Christopher Jordan Dorner; Lunatic on the loose in CA

| February 7, 2013 | 143 Comments

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Christopher Jordan Dorner, a former LA policeman and Navy Reservist who murdered two people so far is running loose in the LA area. He’s issued a lunatic manifesto “To America” that rants and raves trying to scare people with his military experience. From the manifesto;

I will conduct DA operations to destroy, exploit and seize designated targets. If unsuccessful or unable to meet objectives in these initial small scale offensive actions, I will reassess my BDA and re-attack until objectives are met. I have nothing to lose. My personal casualty means nothing. Just alike AAF’s, ACM’s, and AIF’s, you can not prevail against an enemy combatant who has no fear of death. An enemy who embraces death is a lose, lose situation for their enemy combatants.
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Hopefully you analyst have done your homework. You are aware that I have always been the top shot, highest score, an expert in rifle qualifications in every unit I’ve been in. I will utilize every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordnance, and survival training I’ve been given.

Yeah, I’m sure the Navy Reserve beat the shit out of him with all of that training. No one is mentioning any deployments, so I’m sure he’s absorbed all of these skills through osmosis by living in California and wearing a uniform near Coronado. He was fired from the LAPD three years ago, according to Fox News;

According to documents from a court of appeals hearing in October 2011, Dorner was fired from the LAPD after he made a complaint against his field training officer, Sgt. Teresa Evans, saying in the course of arrest she kicked suspect Christopher Gettler, a schizophrenic with severe dementia. Following an investigation, Dorner was fired for making false statements.

The woman he killed was the daughter of the police chief he blames for his firing – and he killed her fiance. So there’s a loot of crazy in that huge head, and little of it has much to do with his military service, apparently. Just enough for the media to call him a crazy vet.

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  1. MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) says:

    Chris … you were left coast … Sh!t we had a 3 hour jump on your sorry ass’s every friggin’n day … and it showed! HA!

    Are you still in? And if not why?

  2. Twist says:

    On the bright side he has “only” killed 3 people so he isn’t a mass shooter yet.

  3. MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) says:

    @ 100 … huffing Canadian paint thinner is dangerous … you should really stop it right now and call the Mounties to help you with your deep seeded unresolved some one touched me where they should not have childhood issues.

  4. Chris H. says:

    MCPO,

    Yup, us left coasters: office hours daily from 0900 – 0905!

    Retired in ’09 when the detailer said no more sea duty for me and I had some rather unkind things to say about her. Still keep my finger in the Navy world as a contractor now, supporting the same groups of bubbas. Suppose that’s why I get so pedantic when talking about NSW or NECC.

  5. USMCE8Ret says:

    T’wasn’t me, MCPO. He’s gone again.

  6. Erick Brockway says:

    Dude was discharged Friday from the Reserves after being passed over twice for promotion from LT: http://blog.pe.com/crime-blotter/2013/02/07/dorner-manhunt-naval-record-includes-training-decorations/

    KFI report says he hadn’t been drilling for the last two years (IRR?).

  7. Old Tanker says:

    Hondo,

    I just read the comments you trashed….yikes!!

    and yes MCPO, he’s fwench canadian!!

    http://whois.net/ip-address-lookup/142.4.212.193

  8. MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) says:

    @ 106 … so I will net this one out for everyone to understand in Navy terms.

    He was a horrible Naval Officer.
    Clearly not supported by enlisted or officer ranks.
    He was never promoted.
    ENS to LTjg to LT is automatic as long as long as you can pull up your zipper and eat with a spoon.
    He was a horrible reservist.
    He was a horroble LEO.
    He is a horrible person and will burn in HELL!

    In short, a dirt sucking scum bucket who in my opinion will be dead by the end of the day!

  9. 68W58 says:

    Per the link in comment 106, Dorner had an Iraq Campaign Medal which along with previously listed unit assignments implies he did some riverine patrols in country.

    Also, what were the LAPD officers thinking shooting up the truck with two newspaper delivery women?

  10. Hondo says:

    Old Tanker: I just decided to put them in “pending” until Jonn had a chance to look at them and decide, amigo.

    Jonn’s house, Jonn’s call. I just try to help him with some of the obvious stuff when I can.

