Treason Trifecta: Bergdahl is a Deserter, Defector, and Collaborator

| June 4, 2014 | 108 Comments

Forgive the cynicism of this old infantry sergeant when it comes to media depictions of anyone and anything associated with the military. But they inevitably get it wrong: ranks, unit designations, and terminology. And most of all, what they never seem capable of comprehending is the military mindset regarding loyalty to your brothers in arms and the importance of successfully completing the mission. Except for the minuscule few veterans among them, journalists just don’t get it.

Let us hope that in the case of this recently apprehended deserter, Bowe Bergdahl, they will resist their natural compulsion to brand another American traitor a hero. Several liberal media outlets appear to be taking a balanced position rather than swallowing whole the Obama administration’s propaganda.

Notice that I do not use the term “POW” for the simple reason Bergdahl disgraces that description of his captivity. He is a wartime collaborator, or more precisely, a collaborationist, the term applied to treasonous soldiers who defected to the enemy in earlier wars. And apprehended is the correct term to apply to a deserter/defector now back under U.S. Army control in Germany.

Bergdahl deserted his platoon to fulfill what may turn out to be a family-concocted book-deal plan to undermine the mission of American troops in Afghanistan. His recorded words and those of his father indicate their sympathies to those Islamists we are fighting. PFC Bergdahl’s fuzzy, feel-good airs and mysterious conversations may well have been contrived to justify and camouflage his true intent to desert his post and go over to the enemy.

A truly surprising source, CNN, probably trying to compensate for its usual liberal bias, has disclosed that someone in government, presumably in the military command structure, tried to throw a blanket over Bergdahl’s defection early on:

Many of Bergdahl’s fellow troops – from the seven or so who knew him best in his squad to the larger group that made up the 1st Battalion, 501st Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division – told CNN that they signed nondisclosure agreements agreeing to never share any information about Bergdahl’s disappearance and the efforts to recapture him. Some were willing to dismiss that document in hopes that the truth would come out about a soldier who they now fear is being hailed as a hero, while the men who lost their lives looking for him are ignored.

America should be particularly proud of those troopers willing to risk prosecution to get the truth out about this phony hero and our government’s attempts to sweep that truth under the rug. Any of them who have a Republican or conservative Democrat senator or congressman should contact those officials immediately to obtain whistleblower protections. The rest of us need to let our political representatives know that we are going to fight, and that we want them to fight as well, any efforts by the Obama administration to whitewash this issue.

PFC Bergdahl’s premeditated acts of desertion, defection, and collaboration with the enemy resulted in the deaths of several American soldiers. For that, he must pay – if not with his life, which existing law permits, then with lifetime incarceration at Fort Leavenworth.

Crossposted at American Thinker

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  1. MGySgtRet. says:

    Non-disclosure agreements?? WTF??? That has conspiracy theory written all over it. Bergdahl deserted his post. More importantly, he deserted his fellow soldiers. He left them shorthanded to complete their mission.

    In the dynamic of an infantry platoon, anyone who does not pull his weight is either going to get “fixed” or he is going to be ostracized until he fixes himself. In Bergdahls case, he left his battle buddies high and dry and raised the danger level for all of them once they had to leave the wire continually to look for his dumb ass. He cost soldiers their lives.

    I think the anger of his former unit is well justified and any attempt to tamp it down should be exposed. If not, this will all get whitewashed and Bergdahl will not have to atone for his sins.

    • Isnala says:

      I posted this in another story but the NDAs were probably dropped ‘n the troops because it was considered an on going criminal investigation by Army CID. That’s actually standard practice so as not to poision the potential jury pool and to help ensure stories/potential testimony isn’t compromised/changed ubder pressure or the inflence of others. I’ve issued a couple of gag orders my self as an acting First Sergeant during investigations by AFOSI.

      • Luddite4Change says:

        When I was ever part of an investigation it was an order (either verbal or in writing) not to discuss the case, incident under investigation.

        A NDA, on the other hand, is a contractual obligation which is generally signed before an action or event or a a prior condition to something (such as a security clearance, job, or access to proprietary information).

