Chris Kyle; RIP

Since I knew about it before most people, you’d think I’d have dealt with it by now. But I haven’t. I’ve been staring at an empty screen for more than two hours wondering what I could write. I never met Chris Kyle, but after reading his book, you get a sense that you have met him.

But, last night, I got a call from someone who wanted us to help the police find Kyle’s killer. I was stunned when he gave me the news. I have no idea who it was that called, but he had access to police message traffic, so, you know, I can guess. So I called the sheriff’s department and they confirmed for me that the incident had indeed happened, but they wouldn’t confirm that Kyle was involved.

But, anyway, I guess they caught Eddie Routh, Kyle’s killer. According to some of our Marines with access to the Marines On Line database, Routh is a corporal and a unit armorer and currently in the Individual Ready Reserve – that status you do before you get out of the service.

According to Fox News, Routh was apprehended near Lancaster, TX at about 9:30 local time last night after shooting Kyle and his neighbor in the back and fleeing the scene in a pickup belonging to one of his victims, according to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

Now, if you don’t want to get pissed off, you should stop reading here. I cruised over the Huffington Post and read some of the comments those tiny-brained morons were leaving and, of course, it’s all about gun control and veterans. And of course, they tell us that Kyle’s death was karma for killing more than 150 insurgents. Twitchy logged some of the “tweets” from the Leftist ghouls yesterday celebrating the death and standing on his body for their political agenda.

Here’s an example;

Kyle Tweets

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418 Responses to “Chris Kyle; RIP”

  1. 1
    Joe Says:

    When a guy who is about as much of an expert on guns as it is possible to be, and he can’t even protect himself from gun violence, well so much for you “armed society is a peaceful society”.

  2. 2
    brat Says:

    I am having trouble wrapping my brain cell and my heart around this one, and yes, am avoiding the ignorant disprespectful POS’s dancing on this one.

    Instead I am choosing to remember Chris Kyle with gratitude, and sorrow.

    Soar through the heavens, Chris.

  3. 3
    Jonn Lilyea Says:

    Fuck you, Joe. Seriously. Fuck. You.

  4. 4
    Rob Says:

    RIP, Chris.

  5. 5
    Robert Says:

    Die puking blood, Joe.

  6. 6
    Rob Says:

    Typical, Joe. Dancing on graves to further your agenda. People like you make me sick.

  7. 7
    john Miska Says:

    Died tying to do something not sitting on the sidelines…a warrior to the end….trying not to leave another behind…..God Bless….

  8. 8
    AGirl Says:

    I have never read a single awful comment from a gun owner when an innocent life is lost. What kind of human wishes for or rejoices at the murder of another?

    How unbelievably classless and disgusting.

  9. 9
    Hondo Says:

    Kinda hard to protect oneself from getting shot in the back by someone, Joe. But you knew that, you sonofabitch.

    There’s only a short list of people on this earth on whom I’d wish terminal cancer. You’re working hard to get on that list.

  10. 10
    Just Plain Jason Says:

    Joe this is one of those times you are lucky that you are protected by the safety of the internet. I guarantee you would not walk into a room full of mourning vets and say the same damn thing. You would be lucky to make it out alive. Some people just aren’t born with good sense and you are one of them.

  11. 11
    Joe Says:

    At least they caught the guy, but small consolation.

  12. 12
    68W58 Says:

    The comments over at the Dallas Morning News article on Kyle’s death will also make you weep for humanity.

    Joe-you can’t even get the quote correct, it’s “an armed society is a polite society”, but I get that accuracy and integrity are not your strong points. Chris Kyle went out of his way to try and help vets who suffered from PTSD. God knows why this lunatic shot him, but his willingness to try and help others speaks volumes about him. I don’t expect lefties, who suffer from the delusion that nanny can somehow make it all better, to appreciate real risk or sacrifice since their entire worldview is that of the coddled child. There aren’t enough “fuck yous” I can throw in your direction.

  13. 13
    Joe Says:

    Hondo,

    Already had cancer, whether it’s terminal or not is still to be determined, so save your bad wishes. I AM sorry about this crime, but maybe when you have grieved for a while you might consider the implications.

  14. 14
    Old Trooper Says:

    Joe, you have finally fucked yourself royally. I hope when your time comes, you go with severe pain and anguish. I hope that there is no one there to comfort you and that the last face you see is mine as I monkey stomp your vagina as your eyes close for the last time. You are a fucking waste of oxygen.

    Jonn, please ban this motherfucker, or I might get in trouble for what I will say next.

  15. 15
    Indiana Ed Says:

    Joe, a gun is a tool, not a talisman. It is neither guaranteed to save you nor utterly useless in every situation, no matter your training or armament. Especially when you are flat out ambushed at close range by someone you trust. I had hoped that would just be common sense. Now if you really want to see a “useless tool”, find a goddamn mirror.

  16. 16
    68W58 Says:

    What “implications” you cockholster? That a tragedy should compel us to surrender our rights? Yep, never considered (and rejected) that line of (let’s just charitably call it) “reasoning” before. Chris Kyle’s death is convenient for your agenda, and we can hardly expect ghouls like yourself not to dance on graves, but a great part of being free is accepting the risks inherent in that condition. It’s infinitely better than the alternative though and I’m pretty sure that Chris Kyle would agree with me here.

  17. 17
    Joe Says:

    I am sorry for your loss. I’ll leave you in peace. You don’t need me to tell you 2+2 = 4.

  18. 18
    COB6 Says:

    Trust me folks, Old Joe is a junior league troll compared to what is being said at:
    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/headlines/20130203-chris-kyle-record-holding-sniper-as-navy-seal-killed-in-double-slaying-at-erath-county-gun-range.ece

    Here’s a sample:
    “This piece of shit deserved to die. Now his children will know the pain of being an orphan. Just as Chris Kyle, hired killer created so many orphans in Iraq.

    I spit on his fucking grave, no doubt the little military welfare queen will get a funeral paid for by Joe Taxpayer.”

    Un-Fucking-believable!

  19. 19
    NR Pax Says:

    Joe, what fucking “implications” are you exactly talking about? And given your first damn statement, I don’t believe that you are the least bit sorry about the crime.

  20. 20
    Hondo Says:

    Joe: maybe that was Karma paying you back for dodging the draft and letting others do your dirty work during Vietnam while you stayed home fat, dumb, happy, and safe.

    Work on your reading comprehension, imbecile. I said you were getting close to me wishing you that demise. However, even a despicable dipshit like you hasn’t done quite enough to make it onto that list. Yet.

    But you’re getting real close.

  21. 21
    Tman Says:

    Let me guess good old PTSD made him do it

  22. 22
    Gina Says:

    My heart hurts with this sad news. RIP Chief Kyle, you depart too soon and we are lessened by your loss. My prayers go out to his family and brothers in arms.

  23. 23
    RunPatRun Says:

    Comments from the left only confirm their hateful and loathsome existence. smh

    What Jonn said about the feeling one met him through the words in his book is true. A sad day.

    Rest in Peace.

  24. 24
    Stacy0311 Says:

    hey Joe, here’s hoping you get sodomized by one of your Occupy Stupidity buddies. I’ll stop by an drop an MRE deuce on whatever pauper’s graves section of the cemetary they plant you in.
    Sorry for the Kyle family’s loss

  25. 25
    JP Says:

    Here’s what unhinged libtards on huffpo are saying.

    These comments were so sickening I had to cut some out and compile them

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=14mxpbd&s=6

  26. 26
    PFDRbrendan Says:

    Another hero of our Nation dead this year. If only people would not be so cynical and turn everything into some political rant. The callous nature of these people who spout rancid and deranged thoughts on deaths of those who they do not know sicken me.

    Celebrate his adventurous life as well as the lives he saved by doing his duty and let his family find peace in knowing he is in the Patrol Base in the sky. Hopefully his killer is swiftly brought to justice.

  27. 27
    Cacti35 Says:

    What a tragedy. R.I.P. Chris Kyle. I cannot stand to read the libtards comments, it does nothing more than make my old shingles pain flare up and make me feel like strangling some son of a bitch!

  28. 28
    Hondo Says:

    Sorry for the delay – a certain damned idiot above made me angry enough to forget the main purpose of this article.

    Under the wide and starry sky
    Dig the grave and let me lie:
    Glad did I live and gladly die,
    And I laid me down with a will.

    This be the verse you ‘grave for me:
    “Here he lies where he long’d to be;
    Home is the sailor, home from the sea,
    And the hunter home from the hill.”

    Rest in peace, Chief Kyle – brother in arms. Rest in peace.

  29. 29
    Just Plain Jason Says:

    You know Joe, there are days I wish I could beat you down and there are days I wish I could feel the real shame of what you have said. Today I hope that you feel your shame. Because today you need to realize what you have said. I want you to sit in a spot and think about all the bullshit you espouse. I hope you live long enough to realize how much of a real coward you are willing to hide behind stronger people to protect you, and when one of those stronger people dies you openly mock that person. You are a real winner!

  30. 30
    rb325th Says:

    RIP Chris Kyle, you did your time in Hell now it is your time in peace.

    Joe, your mother should have swallowed the night you were conceived, unfortunately she was taking it in the 4th point and some of your fathers DNA dribbled out, then in again and found its mark.
    You are seriously not even worthy of the effort, but your insults this time toward a dead Hero who died while he was trying to help the man who became his killer….

  31. 31
    Laughing Wolf Says:

    A tragedy, and a loss to us all.

    As for Joe, he is an ignorant boor who is no more sorry at taking a crap on the dining room table with his comment than he is about Chris being dead. His glee at being able to get a reaction, and being the first to post, show the shallowness of his life and spirit. He sought reaction, and may it find him in spades.

    Godspeed Chris. May the light shine on those you leave behind.

  32. 32
    dnice Says:

    We have lost a great Man and warrior – RIP Chris.

  33. 33
    Doc Says:

    At least this happened in Texas where justice is still served. PTSD is no excuse, speaking from someone who deals with it.

  34. 34
    BohicaTwentyTwo Says:

    Yon is saying something is fishy with the reporting. Supposedly, the murder occurred at a lodge that happens to have a firing range, he wasn’t necessarily killed at the range as the media is reporting.

  35. 35
    Eggs Says:

    I just can’t bring myself down to wallowing in the shit some are saying – I see enough of that in the local rag (Arizona Daily Star). I think I’ll head down to the Trident this week and have a pint of Guinness and a shot of Jamesons in honor of the Chief.

  36. 36
    Devtun Says:

    I smell an insanity defense by this POS once he lawyers up.

  37. 37
    Hondo Says:

    Yon said something? “Idgac, idgas, idgaf.”

  38. 38
    Tman Says:

    Insanity caused by PSD

  39. 39
    SteveS Says:

    The comments at the Washington Post are just as bad. This guy was a bona fide American hero who chose to stay in the stream of life trying to help others struggling with the aftermath of war. The despicable clowns on the Left gloating over his untimely demise are beyond belief. Let no one mistake what it is we are up against: the descent of our once proud nation into a “collective” of whiners, graspers, and entitlement specialists. The Liberal agenda is in the midst of a betrayal of this country the likes of which the nation may not survive.
    To have some “cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs” Libtard air-assault into this thread, posting his bile, is almost too much to bear.
    Joe: die in the gutter as REAL Americans walk by while spitting on you.
    RIP SEAL.

  40. 40
    Gruntling Says:

    RIP Chris Kyle. One less hero is among us today. Here’s hoping he’s in a better place.

    Joe, I’m sorry. I’m sorry that you feel the way you do. I’m sorry that you don’t seem to care that the point you’re making is on two mens graves. I’m sorry that you don’t seem to understand why we all are getting so upset in reaction to you politicizing these murders. I’m sorry that your first response isn’t grief, or sorrow, or sympathy, but self-righteousness.

    But most of all, I’m sorry that someday you’ll remember this, and realize exactly what you said and did. And our anger will make sense to you. I hope you can live with that.

  41. 41
    A_Proud_Infidel Says:

    Joe, when your time comes, they should just place your remains in a septic tank, that’s where SHIT like you belongs.

    RIP Chris Kyle, enjoy Heaven, you’ve done your time in hell.

  42. 42
    PALADIN Says:

    Geez what a friggin tradgedy.
    He survived so much and now this.

    I read those comments on HuffPo and Twtitchy , and one thing i will say, is these worthless Liberal turds like to talk about karma .
    Well they better prepare for it coming their way , after the hate they have spewed against this Great American.

    R.I.P. Chris, and know we will remember.

  43. 43
    Common Sense Says:

    I’m still in shock, it was the first thing I thought of when I woke up.

    Like you said Jonn, I didn’t know him, but after reading his book and watching interviews, I felt that I knew him. Such a good man, what a tragic loss for his family and for the rest of us.

    Killed in a cowardly manner by someone he was trying to help. My God.

    RIP Chris.

  44. 44
    John11B Says:

    That anyone could think his death is deserved uncovers sad truths about the people that say them, not Chris Kyle. He had the courage, fortitude and skill to do his job for a decade and then get out and give back to fellow warriors and help them heal. His death is a tragedy and depite what the media and other idiots will say, PTSD was not the reason this guy killed them. He was just an asshole. As for the people celebrating Kyle’s death or capitalizing on it for their agenda, that is more of a mental illness than any kind of PTSD and they are the tryp of people society should truely be concerned about.

  45. 45
    Common Sense Says:

    I refuse to read ANY comments by the evil Left regarding Chris. He fought for their right and ability to say such filth and they don’t deserve the attention.

  46. 46
    John11B Says:

    *type

  47. 47
    BohicaTwentyTwo Says:

    Yon may be a special kind of crazy, but facts are facts. CNN is already playing up the angle of a 2nd Amendment supporter killed by one of their own. They barely mention his work with troubled vets. I’m not chocking this thing up to a conspiracy just yet. More likely, just people using their inherent biases to try to explain a terrible act that defies comprehension. More facts will come out as time goes on. All of us, especially Chris deserve the truth.

  48. 48
    John11B Says:

    #45 good idea. I made the mistake of reading a few in the Dallas Morning News and now I think I have just lost my desire to eat lunch. There are some sad, awful people out there.

  49. 49
    Common Sense Says:

    Routh has been charged with capital murder:

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/03/former-soldier-charged-with-capital-murder-in-the-death-of-chris-kyle/

    The other man he murdered was Chad Littlefield.

  50. 50
    Anonymous Says:

    Jesus H. Christ. While Joe may be a moron of the highest (or lowest?) degree, wishing death, terminal cancer, etc., on someone is actually worse than someone making inopportune comments about gun control. Let’s keep talk away from the conspiracy ideas, Joe’s idiocy and anger at ‘leftists’ and keep it where it should be – on Chris, his service, his life and his family and friends.

  51. 51
    George P. Says:

    Chris Kyle was a personal inspiration to me. It is very true how simply after reading his book it was if he was a friend of yours, when I heard the news I was devestated. Perhaps what infuriates me more than anything are sorry excuse for humans called leftists who are enjoying this. Frankly I hope they all go fuck themselves.

  52. 52
    pete Says:

    RIP Chris Kyle

  53. 53
    streetsweeper Says:

    RIP, Chief Kyle. Never knew him, but hearing and reading what little I did of his exploits on the battlefield earned him a spot real high on my respect list. John11B, “tryp” er tripe works quite well for describing the loony tunes because they have no type and class they can be fit in. Joe “troll”, since I know you won’t be staying away. I repeat, Fuck you, Joe. Seriously, Fuck you.

  54. 54
    Old Trooper Says:

    @44: Very well said.

