More phony soldier stuff
This morning, as I began reading the Washington Times, my eyes were assaulted by this image;
This is an Obama supporter going into an Obama rally in Fayetteville, NC over this caption;
PHOTOGRAPHS BY J.M. EDDINS JR./THE WASHINGTON TIMES Charlie W. Williams of Raeford, N.C., a veteran of the Korean and Vietnam wars and supporter of Democratic candidate Sen. Barack Obama, lines up early to get into a rally at the Crown Coliseum in Fayetteville on Oct. 19. “He’s going to get a lot of white votes,” he said of his candidate
I get real suspicious of veterans who wear all of their medals when they’re not in uniform. Although we’re usually proud of what we’ve earned, we don’t usually wear all of our “bling” because it looks too much like bragging. So I started checking the medals and ribbons on Willie’s left breast (Lord knows I don’t want to get started on the right breast full of Unit Citations). So I blew up the picture;
I also looked for images of Army Medals and discovered that I also needed to find some Navy Medals, too.
The highest award is two awards of the Bronze Star, one with a ‘V’ for valor. Since it’s illegal to claim a medal for valor you’re not awarded, I absolutely believe that, without further evidence to the contrary. The rest are (in order viewers’ left to right and descending);
Purple Heart/Army Commendation Medal
Defense Meritorious Service Medal/Army Meritorious Service Medal
Reserve Component Overseas Training/Republic of Korea Service Medal/Army Acheivement/Good Conduct
Army of Occupation/Southwest Asia Service (Desert Storm)/Vietnam Service medal (3 stars)/National Defense
NATO Medal/Korea Service/Armed Forces Service Medal/Army Service Ribbon
Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal/Army Overseas Ribbon /Navy Meritorious Unit/Navy Combat Action
United Nations Service/Republic of Viet Nam Campaign/Multinational Force and Observers Medal/Outstanding Volunteer Medal
Aside from the fact that his ribbons are all out of order (something a career NCO would never do), he has the Southwest Asia medal for Desert Storm, the Armed Forces Service medal (which is for service after 1992). He’s also wearing a Navy Combat Action ribbon, which he only could’ve earned as a member of the Navy or Marines. He also has an Overseas Service Ribbon which can only be awarded to people on active duty after 1981. The Multinational Force and Observers Medal didn’t come into being until Jimmy Carter started sending troops to the Sinai. His National Defense Service Medal has an oak leaf cluster, subsequent awards of the NDSM are denoted by a bronze star device not an oak leaf.
Willie is wearing medals and ribbons that didn’t come into existence until after he left the service since he says he was in Korea and Vietnam. He wears a star on his CIB so that means he had to have been in the Korean War before July 27, 1953. Since his Good Conduct Medal has five knots, he must’ve served between 15-18 years (each knot is three years of service) but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he did twenty, that means he retired before July 1973 and many of the medals he wears didn’t even exist at the time he retired and they’re awarded for service he couldn’t have.
The Outstanding Volunteer Medal didn’t come into existence until 1992 - Willie could have won it but he would had 40 years of service, but even Colin Powell only did 35. Most E-7s get booted if they don’t get promoted to E-8 before they hit 22 years.
He’s also sporting a 555th Parachute Infantry patch - the famous “Colored” Paratroopers. They disbanded in 1950 before the Korean War when the Army desegregated.
A few weeks ago, I busted out a warrant officer on Military.com who listed every conflict since Vietnam as wars he’d participated in during his thirty year career. Questioning him and comparing his profile to his medals, we narrowed his wartime service down to just the Global War on Terror - and surprise - he was an Obama supporter touting the IAVA report card.
Zero Ponsdorf and Wpage sent me this article about phony soldiers from the Chicago Tribune. They seem to be everywhere.
If you’ve been in the military, just be proud of your service for what it was, you don’t need to make stuff up to be accepted. Cheezum crow.
Welcome, Gateway Pundit and Blackfive readers.
UPDATED: It turns out that “Willie” did indeed serve, according to the folks at P.O.W. Network. He served from 1949 until 1974 - he retired the same year I enlisted;
NAME: WILLIAMS CHARLIE W
SERVICE: A
COMP: R
V_RANK: E07
DOB: Edited out by Jonn Lilyea
SEX: M
V_RACE: N
EDLEV: Edited out by Jonn Lilyea
START: 490100
DOR: Edited out by Jonn Lilyea
PEB: 490100
DMOS: 11B4O
PMOS: 11B4P
SMOS: 11C4P
STOP: 740430
TAFMS: 293
YOS_SEP: 26
But I never doubted his service, in fact I was careful to give him the benefit of the doubt on each point and still found him to be a liar. He’s wearing a glider badge and the school ended the year before he joined. He’s wearing medals that weren’t even in existence nearly two decades after he retired. I stand by this post.
October 26th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
This is good stuff Jonn. Hope this post gets some love out there, because this is a good catch.
October 26th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Hate the phony crap and I busted somebody who said they were a Navy SEAL. The last straw was that he told me Marcus Luttrell was “banished” for f-ing up!!! Hence, I contacted someone who squared me away.
Good Job, Jonn.
October 26th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
If I am seeing it correctly, he also appears to have a USMC shooting badge hanging from his pocket. What a scumbag.
I have a feeling that John McCain is going to peak in the next few days and really close what I think is in truth a very small gap. Obama shot his wad months ago and has been declining ever since.
http://www.americanarmed.blogspot.com
October 26th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Is he wearing a Halloween mask?
October 26th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Can you zoom on the hat? Looks like there’s a lot of stuff there too.
Jonn wrote: Naw, the Washington Times cropped his hat, but I did blow up his right breast and found a pair of glider wings (on the far left of the picture). Glider school ended in 1948, two years before the Korean War started;
So taking into account all of his awards, his career would have spanned at least 45 years…and only made E-7.
October 26th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
May I be charitable and say that he probably was in the service and has since collected and/or been given those ribbons and pins and medals (although why, I have NO idea).
Even a non-military person would never believe all of that was his own, let alone that it would be displayed like that. To me, that’s just sad.
October 26th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
If his name is Williams, why would his name tape read WILLIE?
I’m not military in the least, but I would expect that the tape would display the person’s last name and not a nick-name.