    • Arby says:

      Guess who also had to sign non-disclosure agreements? The survivors of Benghazi! The current administration seems to think it can cover-up its fuckup with an NDA. I wonder just how many more times they have used NDAs to shut good people up?

  2. MAJMike says:

    This former PFC M113 track driver agrees.

  3. royh says:

    I haven’t watched the handover video yet, but seeing (at dailymail) the images of that helo on the ground while 18 Taliban terrorists armed with RPGs and AKs stand around made my skin crawl. I said on Facebook on Saturday or Sunday that life in Leavenworth seemed fair. That was before I heard about all the people who risked, and in some cases, lost their lives looking for the deserter. Now I feel differently and I am sure that no one in this administration has the strength to do what needs to be done.

    All of the deserter’s “The horror of” comments in his emails home made me think he watched a little too much Apocalypse Now.

    • Shane says:

      I disagree with your comment “all of the deserter’s “The horror of” comments in his emails home made me think he watched a little too much Apocalypse Now.”

      Ever been to war? And not just to graze at the DFAC on a FOB.

      He did some F**ked up stuff but being in battle will make the statement “The horror of” a mild statement.

      • royh says:

        Certainly horrific shit is seen in war and, yes, I’ve seen some horrific shit. Both during my time in the Navy and in my real job. But none of that has anything to do with what I perceived as the deserter channeling COL Kurtz.

  4. ohio says:

    Well stated

  5. ArmyATC says:

    Poetrooper, thanks for articulating what many of us have been thinking. There’s just far too much evidence to suggest that Bergdahl is nothing more than a deserter and collaborator and that this administration will do anything it can to whitewash the entire situation to make Bergdahl out to be some hero. I think it was Sparks who said on another Bergdahl thread, that the deserter would probably be awarded the POW medal, a PH, and maybe even a BS and that Obama would pin them on him in a White House ceremony. I hope it doesn’t happen, but it wouldn’t surprise me. Obama and his minions have far too much political capitol invested in Bergdahl to let him be anything than the hero that they’re acclaiming him to be.

  6. cato says:

    Thank you for not referring to this son-of-a-bitch as a US Army Sergeant as most of the media does.
    He was a PFC and no longer earns the respect of that designation, certainly not promoted for his dishonorable actions.
    He is indeed a deserter and traitor who has dishonored all who have served this Nation.

    • Ex-344MP says:

      Here is a point I may get a lot of flak for, but I am going to say it anyways.

      He may have been a PUC when he deserted, but he was promoted to Sgt.

      I was always taught to respect the rank, not the person. Any NCO can feel free to correct me.

      I know that he doesn’t deserve it, but he was getting paid for it.

      • Ron Snyder says:

        This former NCO disagrees with you. Just shoot the SOB and be done with it.

        • Ex-344MP says:

          I’m all for letting him hang. My issue is disrespecting the rank. The circumstances are what they are, but again, I was taught to respect the rank.

          The explanation for doing g so that I was given, is that the rank gets respect regardless of whether the person won your individual respect.

          Doesn’t it devalue the rank if you do not respect it?

          • Poetrooper says:

            MP, it is only required to respect the rank if the one bearing that rank does as well. In Vietnam, I served on battalion staff under a LTC who was a true old Airborne stud, having served in WWII and Korea. He was also a drunk who was frequently intoxicated when he could damned well been relieved of duty and court-martialed. He made life living hell for staff officers and NCO’s when he was drunk and gave orders that had by necessity to be ignored because they could imperil units in the battalion out on operations.

            I, as a staff sergeant, and duty NCO, once questioned a clearly foolish order when he was drunk. For that I was taken out behind the TOC and dressed down by the Bn XO who told me it was my duty to respect the rank. He also threatened to personally kick my ass if I ever dissed the C.O. again. Since the big son of a bitch had played tight end for Syracuse and had about five inches and forty pounds on me, I didn’t take him up on it, but I never regained any respect for the colonel or his rank.

            The man created unnecessary stress on his officers and NCO’s in an already stressful environment that made all their tours miserable. Last I heard the old bastard is still alive in his nineties and I honestly don’t know if I could ever find it in my heart to forgive him.