  55. 55
    kp32 Says:

    Any idea of the motive? Billy the Kid syndrome?

  56. 56
    Zero Ponsdorf Says:

    “Fair winds and following seas and long may your big jib draw!”

    RIP Chief.

  57. 57
    Powerpoint Ranger Says:

    My deepest condolences to Chris’s family and other loved ones. I wish them all the best in such a terrible time.

    Deepest contempt, however, for the nutless, oxygen thieving sack of DNA leftovers who can’t stifle himself and muster up the class to not dance a jig on a grave that hasn’t even been dug yet, in order to make a nonsensical and fallacious political statement.

  58. 58
    Anonymous Says:

    @51: As a ‘leftist’, I’m also saddened by his loss. Let’s not be stupid and make the loss of a decorated American soldier who did a lot of good on and off the battlefield about our political differences.

  59. 59
    NR Pax Says:

    @50: I can multitask. It’s no big deal for me to remember Christ Kyle and to openly despise a worthless waste of sperm like Joe.

    @58: Fancy words but they don’t take away from the fact that your fellow leftists are crowing happily about his death. I’ve had enough of “know thy enemy” to last me for the rest of my life.

  60. 60
    The Dead Man Says:

    I couldn’t bring myself to click over to Huffpo. I’m usually pretty decent at wading into the thick and stupid of it, but it’s just not worth the effort and neither is our resident troll. He can go wallow in his shallow, pathetic excuse of a life wasted.

  61. 61
    Just A Vet Says:

    Rest In Peace Warrior! God Bless All Those Serving In Harm’s Way.

  62. 62
    George P. Says:

    @58 I was speaking to the general group which are dancing upon his grave, the only thing that ties them together is the fact that they are all leftists (if you had read my comment I was speaking specifically to the ones that were enjoying it, if you didn’t enjoy it then the comment does not apply to you) I am merely responding to their disgusting behavior for they were the ones who started these attacks against him and frankly I am fucking tired of it.

  63. 63
    Richard Says:

    I guess there are dirtbags in the world.

    I guess that Chris’ funeral will be in the Dallas area. If I can get time off from work, I’m going to pay my respects. A dead man is being criticized for doing his duty. Can anybody else make it to Dallas?

    All of this “noise” feels like traveling in uniform in 1972.

  64. 64
    RobertM Says:

    The reason the “lodge” has a rifle and pistol ranges is because that is where his company CRAFT, trains and hold courses.

  65. 65
    Devtun Says:

    This is from a British rag…excellent pictures of Chris and dumb sh*t in comments section.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272697/Deadliest-sniper-U-S-military-history-Chris-Kyle-shot-killed-point-blank-veteran-suffering-PTSD-Texas-gun-range.html#axzz2JqdcnhG2

  66. 66
    BinhTuy66 Says:

    I’m going to go to amazon.com and buy “American Sniper.” I don’t know how I missed Chris’ book. A true American Hero. Proceeds from my purchase will hopefully benefit his family.

    Rest in peace, Chris and Chad.

  67. 67
    UpNorth Says:

    Rest in Peace, Chris. As for Joey, what everyone else has said.

  68. 68
    Jacobite Says:

    RIP Chief. :(

  69. 69
    NHSparky Says:

    Joey…remove yourself from the Internet and the gene pool. You aren’t fit to lick the ball sweat out of Chief Kyle’s jock, let alone spew your bullshit.

    GDIAF already. And stop posting from work.

  70. 70
    John11B Says:

    Thank you, Old Trooper (#54).

  71. 71
    FatCircles0311 Says:

    What a senseless tragedy. Not at all surprised by the hateful disgusting left in this country doing what they do best, but none the less it still angers me.

    Chris gave so much to his country and his fellow citizens it’s a shame that his family is now denied a father.

    He’s in a better place paling it up with his fallen brothers in arms and everyone else who fought the good fight.

  72. 72
    Old Trooper Says:

    @50: I’m capable of guttural hatred for the remarks and actions of scumbags while honoring the memory and life of a true warrior at the same time. It’s called multi-tasking and I’ve been able to do it for many, many years.

  73. 73
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @44 and what makes you an expert on PTSD? You have nothing to back up your statements other than your opinions and the other morons on this site.

  74. 74
    A_Proud_Infidel Says:

    Ogurl, do you have ANY experience in the real world other than serving Kool-Aid at hippie infestations?

  75. 75
    cannoncocker Says:

    ObamaGirl, do yourself a favor and remove yourself from this conversation before things get out of hand.

  76. 76
    Seadog Says:

    @73… And what makes you an expert on anything remotely military, you mouth-breathing gutter whore? Go back to your John and leave the adults alone. Nobody wants what you’re spewing today.

  77. 77
    ObamaGirl Says:

    Hondo you condemn Joe’s comments but then you wish terminal cancer on another human being? I lost my father to cancer when I was 9 years old and I can assure you it is a horrible thing to watch a loved one go through, you may hate Joe but think of his family members who would have to go through that..

    The only reasonable thing for you to do is apologize to Joe and this entire board for your inexcusable and disgusting comments.

  78. 78
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @74 I served in Iraq for a year as an MP in the National Guard.

  79. 79
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    You never miss an opportunity to let everyone here that you don’t have a decent bone in your body, do you? Between you and Joe, I could get a couple of boors without firing a shot.

    Chris Kyle was a good man. He was killed by someone he trusted who shot him in the back at point blank range.

    You and Joe are the lowest of your kind.

  80. 80
    cannoncocker Says:

    #77 OG

    I bet you won’t offer an apology to Chris Kyle’s children and offer condolences that their daddy is dead.

  81. 81
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @79 I didn’t say one bad word about Mr. Kyle he was obviously a good man.. But Hondos behavior is out of line and I am calling him on it.. If Joe had wished cancer on Hondo he would be ripped apart on this site.. Double standard much?

  82. 82
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @80 Mr. Kyle was obviously a good man and I would offer my condolences to his family.

  83. 83
    ObamaGirl Says:

    and EXPH2 who are you to insult me or anyone I served in a combat zone for this country, wtf did you do besides give out morale hand jobs at the px?

  84. 84
    Robot Wrangler Says:

    @77 Joe deserves what he gets by coming in a thread about a fellow brother in arms who died and gloating. Your taking up for him doesn’t endear you to much of anyone on this board either.

    So you did a year in the sandbox, I did too back in 04 when shit was as nasty as it could be, our AO had some of the worst IED and VBIED makers in country and I was caught in one of those VBIED blast while at the front gate of FOB Warhorse, I still deal with PTSD and the injuries I recieved from that day so I am fully able to comment on PTSD. I have never thought about killing someone who was trying to help me through a rough time period, the guy who did the shooting is a worthless turd and he is going to use his illness as a crutch to excuse just what he did, backshooting a fellow vet who was trying to help his sorry ass.

    TLDR; Fuck you Ogirl, fuck you Joe as far as I’m concerned you can both eat a bag of dicks and choke.

    RIP Chris Kyle, fair winds and calm seas brother.

  85. 85
    cannoncocker Says:

    #82 OG:

    Funny how your first instinct was to stick up for a traitor instead of offering condolences for an American Hero. You only admitted condolences grudgingly after I called you out. That is very telling…..

  86. 86
    YatYas Says:

    God bless Chris and watch over his family.

  87. 87
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Wow, OG served one whole year in the National Guard.

    I have two full-time active duty hitches under my belt.

    Shut up, slut.

  88. 88
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @87 I am sure your hand was tired when you got out skank.

  89. 89
    ObamaGirl Says:

    Now leave me alone and let me watch the puppy bowl in peace.

  90. 90
    rb325th Says:

    Umm OG, if you want to be left alone maybe you should not open your cock holster. Just sayin

  91. 91
    ObamaGirl Says:

    my comment was directed at EXPH2 who felt the need to insult me when I was trying to talk to Hondo..

  92. 92
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    @88 Not as tired as your lower jaw and your throat.

    See, my last duty station was the Naval Regional Medical Center in Philadelphia, PA, near the Navy Yard. I did medical photography of things like men coming in from Vietnam with shrapnel wounds and arms and legs blown off by booby traps, getting prepped for surgery to repair those wounds so that they could at least have some semblance of a normal life. One of them told me he was just glad to be alive. He had a hole in his face where his nose used to be, so the surgeon was planning to give him a new nose.

    But you don’t get that, do you? It’s all about you and you don’t give a crap who you hurt.

  93. 93
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    You still don’t have a decent bone in your body.

  94. 94
    A_Proud_Infidel Says:

    As for me, I’ve got three overseas tours, and you 0girl, sound like someone that made coffee for the CO and threatened anyone trying to make you do real work with a Sexual Harassment complaint, if you ever even served! What unit did you serve with, you rant like the posers exposed on this site!

  95. 95
    Hondo Says:

    ObamaGirl: you are obviously a brainless moron masquerading as a “PHd” student. You must have the reading comprehension level of a housefly.

    I specifically said I was close to wishing Joe a death from terminal cancer – but that he wasn’t there yet. Try re-reading comments 9 and 20 above, you ignorant twit. Have someone explain them to you if necessary.

    I owe no one an apology, ditz. And never presume to lie about what I said, petulant and naive child. You have neither the right to do so nor do you have my permission.

    And as for the terminal cancer angle: I’ve watched 5 relatives or close friends go that long slow way, one of whom was my own father. I know exactly how rough that way to the afterlife can be. That is probably the only reason I did NOT wish Joe that way out. As I clearly said above: there is only a short list of people on this planet I’d wish that on, and Joe’s not there – yet. But he’s getting close with crap like his first comment above.

    And, for the record: I don’t give a flying fornication at a rolling toroidal fried pastry about your opinion regarding anything. But I damn well care when someone invents and tells lies about me. And if you need me to translate the the first sentence of this paragraph for you, “oh miss highly intelligent PHd student”, I’ll be happy to do exactly that.

    You can now go fornicate yourself for all I care. That is all.

  96. 96
    Pete Says:

    @89 Die in a fire.

  97. 97
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Oh, Pete, that’s a little harsh, isn’t it? @89 can’t help being obnoxious, small-minded, and mean — born that way.

  98. 98
    A_Proud_Infidel Says:

    &89, I wonder, do liberals TRY to be as retarded as they can, or does it come to them naturally?

  99. 99
    SteveS Says:

    @98: they’re born that way. If they TRY to be retarded, they get elected to Congress.

  100. 100
    Joe Williams Says:

    Fair wind and following seas chief. May God grant Peace to his family. Joe

  101. 101
    Joe Williams Says:

    FYI: In grand Pairre(halfway between Dallas and Fort Worth is a National Cemetry . The family gets to decide. NAS Dallas will likely supply the Honor Guard. Joe

  102. 102
    Redacted1775 Says:

    Leave it to Joe and OG to stink up the place with their blatant ignorance. Bravo you fucking twatwaffles.

  103. 103
    NHSparky Says:

    OG–consider yourself and your ilk the reason I am considered a grumpy old fuck.

    I’ve got more time on the shitter at test depth answering a backing bell than you have in, period. I did my job gladly, without complaint (okay, maybe a little) and I did it well enough to use it as a follow-on to a civilian career.

    What Chief Kyle did was take his experiences as a FOUR-tour Iraq veteran, including some of the shittiest fighting in that entire war, and help others who had been in that situation.

    What have YOU done with your experience aside from wave it as some sort of bloody flag in the face of someone who would rightly call you out when you act like, well, a cunt?

    I’ve lost a number of relatives to cancer as well, including my father, and frankly, Joe isn’t even worthy of the effort it would take to wish something like that upon him, that’s how little I think of him.

    And you. Now sack your shit and bag ass.

  104. 104
    streetsweeper Says:

    “ObamaGirl”, comes by it naturally. Something to do with in-breeding, trailer park living and sleeping on her back to get through FLW. Oh and another of our resident marxist, anti-war protesters of IVAW fame. She was for it before she was against it…

  105. 105
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    This is from “The Old Hill Road” by Raymond Fennelly:

    Mount Castle lights are shining bright
    High above the county line.
    And the wind from Ballybunion
    Means tomorrow will be fine.

    And then my slumber ended
    And my eyes were filled with tears.
    I remembered all those faces
    That had passed me through the years.

    Though many now are dead and gone
    I can recall them still.
    Please God one day we’ll meet again
    In our Heaven on The Hill.

  106. 106
    John11B Says:

    Obamagirl, if that is your real name, I never claimed to be an expert on PTSD. I do have many friends whom I served with who suffer from PTSD to one degree or another and they are all non violent individuals. The statistics show (just google them) that there is no link between homicidal violence and PTSD as a result from combat. You must watch too much Dr. Phil.

  107. 107
    Craig Says:

    All your fucking retards bragging about how much of an internet badass you are – you’re disgusting.

    But hey, on to happy news, this worthless POS lying sack of garbage, is dead – and that is great news for rejoicing.

    The bastard even write a bragging book about his murderous exploits – what a classy American thing to do these days. Oh, don’t forget he also slandered Jessie Ventura, an actual worthwhile collection of DNA.

    As for RIP, I hope he’s in hell where he belongs. As for the rest of you 20 somethings, stupid tattoo wearing POSs, grow up and get a fucking life.

  108. 108
    Redacted1775 Says:

    #107 = keyboard warrior.

  109. 109
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @103 I am sure you’re bothered by the fact sparky that I have been down range and you haven’t, I earned a Combat Action Badge and you failed to earn a Combat Action Ribbon with all of your active duty time. I hope you’re auxillary VFW membership gives you comfort to the fact that the vast majority of the females in the military have seen combat in some capacity and you have seen it no capacity..

  110. 110
    68W58 Says:

    Nice Craig, hey since you’re a much bigger “badass” than those of us here, why don’t you go spout that line of garbage at Chris Kyle’s funeral. I’m sure there would be plenty of his former teammates who would be happily willing to painfully redefine that word for you.

  111. 111
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    #107 – No tattoos here, old enough to bend you over a chair and make you grow some respect for the dead, already have a life, thanks for asking.

    You’re just not nice.

  112. 112
    Redacted1775 Says:

    Only thing OG engaged in combat with is chlamydia. Yikes!

  113. 113
    Gruntling Says:

    Craig, I hope for your sake that you are trolling right now, I really do. Either way, you, my dear sir, are an absolute idiot for trying to start shit like that here. Go take your hate-filled idiocy else-where.

    This is typical of what I hear in the members of my generation who were either too scared to serve, or too “smart”. Me? I’m a college student, at a good school, who is proud as hell to be a member of the U.S. military. I don’t have a perfect life, I’ve done stupid things, but I am happy with what I have. Who are you to tell me…well, anything really?

    You are, in the end, nothing but a sad, lonely little man hiding online, trying to self-validate by insulting our honored dead in a place filled with men and women who actually know what it means to serve and to risk themselves.

    Grow up and get a life?

    You first.

  114. 114
    Green Thumb Says:

    @109.

    CAB.

    Tough.

  115. 115
    Dave Says:

    Check out what she has to say:

    http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/400177_281374758657598_1198219054_n.jpg

    She is Alyson Seligman, Owner/President of:

    http://sbrandstrategies.com/our-team/

  116. 116
    NHSparky Says:

    Um, OG? Sorry to disappoint you, my VFW Life Membership is in the no-shit honest-to-God VFW, not some auxiliary. I’ll leave it to you to figure out how I qualified.

    You got an “I was there” badge? Whoop de fuckin do. That and $3 will still get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

    No amount of money, however, will ever change the fact you’re a worthless scrunt. Poof–begone.

