The Army selects a new camo pattern

| May 24, 2014 | 31 Comments

Scorpion W2

According to the Army Times and Military.com, the Army has finally selected a new camouflage pattern and I tend to think the name (Scorpion W2) has more to do with it’s selection than the actual pattern, since the pattern looks like Multicam with some minor differences, according to the Army Times;

Its color palette of muted greens, light beige and dark brown resembles MultiCam, the pattern used by soldiers deploying to Afghanistan. However, Scorpion W2 uses fewer beige and brown patches and none of the vertical twig and branch elements later added for MultiCam.

From Military.com;

Sgt. Major of the Army Raymond Chandler III has been briefing senior sergeants major throughout the Army about the new pattern for the Army Combat Uniform, but details are still limited.

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The Army has been considering replacing UCP with Crye Precision’s MultiCam — a pattern that has demonstrated consistent performance in multiple tests and was selected in 2010 for soldiers to wear in Afghanistan.

Army officials even tried to buy the rights to MultiCam but rejected Crye’s figure of $25 million, according to Caleb Crye, owner of Crye Precision. Army officials also balked at paying for “printing fees” the company receives on MultiCam — a small figure that amounts to about one percent of the 20 percent price hike uniform companies want to charge the Army for MultiCam, according to Crye.

This is right up there with the Shinseki beret. They probably spent more money on their selection process than they would have paying Crye their “printing fees”.

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  1. ANCCPT says:

    So, I’m getting ready to come out of the IRR, and I have no idea what the uniforms are going to be. My old ACU’s are just about to graduate to ‘field uniform’ status, but I don’t want to drop several hundred dollars on new ones to have them go away. Is there anything finite on paper yet, besides SMA talking to people and articles in Army Times?

    • Eric says:

      Don’t worry about it. Just go with what they issue you.

      Even if they were to announce the approval for wear 01 October this year (1% chance), they’d let people wear ACU’s for five years because it’ll take them that long to issue a new uniform to everyone.

      People are still authorized to wear Class A’s (green dress) right now, ASU’s were approved years and years ago.

      You’ll be fine, welcome back.

  2. O-4E says:

    @ANCCPT

    I wouldn’t worry about it

    http://www.militarytimes.com/article/20131212/NEWS/312120029/Congress-wants-common-camouflage-uniform

    That “new camo” will likely never see the light of day in its proposed configuration. Congress, thank God, has finally had enough of this idiocy fashion show

    • Devtun says:

      If there is money and jobs in it for congressional districts…not to be too cynical, but these pols grand stand and say “the right thing”…then do an about face when they start doing the math, and the mount of business that can be generated for constituents. The Army will get their way.

      • HS Sophomore says:

        My guess is that most of that stuff is going to be manufactured in the third world; it makes no sense financially to locate a clothing factory here. That probably goes a long way towards explaining why Congress finally decided to stop this BS; for once it’s an issue where there aren’t any strong and entrenched interests with a lot of congressional backing at home trying to prevent efficiency and reason from reigning.

        • SGT 1ST CLASS says:

          No, the Buy USA law requires the Services to buy US products! It has been a law for at least 50 years I believe.

  3. OWB says:

    Looks like someone is anticipating needing a more woodland camo. Hmmm.

  4. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    No way I see you wearing this new pattern from space. None. Unfortunately, when troops are massed and there are vehicles, heat from bodies and engines, maybe some smoke and all of the non-camo’ed equipment, I do see you. But, at close range, in a fight, if you’re behind cover and not shooting, I may not see you. Of course, that not shooting part may be a problem. So how about just avoiding the wearing of yellow, orange, and red? That will work.

  5. Tom Huxton says:

    Looks like a corner of a Jackson Pollack work.
    Let ‘em wear tropical khakis.

  6. Eric says:

    And if they’d just gone with Multi-Cam in the first place, they’d be within the requirements of Congress because the uniform is already in the inventory. I’m sure more than a few of us still have our Multicams too.

    Just like the Army spending 10 million to research a “new PT test” that got announced and then nixed by a few hundred comments on a discussion board. Now, from what I’ve seen, it looks like the Army is considering making a “crossfit” PT Test.

    I’m going to take a stab that if its too similar, Crye Precision will start up a court battle over it as well just to make some more money based off their trademark. Then it’ll continue to cost money for Mother Army.

    • PFM says:

      I had to turn in all my ACU stuff in exchange for Multicam this last deployment, and then get reissued ACU crap when I came back. In my closet I now have a set of OD fatigues, 4 different types of BDU, DCU, ACU and FRACU, Multicam and now apparently another pattern on the way. I’m running out of room :).

      • PFM says:

        Upon review, the only thing I am missing is the chocolate chip pattern from DS, but I sat on my ass in Germany and missed that one.

