Feinstein’s gun ban introduced
Well, we knew it was coming – Senator Diane Feinstein that moron foisted upon us by the fruits and nuts in California introduced her new updated version of what everyone is calling an Assault Weapon Ban. From The Hill;
“I have worked on this for a long time,” said Feinstein in an interview with USA Today. “I’m not a newcomer or a novice to guns.
“The NRA sort of specialized in trying to denigrate me, but I don’t think there’s anyone around that’s spent 20 years on this subject, plus some,” she added.
Says the woman who bans bayonet lugs and belt fed semi-automatic rifles. That will make us all safer, won’t it?
Here’s a photo someone took of the list of weapons that she’s banning. looks like they finally got the Mini-14, but I don’t see any Glocks on the list, maybe these old eyes missed the most dangerous weapon in the history of firearms. I blew it up so you you’ll have to click a couple of times to read it;
USAToday says this is the essence of her bill;
Ban the sale, transfer, importation or manufacturing of about 150 named firearms, plus certain rifles, handguns and shotguns fitted for detachable magazines and having at least one military characteristic.
Strengthen the 1994 ban by moving from a two- to a one-characteristic test to determine what constitutes an assault weapon.
Ban firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons.”
Ban the importation of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines.
Ban high-capacity ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.
I wonder how many thumbhole stocks have been used in crimes. I’m still trying to figure out WTF a “bullet button” is. Now the USAToday article says that Feinstein’s ban grandfathers weapons owned on the day that the ban begins, but we all know that she said initially that she wanted complete registration of grandfathered weapons, but the USAToday article doesn’t mention that fact – I don’t know if she dropped the proposal or if USAToday is just leaving it out for some reason.
Feinstein’s biggest foe in the ban is going to be Harry Reid who stands to lose 19 Democrats in the Senate if there’s repercussions at the ballot box next year. I think it’s too late for him to worry about that. Just all of the talk in the last few weeks have pretty much sealed the fates of those Senators whether the bill passes or not.
Thanks to Old Trooper for the link.
January 24th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Well she has to do something! You know handling the budget is not on her radar!
January 24th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
A bullet button is unique to the Republik of Kalifornia. It’s the mag release on an AR15, but instead of being able to drop the mag by pressing a button you have to insert the tip of a pen, or a bullet, into a recessed opening to hit the release.
Thus, a bullet button. What they want is non-detachable magazines
January 24th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
????? ????
January 24th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
And all of those laws about immigration sure kept the illegals out didn’t they? And laws outlawing heroin, cocaine and meth really put an end to anyone using or selling those substances didn’t they?
January 24th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
Evidently, the comments won’t accept “Molon Labe” in Greek script.
January 24th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
Don’t forget the laws about cheating on your taxes too
January 24th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
I’m thinking they just don’t get enough oxygen in the Capitol building.
January 24th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
Yup, she’s an expert at shitting all over Constitutional rights that specially say “shall not be infringed”. She’s obviously a novice when it comes to literacy otherwise she wouldn’t be bragging about her decades long crusade to illegally ratify the United States Constitution by means of emotion hysteria. Instead she reaps the rewards of these types of weapons that keep her and her liberty hating politicians safe while simultaneously attempting to keep the serf class from reaping the same rewards.
Watch out my Queen. The Serfs are literate.
January 24th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
John, If I’m reading that list right it looks like she got the Ruger Mini-14 Tactical which has folding stock and pistol grip, but not the standard Mini-14 “Ranch Rifle” or M1 Carbine for that matter.
Which just proves it’s all cosmetics not functionality.
January 24th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
Not all of us here in CA are ‘fruits and nuts’ – some of us are pro-gun and hate that wrinkled old bitch like you wouldn’t believe…
January 24th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
So, my Hi-Point 9mm carbine would be an “assault weapon”?
I heartily urge Ms. Feinstein to attempt aerial fornication with a rotationally transiting toroidal pastry.
January 24th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Well, I’m not going to register my guns, so they can go pound sand.
This grandstanding bullshit is likely DOA.
EVERY gun has “one-characteristic test to determine what constitutes an assault weapon,” they all have a barrel from which the bullet is fired.
Morons.
