Maddow on Fort Hood shooting

| April 7, 2014


Are you sitting down? You may need to before you read this article sent to us by Greg. MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow criticized the media for being lazy after the Fort Hood shooting for concluding that Ivan Lopez’ tour of Iraq was the reason that he killed three others before turning the gun on himself;

“If we think of every other mass shooting in America as somehow particular to the circumstances of that shooting but this one as explained away as ‘Oh he was an Iraq vet’… not only does that not help us understand what happened here, it is an offense against every other veteran who right now is getting that stigma shoveled onto them by a lazy civilian world and a lazy civilian media who find this dangerous veteran stereotype to be an easier thing to point to than America has a bad mass shooting problem.”

I’m no fan of this Maddow fella, but at least he got this one right, although, I’m thinking that he is gong to turn it around on us and blame the lack of new gun laws. You can watch the video at the link to Huffington Post above.

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  1. Combat Historian says:

    Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day; and if it’s a military clock, only once a day…

  2. rb325th says:

    I was sitting down, but it did not help much…
    I cannot see this lasting, and agree the talking points will shift to the need for stricter gun laws.

  3. AW1 Tim says:

    You’ll forgive me if I believe she/he is just running this out as cover for another draconian gun law set.

    It’s gonna take a whole lot more of THAT type of reporting before I start to tune into MSNBC.

    • Sparks says:

      AW1 Tim glad you said the he/she thing. I thought I was the only one wondering, is that a dude or a woman?

  4. 1AirCav69 says:

    That was really nice of him. Now, waiting for the other shoe to drop.

  5. LebbenB says:

    I agree, it’s a set up for a call for gun control. The real problem is the mental health care system in the US, both military and civilian.

  6. Madconductor says:

    Don’t be fooled. It’s msnbc. They have an agenda.

    It will be interesting to watch the spin off this, though. If msnbc is pulling for the vet not to be maligned, then somebody – or something – else will take the blame.

    I’m still sitting down. Btw, isn’t he a she? Ugly, but a she nonetheless?

    • LebbenB says:

      Not so much a female, more of a non-male.

      • Sparks says:

        LebbenB…Is “IT” what they call a metrosexual? Never been clear on that whole subject.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      I think the term you all are looking for is ‘androgynous’.

      Looks like either, but is neither.

    • Common Sense says:

      She. Here’s her high school photo, where there is no question:

    • Squid says:

      No doubt, there’s a major problem in this country with community mental health resources. However, in this case, I haven’t seen anything yet to suggest that this shooting was related to mental health issues. The mere fact that he had a diagnosis does nothing to prove anything causal. It is just as likely, if not more so in my mind, that the guy was treated poorly by his command and became depressed by that maltreatment over time. Then it was just one argument too many to set him off and this is the result. The vast majority of mass shooters are not mentally ill and short of psychosis, legitimate mental health rationales for such behavior are damn few and far between.

  7. Hondo says:

    Maddow making sense? What the . . . .

    Perhaps the Millenia truly is at hand!

  8. FrostyCWO says:

    Not saying that the position won’t lead to an argument for more gun control, but it doesn’t make the statement any less true. Politics make for strange bedfellows.

  9. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    “You can watch the video at the link to Huffington Post above.”

    That would require me to look at Maddow. So, I’ll pass. By the way, who is that fella in the still shot at the top of this thread?

    • UpNorth says:

      Who is that fella? Why, it’s Chris Hayes, at least I think it is. Hayes and Madcow have never been seen together, as far as I know.

  10. Ex-PH2 says:

    Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, isn’t s/he?
    Has anyone considered that maybe Madcow is a closetgunowner?

    • NRPax says:

      Actually, I recall that she does own guns and goes shooting. Still waiting for her to start supporting shiny new gun control.

    • Doc Savage says:

      I think Madcow has been out of the closet for for quite some time now.

  11. MCPO NYC USN Ret. says:

    I am not a big fan either … how ever SHE has always been a supporter (like Quinn in NYC) in her own twisted liberal way.

    • 2/17 Air Cav says:

      Supporter? Has Maddow’s view of gun ownership changed since 2009?

      “No, in fact [Maddow] views guns as amusement devices that should be regulated to the point that you’re only allowed to shoot them at shooting ranges, galleries or gun clubs.”

      “I like making liberals shoot guns – I just don’t think we should be allowed to bring them [guns] home,” Maddow said. “It’s like I mean you go to the carnival you know, like the roller coasters – it’s fun. But that doesn’t mean you get one to come home with. Doesn’t mean you get to do your own home roller coaster – just leave it there, it’s a game.” (Newsbusters Sept 1, 2009)

      • MCPO NYC USN Ret. says:

        She and Quinn of NYC … are big supporters of the military, Vets and other related causes.

