Voting “present” on the red line

| September 4, 2013 | 40 Comments

The President just voted “present” on the “red line” that he drew in regards to Syria’s use of chemical weapons. From The Weekly Standard;

“First of all, I didn’t set a red line,” said Obama. “The world set a red line. The world set a red line when governments representing 98 percent of the world’s population said the use of chemical weapons are [inaudble] and passed a treaty forbidding their use, even when countries are engaged in war. Congress set a red line when it ratified that treaty. Congress set a red line when it indicated that in a piece of legislation entitled the Syria Accountability Act that some of the horrendous things happening on the ground there need to be answered for. So, when I said in a press conference that my calculus about what’s happening in Syria would be altered by the use of chemical weapons, which the overwhelming consensus of humanity says is wrong, that wasn’t something I just kind of made up. I didn’t pluck it out of thin air. There’s a reason for it.”

So, it’s Congress’ fault that we have to attack Syria because they ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention in 1975. As near as I can tell, the CWC only forbids it’s signatories from acquiring and stockpiling or contributing to the spread of chemical weapons, there’s no requirement to attack anyone who is using the weapons (by the way, Syria signed the CWC without ratifying it).

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  1. Twist says:

    He is already setting it up that if (when) things go to crap if we attack Syria he can blame those pesky Republicans in Congress.

  2. OWB says:

    Heard him say that and nearly had a stroke! What a heaping pile of pond scum he is. Just wish he did not feel compelled to prove it again every day.

  3. Ex-PH2 says:

    What a fucking liar!!!!

    Oh, I can’t stand this any more. He talks out of both sides of his face, just like a damned con artist. He said ‘red line’ in one of his many babbling runon sales pitch speeches and now he’s denying he ever said it.

    This is bullshit and no one is calling that SOB on it yet, except us.

  4. Hondo says:

    OWB, Ex-PH2: are you surprised?

  5. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    “First of all, I didn’t set a red line,” said Obama. “The world set a red line.” B. Hussein Obama

    Liar, liar, pants on fire. Obamaman said NOTHING about the international community when he established HIS red line in 2012. This is what he said (the caps in the prouns I added, for emphasis):

    “We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for US is WE start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. That would change MY calculus. That would change MY equation.” (20 August 2012)

  6. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    prouns? pronouns!

  7. ComancheDoc says:

    I heard you like red lines..

  8. rb325th says:

    What a fucking lying piece of shit! Someone cue up that tape… I doubt that asswipe even had a vague knowledge of the CWC. More double talk, more backpeddling, more lies…

    this is what makes me afraid of getting involved in Syria, not that we would not be correct in eliminating Assads WMD, but that we have “Amateurs R US” running the show down in DC right now.

  9. Ex-PH2 says:

    Here is a quote from the NYT article in August 2012:

    “We cannot have a situation in which chemical or biological weapons are falling into the hands of the wrong people,” Mr. Obama said in response to questions at an impromptu news conference at the White House. “We have been very clear to the Assad regime but also to other players on the ground that a red line for us is, we start seeing a whole bunch of weapons moving around or being utilized.”

    Here is a link to the NYT article: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/21/world/middleeast/obama-threatens-force-against-syria.html

    He is nothing but a damned liar.

  10. Combat Historian says:

    It’s all about ME ME ME…except when I’m in deep shit, then it’s everybody else’s fault…

  11. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    “Look. I went out on a limb in drawing that Red Line. I screwed up. I should not have supplanted the United Nations in drawing such a line. But, you know, I give a shit about the UN charter nearly as much as I give a shit about the US Constitution. They’re both just words on paper and can do nothing in themselves. I, on the other hand, am the most powerful man on earth. The so-called elected opposition is putty in my hands and I can bend them and twist them any way I like. And the Supreme Court? Hell, I put a couple of solid followers on there and that idiot–what’s his name–Roberts–he wants to please me too. So, screw this. I’m going golfing.” Barack

  12. Ex-PH2 says:

    You can tell I’m annoyed when I put something in caps.

    BARACK H. OBAMA, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A GODDAMN, FUCKING, WORTHLESS LIAR.