  11. Erick Brockway says:

    Newspaper ladies were driving up the wrong side of the road? Real slow? Near the house they were guarding?

  12. Derpy says:

    This Army guy thanks all you Navy folks for sorting me out. That all makes much more sense than what the Google told me.

    Bottom line – this dude’s a nutcase, regardless of any military service.

  13. Hondo says:

    Possibly, 68W58. Alternatively, he might have been assigned duties at at Um Qasr. Seems to me that we were trying to get that port back in operation about the time he was mobilized (2006-2007).

    No mention of a CAR, so he apparently didn’t get shot at much if any while in Iraq.

  14. Old Tanker says:

    Hondo,

    Yup, no brainer there!

  15. 68W58 says:

    Erick Brockway-that’s not exactly unusual behavior for people delivering the paper, I did it for a while and you drive slowly on the opposite side of the road when you are putting the paper in a box from the driver’s side. What happened to the idea of positive ID before opening fire?

    Hondo-just drawing what seemed to me the most logical conclusion. There are plenty of other possibilities, don’t know how much combat the riverine patrols saw in Iraq.

  16. Chris H. says:

    Hondo/68W58,

    The ICM was authorized not just for the ground of iraq, but also for anyone serving in direct support of OIF within the air or water-space out to 12 NM beyond the surf line. Cruising the al-Faw or the GOPLATs when based out of KNB would qualify.

    Related: it may differ from unit to unit or from timeframe to timeframe, but indirect fire and IED strikes didn’t rate a CAR for most Navy units on the ground.

  17. 68W58 says:

    Chris H.-you’d still have to meet the 30 consecutive or 60 nonconsecutive day threshold though, cruising the rivers or being posted to a base within Iraq seems more likely.

  18. Hondo says:

    Chris H.: no argument, amigo. He could indeed have served in al Faw or off-coast and qualified for the ICM. Was just pointing out that he might have been on-shore too – we had a number of Navy personnel on our base when I was in Iraq in 2007-2008. The Um Qasr port simply seemed to be a good potential (if speculative) fit.

    Interesting point about the CAR. I would have thought that those would meet the criteria (for IDF, only if reasonably close of course). Learn something new daily.

  19. Chris H. says:

    Hondo,

    Too, he could’ve been with RIVRON proper (before the merge) who did river and road security out of Haditha. I think that mission started in 2006-ish.

    Could be wrong about the IED strikes, as very few of our BN got hit (at least en route). We did however get lots and lots of IDF, some of which was close: BN CO vehicle destroyed, tentage and wire frag, etc.

  20. Erick Brockway says:

    @113 As far as the CAR goes, we rolled forward with the Marines, had a SCUD launch less than 1/4 mile from us and go up into the smoke over our heads. Big firefight as the tanks peeled off the MSR and blew the snot out of it.

    Patriots launched from Kuwait, snuffed the SCUD, and it’s remains fell in the shit pond at Ali al Sallem. The people huddled in their bunker at Saleem got CARs, the people who went forward and stayed got squat. I don’t put much stock in Navy issued CARs. Or NAMs, for that matter. Now a Navy Commendation Medal I think remains hard to get.

    SEABEEs Marines

  21. SD says:

    @43 MCPON stay in your office!

  22. Ex-PH2 says:

    @MCPO, you left cop killer off your list @108.

  23. he's claims NFA weapons says:

    in his manifesto, he claims to have an AR-15 SBR (short-barreled rifle) and at least one silencer that he CLAIMS he paid the $200 tax for the stamp and into the registry via the National Firearms Act.

    He claims he got them through the “trust” or “inc” clause of the NFA, meaning he bypassed the fingerprints and chief LEO sign-off. Looks he’s trying to add the NFA’s strict registration laws as being “unreasonable.”

    I figured a few that visit here might own some legal, machine guns, silences and other NFA goodies.

  24. he's claiming NFA weapons says:

    sorry for the typo, meant he’s claiming NFA weapons

  25. MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) says:

    Pile on SD. He thinks I am the MCPON.

    Hondo whois SD and where is he blathering from?

  26. D says:

    Hes not SWCC obviously.

  27. Al T. says:

    On another board, it was confirmed that he has at least two suppressors.

  28. SD says:

    I think that or your think that?