Seems he would be more at home at a Bennigan’s.
October 26th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Um, since when are medals worn with their ribbons? (Right breast)
October 26th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Comment Cross-posted at BlackFive
I think this is probably NOT a case of Stolen Valor, but rather just an old man wearing ribbons and medals that he has purchased second hand… or that other people have given him… over the years.
Was he a veteran? Maybe, at some point in his life. Or, maybe he just started wearing all the ribbons and medals to show support and is now just misguided Re; the campaign. Besides, I don’t think any “responsible” minded person would think he earned all of the *bling* he’s wearing.
Plus, he definitely has the look of *KU-RAZEE* about him, so most people probably just discount him.
(Personal note: I don’t agree with anyone wearing a crapload of ribbons and medal, earned or not, all over their civilian clothing. I can understand a miniature Purple Heart -or similar device- worn as a lapel pin, but cringe when I see people with a “fruit salad” on their civvies.)
~Paul
aka V5
October 26th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
This is just despicable. I don’t care what age he is and if any of those items were gifts, they should be displayed properly at home with all the respect they deserve. Nothing is more insulting than a phony soldier.
This desperation display that NObama supporters have “stones” just makes them look like weak idiots.
October 26th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
If you look close you can see that on his hat is at least the word “Veteran” and the hat seems to be a Stetson style favored by airborne troops, I believe it’s specific to Air Cav but not absolutely certain.
I don’t see why the “Joe the Plumber” standard should not apply here, do you? I say out the fart knocker if he’s lying.
http://www.americanarmed.blogspot.com
October 26th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
I love his “Combat” Jump Wings too…
October 26th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Also notice the uniform this phony is wearing is a Summer uniform. Name tags were black and were pinned on and not sewn on. Also there were no patches that said AIRBORNE. The Patches had the branch of the service, like in my husband’s case US ARMY and the last name only was printed on the tags. Name patches and service patches were only sewn on fatigues
October 26th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Cut the guy a break. He probably was in Washington and he found John Kerry’s medals laying in the dirt and decided to wear them.
October 26th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
He said he was a vet. I don’t see anywhere where he claimed to have earned all the medals he’s wearing. Go to any Goodwill or junk store and you can find all the fruit salad you want. You can even pin them on your clothing. I once wore my dad’s Army medals on an army-surplus jacket. BFD.
So, was he once a soldier, or not? Can you prove he’s NOT a VET, instead of just a vet with a penchant for wearing ribbons as decorations (gasp! The idea!).
Morons for McCain, scrabbling desperately at any straw they can find. As if proving that this guy wears medals he didn’t earn PROVES anything. You still haven’t proven that he isn’t a vet–only that he doesn’t wear his medals to your satisfaction.
And as for vets not wearing “bling,” I never knew a con who didn’t plump up and fluff himself for once being a soljer–even if all he did was paint buildings or polish a chair. Wearing the bling would just make their ridiculous macho bluster more ridiculous. And it would mark the parameters of the military service–without the bling, who knows if you weren’t any kind of a hero at all?
I knew a guy who went into the military because he thought it would work out well financially–just sit tight for twenty years and then retire fat. Of course, all he did in his early years in the military was drink, drink, drink–until he drank himself into military disability.
Now he gets a big fat military pension for being a DRUNK.
Morons for McCain.\
October 26th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
If you wore your dad’s Army medals on an army-surplus jacket, you were in violation of the UCMJ and Federal law. I’m an Army brat, when my dad gave me his old OD fatigues after they switched to BDU’s, I was required to remove everything except the namestrip before wearing them in public. Claiming ANY medal for valor that you did not earn (and, yes, wearing them in public while identifying yourself as a vet is “claiming them”) is a violation of Federal law. Have you ever LEGITIMATELY worn the uniform? There are strict regulations on what you can wear on the uniform, and when, even after you retire.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Personally I think the female E-7 shoulder boards are a very nice touch to his obviously faked uniform.
But then hey what do I know I’m only an Army E-6 *shrugs*
To this wannabe’s defenders, the left continually trots out these fake “veterans” to try and make it look like the Dear Leader has real support from the troops.
Wannabe Willie here, TomInTib the confirmed fake SEAL over at DU and of course the vaunted Jesse MacBeth.
All claimed to be combat veterans…all of them believed by the Left.
All proven to be fake.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Ahhh JMarra. Another pathetic moonbat that just doesn’t get it. I would prefer this guy WAS a civilian than a Vet. A Vet should realize just how dishonerable it is to wear awards that have not been earned. I don’t care if you are unimpressed with his transgression. Those of us who served in honor care. Talk like your’s would earn you a quick ass whooping and a kick out the door at my favorite watering hole. Come on down to Georgia and give it a try.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Yeah, guys ease up. It’s just an Obama supporter breaking federal law, what’s the big deal?
[/channeling Jmarra]
October 26th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
What bothers me most about things like this is that there are those of us, that for one reason or another wear our ribbons (for instance on veterans day) If you’re going to wear ANY ribbons or medals, wear them RIGHT!!!
The Armed forces are, and must remain an apolitical organization. We can not afford to be drawn into politics. If an SM has acted meritoriously and runs for office, that record can be used, but to just toss around medals, and say “I’m a war hero and I support *****” is wrong, and it gives all of us a headache
October 26th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
It’s sad how much fraud there is in this campaign.
Sad.
http://mccainpalin2008.blogspot.com
October 26th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
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October 26th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
maybe ACORN brought him to the rally??????????
October 26th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Probably just an old, lonely guy that collects military ribbons and badges. It was the Washington Times that tried to imply that veterans are for Obama, including this well decorated one.
The Washington Times could have easily written the capiton as such:
“Charlie W. Williams of Raeford, N.C., who says he is a veteran of the Korean and Vietnam wars and likes to collect militay ribbons….”
October 26th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
THOSE CLOWNS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
There was a fellow over at FloppingAces who claimed a number of conservative distinctions, and then to have voted for Nixon before his ship left for Nam,
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/21/obamas-whopper-of-a-lie/#comment-113755
but now was forced to vote for Obama.