    • rfisher says:

      His personnel records should have been flagged right after he “went missing”.

  7. Pinto Nag says:

    I’m glad members of his unit came forward with the truth, or the Emperor would probably have ordered a ticker tape parade for him as we speak. On his way to get his medal(s), of course.

    The whole thing makes me want to PUKE.

    • ohio says:

      In one of the articles at the Daily Mail it said that he was so trusted by his captors that they allowed him to sleep without restraints and they allowed him to go hunting for small game with an old English rifle.

  8. bluliner10 says:

    While this individual is convalescing in Germany, convene the Article 32 for desertion. This way he can be detained further without the risk of him fleeing. This would or should be the easiest conviction, while the potential for additional charges of treason and collaboration are investigated and pursued.

    The administration really fouled this up. Recovering and claiming Bergdahl a hero does not make us forget how our prestige has fallen, we don’t forget the 4 who died fighting in Benghazi, does not erase the shameful lack of leadership at the VA, rather it illuminates the disdain held for that small percentage of rough men, who will do whatever so our countrymen may sleep soundly in their beds.

  9. JJAK says:

    What do you bet the only people that end up in court are the unit members that signed NDAs about the incident?

    • Valerie says:

      The NDA would not affect testimony in a court of law, civilian or military. Further, unless it is properly limited and for a proper purpose, it is void.

      For example: an NDA to avoid public comment during an investigation and possible taint of the jury pool will be upheld; an NDA designed to obstruct justice, or protect a bungling administration, will be held void.

  10. ChipNASA says:

    Who wants to take bets on:

    * How long it takes a poster to claim he was on the Bergdahl Extraction Team on the Blackhawk.

    /60 days.

    • USMCE8Ret says:

      I’m with you on that, ChipNASA.

    • Eric says:

      I’ll go with 17 days. But that’s just me.

      • Just an Old Dog says:

        Besides the interpreter there was one operator on ther ground for that swap.
        Im sure withing a year we will know all 1,251 of him.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      I’ll put my bet on 15 to 30 days!!

      • USMCE8Ret says:

        I can hear it now: “So after I patted Bergdahl down, we assisted him onto the helicopter and I was personally responsible for starting the debriefing process while an army doctor started to physically examine him…”

        Then, of course, there will be the pilot and door gunner stories.

  11. I wonder – – – ,

    What if this whole thing was an elaborate intelligence ruse that was staged from the git-go?

    Think Tom Clancy and/or John le Carre.

    Yes, from all outward appearances, as evidenced by security video and his own handwriting, it is patently obvious that Bowe Bergdahl is thoroughly disgraced, hated by everybody, for everybody KNOWS he’s a psychologically and/or emotionally unstable, low ranking enlistee, who deserted his post in a combat zone during wartime, and thereby is responsible for the combat deaths of other American soldiers.

    Can’t possibly dispute any of that, huh?

    Unless you’re Tom Clancy or John le Carre.

    What if Bowe Bergdahl was an intelligence asset deliberately infiltrated and embedded into the very heart of Taliban leadership, and since none of this can ever be revealed – – – ?

    After all, even though Robert Russell “Bobby” Garwood, Private, United States Marine Corps, was similarly accused of collaboration with the enemy during wartime, and after returning, also accused of raping children, and was court-martialed and dishonorably discharged, our government still allowed him to make a ton of money from movies, books, interviews, and personal appearances, and to possess numerous firearms despite being a convicted felon.

    Did he ever actually do any time for raping the seven year old girl, or any other children?

    Yes, I’m just idly speculating, and playing Devil’s advocate, and yes, I fully realize it’s an outlandish idea, BUT – – – ?

    Think Tom Clancy and/or John le Carre.

    What IF – – – ?

    • CWORet says:

      With all due respect, John, you said it best here: “…who deserted his post in a combat zone during wartime, and thereby is responsible for the combat deaths of other American soldiers.”

      That’s what matters most to me right there. All X-Files possibilities aside, that’s what gets me.