January 24th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
Wait…so somehow they’re going to round up all the existing weapons that fit that profile? How many is that? Tens of thousands? More?
They can’t even find all the fucking guns lost in Fast-n-Fubared. How are they going to round up all the ones ever purchased that fit the profile?
January 24th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
I didn’t call everyone from California “fruits and nuts”. I said she was foisted upon us by the fruits and nuts. If you didn’t vote for her, you didn’t foist her upon us, thus you’re excluded from the label. I have to explain everything to you dickweeds.
January 24th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
@13 it’s millions, American’s own roughly 3.3 million ARs and God knows how many AKs… Good luck rounding them all up.
January 24th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
Supposedly the list is “any semi which accepts a detachable magazine and has one or more of the scary features” – note
the SU16 (which is legal to sell in CA) which has NONE of the features like pistol grip, flash hider, bayonet lug, etc. is also on the list. She is just trying to ban ALL detachable mag semis. FTFO, lady…
January 24th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
@15
Thanks. I figured it was, I was too lazy to Google it, and decided to err on the side of caution.
So how are they going to get all those put into a registry? It’s just not feasible to do so in a timely manner.
January 24th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Permit me to apply my prolific legal training to summarize the Democrat’s thoughtful and judicious approach to the Second Amendment:
BAN. BAN. BAN. BAN. BAN. BAN. BAN. BAN. BAN. BAN. BAN, BAN, BAN, BAN AND BAN.
Then, BAN. BAN. BAN. BAN. BAN. BAN. BAN. BAN. BAN. BAN.
And. . . BAN.
It’s so rational, I wonder why we didn’t think of this 230 years ago?
January 24th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
This is utter bullshit and violates the 2nd Amendment. That argument has to be made, and it has to go to the US Supreme Court. There is so much in there that goes to not just violating the 2nd but others as well.
Forget the fact that “bans” do not work. Forget the 350 murders she claims using “assault weapons”… though I would love to see where she got her numbers as FBI Crime Data does not break it down like that, California by the way with all their bans lead the nation in 2011 with 45 murders committed with a “rifle”. Even further homicide data includes justifiable homicides…
Okay I just heard this asshat claim ammunition that can be bought includes “armor piercing”… Armor Piercing Ammunition can not be bought, sold or traded. It can not be manufactured or imported for civilian use. It can only be purchased by the US Military and Law Enforcement…
January 24th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
I don’t see my SCAR on there!
January 24th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
Oh nevermind… It’s there. Shit.
January 24th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
@13: Libtard logic 101. Can’t round up people who illegally enter the country, get absurd government benefits they don’t pay for, and send the money they make outside of the country. Can go after constitutional right users that broke no laws, finger print them, tax them, and register them.
January 24th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
If I remember from earlier drafts, it also authorizes the AG to add to that list as he or she sees fit. In other words, they can ban any weapon they so choose at a future date.
January 24th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Any guns and mags good enough for Holder to supply to the Mexican drug cartels should be OK for US citizens.
January 24th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Isn’t her husband an arms dealer?
January 24th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
Well, so far, my ballbats and steak knives are not specifically itemized as alleged to be upon some mythical, mystical list of items whose use and/or ownership thereof that the socialist dreamers wish to deprive me. But they will be eventually, no doubt.
Got a question for these loons – since speed kills, should speedometers be eliminated from all cars?
January 24th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
@14. It is true that not everyone “from” is either a fruit or a nut. However, everyone who IS in California is either a fruit or nut, unless one is there in military service. Why? The fruit part is self evident. It’s the nut part that makes the declaration apply to all. One has to be a bona fide nut to live in California.
January 24th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
@25
Yep.
January 24th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
@17 I have no idea, and neither do they… they’re counting on law abiding citizens to abide by the law and register their weapons.
January 24th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
What does our resident Whipping Boy have to say about this?
(Yeah, I know I’m intentionally baiting the troll, sue me)
January 24th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
I’m just glad to see that my A&P57 is not on that list.
See, while you all are whimpering ‘not my guns’, I’m thinking that first, DiFi has to get it past the filibustering that is likely to take place, and then passed, which may not be as easy as she says, and there is all that “I’m not a newcomer to guns” (meaning I have guns but I don’t want you to have them) crap, and after all, people, elections are not too far off.