I asked him what his ship was, and he gave me the name of a ship that went to Nam, spent about 10 months there, and returned SIX MONTHS BEFORE NIXON WAS EVEN NOMINATED.
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/21/obamas-whopper-of-a-lie/#comment-113772
The Obamanats are out in force, and lying their butts off.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Thelma,
That’s like saying Willie Sutton just liked collecting pictures of Presidents.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
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October 26th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
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October 26th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
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October 26th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Hey doesn’t it say he’s a commander of the Military Order of the Purple Hearts? Sounds like a phony version of the real organization.
What a turd.
October 26th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Every one is ready to stone this old VET….the article did not question the fact that he is a Vet just he medals. We don’t know the circumstances around this man. Does he still suffer from PTSD, is he homeless and on the streets like many Vets, does he have a drug alcohol problem….etc.
No everyone wants to try and us it to a political advantage without even having the facts. Just show how low many in this nation have sunk.
Jonn wrote: Most of the people who come to this blog are combat veterans. Maybe those things you wrote are true about us, too, and your comment just drove us all over the edge.
October 26th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
It hasn’t been mentioned but he claims the Asiatic-Pacific Campaign Medal on his left side which only ran from 1941 to 1945 (3rd row, first ribbon) which I’ve seen in my grandfather’s possession & the Army Superior Unit Award (2nd row, second ribbon) which was created in 1985.
October 26th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
I have found out another one. The “Humanitarian Service Medal” (4th row, fourth ribbon) which was created by President Ford in 1977.
October 26th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Willie looks like he is 5150 and likes to pad his actual service, which isn’t uncommon for people with mental issues. Of course, the media wants Willie’s photo because he appears to be a heavily decorated veteran supporting Obama. Hey JMarra, pound sand kool-aid drinker and wannabee, since the majority of veterans and active duty military supports McCain/Palin.
October 26th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Erm I meant to say 3rd row, fourth ribbon, not 4th.
October 26th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
If you look at the data provided by the P.O.W. Network, you will see that his component was listed as R, for Reserve, and his total active federal military service as 293. That is 293 days on active duty total for 26 years of service. This record shows that he was a reservist and very likely did not spend any time deployed to a combat zone during that time. Vietnam tours were 365 days, and Korea tours even longer.
293 days of total active federal military service could easily have been accumulated from basic training, AIT some and annual training as a reservist. Post WWII to late 80s reservists rarely, if ever, deployed, and when they did it was for long periods of time. This man’s medals have “phony” written all over them.
Gromit
October 26th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Today they had an article in the Chicagi Tribune about fake heros so to speak. How there is a hefty fine and/or a prison sentence for wearing or proclaiming awards you haven’t earned.
What’s even better on the page next to the article was a full page ad for a company that sells military memorabilia, including ribbons, medals etc.
Only in Chicago.
October 26th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
To those who think wearing medals not earned is no big deal,
Admiral Boorda comes to mind.
October 26th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Where’s the good conduct medal? Or did I miss it somehow?
October 26th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Let me assure you that this man is a phony and a wannabe. He is one of thousands as confirmed by the POW Network and Stolen Valor websites.
The tragic part of this occurs when his family, friends and acquaintances are hit with the truth. That often happens when they attempt to have him interred in Arlington National Cemetery or want a headstone depicting awards and decorations in other national cemeteries. They have created a false persona and when certification or verification is requested and denied, it becomes very sorrowful indeed.
Professionally, we used to have a name for these kind of people and it was “bubble busters”.
Admiral Boorda, RIP, was warned and/or advised three times during his career that he was not authorized the awards and decorations which he chose to wear and falsely attribute to himself. In additionally, he was the chief of Naval Personnel before ascending to the position of Chief of Naval Operations.
But for those who still continue to falsely claim such awards and decorations: BEWARE! There is now the Stolen Valor Act which is now part of Title 18 of the US Code.
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October 26th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
FWIW, this clown JMarra is just another of Zero’s “in your face” asshats. He spends his days searching for blogs critical of Zero and leaves comments typical of those he wrote above.
He’s a dick - ignore him.
October 26th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Reminds me of the soldier in the bus terminal in Kansas City in the early 60’s. Just out of basic, going home for his first leave. He was wearing a set of Major leaves on his collar and Sgt stripes on his sleeves. When ask what rank that indicated he said he was a Sgt Major. Needless to say about a hundred other soldiers rolled on the floor laughing. True story. Maybe this is the same guy. The way to tell a fairy tell from a war story is with the starting line. Fairy tales start with ‘once upon a time’ and war stories start with ‘now this ain’t no sh**’.
October 26th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
As a former Marine, I’m laughing my ass off looking this Ass-clown, “Willie”.
Aside from all the other mistakes the idiot has made with his obviously faked medals; he has the Humanitarian Service Medal, above his right breast pocket, and he has it in a golden Frame.
The Humanitarian Service Medal wasn’t created until the late 70’s I believe, it’s a Personal Award, strictly controlled; to have earned it, you are on a List, by name, somewhere, either in HQ Dept of the Army or HQMC.
Additionally, it is ALWAYS worn on the Left side, and is NEVER in a gold frame; the gold frames are only for certain Unit Awards, never for personal awards.
I also love the Southwest Asia Service Medal he is wearing for Service in the Gulf War; which means he was on Active Duty sometime after 1991…yeah right! It’s also worn incorrectly; the base award of the Ribbon has to have a least One brass star on it; it cannot be worn alone.
I also love the Navy-Marine Combat Action Ribbon; members of the US Army are specifically forbidden from wearing it! Even if they were with a Marine or Navy Unit that earned one.
He is also wearing a Navy Meritourious Unit Commendation, called a “MUC”; again, which is forbidden for members of the US Army to wear.
He is wearing a Silver Oak Leaf on his Bronze Star by the sway, not a Bronze oak Leaf; a Silver Oak Leaf means FIVE awards of that particular Ribbon, not one; and the Base Ribbon counts as another; so “Willie” is claiming to have a total of SIX Bronze Stars with a “V” device for Valor; if that were the case, he would be one of the Most Decorated Heroes in American Military History, and would have Books and movies written about him.