  13. USMCE8Ret says:

    The amateur hour continues.

  14. cato says:

    I need some clarification………..on the red line

    If the United States were attacked by hostile facist/muslim/marxist forces, where our populace, military and way of life was being snuffed out through conventional weapons, you wouldn’t use “every” tool in the box to save this constitutional republic?

    Just askin’.

  15. OWB says:

    They certainly are making this into one very complicated situation where there was no need for complication. (No surprise there either, Hondo.) Kinda makes one wonder why.

    The WMD that was in Iraq went to Syria. That alone would allow action on the part of the US in tracking/securing that WMD from the original authorization in 2001.

    Guess it’s easier to create all this theater than just accept reality. (Can’t you just see the future headlines: Nobel Peace Prize winner starts WW III.)

  16. valerie says:

    I think it is outstandingly rich that Obama is pretending that he has UN support for this adventure, because of that treaty. He could just as well say that Congress approved his current plan of action against Syria when it adopted our Constitution.

  17. Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

    Well when everyone around you constantly explains to you that you are in fact the golden boy dropped from the heavens to lead us all into the promised land it’s difficult to accept your own shortcomings with respect to the veracity of all of the words that flow so effortlessly while you address those who live to serve you.

    It becomes unimaginable that those beneath you would dare question your words, consequently a barrage of half-truths, untruths, and outright bullsh1t become the standard method of transmitting information. Only that information that the lesser beings are worthy of hearing, nothing of substance, nothing of value.

    Once again the expertise gained from less than a full term senator with zero executive branch experience at any level raises its’ ugly head and reveals the truth of the situation. The president has no direction on this issue, and doesn’t know how to react to the criticism with anything other than lies, damned lies, and statistics.

  18. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    Welcome to the club Ex-PH2. We’ve been waiting for you…

  19. NHSparky says:

    “First of all, I didn’t set a red line,” said Obama. “The world set a red line.”

    So I guess we’re all having auditory hallucinations now?

  20. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    What is positively laughable is how his minions and bidders are tripping all over themselves right now. The flaws, contradictions, and sheer irrationality that comprise and characterize THE ONE’S present stance are irreconcilable and incomprehensible through a policy lens. They are absolutely understandable, however, if one views this as a matter of personal import to obamaman. He has succeeded at riling the ME countries in ways unimagined for a US president. He has prompted even GB to recoil and has made Putin look comparatively good. This is insanity.

  21. A Proud Infidel says:

    Now I wonder how soon B. Hussein 0bama will change his mind and deny that he ever asked to do anything, and with the liberal mess media covering for him and kissing his ass?!

  22. PintoNag says:

    Obama wanted to sit in that seat (White House.) He shouldn’t start squirming when it starts getting hot.

  23. Heidi says:

    What I think is funny, he had to go to Sweden to say this shit, instead of talking directly to folks in the US. And we still have him for 3 years, painful.

  24. melle1228 says:

    He also said it wasn’t his credibility. It was the world’s, America’s and Congress. Anybody is to blame and responsible but Douchebag Obama. We are screwed with his leadership. He wants to play cowboy and then hide behind his big brother..

  25. HMCS(FMF) ret says:

    Why is it that everytime I hear Reefer Barry talk about using his “calculus”, I hear this:

    Ahh, but the strawberries that’s… that’s where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with… geometric logic… that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist, and I’d have produced that key if they hadn’t of pulled the Caine out of action. I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow officers…

    Idiot probably doesn’t even know how to balance his own checkbook…

  26. A Proud Infidel says:

    B. Hussein 0bama, the ultimate narcissist, never has and never will accept responsibility!!

  27. Roger in Republic says:

    I am utterly, totally, and completely amazed that this mans pants have not burst into flames. Only a sociopath could lie to our faces and expect us to believe him. But what’ new. This mans whole life has been a lie. He has proved time and again that he lives in a fantasy world of his own invention. The man is mentally ill, no question about it.