    Oh, and Craig @107? Real fuckin smooth move putting your e-mail address (albeit throwaway) in the wrong fucking block. Genius, you are.

  117. 117
    Green Thumb Says:

    @107.

    Loser.

  118. 118
    Rock8 Says:

    Joe #1 is a troll without any personal integrity. I wish those without the warrior ethos/respect for others would have never have found this blog. Oh well.

    RIP, Chris. You did the work so many others could not or would not. And you made a tremendous contribution in not only protecting your Brothers on the battle field, but helping them after you got back home as well.

    John, if there is anything we can do to help his widow and children, please let us know.

  119. 119
    Hondo Says:

    Once again, ObamaGirl displays her “superior PHd intellect”.

    You did know that the SSBN Deterrence Patrol Insignia qualifies one for VFW membership, right? As well as many operations for which the AFEM or NEM were awarded? And service in Korea sufficient for award of the KDSM? I mean, you’re such an intelligent and educated person and all.

    http://www.vfw.org/uploadedFiles/VFWorg/Join/complete%20eligibility%20Info.PDF

    Sheesh. You claim to be a doctoral student and can’t even abbreviate the degree you claim to be pursuing correctly. (It’s abbreviated “PhD”, ditz – not “PHd”, as you’ve done in comments you’ve made here at TAH.) After seeing that, why would anyone believe a damn thing you claimed about yourself?

  120. 120
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @95 and as for you Hondo I am not going to take an insult from someone who has never served a day in the military, you have no qualifications to speak on anything military related. I was in the National Guard but at least I deployed you did nothing. So stay out of military issues and stick to politics and kissing up to other people who never served in combat like NHSparky and Old Trooper and EX-PH2.

  121. 121
    Redacted1775 Says:

    It’s amazing how much you throw around the fact that “you served and deployed” yet you seem to know shit about absolutely nothing. It’s almost as if you’re using it as an excuse for your thus far immeasurable stupidity. Maybe it is you who should stay out of military issues.

  122. 122
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @113 Are you in the reserve? What are you going to school for?

  123. 123
    Redacted1775 Says:

    I’m betting you were handed a blanket CAB for IDF that hit on the other side of camp cupcake too. Dumbass.

  124. 124
    Hondo Says:

    Child, I have more time in uniform than you have on this Earth. I retired with 30+ years, active and reserve duty, in 2009. I spent more time on active duty than not between 9/11 and my retirement, including service in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Shut yer yap, spoiled brat. With each new comment, you’re only making yourself look like more of an ignorant ass than before.

  125. 125
    Gruntling Says:

    @OG Guard. I wanted Infantry no matter what. And I’m a Criminal Justice major.

  126. 126
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @121 I use it because I get accused by people who have never served or deployed that I somehow hate this country. It is a typical conservative tactic see how the Bush campaign handled the 2000 South Carolina Primary, 2000 Election and 2004 election.. Two draft dodgers ran against decorated Viet Nam veterans and called them cowards and people like you bought it hook line and sinker.

  127. 127
    Redacted1775 Says:

    I’m guessing alot of people who both served and deployed, numerous times, accuse you of it. You really don’t give much else for anyone to accuse you of. Besides being braindead, that is.

  128. 128
    NHSparky Says:

    Again, OG? Hondo DID serve, you scrunt.

  129. 129
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @125 you sound like a good man, don’t let the people on this board influence you, draw your own conclusions..

    Hondo, what was your MOS? You def weren’t a grunt because my husband is an 11B and you don’t talk like one..

  130. 130
    Sporkmaster Says:

    But then can you explain how that happened in 1994 and in 1998 that A Draft Dodger as you would label it won twice against two people who served in World War two in Combat? Or that Our Current VP used the same deferments that our previous one used?

    Also that there is no proof that Former President George W Bush did not complete his time in military service.

  131. 131
    Hondo Says:

    ObamaGirl: yeah, right. We’ve heard your claims. Whether they’re true or not, well, . . . who knows.

  132. 132
    NHSparky Says:

    other people who never served in combat like NHSparky

    I’m guessing “combat” is a relative term in your little world. I’ll take solace (and laugh my ass off at you) in knowing I’ve been a lot closer to the bad guys with consequences for fucking up a lot worse than you’ll ever begin to imagine.

    It’s a nice way of my telling you to take your CAB “I was there” badge and shove it up your ass.

  133. 133
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @128 I honestly doubt that he did, because he is always the first to question everyone elses service and patriotism.. He may very well have joined at some point but he wasn’t in a combat arms mos.. Maybe legal something not very physical.

  134. 134
    68W58 Says:

    Ugh Hondo, him no talk like grunt. Him r-tic-u-lut.

    Jeebus OG you couldn’t be a more perfect caricature. “You guys are racists”, “Bush pulled the wool over your eyes”, insert standard lefty talking point. Nobody here is buying what you’re selling, all you’re doing is taking a giant dump on a thread that I’m sure Jonn hoped would be about honoring Chris Kyle-get lost.

  135. 135
    NHSparky Says:

    OG–so you married your “boyfriend”, the one who claimed to be SF? That one?

  136. 136
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @131 exactly Hondo you never served.. Look up the song on you tube I am so much cooler online..

    @132 No Sparky I am calling combat what the military defines as combat, I was in the Army and met that definiton.. You were in the Navy and didn’t meet that definiton hence why you don’t have a Combat Action Ribbon.

  137. 137
    SteveS Says:

    Can we get these trolls banned?
    This thread has deteriorated from a goodbye to a remarkable warrior, to something that would now be better locked.
    All because of a couple of real tools.

  138. 138
    Redacted1775 Says:

    Seconded. They are not even worthy of speaking the man’s name.

  139. 139
    ROS Says:

    Why are you guys arguing with this twit? She brings absolutely nothing of value to this world, much less to this conversation meant to discuss and pay respects to Chris.

  140. 140
    Sporkmaster Says:

    136- No Sparky I am calling combat what the military defines as combat, I was in the Army and met that definition.

    Proof?

  141. 141
    ObamaGirl Says:

    I made a comment on this thread and my service was insulted so I have every right to question the service of those who insult mine. Especially when the people who insult me (Hondo, NHSparky, Old Trooper) Never saw a day of combat.

  142. 142
    Redacted1775 Says:

    As much as you talk yourself up here, I’m guessing you only saw alot of sand, nothing more. Loud is weak. And you’re pretty freakin’ loud.

  143. 143
    PALADIN Says:

    @ObamaGirlRuglicker Listen bitch, get your thumb outta your mouth or whatever you put in there, zip that big f’ing lip of yours up…and ‘f” right off ! You are thee most disrespectful turd i have ever seen here !

    We are remembering a Great American here today, and you choose to come here and break bad with that big f’ing mouth of yours !
    Go piss up a rope !

    P.S. Obama sucks shit !

  144. 144
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @137 I didn’t start the name calling, I am defending myself.
    I agree that Mr.Kyle was a great American. But I questioned someones assumptions about the killers actions as it regards to PTSD and was assailed with insults.. I would be more than happy to debate that instead of taking insults.

  145. 145
    Sporkmaster Says:

    I am kinda curious what is as you put it, “what the military defines as combat” is? Since the Military now suddenly gave a clear set defined rules as when is considered real combat then would you care to cite that definition for me please?

    For education since you know exactly is defined as what is and is not considered combat now.

  146. 146
    SteveS Says:

    @141: you parachuted into this thread way back up in #73: in case you forgot, here it is again:

    “@44 and what makes you an expert on PTSD? You have nothing to back up your statements other than your opinions and the other morons on this site.”

    Seems to me you ran your mouth first, coming in here and calling other posters “morons.” You would have been better off slinking away, rather than coming in here showing your ass.
    I’m calling on you to do the decent thing and autorotate yourself off this thread. Do it now.

  147. 147
    Just Plain Jason Says:

    OG as little you know of the military…you know you should just remain silent.

  148. 148
    3C3P Says:

    RIP Chief Kyle; only soft landing from now on.
    Please bans the POS OG and Joe. They are both mindless morons. Hopefully the both rot in the depths of Hades.

  149. 149
    NHSparky Says:

    OG–make ya a deal–never show up here again, and we’ll never speak of you again. Fair enough?

    Buh-bye now. And yes, I’ve had live ordnance of a navy other than that of the US or her allies flying around me, thanks for asking. That close enough to satisfy?

    Back on topic. God speed, Chief Kyle. Taken from us far too soon. Prayers to your family and loved one.

  150. 150
    Futue Te Ipsum Says:

    Didn’t start the name-calling? Short term memory loss in one so young is not a good sign. Here is what you said, above:

    73ObamaGirl Says:
    February 3rd, 2013 at 5:30 pm
    @44 and what makes you an expert on PTSD? You have nothing to back up your statements other than your opinions and the other morons on this site.

    Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus, puta puta puto! Mox corovs pasces! Non possis distinguere tuum podicem a Puticulis, puta!

  151. 151
    ALee Says:

    It is most tragic not only that these 2 gentlemen were killed, leaving families behind, but that the alleged shooter is a young veteran suffering from PTSD. I can’t help but think that they were taking an awful risk in bringing Routh to a shooting range under the circumstances.

    Meantime, everybody take a deep breath everyone as some of the comments posted on here tell me there are others with a short fuse that they are finding it hard to control

  152. 152
    ObamaGirl Says:

    I didn’t wish terminal cancer on somebody because he was trying to make a point.

  153. 153
    68W58 Says:

    Neither did Hondo-read it again.

    Oh-and Joe was just trolling, same as you.

  154. 154
    ObamaGirl Says:

    Joe’s last comment was

    I am sorry for your loss. I’ll leave you in peace.

    That is some hardcore trolling.. Read it again.

  155. 155
    NHSparky Says:

    Okay, OG–I won’t wish terminal cancer on you or Joe, either.

    Although a raging case of syphilis on you both isn’t out of the question, and I’m sure you’ve got first-hand experience with most of the major symptoms already.

  156. 156
    68W58 Says:

    I read his first comment-he was trolling. You come on a blog/message board and say something provocative. knowing that those who usually post there won’t welcome your input, you’re trolling.

    I get that maybe you don’t grok that since you have essentially the same shtick, but it is what it is.

  157. 157
    Futue Te Ipsum Says:

    Oh, so it’s OK for OG to give everyone here a tongue-lashing and start off by calling people morons, but it isn’t okay when OG gets it right back in its face?

    The rule is this: if you can’t take it, then you don’t get to dish it out.

    Got that?

    You started it. You got it handed back to you in spades, die dumme Kuh. Sie sind eine Zimtzicke, Schlamp, und linke Titte, Schweinehund. Ficken sie.

  158. 158
    NHSparky Says:

    And while you’re at it, make sure you read his other comments in this thread, folks…and don’t just stop there. Pick pretty much any topic Joe or OG decide to swoop and poop on, and if you come away not feeling like you need to take a Crying Game type shower, you are not human.

  159. 159
    SteveS Says:

    Joe’s FIRST post:

    “When a guy who is about as much of an expert on guns as it is possible to be, and he can’t even protect himself from gun violence, well so much for you “armed society is a peaceful society”.”

    Can you even remark on someone coming in here with such shit? On which potential planet is that pathetic tripe welcome? What the fuck, this is the Huffington Post?
    You want to post shit like that, go over there. Here, this thread is to honor a warrior, not make some pissant political statement.
    I ask you again to leave.

  160. 160
    PALADIN Says:

    @159 Neither OG or Joey are fit to lick the boots of Chief Kyle.

    I second your motion to these retreads … LEAVE !

  161. 161
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @159 Why is Mr. Kyle the only warrior honored on this site? Why isn’t every service member honored on here when they are killed or wounded? Was it because it might have made your war in Iraq look less justifed? I thought this blog was supposed to be for veterans, instead of corrupt republican politicians.

  162. 162
    68W58 Says:

    Hilarious!

  163. 163
    Futue Te Ipsum Says:

    Quit changing the subject NOW!!!!

    You prove, over and over again, that you are incapable of anything other than vilification and denigration. You lose argument after argument, try to throw it onto another line, and you still lose.

    Apologize for your egregious behavior and your false superiority, and do it now.

    And then leave, and don’t come back.

  164. 164
    PALADIN Says:

    @161 ahahhahahaahahhaaaaa ! i knew it !

    You are truly a shameful piece of S@&t.

  165. 165
    Redacted1775 Says:

    161: That’s an easy one, he isn’t. Dummy.

  166. 166
    SteveS Says:

    I’ve been called many things in my life, including: Sergeant, Mr S, Asshole… but I’ve never been called a corrupt Republican politician. Clearly you have serious mental issues that preclude you from proper cognition and comprehension of the written word. I bet if you’d ever come here and paid any attention, you’d see that Jonn and his merry band of cutthroats are the most “Hoo-ah” supporters of veterans both living and dead that you could ever find. Instead you come here like a rabid chimpanzee flinging dung and smearing itself with more dung.
    In honor of Chief Kyle, I will hereby refrain from commenting any further in this thread.
    :slow hand salute: RIP Chief

  167. 167
    Hondo Says:

    ObamaGirl: for the second time, ditz: I didn’t wish Joe terminal cancer either. Go re-read what I wrote in comments 9 and 20 – if you can read and understand them, that is. Or have someone read and explain them to you if comprehending clear written English is beyond your capability.

    So you now want to know about my background? Oh, that’s rich. You’ve lied about me above by deliberately (or through appalling ignorance) misrepresenting what I said, and falsely called me a liar in comments to another article on this board. I’ve brought that to your attention multiple places and times. Yet you’ve never seen fit to apologize – and have repeated the lies again in a subsequent comment above. Now you’re asking me to tell you about my background? And you’re also trying to play the “you’re not a grunt” card – when you obviously aren’t one yourself?

    Geez, ObamaGirl – you are really one hypocritical piece of work.

    I get pissed off at people when they lie to or about me, girlie. And when I’m pissed off at someone, I usually don’t feel inclined to satisfy their idle curiosity if I don’t have to.

    In this case, I don’t have to.

    Don’t like that? Tough. You don’t have to like it. But you’ll have to deal with that for now.

    Change your attitude, apologize, and start acting like an adult. Then you might get an answer. Keep acting like a spoiled six-year-old brat who isn’t getting her way and you won’t.

  168. 168
    NHSparky Says:

    And I see that OG, like many of the STDs she carries, just keep popping up. They’ll never really go away, just flare up every now and again.

  169. 169
    Futue Te Ipsum Says:

    In case anyone wondered about it, eine linke Titte means “a leftist tit”. ;)

  170. 170
    PALADIN Says:

    @ 166 Roger That !

    R.I.P Chris , and Know we will never forget your courage and sacrifice to keep our entity and self respect.

    God Bless You.

  171. 171
    PavePusher Says:

    #115: That may be a fraud.

    From their Facebook page, via their corporate page:

    “ALERT: Alyson Seligman’s photo was ripped off her personal blog and used on a Twitter profile by someone spewing awful anti-American remarks as it relates to the tragedy of Chris Kyle this weekend. Please, please know that is not her; we have alerted authorities and the page has now been suspended. We are working to remedy the situation however, if you see Alyson’s photo we appreciate if you can advise us. Thank you in advance.”

  172. 172
    cannoncocker Says:

    Wow, up to 166 posts up to this point. I’m just saddened. I’m not even angry anymore. Ok, yeah, I’m angry. But more saddened at this point.

    ObamaGirl, you DO realize that Joe started it right? You DO realize that him trolling and shitting all over the memory of a great Warrior is the reason all this started right? You DO UNDERSTAND THAT RIGHT??? And yet he is the one you are defending, at the same time trying to tell us all how great YOU are because you’re also a “veteran”? (in quotations because describing you as a “veteran” requires the loosest meaning of the term.)

