IL has a concealed weapon law; Governor threatens to cut off pay for legislators

| July 11, 2013 | 12 Comments

Tuesday, the Illinois Legislature finally passed a concealed carry permit law by over-riding the Governor’s veto.

House members approved the override without any debate on the floor. The vote in the House was 77-31 in favor of an override, with 10 representatives not voting.

The Senate vote was 41-17, after some mild debate. A three-fifths majority vote was needed in each chamber to override the veto.

State lawmakers this spring, working under a federal court deadline, spent months negotiating on a bill that would allow Illinoisans to carry guns in public. Last week, however, Quinn issued an amendatory veto that rewrote multiple parts of the bill, making it more restrictive.

The sticking point was that the governor wanted to forbid carrying a weapon in any business that serves alcohol, and that businesses that allowed the carrying of guns on the premises needed to hang a sign out stating that. The legislature passed a version that forbade carrying a weapon in an establishment that derived more than half of it’s business from alcohol, and businesses which DIDN’T want guns on their property had to hang a sign.

So, the governor threatened to cut off legislators’ says a WGN link to us by Ex-PH2;

A day after Governor Quinn’s limits on concealed carry were shot down, he’s firing back at lawmakers, docking their pay until they pass pension reform.

Using his line-item veto power, Gov Quinn announced Wednesday that he is suspending pay for himself and for state lawmakers until the state’s crippling pension crisis is resolved.

State Comptroller Judy Baar Topinka says her office is checking if this is legal, but Quinn says the Illinois Constitution is “crystal clear.”

So are the governor’s motivations since he has an election coming up next year.

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  1. Ex-PH2 says:

    Some time ago, Gov. Quinn started something called the Citizens Utility Board, a watchdog group that monitors increases in electric, phone and natural gas prices charged to consumers. It did, and continues to do, a lot of good.

    He’s a decent guy, and he means well, but he’s sometimes SO inept when he does things. He truly bulldozed the CCW law into effect, over the objections of the senator from Harrisburg, among others, and now there’s this ‘no more pay’ thing.

    I can see his point, but it would be far more effective to get Dan Madigan to lose control of the legislature and spending our tax money on his pet projects and personal bodyguards. The infrastructure all over the state, including bridges and roads, is in desperate need of serious repairs, which is where money should be going but isn’t. One of these days, a Metra commuter rail bridge is going to collapse under a loaded train’s weight and a lot of people are going to suffer for it, because those bridges are over 100 years old and crumbling, never mind the sinkholes that appear in city streets because of ancient, crumbling water lines. And I don’t mean just in Chicago, I mean all over the state of Illinois.

  2. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    You know, when it comes to a state, I say let the citizens of that state fight it out. It’s no business of ANY freakin’ president, Congress (EVEN those from IL), the mayor of New York, or me. That is not to say I can’t take a sympathetic side but, really, whatever folks from IL (what are they called anyway?) want, so be it.

  3. OWB says:

    Agree with you AC in principle. IL has a problem (not necessarily unique to that state) in that pretty much everything is Cook Co vs the rest of the state. It’s never pretty.

  4. PintoNag says:

    @2 Agreed. Nothing makes us madder than to have out-of-staters get underfoot in our politics. If it concerns others or other states, fine; we all get involved. If it’s a local or state issue, let the folks from there deal with it.

  5. Marine6 says:

    Pinto, I can’t tell you how much I wish you had kept your politics within the boarders of Illinois, and your politicians too! I think we would all be better off if that were the case.

  6. Stacy0311 says:

    so when will he be joining the other former Illinois governors in prison?

  7. Hondo says:

    Marine6: I don’t believe PintoNag is from IL, my friend.

    2/17 Air Cav, OWB: can’t agree. The US Constitution guarantees certain individual rights; the majority of these US Constitutional guarantees regarding individual rights have been held to be binding in all states. I have a problem with any state law or Constitution that infringes on any of those rights held universally guaranteed by the US Constitution.

    In fact, I seem to recall that that is precisely why the state of IL just adopted the law in question somewhat under duress – something about prior IL state law infringing on a right guaranteed by the US Constitution.

  8. UpNorth says:

    @7. Hondo, I do believe you’re right. I think that Illinois’ previous law was tossed on those grounds. From an article in the Examiner, “The Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals had months previously ruled that Illinois’ outright ban of defensive firearm carry violated the Second and Fourteenth Amendments, and was thus not legitimate law”.

  9. PintoNag says:

    @5. Oops. I forget that not everybody knows where I live. I live in Montana, not Illinois. Sorry!

  10. Hondo says:

    UpNorth: indeed. That’s been the case since 2010, when the SCOTUS in McDonald v. Chicago explicitly ruled that the 2nd Amendment’s guarantees applied to state and local governments as well as local Federal enclaves outside of state jurisdiction. The 7th Circut’s decision merely reiterated that fact for the benefit of the recalcitrant knuckleheads dragging their feet in IL, and forced them to clean up their act.

    I have no problem with states having whatever laws they like in other areas. But when it comes to individual rights that have been explicitly guaranteed by the US Constitution and ruled to be binding on the states by the SCOTUS, I have a problem with any level of government passing a law infringing on same.

  11. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    @7. I wasn’t referring to any Federal question at issue. To the extent that citizens of a state are denied a right theirs as citizens of the United States, I have no issue with everyone (except French Canadians) chiming in. What I was referring to in suggesting that it is strictly state business is the battle between the Illinois gov and legislature and the games the former is now employing.

  12. David says:

    Is it any wonder that the last two governors of Illinois, prior to Pat Quinn, are now convicted felons? Both Ryan and Blagojevich are behind bars. Will Quinn make it 3 in a row?

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