On his right breast pocket, second ribbon from the right, bottom row, is the Joint Meritourious Unit Award (JMUA); it does come with a gold frame, and at least he has it on the right side; but it is the Senior most ribbon on that side, and should be up at the top of that rack, not down at the bottom, in the wrong position.
He has his Army Commendation Medals right after his Purple Hearts; but the ArCom is outranked by the Joint Service Meritourious Medal and the Meritorious Service Medals that he is wearing right after them, in other words, they are out of order, and NO Senior NCO, worth his salt, IF he had ever earned them, would make such a blatant mistake on the order of wear of medal/ribbon precedence.
He does the same thing just after that, with Army Acheievement Medal, which on his chest, is outranked by an Overseas Training Ribbon and a Korean Unit Award.
Bottomline; this guy is a Poseur, a la John Kerry, and so many other Traitor Democrats (those words are reduntant, or an oxymoron, I know!).
He may have been a Reservist, who in his 20+ years, served as a Stateside (REMF…Rear Echelon Mother-F*&’er”); but there is NO WAY he earned a fraction of what he’s wearing, and just the clownish nature of his “get-up”; plus the fact that he has them all messed up in terms of precedence, etc., shows that he is nothing more than a fraud and a typical Moonbat Leftist Nutbag Democratic Traitor…again, all redundant words, I know.
October 26th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
JMarra is a punkass. His opinion of the military is typical for the liberal morons supporting Obamarama.
October 26th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
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October 26th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Did somebody order some crow?
You guys won’t stand up and admit you were wrong about anything. Hell, most of the soldiers on this board are more likely to be fake than ol’ Willie here.Being a Keyboard Commando ain’t service.
October 26th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
This guy must be nuts, recently released from a mental ward or was disabled mentally from the service.
Why any one lies about there connected service awards and citations I’ll never understand.
I’m a peace time veteran, yet served along with thousands of others during the Iran hostage crisis during Operation Eagle Claw aboard CV-43.
Now that wasn’t to difficult to say and its not misleading.
An investagation should be conducted to determine if this guy is sane enough to be fined or jailed.
October 26th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
He is also wearing a Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation, called a “MUC”; again, which is forbidden for members of the US Army to wear.
I thought everyone involved in Operation Eagle Claw received the MUC?
October 26th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
They don’t just hand out medals like that in the Navy. Took me three years to get a Sea Service ribbon, and four years to get the Good Conduct Medal.
My conduct wasn’t all that great, I just didn’t get caught.
Third row, last ribbon on our right (his left)- I think the Army gives that to everyone that finished boot camp.
October 26th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
I’m with you Bruce, and “Cross”’s comment above proves he’s just another Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Delusional Democratic Traitor Nutbag, like his Idol, “Willie”.
I joined the Corps and was in training when the Beirut Bombing hit; when the Gulf War came along, I was in Spain; I went into Iraq, the northern part, from Turkey, for Operation Provide Comfort; I’m not a “combat vet” by any means.
But, I had not control over that; you go where the Marine Corps sends you, when they send you.
I was in the Arabian Gulf, during Operation Ernest Will, but that was it!
So, I missed the action down south in the Gulf War; and as I got out in ‘94, and went off Active Duty in ‘95, that was the extent of my “war” service.
Nothing to see, move along.
So “Cross”; how does that make me a “fake”?
I haven’t claimed any Medals, nor valorous service that I don’t have!
But I DO know my Ribbons and Medals, I had to inspect people’s uniforms, and as a Marine Officer, you Must learn the Precedence of the order of the ribbons, medals, etc., so you can properly inspect your troops.
So, I KNOW, even after all this time, how to spot a phony!
“Willie” may have been a reservist, and served some time, but he’s a phony thru and thru, and a Democrat too; which is no surprise.
But he’s not the only one, remember this guy? He was a Private in the Army, promoted himself all the way to Marine Brigadier General, with a Navy Cross:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8893129/
here’s another:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/325655_fakevet31.html
When I was in, Borda was the most famous case of a guy with fake medals, having killed himself.
But, we knew of cases on a monthly basis. I knew a Navy Capt with a Silver Star, claimed he was a “SEAL” in ‘NAM; turned out he was bullshit; sucked down the barrel of a Glock when he got caught, out of deference to his family, I won’t mention his name; but I knew who he was, and so did about 20 of my fellow JMO’s.
Even knew of a Army Colonel, he was in Personnel, the guy had actually Promoted himself, all the way from 2nd Lt to Colonel, written his own Evaluations and given himself his own awards, he was in Personnel, and had access to everything; he managed his own career for almost 20 years!
He only got caught, when he put himself in for BG; that’s a whole different level, goes to a different list, and requires a Background check up at the Service HQ; that’s when somebody, finally, after 20 yearrs, said “Hey, wait a minute….??
Yep, the Military is just like any other institution, it has its share of fakes, frauds, nuts, and phonies…John Kerry, Richard Lugar, LBJ’s fake Silver Star, etc., etc….
“Willie” is just one more, unfortunately… in a long line of them.
The only people that defend them, are the “Democrats”, but then again, that’s to be expected.
October 26th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
He is also wearing a Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation, called a “MUC”; again, which is forbidden for members of the US Army to wear.
I thought everyone involved in Operation Eagle Claw received the MUC?
Bruce, I knew many Army people, and they always told me they were not allowed to wear the “MUC” if they received it from being attached to a Navy/Marine Unit; you can google the Army Regs, and check it out; my knowledge is from ‘95, and thus dated; but as of the time I got out, Army people couldn’t wear it; if they got special dispensation, or a “waiver”; it would have to the SECDEF-level; I guess it’s possible, but again, I never heard of it, and Army guys always hated to earn Marine/Navy ribbons, and vice versa, because you were usually not allowed to wear them; Personal Awards being the exception.
But even if ass-Willie got a “waiver” to wear that one; it doesn’t explain the 20 other major discrepancies, and Uniform violations that others, and myself have pointed out.
They’re blatant, and really, really obvious, to anyone who’s even spent a minimum amount of time in Uniform.
No senior NCO would make so many basic mistakes.
This earned about 5 ribbons in his career, and the rest he bought at the Army/Navy store surplus outside the front gate of Fort Bragg, and just pinned them all over his uniform, to “gussy” himself up!