      • CWORet says:

        Not to mention he was a PFC, not normally one to be hired by the CIA for a ‘Black Ops’ kinda thing. Unless he was one of the many featured in Hall Of Fame here at TAH. Then, maybe.

    • rfisher says:

      Occam’s Razor says that BRB is a $h!thead and that the current administration is incompetent and corrupt.

  12. ChipNASA says:

    Someone posted this in the comments at Stolen Valor and I was left LMFAO…..

    (you gotta laugh unless you want to puke
    or cry)

    https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10398059_10154220039000051_6014665446806424765_n.jpg

  13. Sapper3307 says:

    Step 1 throw that deserter in a tiger cage.
    Step 2 place John McCain outside of tiger cage with a pointy stick.
    Step 3 the truth.

  14. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    Another Soldier from the traitor’s Unit was on a radio show I listened to today, and he said that IED attacks and ambushes suddenly began to get more precise and deadly after Bergdahl deserted. I hope they used Bergdahl like a goat on Thursday nights!

  15. Toasty Coastie says:

    Breaking news

    Bergdahl hometown cancels welcome
    Home town cancels welcome for US soldier freed from Afghan captivity, amid suspicions that he deserted.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      I hope stories like this continue. Another Soldier from his unit talked on a thread about how plenty of Troops from that unit have gone on, ETS’es, PCS’s,… and they’re all over the USA now, there’s NO WAY he can live anywhere in CONUS without a member of the Unit he deserted from being nearby.

      • Ex-344MP says:

        That’s called Poetic Justice Infedel, and somehow I don’t think he ever enjoyed Man Love Thursdays while he was taking his vacation.

    • streetsweeper says:

      To be rescheduled at a later date for Constitution Avenue, WA, DC. CODEPink to serve as parade marshal’s. *cackle*

    • Raja says:

      From the local news:
      “National media attention on Hailey and this event has led many across the nation to believe that the event is intended to be a military parade. There is broad interest in this topic, as evidenced by the approximate 100 correspondences per day received by the City of Hailey this week. The organizers and Hailey expect a significant increase in attendance to this event, by people who both want to support or protest against it.

      In the interest of public safety, the event will be cancelled. Hailey, a town of 8,000, does not have the infrastructure to support an event of the size this could become. “

      • Just an Old Dog says:

        A fuggin cop-out, Instead of admitting they jumped the gun and ignored the overwhelming evidence thats been out for years that Berdahl was a shit bag, they cite “crowd management”.
        How about saying “Due to deveoping circumstances we do not feel it is appropriate to hold the ceremony we had planned.”

  16. Ptolemy in Egypt says:

    The more I look around at my Army the more I feel like my snowball’s chance in hell at being promoted to the next grade is going to be a blessing in disguise.

  17. FatCircles0311 says:

    Sad day when our own commander in chief aids the enemy during a war and does it without consequence.

    I feel real bad for anyone who’s served in Afghanistan. All of your sacrifices and hard work have been for jack shit and your own commander is making sure of it and has been for years.

  18. JJAK says:

    How long till he goes back to Pakistan claiming he’s being mistreated here?

  19. royh says:

    “Sondra Andrews’ son, 2nd Lt. Darryn Andrews, is one of six soldiers killed reportedly while searching for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl”/

    “Andrews also was upset to hear the U.S. government agreed to release five prisoners from Guantanamo Bay in exchange for Bergdahl’s freedom.

    “’I bet you anything there were soldiers killed or wounded capturing those five guys,’ she said. ‘So what does that do for their sacrifice? They sacrificed for nothing, because they turned right around and let them go.’”

    http://www.militarytimes.com/article/20140602/NEWS/306020055/Gold-Star-mom-guy-worth-my-son-s-life-

    I’m very sorry to say that I hadn’t even considered the folks who were killed/injured capturing those guys they just let go. It just gets worse and worse.

  20. O-4E says:

    Meanwhile…on a peanut farm in Georgia Jimmy Carter breaths a sigh of relief that he is no longer the worst President in history.

