that tends to attract a ton of posers that are easily outed.

  43. Mustang says:

    So, since we’re on the subject. Sailbeach’s real name is Carlos Alcocer.

    http://www.sbnation.com/users/sailbeach/blog
    https://twitter.com/sailbeach65

    Does that mean I’m going to jail? I hope so.

  44. Hondo says:

    Carlos Alcocer? Not a common name at all. Might be enough for an NPRC FOIA records “hit”.

    Only one way to find out . . . .

  45. Mustang says:

    He’s also using the last name “Bunker” on his FB profile: https://www.facebook.com/calcocerbunker

  46. MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) says:

    Dr. Carlos Alcocer
    @sailbeach65
    Former US Navy Special Forces; Artist, Photographer, Cinematographer, Journalist, Writer, Scientist, Family in USA since 1632.

    Wesley Chapel, FL

    Navy Special Forces … NOT!
    Artist + Photographer = Ghey!
    Cinematographer = Porn!
    Yeah Right … Friggin Scientist!
    Journalist + Writer = Tweets
    Spreading BS in the original 13 colonies since 1632!

  47. DetCord says:

    @ Mustang

    I’m looking into him right now.

  48. Hondo says:

    FOIA will go in the mail in the next 15 min or so.

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