  29. Hondo says:

    SD’s last comment appears to be from an .edu domain in Houston, TX. Earlier today he apparently was posting from a legal firm’s IP address in Houston, TX. From his comments, I’m guessing he’s not one of the partners at the firm. Maybe he works in the copy room.

    Have no idea who he is, and frankly don’t give a damn. He’s of little consequence or import, and his opinion is IMO worth the same.

  30. Hondo says:

    For what it’s worth: Fox is reporting that Dorner “served in Iraq, providing security on an oil platform”.

    Latest info is that his truck was found, burning, near Big Bear ski area about 80 mi E of LA.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/07/suspect-identified-in-deaths-cal-state-coach-fiance/

  31. Trust in Almighty ATF says:

    If it is true, that he owns or is using several SBRs and suppressors (all NFA restricted items) that he claimed to legally buy via ATF Stamp 4s while not even living in the state he bought them as in according to his “mafinesto,” then the ATF is a joke and the NFA registry even worse.

    Read federal law, machine guns, silencers, and a boatload of other weapons are perfectly legal. As they should be.

  32. Al T. says:

    “the ATF is a joke and the NFA registry even worse.”

    Uh, yes. Lots and lots info out there. Including video of the ATF supervisor briefing his folks to lie about the registry.

  33. NFA law says:

    @ 132
    How dare you Sir! The ATF would NEVER falsify the registry or sell semi-auto AKs to the very people they vowed to arrest!

  34. NFA law says:

    Obviously that video of the head of the ATF instructing his agents to lie and commit perjury is obviously a photoshop, just like the 1986 Hughes Amendment should be THE standard for how laws are passed in our “democracy” (not to be confused with a Republic).

  35. YatYas says:

    If he is still in Big Bear, they may find him frozen. They are supposed to get snow with temps down to 15 degrees.

  36. Wow, what a healthy list of awards. Missed “Expert Rifle” but who needs to be an expert to shoot cops when they ain’t looking?

    Name: Christopher Jordan Dorner
    Age: 33
    Home of Record: La Palma, CA
    Date Commissioned: 3 July 2002
    Loss Date: 1 Feb 2013
    Rank/Date of Rank: Lieutenant / 1 August 2006
    Service Dates/Assignments:
    Various Reserve Units
    Navy Reserve NAS Fallon, NV
    Navy Mobilization Processing Site (NMPS) San Diego, CA
    Coastal Riverine Group Two Det Bahrain
    Coastal Riverine Group One, San Diego, CA
    NMPS San Diego, CA
    Mobile Inshore Undersea Warfare Unit
    Navy Personnel Command
    Various Aviation Training Units
    Awards and Decorations
    National Defense Service Medal
    Iraq Campaign Medal
    Global War on Terrorism Service Medal
    Sea Service Deployment Medal
    Navy Marine Corps Overseas Service Ribbon
    Armed Forces Reserve Medal w/ M Device
    Rifle Marksman Ribbon
    Pistol Expert Medal –courtesy U.S. Navy

  37. C2/2000AF says:

    #35-38 sounds like a Cop hater. Which there are Corrupted cops, but come on. The dude is killing innocent people for retribution. So you are saying its okay to go after Cops families to equal the score.

  38. MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) says:

    WOW … 11 years and NO personal awards.

    As I said >>> a horrble officer and now a cop killer.

  39. C2/2000AF says:

    Which probably mean he was just coasting along in the Navy. Also might explain his overuse of acronyms. Still out there at large, as someone else I think Hondo said…he must be trying to make way to Mexico after he kills some or attempts to kill a few more cops.

    Damn didnt get to see the canadian guys post. I wonder what he said.

  40. Hondo says:

    C2/2000AF: you didn’t miss much from the troll Quebecois. His comments were just some blatant anti-establishment/anti-American trolling and comparisons of this guy to Rambo. Seemed to be a pretty obvious attempt to piss people off vice contribute to the discussion.

  41. Ex-PH2 says:

    Per news this morning, Dorner is still on the run.

  42. budsadog says:

    I served with him. Kuwait was it.

  43. NHSparky says:

    C2–even “just coasting along” can get you a NAM if you’re an officer or CPO as an EOT/deployment award. No, you have to be a REAL shitbag to not even get a handshake out the door.

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