    Get your 11B/SF/Space Shuttle Door Gunner husband in here so we can get his take on his wife’s stupidity. Please. Does he even know what you’re up to tonight? Has he even asked why you’re on the computer instead of making him a sandwich?

  173. 173
    PavePusher Says:

    Oops, forgot the link: https://www.facebook.com/SBrandStrategies

  174. 174
    WkAvngr211 Says:

    My condolences to the families of Chief Kyle, and his friend. OG thank you for your service, whatever it was, but please do the world a favor and don’t breed. To the other trolls, “F” the hell off you worthless boils on a gnat’s ass.

  175. 175
    PavePusher Says:

    Let’s ignore the trolls folks. They came pushing buttons for reactions, and you gave it to them, in spades. Let them talk to the wind.

  176. 176
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @167 You’re the one who owes an apology for wishing illness on someone you have never met.. And quit the charade you have no military backround. You’re another chickenhawk trying to justify himself, just another keyboard commando.

  177. 177
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Now cracks a noble heart.
    Good night, sweet prince
    And flights of angels
    Sing thee to thy rest.

  178. 178
    Redacted1775 Says:

    Not only is OG incapable of thinking on her own, apparently she’s also illiterate.

  179. 179
    Hondo Says:

    ObamaGirl: yeah, right. You obviously cannot read clear written English and/or don’t care about the truth. So go ahead and delude yourself if you like. You’ll still be a ditz, but maybe you’ll be a happy ditz.

    Oh, who am I kidding. You’ll be an ill-tempered, disagreeable ditz wherever you go. So just go elsewhere.

    I’ll laugh about your claims that I “never served” when my reserve retired pay starts in a few years – approx 15 months early due to my performing active duty in support of designated contingency operations under 10 USC 12301(D) after 28 Jan 2008.

    Shoot, you’ll probably still be claiming you’re a “PHd student” then.

  180. 180
    Sporkmaster Says:

    And you still owe me a definition. Since you missed it I will re-post.

    I am kinda curious what is as you put it, “what the military defines as combat” is? Since the Military now suddenly gave a clear set defined rules as when is considered real combat then would you care to cite that definition for me please?

    For education since you know exactly is defined as what is and is not considered combat now.

  181. 181
    Joe Williams Says:

    The question was asked and never answered ! What unit did you serve in? What was the time period of tour? Joe

  182. 182
    Nurse Murch Says:

    OG, you want some Midol or something? Looks like your PMS is gettin’ out of control there, sandcrab.

  183. 183
    cannoncocker Says:

    http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/elections/30148d1225951820-americas-first-black-president-wrong-answer-dont-feed-troll.jpg3..jpg

  184. 184
    DoD Researcher Says:

    Y’know, I went looking for the specific term ‘combat’, which is non-extant as a standalone term in the DoD Dictionary. The noun ‘combat’ is accompanied by secondary nouns that specifically address particulars of combat airspace, combat zone, combat support elements, etc., etc., et cetera.

    However, there is no DoD-specific definition for the word ‘combat’ alone.

    Anyone taking bets on how long it takes Goofus Amongus to switch subjects again?

  185. 185
    Hondo Says:

    Sporkmaster: she won’t be able to. Curiously enough, neither FM 1-02 (Operational Terms and Graphics) nor JP 1-02 (Department of Defense Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms) seem to contain a definition of the term “combat”. As far as I know, those two pubs would be where the term would be officially defined for the Army and DoD, respectively.

    http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/DR_pubs/dr_a/pdf/fm1_02.pdf
    http://ra.defense.gov/documents/rtm/jp1_02.pdf

    Quite a number of the terms in both publications use the word “combat” either as part of the term being defined or as part of a definition. But if the term “combat” is defined in either publication I certainly can’t find the definition.

    Dunno why that’s the case, but it is. Had to research it once and was quite surprised by the result.

  186. 186
    DoD Researcher Says:

    So are you saying, Hondo, that OG lied again?!?!?

    OG enjoys provoking people, which is why questions are never answered, snide and snarky remarks and insults are thrown out like confetti, the subject is repeatedly changed and/or bypassed, and yet the insulter doesn’t like being insulted. It’s all very self-serving, manipulative and infantile.

    I think it’s time to call it quits. And block the trolls while you’re at it.

  187. 187
    Nathan Says:

    What disturbs me the most about Chris was his view on killing. He somehow believed that killing 150 people was good because he was on the “correct” side of the fight. In reality the only difference between him and the insurgents he killed is the place he was born and the magical being in the sky he worships.

    I wont say that I am happy he was shot because death is never a good thing. On the other hand, I certainly wont lose any sleep over his death, just as he apparently didn’t over the so called evil people he killed.

  188. 188
    Hondo Says:

    DoD Researcher: right you are. But it’s Jonn’s call whether or not to ban her (or to put her on moderation, where her comments get reviewed individually before they’re posted). Jonn generally doesn’t do that simply because someone is a dipshit. They have to cross a couple of lines first.

    The few examples I’ve seen where Jonn banned or put someone on moderation involved people making comments containing blatantly racist or grossly misogynistic statements. And I’m not sure he’s ever banned someone outright – though I could be wrong about that.

    ObamaGirl is an insulting, infantile, petulant, hypocritical, and ignorant ditz. But so far as I can tell she hasn’t crossed those particular “red lines”.

    Yet.

  189. 189
    Redacted1775 Says:

    Now that’s a piece of shit opinion born of ingorance and too sheltered a life. Educate yourself son.

  190. 190
    Hondo Says:

    Say hello to the bar girls down in Itaewon for us, “Nathan”.

  191. 191
    Sporkmaster Says:

    Considering that those 150 people and those like them have done second and first hand I would say that I will sleep better knowing that they are 6 feet under.

  192. 192
    Jim Says:

    Rest in peace, shipmate.

  193. 193
    Sporkmaster Says:

    Hando

    It seems that when approving certain combat awards it leaves a lot up to the person approving it.

    Soldier must be personally present and actively engaging or being engaged by the enemy, and performing satisfactorily in accordance with the prescribed rules of engagement.

  194. 194
    Hondo Says:

    Sporkmaster: that’s part of the criteria for the CAB vice an official Army definition of the term “combat”. It’s word-for-word identical to para 8-8.c.(3) in AR 600-8-22.

    The term “combat” is used often, but neither the Army nor DoD seems to have formally defined what is actually meant by “combat”. I guess like pornography, you’re supposed to “know it when you see it” based on “contemporary community standards”.

    And I agree it leaves much up to the discretion of individual commanders, IMO way too much. Because of that discretion, I’ve seen some real head-scratchers – like folks getting both a noncombat decoration and a CAB for the same tour in Iraq. Maybe someone will be able to explain that one to me someday.

  195. 195
    Sporkmaster Says:

    But look at the wording for the CIB with is more detailed and specific.

    A Soldier must be personally present and under fire while serving in an assigned infantry or Special Forces primary duty, in a unit engaged in active ground combat, to close with and destroy the enemy with direct fire.

  196. 196
    Hondo Says:

    Sporkmaster: agreed, the CIB criteria is more specific. But neither defines precisely what the term “combat” actually means.

    Even the CIB criteria has room for interpretation. Does shooting at the enemy if they don’t shoot back count? How about getting shot at by a sniper you can’t locate and thus can’t shoot back at? How about IDF? What if the forces never close with each other, but exchange fire at some distance and then break contact? Which of those do/don’t qualify?

    The only place I’ve ever seen the term “combat” formally defined is in a dictionary. And dictionary definitions for the term are usually rather broad, something along the lines of “an engagement fought between opposing military forces” or something similar.

    Unfortunately, the term “engagement” is rather broad. JP 1-02 defines “engagement” as a “tactical conflict, usually between opposing lower echelons maneuver forces.” This would seem to include anything from a single individual being shot at by a single enemy sniper to a single IDF round striking a base/camp/patrol to a pitched battle between battalion-sized or larger units. Under that definition, pretty much any exchange of fire (unilateral or bilateral) would qualify as “combat”.

    I’m OK with that if that’s what the Army wants – personally, I think if you’re getting shot at or shooting at someone while you’re in a combat zone, you’re serving in combat. I could accept a “tighter” definition too if the Army wants to promulgate one and apply it across the board. But I think we can and should do a better job of defining the “rules” than that. Otherwise, what’s “combat” to one CO might not be to another.

    To do that, we need to define explicitly what we mean by “combat”. We don’t seem to have ever explicitly done so.

  197. 197
    Nathan Says:

    Haha, what do bar girls have to do with this conversation? Did someone say I am sheltered? ZZzz what a waste of time.

  198. 198
    Smitty Says:

    “If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude over the animated contest for freedom, depart from us at once. we seek neither your arms nor your council, and may prosperity forget that we ever called you our countrymen”

    Samuel Adams

    i am still breathing today because of Chris Kyle’s actions in faluja and sadre city in ’04. Chris then did another service to my family in providing over watch for my father in ramadi in ’07 and ’08. i count him as a friend and will never forget him nor his service.

  199. 199
    Nathan Says:

    Yet, the reality is there was no reason for either of you to be in those places to begin with.

    We protect our freedom by bombing people thousands of miles away. Sounds like someone is watching too much Fox News.

  200. 200
    Smitty Says:

    we were there for each other and the other men that wore our uniform. we went because the man next to us went and we wanted him to come home alive. what we did there protected you from men who want you just as dead as they want me, despite your liberal sympathies. i would rather fight my enemies on their home land then ours, but forget not that terrorists brought the fight to us, on our soil. very few people taking up arms against the US in iraq were iraqi, they came from the world over to fight us because it was easier to become an armed militant in iraq than to do the same in the states. all of this is irrelivent, what is done is done and many years behind us. we went to Iraq, we fought for your freedom and to protect you, we came home and all we did was forsaken and pronounced in vein.

    it matters not why we were there, we were. i draw breath today because of a great man and a great soldier watching my back. i am on this web site, because he was stolen from this world by a man he tried to help. you are here for God only knows why

  201. 201
    DefendUSA Says:

    Nathan,
    Here it is. Shut. the. fuck. up. It’s the asshole cowards like you who have no fucking idea about guys like Chris Kyle. And you never will until your own sorry ass is on the line and you’ve got nothing but phrases like, “Hold on, Can we talk?” to get you out of it. And sadly, it won’t help. Neither will watching MSNBC and all the fuckheads who would doctor videos and turn them into propaganda called news.
    Shut. the fuck. up.

  202. 202
    Hondo Says:

    “Nathan”: the comment about bar girls in Itaewon was intended to inform you that we know you’re a damned hypocrite.

    You’re commenting from Seoul. You’re only free to spout the drivel above because you are kept free by the daily efforts of far better men and women than yourself – men and women in the US and ROK military. People like like the late Chief Kyle.

    Without their efforts, you’d be cowering in a corner, begging for mercy from your North Korean master while he decided whether you were going to eat today or not. So how about you just can it, clown.

  203. 203
    A Proud Infidel Says:

    Hey Øgirl, I’ve yet to hear what unit you served over there with, you sound like either a poser or someone who played every game possible in order to stay behind the wire and complained about the coffee machine in HQ as well as the AC!!
    As for your PhD,(Piled higher and Deeper, I’m sure!) what are toy allegedly going for a degree in, you sound like a convenience store clerk!

  204. 204
    RunPatRun Says:

    Askimet servers must be down, a lot of spam seems to be getting through.

    Nathan must be one of those Sunshine policy boys, a failed policy to coddle up with DPRK. Glad to see he is in the minority and another conservative takes office in the ROK this month.
    ??? FTW!

  205. 205
    RunPatRun Says:

    the ‘???’ was Park Geun-hye in Hangul

  206. 206
    JP Says:

    I find it funny that most of these leftist loons call Chris a murderer for his 160 kills, but support Obama and his drone program, which kills more, including innocents. With snipers, only the bad guy dies.

    Also figure for each of those 160 kills, around 10 of our guys were saved.

    Maybe some of you mouthbreathers and windowlickers out there don’t get it, but that certainly is heroic. Contrary to your delusions, the world isn’t all rainbows and hugs…there are bad people out there who would not hesitate to kill you and your family if given the chance. All that stands between you and that happening is people like Chris Kyle.

    Of course, you’d probably say I’m wrong…I’m not. I’d love to buy any of you limp wristed pansy asses a one way ticket to Iraq or Afghanistan, just so you could see yourselves, but we all know you’d just pussy out from that anyway.

    F U, moonbats.

  207. 207
    Anonymous Says:

    I had the privalage of sering with 3/75th, Chris and I used to have some fun banter between us about SEALS vs Rangers, I regret that the last time I talked to him was vet’s day.I can promise ill make the trip to TX for his funeral and I really hope these libs have the balls to show up and say any small piece of their banter here whenface to face with those who knew Chris.

  208. 208
    NHSparky Says:

    Nathan–by your reasoning, we had no reason to be at war with Nazi Germany or Japan either–oh, the thought of firebombing cities thousands of miles away, oh, the horror!

    Actually, when you consider how much horror was visited upon the German/Japanese populations by our bombers, I’d say we’ve acted with incredible restraint, all things considered. Had 9/11 occured a few generations ago, it’s entirely likely large swaths of the Middle East would have been turned to glass even before the rubble of the WTC had stopped smouldering. YMMV.

  209. 209
    NHSparky Says:

    Even the CIB criteria has room for interpretation.

    As we’ve seen by the actions of our boy Dull-ASS.

    Now, boys and girls, cometh the lesson. Here we have Chief Kyle, who by any measure served honorably and well, and even after his service, gave of himself to help his fellow veterans who struggled with their inner demons.

    And then we have “veterans” such as Dull-ASS, OG, Knees/DeWald (yeah, I know you’re out there, son) who would sooner piss on the service of others because it wasn’t THEIR experience; IOW, their bleatings of, “It’s all about MEEEEEE!!” continues unabated, despite the fact that their asshattery has been pointed out for what it is and the fact that it is not welcome.

    That, OG, is the difference between you and your buddies versus me and my brothers (and sisters) in arms. We do not denigrate the service of another simply because they do not wear the same shiny piece of metal above their left breast pocket as do we, whether that may be a CIB, CAB, dolphins, or nothing at all. I/we denigrate you because you’re a self-serving jackwagon who brings nothing to the discussion other than reminding us that then, as now, as likely always will be, there will always be that “10 percent” of shitbags in any organization.

    We honor Chief Kyle for what he sacrificed both in uniform and after he left the service. You use his yet-cold body to stand on for political gain, or worse, to piss on his yet undug grave, and for that, you are and will always be shunned as the miserable hag you are.

    Thus endeth the sermon, thus endeth the lesson.

  210. 210
    Old Trooper Says:

    @187: The thing you don’t understand is that he was protecting his brothers and sisters with his actions over there. I’m not talking about bombings thousands of miles away, but rather the others that were there with him. That is why he didn’t have as much of a problem with it as you seem to have. Do the insurgents kill us to protect their insurgent buddies? No, they kill because they want to kill and that’s all they know. They don’t care how many innocents get taken out with their intended target, either. Of course, the insurgents were very good at manipulating the press to their own ends and get public opinion on their side. Looks like it worked on you.

  211. 211
    Hondo Says:

    Old Trooper: ObamaGirl not comprehending is one possibility. Given what I’ve seen of her “massive intellect” here at TAH, I’d give that about a 1 out of 3 chance of being the case.