      • Martinjmpr says:

        4 different uniforms? I think you’re still at least one or two behind the Navy.

  7. Hondo says:

    The real p!sser for me is the fact that we’ll also have multiple variants of the new uniform – just like we did before with the BDU(HW), BDU(T), and DCU.

    I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again:
    1. Bring back the old wash-n-wear OD “pickle suit” for garrison wear.
    2. Come up with a woodland, desert, jungle, and arctic version of a field uniform. Make them base/post/camp/station CIF issue items.
    3. Issue each troop 4 sets of field uniforms in the pattern appropriate for their home area when they draw their gear from CIF. Use those for training or deployment. Turn them in on departure.
    4. DX the issued uniforms when deploying (or going on an exercise) to another region where the appropriate pattern isn’t the normal one issued at your home station, or if deploying as an individual replacement.

    Problem of “musical uniforms” every few years solved, and $$$ billions saved. And, frankly, I don’t see why the solution wouldn’t work for at least the Army/USMC/Air Force (Navy shipboard fire protection requirements might require a variant for the Navy, but I think even that could be done cheaper than different uniforms for all.)

    But that wouldn’t “look cool” or distinguish between the services at a glance, so it will never be implemented.

    • ArmyATC says:

      Not cool enough. Why not bring back the old wash ‘n wear “khakis” for garrison use then? Easy to maintain, looks good, and that stupid beret can be worn with them.

    • Sparks says:

      Hondo. Thank you! I loved the wash-n-wear pickle suit. Inexpensive and easy to maintain. Also a common camo pattern across the ground service branches you mentioned, makes sense, saves lots of money and well, I’ll say it again…it saves a LOT of taxpayer money.

  8. GoldenDragon says:

    Some of you are really showing your age in these comments haha

    “Bring back the Custer blues!”

    • Pinto Nag says:

      …or the OD green fatigues. I mean, don’t they ALL end up about that color once they get dirty enough and old enough?

      I’m KIDDING. Don’t THROW anything at me *ducks under desk*

  9. Lion7Yeoman says:

    Great. I can’t imagine what gay’d up “urban camo” crap the Navy will now have to procure to be cool like the Army. But now that we’re in no danger of war with Syria/Iran, or Russia, or anyone else our idiot politicians like to mess with, what better time to start dropping tens of millions of dollars on yet another new onslaught of uniform patterns.

    • Eric says:

      Oh come on, you guys look soooo cool in your purple fatiques… lol

      • Lion7Yeoman says:

        I wore the BDU’s and DCU’s, but never got to rock the purple/blue whatever-the-hell. When so much of our drilling in the fleet concerned how to stay alive once fallen overboard, I could not wrap my mind around the concept of blending in with the water…lol.

    • PFM says:

      I could never figure the reasoning behind the dark blue pattern – if I fall overboard into a dark ocean…

      • 68Whiskey says:

        When I was a young irresponsible SPC in AIT at Fort Sam, there was a rumor going around that the USN digi cammies were impregnated with some sort of florescent dye that would release upon immersion in seawater, to make the wearer more visible if he/she went overboard.

        Long story short, we were able to disprove this via the vigorous application of two buckets of salt water onto a pair of unsuspecting squids. Good times.

  10. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    I wonder how many more dump trucks full of money will be thrown away (With Contractors laughing and screwing the taxpayers all the way to the bank)before anything actually happens?

  11. Just an Old Dog says:

    Uniform changes, especially dress ones are pure bullshit. I was lucky that the Corps didn’t have a crap load of uniform changes.
    When it comes down to it, The US could have won every conflict from Desert Storm on even if the ground troops wore all green utilities.

  12. TrapperFrank says:

    We had a great uniform at one time, the OG 107 Jungle Fatigues. It was a functional uniform that worked and looked good. After about 3 days in the field, they took on the color of whatever environment you were in. For that matter, BDUs worked.

  13. OldSoldier54 says:

    Oh, dear GOD! Not another uniform!!??

  14. FatCircles0311 says:

    …….and Chi Coms have already pirated it for their own military use.

    At this stage I’m surprised the US Army just didn’t submit a prom dress because they keep trying to be the belle of the ball and it’s hilariously expensive.

  15. Martinjmpr says:

    Has anyone noticed in the recent invasion of Ukraine the Russian troops were wearing plain OD uniforms? Seemed to work fine for them.

    Oh, wait those weren’t troops they were “concerned citizens” who were out on a weekend holiday.

  16. Jay says:

    So after all this the US Army soldier gets stuck with the second best camo?
    The current administration is asking for multiple billions of dollars to spend on illegal aliens and the Army can’t spend a few million to pay to buy Multicam which has been proven in the Army’s own tests to be superior to Scorpion. Shame on you goverment.

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