  21. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    Here’s something I hope is true, according to this, the Army is saying that Berdahl IS facing Charges of Desertion!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2647397/Revealed-Bowe-Bergdahl-left-note-comrades-telling-leaving-start-new-life-Army-general-says-faces-desertion-charges.html

  22. royh says:

    “’They tried to tell him not to go there, that it is dangerous. But he kept going over the mountain. The villagers tried to give him water and bread, but he didn’t take it,’ said Ibrahim Manikhel, the district’s intelligence chief.

    ‘We think he probably was high after smoking hashish,’ Manikhel said. ‘Why would an American want to find the Taliban?’”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/06/04/exclusive-afghan-villagers-recall-when-bergdahl-stumbled-into-their-midst/

    This is not the first time I have heard someone say that the deserter was high on hash the night he pulled his disappearing act.

    • David says:

      Knew of a murder case back about 1980 in which one Army training washout killed an ex-Army cook over drug money…. supposedly at the trial his defense attorney played his big trump card with “Your Honor, my client was under the influence of Marijuana when he confessed!!!” – to which the judge said “So?”

  23. Ex-PH2 says:

    If people are asked to keep quiet until bergdahl sits for courts-martial, so be it. Military courts aren’t public courts.

    However, if – as someone has indicated – there is or was a suspected book deal, then whatever royalties there are should go to the families of the troops who lost their lives looking for him.

    I read somewhere that Oliver Stone is lining up to ‘tell his story’. I’d like to line Ollie Stoner up against something special. He makes me nauseous.

    • streetsweeper says:

      His former platoon, company and company commander would be lined up wanting to beat his ass in the dirt, too. 8-)

  24. ExHack says:

    I’m going to say this, and hopefully I won’t piss off too many of the other regulars. I’ll also qualify my comment by noting I have not served in the Armed Forces, as most of you have.

    That said: Bergdahl is still innocent until proven guilty in the relevant court/s of law, and is entitled to the presumption of innocence until proven otherwise. As of right now, Bergdahl is a returned PoW who served his Nation honorably, until by whatever circumstances are proven, he didn’t or couldn’t.

    I agree from everything I’ve read that the whole situation – from his original behavior pre-deployment, to his father’s tweets and statements – looks really flipping fishy. However, we don’t have all of the facts, or all of the available, first-hand, hard evidence. There may prove to be legitimate explanations for his observed behaviors and actions. The accounts we’ve heard may be disgruntled squadmates with some unknown ax to grind, or guys making up stuff for other reasons of their own. My gut says this guy “ain’t right.” But my gut doesn’t get to summarily find a man guilty of treason, desertion, etc. Same goes for everyone else here.

    My hope is that there is a full, fair investigation down to Bergdahl’s last pubic hair, that the truth is borne out, and that justice is served either way.

    Again, hope I haven’t pissed off anyone. I just think we’re being hasty in tying him a noose.

    • Poetrooper says:

      Hack, while you are right that Bergdahl’s treachery will have to play out in a court of law, I have to tell you that when the men in his squad and platoon tell me this asshole went outside the wire and over to our enemy, their word is good enough for me.

      That good men died in the search for a bad one does not improve my attitude towards this liberal asshole who sought to bring his social sensitivities to the battlefield.

      Bergdahl’s mistake was in not joining the Peace Corps rather than the Airborne.

      But the damning seal on this turd’s fate is that through and by his, and only his, actions, good men died. Their deaths are his, and only his, to explain away.

      I don’t give a rat’s ass about his pixie dust motivations. He is a young, airhead, liberal fool who took his feel-good policies to war and in doing that caused the deaths of too many damned fine paratroopers.

      Screw him and his sorry-ass family as well.

      • ExHack says:

        Poe, I think you’re right on all points. But I also think that until we KNOW, we need to take care in making our thoughts speculative vice definitive, if you know what I mean by the distinction. And I certainly didn’t mean to cast any disparagement on the men who served with him. But I think we need to evaluate those “eyewitness” accounts carefully, too, and be sure they came from those who were actually there. We’ve seen so many individuals (not gonna call them “men” – they seem to be some other species) on TAH who make up stories out of whole cloth for their own psychological reasons. It’s POSSIBLE that some of the accounts we’ve heard about Bergdahl’s actions may not be truthful, or from those who actually served with him at various points. The stuff I’ve read (like that series of tweets) sounds more legit than Bergdahl’s father’s various statements, and you would be in a better position than me to judge what’s legit or not, but it’s possible those accounts aren’t accurate.