    Understanding fully and still not giving a damn I’d rate as about a 2 out of 3 chance. She’s an immature ditz, but IMO she’s not quite that much of a ditz.

  212. 212
    marinewm86 Says:

    RIP Chief Kyle.

    When did this country lose so much of it’s dignity? This man served honorably. How can anyone come to this site and insult,vilify and be so blantly disrespectful to Chief Kyle? Today there is a wife, children, parents, siblings, teammates and friends who should be able to mourn and honor their husband, father, son, brother and friend without all of the hateful comments.

    Some of these people should be ashamed. And remember because of men like Chris Kyle they still have Freedom of Speech.

  213. 213
    NHSparky Says:

    Hondo–you can enlighten a ditz. Her? Not so much.

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    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    A fine Chief, role model to the Mess, and NSW Sniper.

    A complete gentleman, devoted husband and father, and true American Patriot.

    One only needs to listen closely to the SOC’s own words about saving lives and love of country to fully realize that he was a very special man!

    SOC Kyle was the recipient of 2 Silver and 5 Bronze Stars – for those who wish to vilify him for doing the job of sniper better than anyone before him … you can Kiss My Royal Irish Ass!

    RIP Brother SOC Chris Kyle, USN (Ret.) …

    No doubt he will have his own perch above the gates of heaven … scanning the distance horizon for the devil himself.

  215. 215
    Vn6768 Says:

    Me thinks joe, the first post, is a shill…

  216. 216
    Reaperman Says:

    I’m a bit late to this one, quite a shame. The guy was clearly not right, and at least he’s off the street, but obviously this could have turned out in a lot of better ways. I can more easily identify with a whole raft of other ways to flip out, but I just don’t ‘get’ this one.

  217. 217
    Veritas Omnia Vincit Says:

    @212 It’s been losing dignity for sometime. The self-hatred for the nation on the left is foreign to my mind. I can’t understand how someone can think we are the root cause of everything that is wrong with the world. But the left, in spite of protestation to the contrary, hates the nation and thus anyone who works to defend it. Somehow they think if you just wish it so we can all sit around a global campfire singing Kumbaya and cooking s’mores. Thankfully there are men like Chris Kyle who understand the world is an ugly, dangerous place across much of it and they are prepared to act accordingly in defense of nation and their brethren no matter how ungrateful some in the nation might be.

    While their rhetoric doesn’t perhaps quite rise to the level of the Westboro brand of lunatics, it is nonetheless rhetoric that should be viewed with disgust and those bearing that rhetoric should view their mirrors with some shame at the image thus reflected back upon them.

  218. 218
    Hondo Says:

    NHSparky: I stand by my last comment. IMO, you have a 1/3 chance of being right. Personally, I think ObamaGirl knows full well what she’s doing here – and is doing it deliberately to offend.

    I can overlook or forgive stupidity. Barring exceptional stupidity, ignorance is curable.

    But repeated intentional provocation regarding such a subject? IMO now we’re approaching evidence of poor moral character. And I don’t find that something to overlook or forgive barring a change of heart and behavior.

  219. 219
    marinewm86 Says:

    @217 You are right Thank God for men like Chris Kyle. I just get so disgusted with these people on the left. I would much rather celebrate Men of Honor like Chris Kyle than men who make millions of dollars for throwing a football. It’s a shame that more people do not love this country and realize that our warriors should be celebrated not insulted.

  220. 220
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    Eternal Father, Strong to save,
    Whose arm hath bound the restless wave,
    Who bid’st the mighty Ocean deep
    Its own appointed limits keep;
    O hear us when we cry to thee,
    for those in peril on the sea.

    O Christ! Whose voice the waters heard
    And hushed their raging at Thy word,
    Who walked’st on the foaming deep,
    and calm amidst its rage didst sleep;
    Oh hear us when we cry to Thee
    For those in peril on the sea!

    Most Holy spirit! Who didst brood
    Upon the chaos dark and rude,
    And bid its angry tumult cease,
    And give, for wild confusion, peace;
    Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee
    For those in peril on the sea!

    O Trinity of love and power!
    Our brethren shield in danger’s hour;
    From rock and tempest, fire and foe,
    Protect them wheresoe’er they go;
    Thus evermore shall rise to Thee,
    Glad hymns of praise from land and sea.

  221. 221
    Veritas Omnia Vincit Says:

    @213/218 OG is an antagonist looking for a response, none of the posts are designed to engage in any form of accurate debate from differing viewpoints on an issue. Instead they are designed to be an insulting counterpoint with all the merit of an argument based on “I know you are but what am I”.

    I respect that Jonn allows all of us to have our opinions no matter how idiotic some of mine are and I do not fear he will be ban me. I like to think I offer an interesting observation from time to time, but I do not think OG engages in any of that. I think your BS meter is on the money with OG, and I do not find any of “her”(I do not believe it’s a woman) posts to contain information that is useful or in any way advances a discussion on a controversial topic.

  222. 222
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    Things to Do (or get done):

    OG – Kick in the camel’s foot.
    Joe – Invite to any number of NYC bars and permit him to speak his mind.
    Nathan – Spirit of my father travels to Korea to deliver a punch in the throat!

  223. 223
    NHSparky Says:

    And I don’t find that something to overlook or forgive barring a change of heart and behavior.

    And knowing her, you’re likely to see neither from her anytime soon.

    Thus I called her intentionally obtuse. She knows the right answer, she just chooses to ignore it and keep flinging shit at the cage bars. This is what we in the Nuclear Program called <2.5 LOK, GCE.

  224. 224
    KDH Says:

    To all the liberal gun control freaks- You should thank the real men & women like Chris who fight for your “right” to exppess your BS.
    Ironically I just started reading Chris’s book the day he died. I wonder if his murderer is the guy refered to in the book as “Runaway……..”

  225. 225
    Twist Says:

    I can’t believe that OG comes in here insulting everyone here in her first post and then whines when she gets insulted back. Who am I kidding, I can believe that she does crap like that.

  226. 226
    ObamaGirl Says:

    Well NHSparky and Hondo, your wish for my comments to be blocked has come true.. You guys need to learn to fight your own battles instead of always calling for Lilyea to save you.

    I always knew this site was a haven for racists and bullies and it was just proven again, I cut you to pieces in our argument yesterday and you block me.. Take your ball and go home. You all are very sorry individuals.

  227. 227
    Hondo Says:

    ObamaGirl: as an author at TAH, I can see the pending comments. Your latest 2 comments are currently pending. (Edited to add: they were pending when this comment was posted; Jonn’s since approved one of them.)

    You think you “cut me up” in argument yesterday? Give me a freaking break, child. You delude yourself, lass; you’re not capable of arguing your way out of a urine-soaked paper bag.

    It appears Jonn put you on the “moderated” list with a few other real “winners” who comment here. My guess is Jonn finally got fed up enough with your lies and generally childish and asinine behavior to do so. This is Jonn’s site, so it’s his call as to whether or not he chooses to let you comment here or not. His house, his rules.

    And quit lying through your teeth, you ignorant twit. I owe Joe no freaking apology, as I didn’t wish him a slow lingering death – what I said was I was considering doing so. There is a difference between the two that even a “PHd student” like yourself should be able to understand. I also wasn’t one of those who called for Jonn to ban you, ditz.

    In fact, I hope Jonn doesn’t ban you. You make an absolutely spectacular and hilarious public ass of yourself every time you show up here at TAH. Frankly, it’s kinda fun to point that fact out to anyone and everyone.

  228. 228
    NHSparky Says:

    OG–banning you would only serve to fuel your fires. I too hope that Jonn allows you to continue to post here, if only to demonstrate to the rest of the world what a clueless asshat you are.

    You are living proof that even if one has been to the sandbox, it’s possible to have gone there and not learned a fucking thing.

  229. 229
    Skylar Says:

    I never even met the guy yet I knew exactly what kind of person he was. Regardless of what I thought I wanted to do hes the one who pushed me over the edge on being a SEAL. After everyone and everything I’ve read about he was always the one I fell back onto and looked up to. Now that has changed. Now I look up to him more than ever before and I can honestly say that his mission will never end. He was the most selfless person ive ever known of.I didnt express It much but meeting him was one of the main things I wanted to do in my life. But I didnt realize that it didnt have to be face to face until now. If I become half the man that he is and I can wake up everyday and pin the same trident on my chest and serve with the same honor and valor he did every minute of his life. Then I have gone beyond meeting him. Especially knowing that he helped me get there. Future Seal- Skylar Reese, Winfield,Alabama!!

  230. 230
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    There is one benefit to allowing a parasitic jackal like OG to post here.

    OG’s very feeble, lame attempts to stir anger in others almost works, until s/he/it is so bludgeoned by riposte and repartee that s/he/it cannot compete, so we routinely see a spurious ‘pull back, regroup, and strike again’ attempt, which also proves futile.

    The refusal to answer questions, the listless attempts at rebuttal, and the constant change of subject on OG’s part are clear indicators of lack of skill in debate and/or argument.

    I see no harm in a friendly argument.

    But these vicious, personal attacks by OG are neither friendly nor good arguments. They are just the product of a Zimtzicke (bitchy, quarrelsome woman) who is seldom right but will bully anyone in sight until everyone gets tired of her and leaves, and then in her teensy-weensy little brain, she thinks she’s won, when in fact, she just bored people to death.

    If OG really had any intention of simply debating an issue, why would her/his/its opening sentence include the word “morons”?

    Clearly, there was never any intent to do anything other than insult and antagonize people.

  231. 231
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Oh, crap, I never followed up on my first sentence.

    The sole benefit is that it forces all of us to display our never-ending supply of debate, argument and language skills.

    I will remember to answer my own remarks next time. ;)

  232. 232
    GunzRunner26.2 Says:

    Where do these trolls come from? Thank God for the 1st Ammendment.

  233. 233
    Joe Says:

    “Zimtzicke”. Have to remember that one.

  234. 234
    Zombiehunter Says:

    Hey Craftman, the battlefield is target rich…..wink wink !!

  235. 235
    Powerpoint Ranger Says:

    The term in 230 sounds like a pretty apt description for Joe as well, albeit in a passive-agressive beta male form.

  236. 236
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    @235, my assessment of Joey-boy, based on his not looking up the meaning of Zimtzicke for himself, is that he’s a lazy fuck who wants everyone to do everything for him, including sit on his face.

  237. 237
    Twist Says:

    “I always knew this site was a haven for racists and bullies”

    Strange how this site is so racist that the ones that get blocked or moderated are the ones that make racist remarks.

  238. 238
    Robot Wrangler Says:

    Twist didnt you know the race card is what liberals pull when they are losing an argument.

    Far as I’m concerned OG was probably one of the fobbit MP’s, you know the types that never left the wire and stayed around to make sure the detainees didnt escape via porta john.

  239. 239
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    A haven for racists and bullies?

    Racism:
    These are your words, OG, posted on “Steaming Bowl of Skeet (Updated)

    66ObamaGirl Says:
    February 3rd, 2013 at 5:23 pm
    there is no point for the white house to post photos like this anyway, unless the president can figure out a way to change his skin color none you will change your opinion of him, now matter how many great things he continues to do for this country.

    You referred to skin color, no one else did. You brought it up. None of us did. It was all you. We said nothing about skin color. You did.

    Bullying:

    73ObamaGirl Says:
    February 3rd, 2013 at 5:30 pm
    @44 and what makes you an expert on PTSD? You have nothing to back up your statements other than your opinions and the other morons on this site.

    That was your first post on this column, starting right off trying to rip someone to shreds for no reason.

    Sounds like the big, fat pot calling the kettle black. You refuse to respond to reasonable requests, you change the subject more often and faster than most people change lanes in traffic, you blame everyone else for everything you don’t like, and splatter vainglorious attempts at self-importance on what you perceive to be a captive audience.

    Well, we are no more captive than migrating eagle. But, like all self-important mushrooms that spring up after a rain, you are unconscionably boring. You have nothing important to say. You are, in effect, about as interesting as a bowl of warm Jell-o.

  240. 240
    Twist Says:

    Judging on how naive she is, I bet her job was handing out speeding tickets and making sure everyone was wearing their PT belt on the FOB.

  241. 241
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @239 dog whistle racism is what is commonly practiced on this site.. Look it up I don’t have time to explain it to you.

  242. 242
    A_Proud_Infidel Says:

    Hey 0girl, when were you in the litter box, and what unit did you serve with? To me, you still sound like a welfare flunkie pretending to be a Vet!

  243. 243
    mark plummer Says:

    Joe, How can I get you jump in front of my truck. Please move to hell.

  244. 244
    Joe Says:

    One of life’s little paradoxes – some of the very people who claim to have fought to protect our freedoms as written in the constitution express a desire to kill you when you exercise those very freedoms (e.g., the 1st amendment). Never could figure that one out.

  245. 245
    NHSparky Says:

    “dog whistle racism”…such as, OG?

    Who was it that said, “I’ll have those n****rs voting Democrat for the next hundred years!”

    Which “conscience of the Senate” was a former Grand Kleagle and used the phrase “white n****rs” on FNC in 2001?

    Which party creates policies which create dependency on the government and spread rumors that the “racists” in the GOP are trying to take the vote, etc., away from black people?

    Thanks for playing.

    BTW, Joe–explain how someone wanting you to GDIAF is somehow infringing upon YOUR First Amendment rights, particularly insofar as it is a private individual, not the government, which would like you to eat a hot bowl of STFU.

  246. 246
    NHSparky Says:

    OG–you don’t have “time” to explain, or you can’t define it because you know you’ll have your ample ass handed to you before you hit “Submit Comment” on your next blathering diatribe?

  247. 247
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    Joe … WHO exactly expressed a desire to KILL YOU. Tell me and I will report them directly to the AlGore.net police.

    You see Joe, no one here expressed a desire to KILL YOU.

    So let’s be clear. You are a baiter and NO ONE here expressed a desire to KILL YOU … PERIOD!

  248. 248
    Hondo Says:

    MCPO: nearly correct. But Joe’s a particular and special type of baiter. Now, what’s that word I’m looking for . . . starts with the letter “M”, I think . . . damn, it’s also used in some military rank titles . . . “Major?”, mmmmmm, no . . . .

    Can anyone help me out here? What IS that “M” word I’m looking for to go with Joe the Baiter?

  249. 249
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    OG … you are an idiot.

    The term is Dog Whistle not Dog Whistle Racism … Dog Whistle Racism denoted racism toward … ah … Dog Whistles.

    We in law enforcement use Dog Whistle phrases for officer safety and the military often as well. For example, in dealing with persons like you. EDP or ECKO DELTA PAPA, or Bat Shit Crazy (meaning emotionally disturbed person).

    You took what you heard and made it your own …

    From Wiki:

    Dog-whistle politics is political messaging employing coded language that appears to mean one thing to the general population but has an additional, different or more specific resonance for a targeted subgroup. The phrase is only ever used as a pejorative, because of the inherently deceptive nature of the practice and because the dog-whistle messages are frequently themselves distasteful, for example by empathizing with racist attitudes. It is an analogy to dog whistles, which are built in such a way that their high-frequency whistle is heard by dogs, but is inaudible to humans.

    The term can be distinguished from “code words” used by hospital staff or other specialist workers, in that dog-whistling is specific to the political realm, and the messaging referred to as the dog-whistle has an understandable meaning for a general audience, rather than being incomprehensible.

  250. 250
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    Master Baiter

  251. 251
    Joe Says:

    Water. Duck’s back.

  252. 252
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @242 I was in the Florida National Guard in Ramadi from 2003 to 2004, I spent time at Camp Junction City and Camp Hurricane.