  28. OWB says:

    Well, Roger, cannot disagree with what you said at all. But the problem is not so much that this one individual is operating with something short of a full load. The ill effects of a single lunatic can be successfully neutralized. The problem is that those who support him operate with a similar lack of mental stability. The insane may now outnumber the sane. That is the problem.

  29. Isnala says:

    Can’t remember who said it a few days ago, but as more time passes every time the administration speaks about Syria, their lips are moving but all I hear is the pharse “Operation Rolling Thunder”.

    -Ish

  30. Ex-PH2 says:

    None of you should be at all surprised to know that the White House staff is scrambling to dispute the New York Times article (see link above http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=37415&cpage=1#comment-924481) from August 2012.

    Also, now that some of you have said things that made me laugh, I will still refer to that Dumbfuck in DC as bodaprez, but I’ll come up with other nominatives as well.

    Lickspittle comes to mind. Neville Chamberlain signed that agreement with Hitler and his signing hand withered away over the next 18 months.

  31. ANCCPT says:

    Dodge! Duck! Dip! Dive! Dodge!

    If you can dodge Bengazi, you can dodge a ball!

    This message has been brought to you by the Obama Administration and the American Dodgeball Association of America.

    F.M.L.

  32. Perry Gaskill says:

    Those of us on the short bus are dazed and confused by all this, and gotten out our crayons to write a new chapter in Politics for Dummies:

    Barry is mad at Vlad because Vlad didn’t hand over Eddie. The Saudi arab guys are really really mad at Barry for letting Eddie steal stuff from the NSA. To make the Saudi guys happy, Barry wants to attack Syria because the Saudis are one kind of Mooslim guy and Syria is a different kind of Mooslim guy. This will also make Vlad mad because Vlad and the Syrian Mooslim guys are pals.

    Barry thinks the best way to attack the Syrian Mooslim guys is to shoot missiles because missiles are way cool.

    Is it nap time yet, Mimi?

  33. OldSargeUSAR says:

    @14 – You have been watching “Red Dawn” one too many times. Your little scenario ain’t never gonna happen.

    Bullshit

  34. Ex-PH2 says:

    2/17 AirCav, I’ve done my best to be polite about some things and some people.

    I just can’t do it any more.

    If that moronic wanker ever shows up on my doorstep, I will slam the door in his face and tell the SecretServies to take him away before I smear his fine shirt with bacon grease.

  35. Ex-PH2 says:

    OK. OK. Bear with me on this. I have just now watched, on WGN Politics Tonight, the rerun of the part of the video from August 2012 in which Bodapres said ‘red line’, in this sentence: “We have been very clear to the Assad regime but also to other players on the ground that a red line for us is, we start seeing a whole bunch of weapons moving around or being utilized.” (from the NYT article linked above)

    That is exactly what that M!#$%$^Q@##! said.

    From his mouth to God’s ear.

    And now he is denying that he ever said it. And that butt-kissing asshole sleazoid kerry is backing up his denial.

    I hope they enjoy their time roasting together.

  36. A Proud Infidel says:

    I truly wonder just how soon B. Hussein 0bama & Co. will change their minds and either act like nothing happened, or blame Bush with their sniveling sycophants in the mess media covering for them?

  37. Preppergirl says:

    http://www.infowars.com/sen-graham-warns-of-nuke-strike-after-missing-nuke-report/

    Sen Graham Warns of Nuke Strike After Missing Warheads Report

    Lindsey Graham, McCain, Obama are ALL in this together!

  38. Preppergirl says:

    Senator Lindsay Graham has warned South Carolinians about the threat of a ‘terrorist nuclear attack’ on the same day our exclusive high level military intel revealed to us that nuclear warheads were being shipped to South Carolina from a major Texas airforce base under an ‘off the record’ black ops transfer.

    http://www.infowars.com/sen-graham-warns-of-nuke-strike-after-missing-nuke-report/

  39. Just an Old Dog says:

    “No one knew where they were going really, but the truck driver said to take them to South Carolina and another pick up will take them from there.”

    Yeah that’s just the way nukes are handled. Ol’ Bubba in an 18 Wheeler.

    (eye roll)_

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