        Again, I would just hope we remember he’s innocent until proven guilty. If he turns out to be the $h!tbag he appears to be from nearly every angle, I hope he shares a death row cell with Nidal Hasan for treason and the manslaughter of the men who died looking for him.

        • Poetrooper says:

          As one who’s been there, I’ll wager that most of his platoon mates, weighing the deaths this worm caused, would have no compunction to his summary execution, if for no other reason than to deny the liberals the opportunity to make a hero of this sorry asshole.

        • Jabatam says:

          Hack, I don’t know how to stress this enough. Soldiers would not say this about another Soldier unless it was true. It’s just not done that way. This isn’t anything that can really be passed on from a Soldier/Veteran to a civilian. You’d only know it to be true if you had served. If there were some Soldier that was saying this (maybe because of a personal beef) and it wasn’t true, there’d be a huge outcry from the rest of the Soldiers in his unit condemning the liar. That hasn’t happened. That tells me it is very likely true

          • ExHack says:

            I haven’t walked in your shoes, but this makes lots of sense.

            Again, I have a strong gut feeling about this situation and this guy. I also believe due process must be followed. And I hope and pray it shall be, without undue command influence to the contrary.

    • Gina says:

      I’ve never served either and that pisses me off. Bergdahl is not and never has been a POW. That unfortunate designation is for those who were captured on the battlefield, not those who deserted their post and their brothers in arms. And he has NOT served honorably. That word and his name do not belong in the same sentence. I’ll tell you who DID serve honorably – the men who looked for him in spite of the fact he is a deserter – the men who DIED looking for him in spite of the fact he is a deserter. THEY have honor, he does NOT.

    • Mustang1LT says:

      You haven’t pissed me off. While you are right regarding his Constitutional rights, this forum is the court of public opinion. There is a much lower burden of proof. Remember, there is a difference between what you know and what you can prove. I would have to say that his fellow soldiers have first, last, and only say in our forum here. Even if he was to be court martialed and found “Not Guilty” (notice I didn’t say innocent), it would not change most soldiers’ opinions of this shitbag.

      • Poetrooper says:

        Gina and Mustang 1LT, life and rules change in a combat zone. It is a world that most civilians would be shocked to acknowledge as real. And that’s the rub: it is real but only those who go there and engage will ever know how easily the rules of normal civilization are suspended when the shooting starts.

        In summation: it a’int pretty or for the weak of heart.

        But real? It’s very, very real, as in if you’re in the wrong place at the wrong time…

        • O-4E says:

          You nailed it brother

          One thing all of us do (well 99% of us) in uniform do is strive every second of every day is to not let our comrades down. Above all else THEIR opinion matters. Which is so foreign in today’s “me, me, me” culture.

          It drives us to be better men then we would ever be on our own.

          The damnation of this kid (Berghdahl) by his fellows, even bu those who had called him friend, is all the evidence I need.

          And until you have ever been a CNO/CAO and had to tell a family their son has been killed….I respectfully ask anyone who disagrees with our pre-judgement of ol’ Bowe to respect our collective outrage.

          Goddamn this entire situation. May God have mercy on Berghdahl and the families of those killed spent trying to find him.

          • O-4E says:

            @Ex Hack

            Brother. You have to understand our culture. It is vicious in a lot of ways.

            “Hero to zero”.

            We don’t wait on jury trials or investigations. We convict in the court of public opinion almost immediately for trivial shit civilians would laugh off.

            Imagine a guy that has served almost 26 years and ONCE was 0.5% over in allowed body fat. ONCE (and had been laid up because of a surgery for 6 months)

            That guy went from being a stud…to a fat, overweight shitbag in the time it took to step on and off a scale. Despite making weight and tape in 2 weeks.

            Such is the world we serve in.