He’s nuts…
October 26th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Still a shit bag in my book either way.
October 26th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
“Willie” is wearing 35 seperate ribbons in his two “stacks”; not counting oak leaves for additional awards.
And not counting those completely bogus 3 medals he has on his right breast pocket.
In all my years of looking at medal “stacks”; Generals always had the most; and if you were/are a General, you were lucky to have 18 - 25 different Ribbons.
And there are more Ribbons & Awards now, than there ever was; when “Willie” was on Active Duty, it was not unusual for a 20 year vet to get out, with about 10 or less ribbons.
I’ve only ever seen ONE person, with more than 30 ribbons; there is one Marine Corps General, currently on Active Duty, who has 32 ribbons, and that’s because he’s been in every Campaign the Corps had, since the Beirut Bombing, basically.
“Willie” is a complete fraud, and he could be Prosecuted for the Bronze Star thing.
But, I think he’s insane, actually…
October 26th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Check out the Medal stacks of some REAL Heroes; and see how they compare to Willies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audie_Murphy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Patton
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Powell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesty_Puller
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_L._Jones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Pace
“Willie” has more ribbons than all of them!
So, do you believe “Willie”, or the evidence?
October 26th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Thanks for catching this. I truly loathe those that don’t know how to wear the uniform and/ or fraud themselves when doing so. My hat’s off to those that researched this and acted so quickly!! My awards are sitting in my shadow box, where they belong. I wouldn’t even consider wearing my uniform or my ribbons & medals to a political rally. Why is it that the frauds continue to violate military regs ?? Ohhh, that’s right….. the ends justify the means if one is a Liberal… (sarcasm)
October 27th, 2008 at 12:03 am
He may have earned eligibilty to do time and pay a fine of up to $100,000, according to an article I read this morning, if, and it’s an IF, he violated the use of “valor” awards, worn without being earned. Wearing ribbons for service in campaigns before or after his service may not qualify for the felony.
At the very least, he’s a flagrant fraud.
October 27th, 2008 at 12:26 am
I’m shocked by the comments here. The man’s a veteran, he deserves respect.
Obviously he’s an old guy who’s proud of his service. He wears his medals, and an assortment of badges that he’s accumulated along the way. Anyone looking at him would know that he couldn’t possibly have received these awards himself. But to call him “shitbag” and heap scorn on him because he doesn’t follow regs?
Who knows what his motives are? Maybe he’s proud not only of his service, but of all veterans. Maybe he wears all those ribbons to show his pride of country. Maybe he’s proud of the military, of all branches of the service. Maybe some of those awards belonged to his buddies, or his family members, and he wants to honor them. No one who knows anything about the military would think that he earned all those medals himself.
He’s an old guy who hasn’t been in the army for 34 years. After what he’s been through, he probably doesn’t give a damn about the regs. He saw probably more action than a lot of the right-wing blowhards who like to invent fantasy service histories for themselves.
At least he served, unlike a lot of chickenhawks who got five deferments (Cheney) or who got assigned to champagne non-combat units to avoid Vietnam (B*sh). Look at all the pro-war cowards who support sending other people to fight the Iraq War, despite doing everything they could to avoid enlisting themselves.
October 27th, 2008 at 12:49 am
Oh, the tool Willie, supposedly in the US Army, is wearing a Marine Corps Rifle Expert Qualificaiton Badge on his Left Breast pocket, and the bars for subsequent awards, worn underneath it, are worn Army Style; Marine Corps style, a single bar is worn on Top of the Qualification Badge, stating the number of times you’ve qualified for that award!
What an interesting blend of Army, Marine & Navy insignia he has on his “uniform”!
Here’s a link to a very comprehensive chart of US Military Deocrations currently auhtorized for wear on US Military Uniforms, and the precedence they are to be worn in.
Note that the MOH is not here, because they cannot legally be sold or bought.
http://www.usmedals.com/RibbonSelect.aspx?res=1280
The tool-Willie is wearing two ROK Svc Medals; one in ribbon form on his left breast pocket, and one in Medal from on his right breast pocket.
The Medal in the Middle on his Right Breast Pocket, is the Department of Transportation’s 9-11 medal; that was given out to some Civilians, and very few Military members; wonder how Willie got one??
The last Medal he is wearing, with the ribbon as a US Flag, is some type of bogus “Commemorative” Medal; I’ve seen it somewhere before, but can’t locate where exactly; but I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone desperate enought to wear one before…
October 27th, 2008 at 12:55 am
Dear Jasper,
“Probably” doesn’t cut it. Claiming you are more than you were doesn’t honor the real heroes who died in war. Saying you are a veteran, when you use that fact to denigrate what your prior service stood for (defending America and the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic) just so you can get your picture in the paper and make some kind of fame for yourself at the expense of the Truth is distasteful and dishonorable.
“Willie” is a fraud, pure and simple. Veterans neither respect Liars, nor tolerate blowhards trying to influence public opinion and national elections by claiming they are something they are not, like claiming a chest full of fruit salad to imply you are some kind of war hero. True Heroes don’t lie about their service. And “Willie” can’t claim to be an old vet who just happens to be unable to follow the rules and still claim any moral authority on veterans issues or who is better at defending this country. If you don’t know enough to tell your story correctly, then you don’t know shit, do you?
We’re tired of your kind always defending someone who only espouses your personal point of view, and then claims soldiers in the National Guard were “assigned to champagne non-combat units to avoid Vietnam”. Like our Guardsmen in Iraq don’t deserve respect. Like our Guardsmen flying Combat Air Patrol on 9-11 don’t deserve credit for flying that day. Like our Guardsmen during VietNam weren’t performing the duties we assigned them. I don’t give two shits what you think of me or any other military man in the country. But I’m sick of hearing that service in the Air National Guard was dodging service to your country, just to get out of VietNam. How’s that Guard service working out today at avoiding serving in Afghanistan and Iraq, nimrod?
Now you can defend this wannabe hero all you want. But we’re tired of you trying to tell us what Honor is and what it isn’t. We know an Honorable Man when we see his actions. Bush has it. “Willie” doesn’t.