    @247 Hondo and Old Trooper both wished death upon Joe, Hondo wished terminal cancer and Old Trooper said he was going to monkey stomp his vagina. Now that was very mature.

  253. 253
    Hondo Says:

    MCPO: thanks – I think that’s it.

    Like an old, worn-out Onan generator, Joe just keeps coming here to blow smoke, belch filth, strike sparks, backfire – all while stroking that piston back and forth to keep things going.

    Guess everyone has a role in life, if nothing else than as a counterexample.

  254. 254
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @249 shouldn’t you be stopping and frisking poor black and latinos instead of insulting me and removing all doubt to everyone that you’re an idiot.

  255. 255
    Sharky Says:

    Joe and those like him say things like the above because in their heart they realize that they don’t amount to a pimple on the ass of a man like Chris Kyle. Chris did more good things on any single given day than they will do in their entire lives. When men like Chris die, our entire nation mourns, and he will never ever be forgotten. When Joe dies there will be a couple of paragraphs in the hometown obituary and within hours nobody will remember or care who he was or the fact that he is gone.

    So, for me at least, Joe and his ilk get a big fat YAAAAWN. Not even worthy of getting my blood pressure up.

    RIP Chris. You will be missed greatly brother.

  256. 256
    Maj Wood Says:

    All I can say is this Hero was doing his job in the shit. All you heartless libtards need to be thankful for people like Chris he was there protecting your freedom. If you dont enjoy your freedom go live somewhere else you POS.

    Semper fi
    RIP Chris you will be missed

  257. 257
    Redacted1775 Says:

    #252 is a perfect example of how OG is weak minded and can’t think for herself: She drops the race card at every opportunity, along with the “my husband is a grunt so that makes me a grunt” mindset. Definetly a dependapotamus.

  258. 258
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Dependapotamus! Excellent!

  259. 259
    Hondo Says:

    ObamaGirl: geez – are you a freaking 8th grade special ed student or something? Or are you simply so damn stupid you cannot comprehend written English that’s not of the “see Dick and Jane” style?

    Quit deliberately lying about what I said above.

    You’ve repeatedly claimed, falsely, that I wished terminal cancer on Joe. The fact that you’re lying has been repeatedly brought to your attention.

    Since you’re apparently too damn lazy to scroll up and re-read earlier comments, for your benefit here are verbatim quotes of my comments 9 and 20 above, in italics, with emphasis added:

    Comment 9:
    Kinda hard to protect oneself from getting shot in the back by someone, Joe. But you knew that, you sonofabitch.

    There’s only a short list of people on this earth on whom I’d wish terminal cancer. You’re working hard to get on that list.

    To anyone of low-normal intelligence or better, “working hard to get on” a list clearly means “not on the list yet”. You missed that. One possibility is that you’re a truly “special” idiot. If so, maybe you should get Mr. Smith, your kindly special ed teacher, to help you interpret comments here at TAH next time before you open your mouth and prove yourself an even bigger idiot. The other possibility is that you’re deliberately lying. My money’s on that option.

    Now, let’s look at comment 20:
    Joe: maybe that was Karma paying you back for dodging the draft and letting others do your dirty work during Vietnam while you stayed home fat, dumb, happy, and safe.

    Work on your reading comprehension, imbecile. I said you were getting close to me wishing you that demise. However, even a despicable dipshit like you hasn’t done quite enough to make it onto that list. Yet.

    But you’re getting real close.

    That should be explicit enough for even an idiot like you to understand, ObamaGirl. If it’s not – go get Mr. Smith to explain it to you.

    You claim you served in the FL ARNG in Iraq? Yeah, right. Ain’t buying it without proof.

    Why? You’ve proven yourself nothing but a shameless but unskilled liar in your comments above, ObamaGirl. You’re obviously willing to lie about trivial things – repeatedly – even when the proof you’re lying is obvious and you’ve been called on it multiple times.

    So you tell us: since you’ve already proven yourself to be a damned liar, why in the hell should we believe a single claim you make about any alleged military service without some kind of proof? Hell, after what I’ve seen from you I’m guessing you lie about the color of the sky just on general principle and to keep in practice.

  260. 260
    Old Trooper Says:

    @252: Wishing death upon someone and saying “I want to kill you” are 2 totally different things, but you knew that.

  261. 261
    Veritas Omnia Vincit Says:

    @254 He wouldn’t have to stop and frisk them if they weren’t responsible for 90% of the murders in NYC last year….that’s not racist darlin, that’s an FBI factoid….being latino/black in NYC means you are 12 times more likely than a white or asian to be either a victim of a homicide or the perpetrator of a homicide. Stopping and frisking them at a rate 11 times higher than whites or asians would be sound police work just based on the statistics. Of course I am certain that won’t fit in well with our PC society so we will just continue not frisking them at a higher rate so they can continue committing their crimes.

  262. 262
    Hondo Says:

    And right on cue, ObamaGirl again plays the “race card” by making a wild and unsubstantiated allegation (comment 254). It’s right out of the lefty argument playbook: “When you have no valid response – change the subject, preferably by attacking your opponent.”

    Oh, and trust me, ObamaGirl – you haven’t seen MCPO begin to insult you. Yet.

  263. 263
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    @249 Obama Girl

    Why would you suggest: “shouldn’t you be stopping and frisking poor black and latinos”.

    The improper, insensitive, and careless use of such demonyms clearly proves that you are a “Race Baiter” and a “Racist”.

    Personally, the use of such words is not in my lexicon.

    The idiot part is far fromm the truth! My educational accomplishments, stellar military career, and good standing in the my choosen profession and community would rather support the opposite of “idiot”.

    But thanks for trying!

  264. 264
    Powerpoint Ranger Says:

    When one person claims to hear something that nobody else does, that smacks of paranoid delusion and not “dog whistling”.

  265. 265
    Robot Wrangler Says:

    I can see it now “hmm they are using logic and I cannot defend against it”. Straining the two brain cells she does have she comes up with a brilliant idea…”You guys are racist.”

    Darlin it is a tired argument that wins you no points in a debate, it is the last bastion of those who have no argument. In my humble opinion it is the adult version of the uhh uhh no you argument kids use.

  266. 266
    Anonymous Says:

    RIP Chris Kyle.

    He fought to preserve the First Amendment right of the leftists to say and be as stupid as they want to be, and they are well taking advantage of that right.

  267. 267
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    @265, I think you’re giving the dimwit FAR too much credit. Only one cranial ganglion is firing.

  268. 268
    perhaps Says:

    maybe if he wasn’t so happy taking lives of brown people this may not have happened

  269. 269
    A_Proud_Infidel Says:

    0bamaGunk, you didn’t mention what unit, I’ve served overseas as part of 2nd ID and 53rd BCT, two tours with 53rd and one near the Korean DMZ as part of 2ID.

  270. 270
    Joe Says:

    @260 – pretty fine distinction

  271. 271
    UpNorth Says:

    Hey, Joey, you promised you were leaving, you can’t keep your word at all, can you?

  272. 272
    PintoNag Says:

    #268 Be assured that every life he took is one that would have happily taken yours.

  273. 273
    Curt Says:

    @268, I’m guessing you don’t understand the role he played…you know, shooting bad guys (you called them “brown people”, you racist prig) that were planting IED’s… Hell, I wasn’t a grunt, wasn’t there, and I know that.
    Raised a glass already, will again. RIP, Chris.

  274. 274
    Joe Says:

    @ 271 – If you’d stop dissing me in absentia, I wouldn’t feel the need to come back.

  275. 275
    Glenn G. Says:

    RIP Chris Kyle

    Peace to your family and friends!

  276. 276
    WkAvngr211 Says:

    Hey Joe even when you are on here, you get dissed “in absentia”, with you being brainless and all. OG, again, please do not breed. There is enough stoopid in the world already.

  277. 277
    Cal Says:

    Thanks Chris Kyle for the training military and police to be better fighters. Such training will make it easier for them to efforce the edicts of Obama.

  278. 278
    Jimmy Says:

    Just to remind everyone freedom isn’t free. If it weren’t for our american hero’s like Chris Kyle and many others you would be either dead or speaking another language about now. Rest in Peace Chris any normal person knows the world mourns your passing. Joe move to Iraq and see if you fit in there, because you don’t here.

  279. 279
    Billy Says:

    You cant be mad at that P.O.S. Joe, Its red blooded americans like myself and my fellow soldier bretheren that give people like him freedom to say crap like that. Just always remember Chris protected his right to speak another day and Joe or anyone else can deny that. Thanks Chris Kyle for protecting my rights, my families rights and my fellow soliers rights, we have your back and we will never forget.

    RIP CHRIS KYLE

  280. 280
    68W58 Says:

    OG-the thing about dog whistles is that if you can hear them, you’re the dog.

  281. 281
    Just Plain Jason Says:

    I am going to do something that I find myself doing more and more often. I am going to break Kafabe and address Obama Girl as Jason DS as some people may know me here in real life. I get it you have your own stuff going on and you are wound up tight sometimes it is just best to walk away and let it go. I am quite familiar wit PTSD and different treatments, trust me I have tried them. Just recently I have discovered what many call “ballistic therapy” and believe it or not it helps for some people. Chris Kyle was helping other guys with troubles they were having and someone for whatever reason murdered him and Chris Littlefield. Getting pissed at everyone else over whatever is going on with you isn’t going to help with whatever is going on with you.

  282. 282
    mike Says:

    R.I.P chief eight bells your watch is over may you find all you’ve hoped and struggled for you’ve done the navy proud and we’re all honored and thankful that you were here keeping all those near you safe.

  283. 283
    YatYas Says:

    Obama Girl, Joe and the other jerk-offs running their pie holes; well aren’t you lucky this is a free country and you can sound off with your ignorant petty rants. However, being it is a free country; when you put yourselves on the skyline, other people have the right to verbally put fire on your dumb-ass. It’s because of supposed veterans like you, Obama Girl that I don’t automatically respect someone just because they served.

  284. 284
    Smitty Says:

    i came here because i saw a post about a good friend of mine, now i see that somehow remembering him positively is linked to racism? can someone explain how anything in Chris’ life showed racism? blatant or masked? Chris cared for man kind, and did his best to eliminate the evil that threatened it.

    here is a little history lesson for those who wish to claim conservatism as racism.

    Democrats were pro-slavery, Republicans were opposed.

    Lincoln was a republican

    Democrats started the KKK

    Democrats attempted to filibuster the 1964 civil rights act

    Democrats openly admitted that abortion was a “solution to the black problem” (susan coleman)

    Chris never once voted democrat, didnt side with any of their racist view points, and did all he could and gave all he could to help anyone in need. he never once cared what color anyone was.

    also of note, the majority of insurgents in iraq are of persian decent. more often then not, they have bright blue eyes and light colored hair and skin

  285. 285
    Redacted1775 Says:

    Smitty, that’s OG, the resident lunatic/attention whore. She’s dumb as a bag of hammers and is hardly worthy of speaking Chief Kyle’s name. Most just wish she’d go away.

  286. 286
    Smitty Says:

    my personal invitation to her, bring your retarded oppinions to Chris’ funeral. ill be waiting. you can recognize my as the 6’2 “brown” guy wearing a tan berret. cant remember once that Chris ever cared what color i was, just gave me hell for being a Ranger

  287. 287
    Nathan Says:

    Predictable and rehashed responses. I didn’t expect much else. Nazis, protection of freedom, defending our glorious nation…zzz

    The real question is who is going to protect the freedom of the ignorant troops and innocent civilians in the middle east from YOU? But wait, they are just savages and our way of thinking must be superior right? I mean after all there is no possible way that you could be the same as they are but merely on the opposite side? Your way of thinking and religious beliefs happen to magically be the true ones. What a coincidence!

    On a side note, I do own guns and I have used them. Not that it changes anything.

  288. 288
    NHSparky Says:

    Nathan, GDIAF, pretty please.

    You have added nothing of value to the discussion, so poof–begone.

  289. 289
    Nathan Says:

    So much violence on this board. For some it seems the only solution to problems is fighting and killing. Both in America and in the Middle East.

    As I said when I first posted and will repeat, disturbing.

  290. 290
    NHSparky Says:

    Hey Nathan–you still do those monthly drills in Seoul? You remember, the ones where they sound the sirens cause the North is coming (again)?

  291. 291
    Nathan Says:

    I’m not sure but just in case, we should go drop some bombs.

  292. 292
    NHSparky Says:

    Congratulations on your complete and total inability to get the point, son.

  293. 293
    Nathan Says:

    And yours as well.

  294. 294
    Hondo Says:

    You might want to keep the fact that you own weapons to yourself, Nathan. Firearms ownership or sales by private individuals in Korea is generally illegal. You might end up having to answer a few questions if the Seopul police read the comments here.

    But at least today you’re not pirating service from your employer to comment here.

  295. 295
    Nathan Says:

    My guns as well as my citizenship current reside in the United States.

    I wasn’t pirating. Seoul has free Wifi internet all over.

  296. 296
    Putin Says:

    Nathan says the truth. You fucking stupid yankees with your bomb drones are the big threat to peace in this world. You are all disgraced.

  297. 297
    Robot Wrangler Says:

    Tell us Putin where do you hail from? I bet you money I could say your country of orign is a disgrace as well, people in glass houses and stones you know.

  298. 298
    Putin Says:

    We would break you.

  299. 299
    Redacted1775 Says:

    OK IVAN…Someone’s watched Rocky 4 one too many times…

  300. 300
    Hondo Says:

    Someone commenting from France that claims to be “Putin”. I think that might be a first here at TAH.

    Does the phrase “dustbin of history” mean anything to you, “Putin”?

  301. 301
    ObamaGirl Says:

    @286 I never said Mr. Kyle was a racist, I was talking about the regular posters on this blog ie NHSparky, Old Trooper, Lilyea, Hondo and many more.

  302. 302
    Putin Says:

    That is where stupid America and her corrupt allies would be if not for the heroic efforts of my people in the Great Patriotic War.

  303. 303
    UpNorth Says:

    Joey boy? “Dissing” you would imply some degree of respect to begin with. Don’t worry, there’s no respect there, so, it’s not possible to disrespect you.
    Just go, boy, the adults are conversing, and take your alter egos with you.

  304. 304
    Redacted1775 Says:

    These guys?! ;)

    http://www.duffelblog.com/2013/01/french-troops-push-further-into-mali-desperately-try-to-surrender/

  305. 305
    Putin Says:

    I fought along your Armies in 1st Gulf War. You are cowards.

  306. 306
    PintoNag Says:

    What’s the old term? Low theater? Something like that. All I can say is, somebody left the door open. Again.

  307. 307
    Hondo Says:

    Putin: no one here cares about the opinion of an old Marxist who doesn’t know reality from a Rocky movie or a drug-addled dream, zhopa. Get lost.

  308. 308
    Twist Says:

    Russia didn’t participate in the 1st Gulf War.

  309. 309
    Valmont Says:

    Ooh! M. Putin has misspelled his name. It is actually Putain.

  310. 310
    Hondo Says:

    Valmont: or maybe Poutine:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine

  311. 311
    Hondo Says:

    ObamaGirl: given the photos posted elsewhere on this site of Jonn and his wife, you just once again proved your stupidity.

    And remember: you’re the only one playing the race card above. The rest of us are reading your comments and thinking, “She can’t actually be that dumb.”

  312. 312
    Twist Says:

    I know I just married a Hispanic woman to hide my racism. sarc/

  313. 313
    Valmont Says:

    Hondo: Ça, c’est les frites au fromage et sauce. M. le Putain est tout grand dadais.