        Hear me out please … I don’t know what her views are on guns, although I suspect they are not like mine because, I am a Reagan Conservative.

        I can say this … both Quinn and Maddow supported Welcome Home Parades after the pull out of Iraq when Bloomberg and DoD did not!

        This is the limit of my opinion on the subject!

      • Cacti35 says:

        Didn’t Michael Jackson get to have a home amusement park?

  12. Devtun says:

    ….ok now back to regular programming: More Christy bridgegate “coverup” & bashing Koch Bros.

  13. Hondo says:

    Maddow didn’t always look like the photo above. She’s changed a bit since high school.

    • 2/17 Air Cav says:

      I can see the resemblance. Maddow would have looked good with a crew cut back then, maybe carrying a surf board for style points.

    • Devtun says:

      Raymond Maddow starred as lead man in the cult classic “Point Break”.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      I hate to diss someone’s senior HS yearbook headshot, but she looked like a boy in drag, even then.

      Sorry about that -just my OPINION, nothing else.

    • Sparks says:

      You gotta be SHITTIN’ ME!!! THEY are the same person?

      • Hondo says:

        According to the Huffington Post, Sparks – yes, that’s the same Rachel Maddow pictured in Jonn’s article, albeit when much younger.

    • MCPO NYC USN Ret. says:

      I want to know what happened in the locker room!

    • MrBill says:

      She could look like a girl if she cared to. She’s apparently decided that she’d rather be a 41-year-old woman who looks like a teenage boy.

  14. Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

    I’m pretty sure that insightful, honest journalism by Rachel Maddow is the 3rd sign of the apocalypse…

    • The Other Whitey says:

      “And the Earth began to shake,
      And lo, I beheld one of the lesser beasts,
      That which proclaimeth womanhood but appeareth as a man.

      The lesser beast, known unto all the world as a forked-tongued liar in the service of Beelzebub,
      Was unlike the other servants of the enemy,
      For while they appeared fairer and acted foolish,
      The lesser beast wore the visage of a hideous bulldyke and cloaked its evil words in the prose of the educated scribes and scholars.

      “And it began to utter truths and half-truths,
      that the people might be confused.

      And I heard a voice cry out from Heaven,
      ‘Heed not the words of the wicked bulldyke!
      For this lesser beast has been sent among you to corrupt My people,
      That they may be claimed by the enemy on the Day of Judgement!
      Yea, though its methods differ,
      This beast is kin of the foul hypocrite Bloomberg, the gluttonous liar Michael Moore, the foreign sodomite Morgan, and the den of sin and lies named SPLC!
      Be not deceived by its appeals to thy senses!
      For it will offer a tiny piece of truth to better lead you astray!’

      “And while the faithful heeded the word of The Lord,
      The weak of mind and heart were easily deceived by the the bulldyke beast.
      And the Angel warned that on the day of reckoning,
      There would be naught but weeping and gnashing of teeth among those led astray.”

      -The Book of Revelation (in the fine print somewhere)

  15. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    Here’s a nice pic. It’s Maddow, THE MAN, embracing Jane (Spit!) Fonda. Why am I putting this here? I don’t like the softness.

    • Combat Historian says:

      In the linked photo, radical madcow kind of resembles Wesley Crusher from ST:TNG…while Comrade Jane kind of resembles a treasonous traitor…

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      2/17AirCav, please! Not before lunch!

      Mind bleach! Quickly!

      Seriously, they and their ‘friends’ should all have their own planet.

  16. David says:

    I was actually watching this – rolling through channels in my hotel room (believe in Vegas)and was shocked to hear someone on MSNBC actually making sense. For a while…after lambasting the media for lazy “PTSD vet” reporting, it turned into an anti-gun diatribe. The real root cause, of course, was availability and easy access to guns, yadda, yadda, yadda…….

  17. pigmypuncher says:

    I’m no fan of this Maddow fella, but at least he got this one right, –


  18. RM3(SS) says:

    Crock O’ Shit on her part. She is just using the meme of PTSD to further her anti-gun rant. “America has a bad mass shooting problem”. Bullshit.
    As liberal as Time magazine is, even they admit that you can juggle statistics to say anything you want.

    Homicide rates are way down and have been declining for 30 years.
    What we have is instant news now coupled with a 24 hour news cycle that demands fresh meat.
    The liberal anti’s use this to further their agenda.
    Fuck that fugly bitch and her “give peace a chance” mindset.