And you have to remember that it’s quite easy for arms manufacturers to get around this by simply renaming their stock.
Besides me, who knows what an A&P57 is?
January 24th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
@30, He’s too busy making love to himself over the list of guns Feinstein wants to ban.
January 24th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
@31, Knowing your love of photography I’m willing to bet that it is some sort of camera.
January 24th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
I just read this list.
Thank God, the Daisy Red Ryder BB Gun is not on the list.
When my six year old son recently heard all the blathering about guns he said, “from my chilly and chubby not alive hands”.
January 24th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
OK, so is it just me, or does that look like a shopping list? I don’t own any of those weapons and am feeling a bit left out.
January 24th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
So, assuming for a second that this passes, are current weapons grandfathered, or are they turned in?
January 24th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
@34 wait until Washington figures out that it’s got a 200 round capacity.
January 24th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
Jebeebus! I just saw a pic of Feinstein. She has more pancake on her mug than you can find at IHOP.
January 24th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
A total ban is unconstitutional but the current Supreme Court will have no problem with a prohibition against certain weapons that are deemed by them as firearms not in common use. Don’t ask that question. They haven’t defined the term. A challenge will come, to be sure, but first there must be a law to be challenged. The court must remain silent until then and cannot issue ‘advisory’ opinions.
January 24th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
@33 – No, it is an Antipov & Putin 57 semiautomatic hand-carried Gatling gun. It weighs 15 pounds, carries 40 pounds of bullets in a canister, or can be fired with a loaded ammo belt. It does not have a ‘bullet button’, but it does have a quicksnap locking load/unload bracket for convenience. It also has a gun camera with a 300x magnifier, for checking accuracy in shooting at a target, and the bayonet is kept in either a sheath on the side or in the stock, where it should be.
And who are Antipov & Putin, you ask? Well, Antipov is the last name of Pavel Antipov, also known as Strelnikov (The Killer) in “Dr. Zhivago”, and Putin is the last name of Vlad Putin.
Now, where can you buy this magnificent beast? Only in my vivid imagination.
January 24th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
ROFLMAO, this has to be my favorite quote from DiFi’s dog and pony show:
“If they’re not in the stores, they can’t be bought…” -Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY):
Right, I’m guessing Rep. McCarthy has never heard of prohibition or the war drugs? Idiot!
January 24th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
Ex-PH2: and here I thought they’d started selling a generic version of Heinz 57 at A&P grocery stores that contained mucho habanero. (smile)
January 24th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
Hondo: Well, there is that, too, but I prefer specifics over generic any day of the week.
January 24th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
OK, then try “Scorned Woman Hot Sauce” instead. Yes, it actually exists. (smile)
January 24th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
oil sack and waterproof continers selling very well. Some new air tight containers and moisture sucking stuff available also. Reminds me of when the feds came out here looking for the posse guys.
January 24th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
How about “Smakk My Ass” hot sauce, some place down in Luzianne. (Yes, 2 ks)
January 24th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
Ex-PH2: that one would probably work too. (smile)
January 24th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
She has used that “I have worked on this for a long time” line a few times recently in referring to her gun-grab bill. It’s as if she thinks her working on it (whatever that means, since no legislator writes legislation), somehow gives it instant validity or entitles her to something. Maybe it’s just that she shocked herself by working on anything other than placating the nuts and fruits in bizzaroland.
January 24th, 2013 at 5:40 pm
“I have worked on this for a long time.”
Oh, look. She has a hobby. How quaint.
January 24th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
Working on something is important when you have an obssession, especially when you have control issues.
January 24th, 2013 at 6:11 pm
Feinstein is clearly not a viewer of the show “1000 Ways to Die”, most of which do not include firearms. In fact, quite a few of the victims (mostly Darwin Award recipients) probably wished they had been offed by a gun instead of the method they used.
I’m particularly fond of the drunk Russian who tried to have sex with a raccoon, had his penis bitten off, and bled to death.