Subsunk
October 27th, 2008 at 12:57 am
He’s an old guy who hasn’t been in the army for 34 years. After what he’s been through, he probably doesn’t give a damn about the regs. He saw probably more action than a lot of the right-wing blowhards who like to invent fantasy service histories for themselves.
At least he served, unlike a lot of chickenhawks who got five deferments (Cheney) or who got assigned to champagne non-combat units to avoid Vietnam (B*sh). Look at all the pro-war cowards who support sending other people to fight the Iraq War, despite doing everything they could to avoid enlisting themselves.
Typical Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Leftist Democratic Traitor remarks; and clearly by someone who hasn’t served, or you’d know better than to make them!
Anyone, ANYONE, who has actually served, and earned their Medals and Ribbons, KNOWS that the biggest Diservice you can do, to your uniform, your medals, your ribbons, and the sacrifice in Blood, Toil, Sweat & Tears that they represent of those who have passed before you, are to wear them in a disrespectful, bogus, fraudulent manner!
That is the ULTIMATE sin; anyone who has served, knows that!
That is why people like Willie are full of crap; and deserve to be called out!
That is why John Kerry, and Lugar, and others are liars, frauds, and traitors.
That is why you are an Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Delusional Democratic Leftist Traitor Nutbag; and why you will NEVER understand!
Don’t even start with Bush’s Air National Guard Service; I’ll FRY you on that!
Anything and everything you say about that, is complete and utter Lefist Fraud.
Cheney’s deferments: he admitted it, and though I don’t admire him for it, he never ran from it, and never hid from it, and never denied it.
Unlike John Kerry, who got Three Deferments, before he “volunteered” to join.
Oh yea, look who else got FIVE Deferments, for a NON-EXISTENT “asthma” condition; that some how didn’t keep him from playing HS & College Sports, and for some reason now, doesnt’ seem to matter to you Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Lefist Delusional Democratic Traitors!
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=35169
Yeah, that’s right: JOE BIDEN!
Wow, let’s talk about that, hun?
POS…
October 27th, 2008 at 1:12 am
He saw probably more action than a lot of the right-wing blowhards who like to invent fantasy service histories for themselves.
PS: “Japser” show me ONE “rightwing” person who’s invented his Military History, and I’ll show you TWENTY freaking Democrats!
http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/johnson.silver.star/story/storypage.html
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=FE4CC29C-646B-42C6-B494-226C454BB38B
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2007/10/atlantic_city_mayor_still_miss.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Harkin
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/figures-top-attack-dog-in-palin.html
http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies.htm
http://www.vetsexpo.org/frauds.htm
Check out actor Brian Dennahey on that last list! The actor from “Cocoon” and “Rambo”!
VAST majority, especially the Politicians, Democrats, one and all!
Check out Senator Tom Harkin!
Check out Sarah Palin’s “opponent” from Alaska…Bogus claims of being a Marine Vet!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
October 27th, 2008 at 1:22 am
I have made one mistake in my posts above, and I’ll correct it now: for some reason, I keep trying “Lugar”, instead of “Harkin”.
It is Harkin who lied about his Vietnam-era service; not Richard Lugar.
I apologize to Senator Lugar for the slight, and the mistake.
But Tom Harkin IS a POS, and like all the other Democrats who lie about their service records.
Everything else I wrote in all the posts above, is accurate and correct!
October 27th, 2008 at 3:57 am
Subsunk,
I don’t know about you, but I was disappointed that Willie didn’t include a set of Dolphins with his salad. How’d we get left out?
Dale,
We used to say “the best Marine is a Submarine”, but you’re alright. LOL
I love the left…they run around with their little hands waiving in the air screaming, “Ahhh Bush was a Guardsman!!” Yeah… he replaced a Draft Dodger, you didn’t seem to have a problem with HIM. “Ahhhh McCain was a lousy student in the Naval Acadamy!!” Yeah… 23 years in uniform, five of those spent as a POW, and he’s running against a guy who’s only experience with the military was wearing a USMC shirt playing basketball. Wow…THERE’S a contest(eye roll). “Ahhh You’re picking on a decorated Veteran!” Hey dumbass, self decoration doesn’t count. Decorations have got to be earned not purchased at a flea market. But it IS almost Halloween… maybe Obama can dress up like a Marxist… oh wait, he’s got that costume on already.
October 27th, 2008 at 4:22 am
RE: jasperjava
I never served in the Armed Forces. My brothers and I were the first in a long long line not to wear a uniform and our Dad (Army Air Corp) was OK with that. And yet, I completely understand the concept of Honor and discipline and tradition that requires these medal fakes be illuminated. You, jasper, will never understand any of it. In the past you might have been put to sleep or sold as a sex worker, but in today’s Society you were insted raised to take the other side whenever you encountered a person of worth in the mistaken theory that that would grant you stature. Since you’ve decided not to do anything in this life that has any lasting effect, there is no remedy. Counseling and therapy will actually worsen your condition.
Please be quiet and don’t bother adults.
October 27th, 2008 at 7:48 am
Who cares that he is wearing a few medals that are give aways? It’s not like he is wearing a MOH or silver star. Besides, there is only one badge on his uniform that matters: The CIB with star denoting two REAL wars unlike the pathetic contingency operations the rest of us did where we may have heard a shot or two fired in anger (oh wow, scary!). This guy was a grunt during the Korean and Vietnam Wars. Try holding off waves of North Koreans, Chinese and North Vietnamese like this guy obviously did and then maybe you can comment about his medals not being in order. Everybody owes him an apology and the respect due to a defender.
October 27th, 2008 at 8:04 am
I’ll believe he has a CIB when I see the DD214. If he’s wearing a glider badge he didn’t earn, how do we know he earned his CIB?
I’ll post my DD214 and show you my CIB when Willie’s is posted.
October 27th, 2008 at 8:04 am
And what exactly is a give-away medal? The combat action ribbon (navy & mc) is a give-away?
October 27th, 2008 at 8:20 am
I don’t claim any military service at all. It’s hilarious to see that leftist come onto this board and slander Bush over his service in the Air National Guard. My father still serves in the Air National Guard since 1984 which he’s made a career out of it rather than being a “Weekend Warrior” that alot of National Guardsmen do. However there are still hundreds of thousands of these people like my father who make a career out of protecting the airspace of the United States.