  314. 314
    Just Plain Jason Says:

    OG I was trying to give you an out to stop the pain…this really hurts. You are now pointing around calling everyone racists. I know it is the last act of a desperate man…I don’t care if this is the first act of Henry the V.. so you get… NOTHING!!! You lose! GOOD DAY, SIR! Mr. Madison, what you’ve just said … is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul…

    YOU LOSE!!!!! Call it a day…go home…forget it…for fucks sake you have nothing to add.

    (I know I blatantly ripped off three movies to make this frankenquote up)

  315. 315
    Hondo Says:

    (chuckling) Valmont: Missed that the first time. But I think “poutine” is apropos, too. In his case, made with leftover stale fries, week-old gravy, and moldy cheese.

  316. 316
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    ;)

  317. 317
    Smaj Says:

    Rest In Peace Chris Kyle. It is sad that slimy provocateurs hijacked this thread meant to honor Chief Kyle. Calling those they disagree with “racists” and “bullies” is the default position of the left when reason and facts don’t go their way.

  318. 318
    NHSparky Says:

    OG, OG, OG, you silly bint. Come around my family as we gather each Christmas and call me a racist. I and my family would laugh our asses off at you.

    Much like I laugh my ass off at pretty much every idiotic statement you make. I’ve always wondered what kind of statements and insanity come from the mind of a tertiary syphilis patient. Now I know.

  319. 319
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    Yo Oblama Gurl …

    You still have not answered my inquiry:

    @249 Obama Girl

    Why would you suggest: “shouldn’t you be stopping and frisking poor black and latinos”.

    The improper, insensitive, and careless use of such demonyms clearly proves that you are a “Race Baiter” and a “Racist”.

    Personally, the use of such words is not in my lexicon.

    But thanks for trying!

  320. 320
    PintoNag Says:

    Harry, sweetie, if you’re going to insult us, at least use an insult we understand. I believe the correct term for it is “ventilating.” Otherwise, it makes it sound like he was good at playing the machines in Vegas.

    And exactly what would you know about great Americans?

  321. 321
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    Jonn, Hondo … who is this Harry above and where are they blathering from?

  322. 322
    NHSparky Says:

    It was great Americans who kicked the shit out of his ancestors so we could form our own nation, and it was great Americans who saved his worthless ass twice in the last century, as well as keeping them from all having to learn Russian afterwards.

    Meh.

  323. 323
    Harry Says:

    Great Americans? Does the word oxymoron have any signifigance on your side of the pond?

  324. 324
    Twist Says:

    @324, Yep, just like dental hygene is an oxymoron on your side of the pond.

  325. 325
    Harry Says:

    You’ve watched too much “Saving Private Ryan”, chav. We kept the Nazis at bay long before your yob grandparents got off their arses and got involved. If you want to know what stopped Hitler it was a little thing called Operation Barbarossa.

  326. 326
    Twist Says:

    It was the pressure from the Eastern front that pulled off some of the pressure on the Soviets that allowed them to reorganize and counter attack.

  327. 327
    Harry Says:

    The Soviets won that bloody war, you yanks were a paltry sideshow by comparison.

  328. 328
    Harry Says:

    Why don’t you search for Lyudmila Pavlichenko? Now there’s a sniper who actually slotted bad guys, not third world teens aiming a rocket launcher backwards. A true hero, and she did it without all that fancy bollocks you have today.

  329. 329
    Twist Says:

    If the “yanks” where a “paltry sideshow” that makes you nothing but a vender selling peanuts to the crowd.

  330. 330
    Hondo Says:

    Harry the Poofter above appears to be posting from the London area. Probably one of the crowd who was recently protesting having to (gasp!) actually pay something towards their own college education vice get it free (AKA the British equivalent of the OWS movement).

    It’s telling that he appears to idolize those in the proverbial “dustbin of history”. Hey Harry: sod off, ye bloody arsewipe.

  331. 331
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    Harry is British:

    bloody
    yanks
    palty
    arses
    pond

    Who the “F” uses such words? The British …

    Twist … you got the “dental hygene” thingy spot on!

  332. 332
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    Ah Ha ….

  333. 333
    rb325th Says:

    Russkie who learned British English…

  334. 334
    Hondo Says:

    Oh, and Poofter-boy Harry: in comparison to this guy, Pavlichenko was a piker:

    http://www.badassoftheweek.com/hayha.html

    I believe all of those he offed were Soviets engaged in a war of aggression against his country, too.

  335. 335
    Hondo Says:

    Harry: we all end up dead, fool. We all pass into history.

    In Chief Kyle’s case, people will remember him and honor his memory. He did something worthwhile, and which mattered. You’re an annoyance and of no consequence.

    In your case, no one will know – or care – when you’re gone.

    Except for the dogs. The dogs will remember you when they use your grave as a loo.

  336. 336
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    rubbish = British Trash = Harry
    bin = empty container = Harry head

  337. 337
    Hondo Says:

    rb325th: maybe, but I’d guess not. The UK has plenty of home-grown Commutards.

  338. 338
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    goatherder with AK-47 = Sniper’s target of opportunity

  339. 339
    Harry Says:

    I don’t knw him, but he sounds a good deal more educated than your stupid, smelly arse.

  340. 340
    PintoNag Says:

    Harry’s aggravated because we got involved before Hitler taught ‘em how to speak German.

    Oh, and Harry dearest? My father helped save your lovely country.

    You’re so welcome. Any time, just give us a ring. We absolutely adore helping worthless scabs who don’t remember who their friends are.

  341. 341
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    Dearest Harry,

    If you would please keep my smelly arse out of this epic display of international verbal intercourse. I have a medical condition which permits such noxious displeasures.

    With respect to your tomfoolery and paltry attempts to humor, bait, and or other wise bother us from across the pond … Kiss My Royal Irish Ass!

  342. 342
    Harry Says:

    There’s a little thing called the Battle of Britain, maybe you’ve heard of it? Actually maybe you haven’t, I know yank schools aren’t worth a shite. Now sod off, and let the grown-ups talk. Nevermind, I’m the only one here.

  343. 343
    Hondo Says:

    PintoNag: actually, I think Harry’s simply jealous because he’s seen a few US porn flicks and realizes that he’s . . . . underwhelming in comparison to even a below-average Yank.

    But I could be wrong. (smile)

  344. 344
    Harry Says:

    Mcpo, if I had one of your worthless American dollars for everytime I ran into some lame plastic paddy like yourself on holiday from the states I’d be as rich as the prince I share my Christian name with.

  345. 345
    Hondo Says:

    Harry: oh, you mean that little aerial squabble when Hitler quit prematurely – about 2 weeks before the RAF ran out of pilots? Yeah, we heard about that.

    The RAF fought valiantly. But they were indeed about 2 weeks or so away from collapse when Hitler called off Sea Lion. That – and not the Battle of Britain – is why you’re not speaking German today, fool.

    When you’re fighting a nation run by a strategic novice who won’t listen to his professional military advisers, sometimes you get lucky.

  346. 346
    Anonymous Says:

    I guess Harry forgot that there where British snipers in Iraq

  347. 347
    PintoNag Says:

    @347 ;)

    Now HARRY is a troll. I adore them. Cheap entertainment, and no need to worry about their feelings. They don’t have any.

  348. 348
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    It is MCPO … as in Master Chief Petty Officer, you slobbering disease inflicted socialist wanker!

    HA!

  349. 349
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    BTW … I hear the Queen likes Irishmen!

    Not because we are so BIG … because she can have her tea, biscut and an Irishman all at the same time!

    HA!

  350. 350
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Having fun over there at the Snack & Surf, are you, Harry? Or is it the Khyrat?

  351. 351
    Twist Says:

    I find it ironic that the guy basicaly calling Americans assholes is the same guy that came on a memorial thread being a dick.

  352. 352
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    I think the Queen satire angered him. He probably went to the pub and then reported me to a bobbie, who in turn filed a “Report of Offensive Offensives Against thy Queen” report (3 carbon copies, white goes to Buckingham Palace, yellow goes to bobbie, and pink goes to the pub).

  353. 353
    Hondo Says:

    Actually, MCPO, Harry the Wanker here seems to have pissed Jonn off enough to get moderated. It’s Jonn’s call on whether or not we ever hear from Wanker-boy again.

  354. 354
    NHSparky Says:

    Harry, having been to London on several occasions, might I say this about your overpriced, overcrowded, pretentious asshole of a city and its inhabitants:

    Piss off. We’re here to remember someone who you wouldn’t even qualify to be a boil on his ass. And remember him we will. Not for who he “slotted”, but for the sacrifices he made for his nation and for his comrades-in-arms.

    Would that you had one-thousandth the character, honor, and integrity of Chief Kyle.

  355. 355
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    Hondo … thank God someone is supervising us!

    I did not want to go Queen on him … but he made me do it!

  356. 356
    Isnala Says:

    Harry two words for you: “Lend Lease”, with out which you would be speaking Deutsch.
    -here endith the history lesson.

    RIP Chief, you fly with angels now.

    The soldier stood and faced his God,
    Which must always come to pass;
    He hoped his shoes were shining bright,
    Just as brightly as his brass.

    “Step forward now, soldier,
    How shall I deal with you?
    Have you turned the other cheek?
    To my church have you been true?”

    The soldier squared his shoulders and said,
    “No, Lord, I guess I ain’t;
    Because those of us who carry guns,
    Can’t always be a saint.

    I’ve had to work most Sundays,
    And at times my talk was rough;
    I’ve had to break your rules my Lord,
    Because the world is awfully tough.

    But, I never took a thing
    That wasn’t mine to keep;
    Though I worked a lot of overtime,
    When the bills got just too steep.

    And I never passed a cry for help,
    Though at times I shook with fear;
    And sometimes … God forgive me,
    I’ve wept unmanly tears.

    I know I don’t deserve a place
    Among the people here;
    They never wanted me around,
    Except to calm their fears.

    If you’ve a place for me here, Lord,
    It needn’t be so grand;
    I never expected or had too much,
    But if you don’t, I’ll understand.”

    There was a silence all around the throne,
    Where the saints often trod;
    As the soldier waited quietly,
    For the judgment of his God.

    “Step forward now, soldier,
    You’ve borne your burdens well;
    Come walk peacefully on Heaven’s streets,
    You’ve done your time in HELL!”
    ~ Author: Sgt.Joshua Helterbran ~

    -Ish

  357. 357
    A_Proud_Infidel Says:

    @ Isnala, AMEN!

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    FloridaFlyer Says:

    Let’s stop the ugly fighting and debating and turn this thread into something honorable for Chris Kyle. He was a Christian and I’m sure he would prefer only positive comments versus the ugliness portrayed on here.

    Chris Kyle defended our country for all of us — no matter what side of the political fence you sit. Let’s try to be as honorable as he was.

    God bless, Chris Kyle and those who are still fighting for freedom.

    Thank you.

  359. 359
    Lucky Says:

    I’m working as a tobacconist now, Chris was a cigar guy, so tonight, myself and a cigar rep for one o the brands will be lighting up in Chris’ honor at the shop.

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    Ex-PH2 Says:

    I posted this @177, but it was overrun by bile, so I’m reposting it, now that things seem to have calmed down.

    Now cracks a noble heart.
    Good night, sweet prince
    And flights of angels
    Sing thee to thy rest.

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    Lucky Says:

    Shit, that last one cracked my tough guy demeanor. I’m a sucker for Shakespeare

  362. 362
    Lucky Says:

    “There is special providence in the death of a sparrow…”

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    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    Good Idea # 358 … so here it is again:

    The Navy Hymn

    Eternal Father, Strong to save,
    Whose arm hath bound the restless wave,
    Who bid’st the mighty Ocean deep
    Its own appointed limits keep;
    O hear us when we cry to thee,
    for those in peril on the sea.

    O Christ! Whose voice the waters heard
    And hushed their raging at Thy word,
    Who walked’st on the foaming deep,
    and calm amidst its rage didst sleep;
    Oh hear us when we cry to Thee
    For those in peril on the sea!

    Most Holy spirit! Who didst brood
    Upon the chaos dark and rude,
    And bid its angry tumult cease,
    And give, for wild confusion, peace;
    Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee
    For those in peril on the sea!

    O Trinity of love and power!
    Our brethren shield in danger’s hour;
    From rock and tempest, fire and foe,
    Protect them wheresoe’er they go;
    Thus evermore shall rise to Thee,
    Glad hymns of praise from land and sea.

    RIP … SOC(SEAL) Chris Kyle, USN (Ret.)

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    Ex-PH2 Says:

    362, 363 — Now this is much better.

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    Lucky Says:

    MCPO, goddamn it is everybody trying to make me tear up at work???? That’s one of my favorite hymns

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    Lucky Says:

    The Army equivalent to Eternal Father:

    The Mansions of the Lord

    To fallen soldiers let us sing,
    Where no rockets fly nor bullets wing,
    Our broken brothers let us bring
    To the Mansions of the Lord

    No more weeping,
    No more fight,
    No friends bleeding through the night,
    Just Devine embrace,
    Eternal light,
    In the Mansions of the Lord

    Where no mothers cry
    And no children weep,
    We shall stand and guard
    Though the angels sleep,
    Oh, through the ages let us keep
    The Mansions of the Lord

  367. 367
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Yes, we are.

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    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    Lucky – Silently weep everyday, as I do, for it is a chilling and stark reminder of what great sacrifices are made each and every day by our warfighters.

  369. 369
    Lucky Says:

    Thanks EX PH2! Well if anyone’s in Arlington around 5:30 or 6, stop by Ballston and light up a cigar in honor of SOC Kyle, Shaitan al Ramadi.

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    Hondo Says:

    Guess I’ll repeat myself here also:

    Under the wide and starry sky
    Dig the grave and let me lie:
    Glad did I live and gladly die,
    And I laid me down with a will.

    This be the verse you ‘grave for me:
    “Here he lies where he long’d to be;
    Home is the sailor, home from the sea,
    And the hunter home from the hill.”

    Rest in peace, Chief Kyle – brother in arms. Rest in peace.

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    Lucky Says:

    MCPO, I will forever carry a reminder of that on my body. I have a Soldier’s Cross and John 15:13, tattooed pretty fraking big on either side of my ribs. I was a Delayed Entry Soldier in the Reserve in 2002, still on high school, I packed up my unit as they left for Kuwait. I lost a steady stream of friends starting July 1st of 2003 with the Company 1SG, a great man and mentor, and it hasn’t gotten easier in the last decade. I’ve grown up with this war, I feel like an old man at 28. Shit happens, but this? My personal opinion is that the 25 year old piece of fecal matter is faking PTSD and stole the truck because he wanted it. Chris and his buddy just got in the way. I want that assholes scalp

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    Twist Says:

    I never thought that this is where I’d settle down

    I thought I’d die an old man back in my hometown

    They gave me this plot of land me and some other men for a job well done

    There’s a big white house sits on a hill just up the road

    The man inside he cried the day they brought me home

    They folded up a flag and told my mom and dad we’re proud of your son

    And I’m proud to be on this peaceful piece of property

    I’m on sacred ground and I’m in the best of company

    I’m thankful for those thankful for the things I’ve done

    I can rest in peace I’m one of the chosen ones I made it to Arlington

    I remember daddy brought me here when I was eight

    We searched all day to find out where my granddad lay

    And when we finally found that cross

    He said “son this is what it cost to keep us free” Now here I am

    A thousand stones away from him

    He recognized me on the first day I came in

    And it gave me a chill when he clicked his heels and saluted me.