January 24th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
Go ahead and introduce your bill DiFi, and then watch it die in the House. I’m just pissed that morons like this are driving up prices. And not that I’m advocating violence, but I think it would be hilarious/ironic if one of these evil looking gun ban morons was shot but another left wing whack job using a revolver, bolt action deer rifle or a break open single shot shotgun
January 24th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
@19: Not true on the ammunition. I have purchased M855 LAP ammunition off the store shelves on numerous occasions. Also, most commie ammo is steel core.
January 24th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
Depending on how you read the line for the Ruger Mini-14, it would appear that (with no semicolon separating “Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rifle M14/20CF”) it appears that the M1A and M14 are off the hook.
January 24th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
@52 I disagree. I hope they die quietly in their beds at some ridiculous old age. If one politician gets whacked with anything that even remotely resembles a gun, our right to keep and bear arms is going to be toast. Not that it isn’t anyway, but it will happen faster if one of the ruling elite gets it.
January 24th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
I wish a reporter would ask these people if they recognize a right to self defense and the means with which to perform it. Doubt we would get a straight answer from any of them.
Also I’m tired of the high capacity magazine crap. I believe a law abiding citizen should decide for himself what he needs. Once a self defense situation begins you need enough firepower to defeat the threat. A southern Arizona rancher might run into a drug convoy on his land and “need” a couple of thirty round magazines.
January 24th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
Didi Dina went to a lot of trouble to list every gun she could think of. What that says about her is that she is somewhat obsessive compulsive and has control issues.
However, any gun manufacturer can slap any designation it wants to on any weapon. Since that list is so specific, it’s only a matter of changing the specific names of products.
January 24th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
Well, damn!! All three of my Eeeeeevile Black Rifles are outlawed therein. My Kar98 would still be legal as would my Springfield 03A3, both of whom have killed more humans than any of my Eeeeevile Black Rifles.
If Ted Kennedy’s Oldsmobile was still around, would it qualify as a “lethel weapon”?
Interesting times.
January 24th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
@40, I took a shot in the dark.
January 24th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
@54 This: http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14TacticalRifle/specSheets/5846.html is the Mini-14 variant named in bill… The other non-scary looking, non-evil black rifle variants aren’t listed.
Which just proves it’s all about the cosmetics, not the functionality.
January 24th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
@60 – Looking at that, give it a pink or electric blue paint job, replace the pistol grip with a comfortable banana-shaped suede handle, put a lovely burled maple wooden or mother of pearl stock on it, and some tassels. Then it becomes a girlie weapons that could not possibly do anyone any harm.
Also, rename it the Mamas19th Peashooter.
January 24th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
A bullet button is a lock on the magazine release of an AR-15. It requires you to use a key to release and seat a magazine…. these have been a way that Californians have used to get around the 2-characteristic test with their ARs… being that it no longer allows magazine to be readily exchanged
January 24th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
After reflection, I think this is a carefully crafted tactic. Joeeeeee Biden says “I’m for better background checks and limiting high-cap mags” while Feinstein looks like a wild-eye’d radical by comparison. That witch ain’t running in 2016…. but he sure as hell is. She gets everyone all wound up and in a ‘outta my cold dead hands’ lather by pushing a ban of damn near everything – which even SHE admits she probably won’t get, then he steps in, sounds all Presidential, pushing something that sounds like (by comparison) a reasonable compromise… and the banners get what they want, elimination of high cap mags. We’re being played, and buying into it.
January 24th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
Problem is, even if she is running, she’s safe.
I’d like to see what Jeanne Shaheen and some of the other Dems who are up in 2014 have to say about this proposal.
I’m guessing crickets would be the order of the day.
January 24th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
Bait-&-switch or not, what part of the word N-O do you not understand??
Bitch!
January 25th, 2013 at 3:10 am
Ironic that she would introduce anti-gun legislation in a building protected by people with guns.
“I’m guessing crickets would be the order of the day.”
In public, yes. In private, something along the lines of “What the hell are you trying to do to us?!”
January 25th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
In case anyone is interested, she actually DID introduce the bill yesterday. Been watching and it had not been posted earlier today but finally is:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d113:140:./list/bss/d113SN.lst:@@@L&summ2=m&
Interesting (no surprises) cosponsors.
Also note that as of this moment, the text has still not been posted. But it has been referred to Judiciary.