The following units that protects the US Airpsace is
104th Fighter Wing (Barnes)
120th Fighter Wing (Great Falls)
125th Fighter Wing (Jacksonville)
142nd Fighter Wing (Portland)
144th Fighter Wing (Fresno)
148th Fighter Wing (Duluth)
158th Fighter Wing (Burlington)
177th Fighter Wing (Atlantic City)
So you have 8 dedicated fighting units that have done their share in protecting US Airspace as best as they could including giving their share contributing to the US Military effort worldwide as a whole.
Of course, I forget the leftist meme, the National Guard is a “champagne” service, not a real one.
October 27th, 2008 at 8:39 am
“Of course, I forget the leftist meme, the National Guard is a “champagne” service, not a real one.”
As we liked to say before we went on patrol: 1 weekend a month, 52 weeks a year.
Longest AT ever, 18 mos.
October 27th, 2008 at 8:59 am
IIRC, Bush volunteered for an ANG program that sent Guard pilots to Viet Nam for a year, but his fighter was being phased out, and he was turned down.
I also understand, unlike the enlisted Guard during Viet Nam, there actually was a shortage of men qualified for combat flying, and GWB needed no string pulling to become an ANG officer.
October 27th, 2008 at 9:03 am
To Jasper and Cross
<—- DU is that way.
Your Liberal terrorist loving anti-military buddies at Kos/HuffPo & DU may fall for this fake in the same manner they did for Jesse MacBeth but for those of us who have nothing to hide on your DD 214’s fakes like this and the idiots that defend them are a black stain on all of us.
Oh and as for the “keyboard commando” comment?
Anytime one of you Libtard asshats wants to see my 214 or my ERB I’ll be happy to show you.
October 27th, 2008 at 11:37 am
What be with that pimped out pimpmaster? Why don’t have no MOH? I bet that be ‘cuz even he’s not that crazy and realize that be sure wy to bring smoke on his funky ass.
He may be crazy now (betch tertiary syphilis), but he sure wasn’t when he started pimping himself up. Throw that MoFo’s funky ass in jail; he probably needs ths shelter anyway.
Or is that another OhBummer program along with “speradign around the wealth”? Maybe this is “sperading around the glory”.
October 27th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Karl, Karl, Karl….
“Besides, there is only one badge on his uniform that matters: The CIB with star denoting two REAL wars unlike the pathetic contingency operations the rest of us did where we may have heard a shot or two fired in anger (oh wow, scary!). This guy was a grunt during the Korean and Vietnam Wars.”
Real wars? Korea and Vietnam were real wars?
OK let’s examine your statement. Korea was not a war but rather an attempt by the UN to “keep the peace”. No declaration of war because Korea never attacked us. We lost over 18K a year because of Truman during that time.
Vietnam was a police action with no declaration of war started by Eisenhower, continued and expanded by Kennedy and completely f’ed up by Johnson. Vietnam never attacked us. We lost over 5,800 a year in Vietnam.
Both sound suspiciously like every conflict in which we have lost American service members since.
“Real” wars, my ass. Every war is a real war.
Back to the topic at hand, I think the best way to address the issue of “Willie” is to contact him and help him get his awards straight so his service can be honored appropriately regardless of whom he supports in the election. It shows that we are above the fray of idiocy and partisanship.
All veterans should be held up by other vets regardless of their views.
Semper Fi.
October 27th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
“I think the best way to address the issue of “Willie” is to contact him and help him get his awards straight so his service can be honored appropriately regardless of whom he supports in the election. It shows that we are above the fray of idiocy and partisanship.”
And;
“All veterans should be held up by other vets regardless of their views.”
Well said brother.
October 27th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Both candidates have plenty of supporters who are not the best example. No one with half a brain on either side of this election will believe that “Willie” actually earned all of those medals. While Willie shouldn’t be wearing medals he didn’t earn that may not be the biggest of Willie’s issues judging by his photo. The more egregious issue is the Washington Post’s poor choice of photograph and caption used to illustrate Obama’s visit to Fayetteville. A photo of almost anyone could have served under the caption of a “supporter of Democratic candidate Sen. Barack Obama”. But to paint democrats and liberals as traitors and terrorist loving jihadists is just ridiculous and goes too far. Get a hold of yourself. With “friends” like you who needs enemies?
October 27th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
DD214’s fall under freedom of information act.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Kaitian,
There were about 70 USAF and Air Guard pilots killed flying the same plane as Bush. None were combat deaths.
These libs dishonor the service of these men in their Bush Derangement Syndrome.
It was a tough plane to fly and the Air Defense in all weather and at night were dangerous.
While the USAF trained Bush to fly that plane for TANG, a state of the art, supersonic intercepter armed with air to air missiles with nuclear warheads to defend the USA against Soviet bombers sent to drop nukes on US cities, the Navy was teaching Kerry how to steer a boat and the Army was teaching Gore how to operate a typewriter.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
C’mon, guys. This is a pitiful old man, he apparently is really a veteran, but it’s obvious to a blind owl that he never earned all those medals. In his mind, he probably did, but that’s the only place it happened. One look at his tattered outfit is enough to tell you his story, and it’s a sad one. Let him have his dreams - no one is taking him seriously, except some wooden-headed reporter from “The Washington Times”, and who believes them, anyway?
October 27th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Kaitian,
I think Clinton took away the Atlantic City squadron’s mission.
On 911, the first planes in the air to go after the hijacked jets were DC ANG.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
“One look at his tattered outfit is enough to tell you his story, and it’s a sad one.”
He doesn’t look sad to me.
But you know he’s sad because…?
October 27th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Don’t be too hard on the old shit-bag. One of those fine folks in the background may be the next SEC DEF or SEC State.
October 27th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
“This is a pitiful old man, he apparently is really a veteran, but it’s obvious to a blind owl that he never earned all those medals. In his mind, he probably did, but that’s the only place it happened. One look at his tattered outfit is enough to tell you his story, and it’s a sad one. Let him have his dreams - no one is taking him seriously, except some wooden-headed reporter from “The Washington Times”, and who believes them, anyway?”
I agree. hes most likly poor as shit, and he feels like no one remembers him. Hes only doing it for attention because his military past was the best part of his life.