    And everytime I hear twenty-one guns

    I know they brought another hero home to us

    We’re thankful for those thankful for the things we’ve done

    We can rest in peace ’cause we are the chosen ones

    We made it to arlington yea dust to dust

    Don’t cry for us we made it to arlington

    I know it is a country song by Trace Adkins and not Shakespeare, but I thought it is appropriate.

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    Isnala Says:

    Understandable Gumbo and not to make light of, or in any way say that those other people’s loss/sacrafice isn’t as great, however there are 2 primary drivers of this story: 1. Many people who author and/or read this blog knew Chief Kyle and not just from TV and his book, but have served and/or met/spoken with him (also the biggest factors in my mind,) and 2. Chief’s work after his retirement to help fellow Vets is a shining example and one to emulate of us taking care of our own, especailly with the bang-up job the Government has done trying to do so.

    -Ish

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    Jack Shack Says:

    Forget “gun culture” for a second. This guy made it his life mission to brag and gloat as much as he can about the huge number of people he killed, and how they’re all “savages” and “subhumans” and linking them to things like abusing women, etc. that I seriously doubt he witnessed through his sniper scope (which gave him his only glimpse of his victims).

    Therefore, I don’t know on what planet you jackoffs can say we’re way out of line in giving him exactly the same treatment in death that he gave the people he killed. What I’m doing is infinitely less grave since I’m not the one who killed Chris, just someone who takes great pleasure in seeing nature’s justice on a mass-murdering neocon Arab-hater.

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    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Oh, here we go.

    So, Jack Wagon, you never saw any of those news videos coming out of Afghanistan not so very long ago, of women being executed in a soccer staium or beaten in public? You didn’t see ABC’s investigation into the madras where boys from age 5 are taught to hate Americans and want to kill them, and said so on camera?

    There’s a hell of a lot of other stuff that you missed, but since you lead a sheltered life, you need to be reminded that Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, the so-called blind sheik, was responsible for the first attack on the World Trade Center in 1993, using a truck bomb parked in the parking garage. It killed 6 people, injured several thousand, and created a crater 100 feet in diameter, several stories deep and several stories high. The attack was planned by a group of conspirators including Ramzi Yousef, Mahmud Abouhalima, Mohammad Salameh, Nidal A. Ayyad, Abdul Rahman Yasin and Ahmad Ajaj. They received financing from Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, Yousef’s uncle.

    If that doesn’t fit into your meme, then let me bring up the four hijackings financed by Osama bin Laden, in which the hijackers flew planes loaded with American citizens and their children into the two tower of the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a hayfield in Shanksville, PA.

    You want to go over that mass-murdering neoncon Arab-hater bit againg? Should I bring up the destruction by Saddam Hussein of villages and homes belonging to the marsh Arabs in southern Iraq, the Iraqi people he murdered and ordered to be murdered, and the Kurds he used as guinea pigs when he was experimenting with nerve gas. That was all on television, on the news. I can include the Kuwaitis he executed and tortured when he invaded Kuwait to grab its oilfields and access to shippping, and the way his troops dynamited the oilfields and did massive damage to the environment of the Persian Gulf and the desert.

    Shall I bring up more? I have a wealth of information as backup.

    You, on the other hand, have nothing.

  376. 376
    Lucky Says:

    One, fuck nugget, Chris never gloated or bragged, he was a true silent professional, he went out of his way NOT TO. Two, those “innocent Iraqis?” Guess what, most of then weren’t Iraqi, but foreign fighters who went to Iraq for the sole purpose of killing westerners and Iraqis, and Milano were white skinned Chechens or Tunisians, Jordanians, etc. they were ENEMY COMBATANTS, kills, not “victims”. If you truly believe that they are “victims” you are one sad, sick, little dicked mother fucker. You are the epitome of fucking stupid, you make Ron Paul look like Einstein. And that’s saying something. I cannot believe you don’t have the god damned common courtesy to show some respect for the dead, especially since he was a better man than you, Gunga Din! I swear on all that is Holy, someone should pimp slap your Mother with their ring hand for the sheer insult to the rest of the world that is her allowing you to make it into adulthood.

  377. 377
    Lucky Says:

    Sorry guys, that filthy little C_m Dumpster set me off, I’m sick and tired of people denigrating Chris’ memory, Snipers, and allowing idiots like Routh and Poe to get away with fake claims of PTS, it’s chickenshit, and there really should be a punishment involved

  378. 378
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    @377 – And you think you’re alone in that?

  379. 379
    Lucky Says:

    Definitely not, was apologizing for my outburst, I’m now smoking a Perdomo Lot 23 Maduro in an effort to calm the fuck down and relax, and in honor of Chris Kyle, he would light a Stogie up after each mission.

  380. 380
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water, eh? Naw, the hagfish are always waiting.

  381. 381
    MCPO in PJ's with Popcorn Says:

    Hey jack fuck … Last Friday I spent the day with his former CDR. Would you be willing to repeat this bullshit to his face and the company he keeps?

  382. 382
    Lucky Says:

    I was fighting the urge to cross collar, triangle or rear naked choke the asshole

  383. 383
    Jack Shack Says:

    Ex-PH2, that’s what you people (neocons) do. You never make a direct justification for your conflicts. All you do is tell us your version of how weeeealy weeealy baaaaad “those people” are. You guys are known to bring up Saudi practices and pin them on Saddam Hussein, the first Arab leader to abolish shariah courts and replace them with a full common law system (it’s back to shariah, now, in great new Iran flavor). You bring up random shit left and right that doesn’t have a passing resemblance to a true casus belli, but is only there to make people think “ewww those people are just all around icky, let’s just kill them all.” This is the attitude Chris had and while there’s probably no superhero residing in outer space if there was one he would roast this bloodthirsty redneck knuckeldragger piece of dogshit in a spit rod in hell with limbs tied together an apple in his mouth.

    As for Saddam’s atrocities, all of the major ones were in the late 80s and early 90s, and yes there is a statute of limitations on using such things as an excuse. Or else what’s to stop us from seizing, say, France and justifying it with their atrocities in Algeria in the 1960s?

    Bin Laden has always said in his propaganda videos from the 1990s that he believes the US must be attacked because otherwise it will never stop bombing and brutalizing Muslims. In all of his videos, he counts one American act of mass-slaughter (Iraq bombings & sanctions for 10 years, arming Israeli settlers and soldiers, and putting troops in Saudi Arabia). If he hates the things you and others suggest, then why would he pick the more religious western country by a mile? If cultural and religious sensibilities are the problem, most European countries make a better target than us. But those countries mind their own business and don’t invade others for no reason.

    By the way ex-PH I’m not “sheltered.” I guarantee you I traveled far more, seen a lot more (I venture far behind the typical tourist zones), and have a far less naive worldview than you, even at my relatively young age. You think opposing wars of aggression is silly college-age idealism. What’s next, calling those opposed to baby-rape a bunch of prudes? I never advocated universal love or any of that bullshit, just that government stop behaving around the world in a matter that if done by individuals would be seen as sociopathic.

    As for you “Lucky,” if you think he didn’t brag about all his kills and really rub in how he feels zero remorse and says “they’re all savages” then that’s your problem for coming to a message board discussing a guy you clearly didn’t bother seeing the interview of. Now go kill yourself, you fucking brain-dead asshole. Now run along before I bang your mom and make you my stepson, and move your bedtime up. (directed at Lucky, not Ex-PH2)

  384. 384
    Lucky Says:

    MCPO, I used to eat my dinner (regular breakfast, I was 3rd watch) with a Senior Chief from Team 4, I wonder how he’d take the news of this asshole denigrating Chris…

  385. 385
    MCPO in PJ's with Popcorn Says:

    Hondo do you have a city and state for Jack the Quack?

  386. 386
    Jonn Lilyea Says:

    Everyone wave goodbye to Jack.

  387. 387
    Lucky Says:

    See the interview? Fucktard, I’ve READ HIS FUCKING BOOK. I’ve met his friends and employees and some of his SEAL buddies, I have more insight on him and what he said than some anonymous little dick licker like you. Hahahaha wowwwww! Did you guys hear this? Dude, for one, my old man is still around, good luck fucking my mom, he’s a Force Reconnaissance type, he’ll kill you, skull fuck you and then use you for target practice. Nice try, thanks for playing, go suck start a shotgun like you do Ron Paul’s cock

  388. 388
    Hondo Says:

    MCPO: Riyahd, Ar Riyad, Saudi Arabia. Wave goodbye to the tool as Jonn sends him on his way.

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    MCPO in PJ's with Popcorn Says:

    Thanks jonn.

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    NHSparky Says:

    I’m rapidly starting to lose patience with these fucktards.

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    Retired Warfighter Says:

    What a waste of oxygen. Something tells me that the Jack Shack is the only place that guy gets any action.

  392. 392
    Hondo Says:

    RW: nah. Where Jack Shack is at right now (Riyadh) there’s always manlove Thursday.

    Only question I have is whether he plays pitcher or catcher. Or both.

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    Ex-PH2 Says:

    European cities? Obviously, Jack with his ‘worldview’ has forgotten the commuter train bombing in Madrid in March 2004, with 181 dead and 1800+ injured. And I should include the London underground suicide bombings, plus one doubledecker bus, on july 7 2005.

    Okay, sport, you hate this country so much, fine. You are free to leave, go live with your unwashed friends in one of those exotic places where dysentery and cholera abound behind the typical tourist zones. Oh, and by the way, typhoid is on the rise over there, not to mention measles, which, in an adult, are fatal, diphtheria, and polio, also known as infantile paralysis back in the 1930s and 1940s. My sister had that but recovered from it. Thank God for Dr. Jonas Salk’s polio vaccines. Encephalitis, malaria, meningitis, hepatitis — all fun to get, but the worst of them is a rare, but always very bad, disease called viral meningeal encephalitis, transmitted by mosquitoes, and widely known to destroy brain tissues and reduce the victim to the mental capacity of a 3-year-old.

    Enjoy your trip. No one will stand in your way when you leave. Be a stranger. Bye.

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    Ex-PH2 Says:

    Oh, he’s gone? Already?

    Oh, that’s why the air suddenly became breathable again. Thank you, Jonn and Hondo.

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    Lucky Says:

    Thanks guys, I about lost it with that fucker. I will endeavor to persevere in not feeding the trolls, but I kinda want to jack that fucker up right now

  396. 396
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    And I so very much wanted to ask Jackwad if his father still calls his bastard.

  397. 397
    Ex-PH2 Says:

    No proofreading. Grrr.

    That should be “if his father still calls him his bastard.”

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    Hondo Says:

    Lucky: just consider him the “effluent” left behind by Devil Dog in today’s “The Damn Few” episode. Seems about right to me. (smile)

  399. 399
    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    Lucky … have not seen a good scull fuck since the PI in 86. Long story …

    About the troll … he is probably an ex-pat living in Riyahd working as a contractor in critical infrastructure, government, management services, or spouse of the same. Riyahd is like any large western city therefore many of these US hating POS live there because they don’t have a country or an idiology that would fit a civilized society. The good news is, if he is a USPERS, he certainly has the attention of the CIA now. JACK ASS!

  400. 400
    Lucky Says:

    I still can’t believe that mother f_cker got that personal.

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    Redacted1775 Says:

    So in other words, you know shit about absolutely nothing. No surprise there. Turd.

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    A_Proud_Infidel Says:

    Jack-boy, when your time comes, they just need to throw what’s left of you into a septic tank, because that’s where shit belongs! Have fun next man-love Thursday, the best part of you ran down your momma’s leg, you should have been a blow job !

    The freedom for you to post your blithering idiocy was paid for with the blood, sweat, tears, and lives of us Vets, scumbag, emigrate to North Korea!

  403. 403
    Redacted1775 Says:

    “People of your profession need to pump themselves up with so much macho jock bullshit”– Never really found this to be the case. I think dumbasses like you who get in over their heads need to say this as a way of justifying your resentment (resentment based on years upon years of bullshit getting crammed into your head, by the way) of “our profession”. If anything it’s very telling of your needless inferiority complex. Your verbal diarrhea continues to prove how little you actually know. And I suppose Hitler and Stalin just stopped on their own accord, got bored with the whole world conquest thing right? Moron.

  404. 404
    2/17 Air Cav Says:

    Okay Jack Shack. I’ve read your comments. What’s your point? Is it that people die in war? Is it that those who make war don’t do the fighting? Is it that individual soldiers are to decide what wars are just and, consequently, when they will fight and when they will not? What is your point exactly? Do you know?

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    Twist Says:

    “such as using napalm” No napalm was used in Iraq.

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    Ex-PH2 Says:

    ” any look into the culture of those respective miliaries shows that the US military encourages hooliganism to a greater extent than those other Western countries.”

    Should I bring up the ‘hooliganism’ (polite word for it) engaged in by Saddam Hussein’s army during the invasion of Kuwait, and the dynamiting of Kuwaiti oilfields on their retreat? Or the raping of Afghan women by the Taliban when the Taliban was originally being pushed out of Afghanistan by the US at the request of the Afghan government?

    You do say ‘their culture is barfight violence’, so how does that make the Canucks and the Brits less hooligan than we are?

    And, for the record, I did not grow up around guns, nor do I know anyone who ‘grew up’ around guns, so making a blanket statement like ‘we have grown up around guns’ is incorrect.

  407. 407
    Old Tanker Says:

    I’ve always tried to get soldiers to correct any misconceptions I have

    You obviously didn’t bother to listen….just by the assertions you make. Seriously, hundred’s of thousands died from disease? Wrong…Napalm? Killed EVERY male from 16-45?

    You won’t believe the guys who were actually there but you will believe the IVAW, the vast majority of whom were never in Iraq?

    And you actually wonder why nobody will answer you seriously? Sheesh….

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    Hondo Says:

    All: Mr. Shack is a bit “indisposed” at the moment. He’ll remain so until Jonn decides what to do with him.

  409. 409
    Old Tanker Says:

    I see we said goodbye to the Troll….amazing what happens when you’re gone for a few days….Wow!

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    RealDealHolyfield Says:

    I feel bad for Chris Kyle and his family. You can’t kill that many people without punishment. He faces eternal damnation in hell just for our protection. I hope the devil is merciful.

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    NHSparky Says:

    (sigh)…another day playing Whack-A-Troll.

    Real–go suck start a Howitzer.

  412. 412
    marinewm86 Says:

    Sparky OMG!!! Whack a troll!! I laughed out loud on that. All these people are the bitter fools that when they found out you served always start a sentence with I was gonna be a Marine but my hemaroids kept me from enlisting…

  413. 413
    PintoNag Says:

    @410 Who died and made you god, asshole?

  414. 414
    Twist Says:

    Someone forgot the phrase “judge not lest ye be judged”.

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    MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:

    @ 410 … You have it all wrong. He is standing watch at the gates of heaven. Perhaps perched up high … looking outward for evil as it is ever present. And now base on your comments, you should be worried that he will put a bead on you, should you be selected to walk towards those gates. If SOC Kyle does not stop you … Saint Peter certainly will.

    GO TO HELL YOU POS!

    It will save vauable ammunition!

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    NHSparky Says:

    Hey, Jackoff,

    GDIAF. Go ahead and look it up. We’ll be here when you get back.

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    PintoNag Says:

    Sparky, Jacky-baby is being moderated. His comments won’t be left up long enough to comment on them.

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    NHSparky Says:

    Thanks, PN. TPTB are watching. Waiting. Ever vigilant.

    Just like Chris was. RIP again, Chief.

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