October 27th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Good point, Hoot! I have a new name for The Big O - Black Mamba. He is a snake from the word go, and if he gets into power we’ll all get bit. I’m amazed at the number of people who can’t see beyond next week, or the number of so-called “smart” people who have been suckered in by this anti-American, Arab Muslim terrorist, who passes himself off as a phony darky.
October 27th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Willie aka “PX Ranger” needs to be schooled on the proper wear of ribbons and which ones are authorized for wear IAW one’s verified military record.
October 27th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Kyrandos Says:
October 27th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
DD214’s fall under freedom of information act.
Funny, John Kerry didn’t think so.
October 27th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
I didn’t think that DD-214s were subject to FoIA requests. You have to fill out an SF-180 to have them released… the very form that John Kerry refused to sign.
Paul
October 28th, 2008 at 12:26 am
JMarra Says:
“So, was he once a soldier, or not? Can you prove he’s NOT a VET, instead of just a vet with a penchant for wearing ribbons as decorations (gasp! The idea!).
Morons for McCain, scrabbling desperately at any straw they can find. As if proving that this guy wears medals he didn’t earn PROVES anything. You still haven’t proven that he isn’t a vet–only that he doesn’t wear his medals to your satisfaction.”
JMarra,
What you fail to understand is no one said he was not a Vet, in fact they proved he was. What is at issue here is that he is wearing and claiming medals he did not nor could have earned.
As for your drunk friend? Maybe he had other issues as well. I’m a 100% Service Connected Veteran (Non-Combat related Injuries) and I draw that pension. Frankly to have my health back I would give up this pension in a flash. If you think it is such a good deal why don’t you join and go for that pension (which is an intilement).
I was awarded the VietNam Service Ribbon but refused to ware it because I don’t think I earned it being on the coast of Nam. There is honor among Vets and he (Willie) has broken that honor by claiming awards he did not nor could have earned. Until you serve this country don’t make claims you can not understand and it is more than wearing to our satisfaction, it is wearing them properly and according to regulations.
Ron Whaley
USN/Disabled
October 28th, 2008 at 9:44 am
I get a kick out of all the liberals here. They can about justify anything for there cause. He should be locked up. It would probably take another person off the welfare list anyway. Nothing sadder then a fake hero.
October 28th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
I don’t care whether or not he “collects” medals. As a veteran, he knows good and well that it is a FEDERAL CRIME (as well as a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice) to WEAR them if you didn’t EARN them!!! He dishonors every honest American veteran who ever lived, myself included!
The fact that the Obama campaign even TOLERATES him and others like him, much less parades them in front of the American public for propaganda purposes, is despicable. But what do you expect from a candidate who refuses to prove that he’s a natural-born citizen and therefore eligible to be President?
October 28th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
This is pretty common at gathering of DEM-wits. They are not so smart, as evidenced by their lemming herd headed for the cliff.
Like many of them, poor Willie needs serious mental health help.
October 28th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
JMarra,
Your obvious oversight of the first posting probably helps explain your idiotic ranting. He was a vet, his record is posted. No one disputes that.
Yes, for Veterans (since you obviously are not one) medals and how they are worn are VERY important. Just like the National Colors / US Flag is VERY symbolic and important to Patriots that understand its meaning in the proper context.
In fact, there are RULES, and REGULATIONs and even LAWS on proper US Military uniform presentation that are punishable offenses in US courts (that cover everyone…not just active duty, or retirees). You probably would not understand that concept either…because “rules” are just something you DEM-WITS don’t ever want to face. That would make you have to understand RIGHT versus WRONG, GOOD versus EVIL, WORK or STARVE and all other weird concepts that are so very “un-natural” to goofy kool-aid drinking lemmings like you who are too busy running for the cliff to see the gaping abyss.
Willie is YOU. YOU ARE WILLIE. YOU BOTH NEED SERIOUS MENTAL HEALTH HELP. Go find a medical proffesional with a McCAIN sticker on their bumper…they’ll help you get your medication.
For the rest of the goof-balls out there who feel sympathy for poor Willie…go to NC and help him get his life straight. No doubt he’ll be real proud to learn that he’s a liar and cheat and you are there to help him understand that the medals he’s added over the past couple of decades are falsifications that bring down his former honorable service to a base lie of gross proportions.
Look him in the eye, tell him he needs help. Take him to get it.
Don’t give the rest of us your BS concepts of why you think it is right / OK to misrepresent the FACTS of Military Service. Duty, HONOR, Country. Check to see if you can find the KEY word there. DEM-wits!
October 29th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
I stopped going to a local V F W because of jerks wearing ribbons they didn’t earn. This guy reminds me of another lying afro I ain’t votin’ for. By the way, the stars on the viet-nam service ribbon are not supposed to be lined up with the vertical stripes on the ribbon but evenly spaced across the ribbon. The combat action ribbon is a personal decoration and should be two rows higher than this nitwit is displaying it. Oh yeah, my name is also “Willie”, so this asshole has disgraced himself twice with me.
Fmr Sgt. William I. Beegle USMC 2209835
October 29th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
This is me again. Why do I see a Marine Corps Rifle experts badge, but don’t see a navy/marine good conduct medal. Hmmm.
fmr Sgt William I. Beegle USMC 2209835
October 29th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
The Flea Market was out of those Willie.
November 1st, 2008 at 9:10 pm
I don’t kow why you all have to think because he is a Obama supporter that it has anything to do with the candidate. This has nothing to do with politics and maybe it’s just an old man trying to relive his glory days. At least he isn’t one of these clowns dressing up in Blues and showing up at funerals for our troops and trying to pass themselves off as vets when they never served. It’s convenient to claim service when things like VietNam are in the past.
I saw something like this in ‘69 when I was in LA and an old man got on the bus with an old Navy uniform on and asked for a discount. He had to be a left over from WWII and he looked it.
I don’t think you should judge the candidate by this type of thing because if you do them judge deserting cowards who produce discharge papers after the record building in Kansas City burned down and they were getting coked up when they didn’t show up at their duty stations for the two weeks of drill. Remind you all of anyone? Especially us Viet vets who were doing our jobs when others had rich daddys to help them desert their obligations.