            • ExHack says:

              O-4E: I get it, and I respect your collective outrage. And as I said above, I strongly suspect your outrage is correctly placed. I’m not judging anyone here. I haven’t walked in your boots.

              Your example reminds me of one of my bosses. Good guy. Air Force Reserve E-7. Model of a senior noncommissioned officer … in MY workplace; we never saw what he was like in the AF. Stickler and hardass, but generally means well. He’s the only manager we know won’t lie to us because his integrity is off the charts. Bad knees, smokes. Didn’t make the time requirement for the run on his last annual PT test. Got shown the door. He’s hoping to get back in eventually to make it to retirement.

    • 3/17 Air Cav says:

      ExHack…….something I think your not understanding about being in a squad int the infantry. You are responsible to the other nine, ten guys in your squad. Even more so Ina combat zone. Being in harms way is not fun. Being a member of a squad, you get to know your fellow squad members in finite detail.

      When I read some of the comments made by members of his squad, there is no question in my mind that the guy was a under achieving shitstain.

      He decided to walk away, leaving his squad and platoon in the lurch.

      Should he profit from this? Absolutely not. Should he spend some time in jail? Absolutely.

      As for you pissing anyone off? Maybe a little

      • ExHack says:

        I understand it, 3/17. I haven’t lived it, as I’m estimating you have.

        Didn’t mean to piss you off, sir.

        If the consensus proves correct … I’d say he deserves an old fashioned hanging, but Bradley/Chelsea Manning had that coming, too.

      • ExHack says:

        And if I can add: I read somewhere tonight that the dude with the tweet stream purporting to have the goods on Bergdahl, is one former Specialist Cody Full, who (at least according to the media) was in fact in his unit with him. Not, apparently, an attention getting poser.

        One of my concerns was that some of the information out there might have been BS from people who’d never even served with him – a sort of icky variation on SV. That is quickly proving to be an unfounded concern.

    • JJAK says:

      Well, if they weren’t speaking out there wouldn’t be a push to conduct the formal proceedings. If we’re lucky, we’ll probably see the soldiers from his unit convict him in both the court of law and public opinion.

  25. Eric says:

    I think he was more than happy to play whatever they wanted him to play, victim, prisoner, etc. For their own propaganda purposes.

    At any time, if it had suited their purposes more so, they would’ve cut his head off on Al Jazeera.

    He and his father both are stupid and foolhardy if they really think the Taliban or any of those entities is anything but their enemy who will use them to whatever purpose they can.

    • ExHack says:

      True that last para, Eric. But remember, new Darwin nominees come worming out of the woodwork every day. Many of them put on fakery finery and end up with a special guest starring role on TAH.

  26. Ex-PH2 says:

    Looks like the homecoming part has been cancelled.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/bowe-bergdahl-released/bowe-bergdahls-hometown-cancels-welcome-home-bowe-rally-n122841?gt1=43001

    I’m not going to judge Bergdahl one way or the other. That is not my job, as I am no longer in the military. If I were still in the service, I might have a different opinion. However, his acts appear on the surface to be intentional and premeditated, based on information that is turning up. So let’s just see where this goes.

  27. john says:

    of voirse America should be proud that some have chosen to disobey their orders to talk about this. Just as Snowden should be allowed to talk about things he promised not to divulge
    5000 deserted in the beginning of Iraq qae

  28. bluliner10 says:

    No, he is not a PoW, the Haqqani network is nothing more than a murderous narcotics gang. At best he was a captive or hostage. He deserted. 30 eyewitness statements from the 30 Americans on the tiny Patrol Base they were manning, a PB that is smaller than the .6 acre my house sits on. He walked away from his platoon, he did not serve honorably. The intel from radio intercepts, interviews with locals, and tactical questioning of captured Taliban confirm that Bergdahl deserted and sought out the Taliban.
    As to the other accusations of treason and collaboration with the enemy, I will allow Bergdahl to counter those claims.
    The Uniformed Code of Military Justice is simple and efficient, you did or did not. General Courts-Martials allow for the accused to challenge, but the reality is he left his appointed place of duty. Unless he was dragged of the PB in a gunney sack carried by 4 Taliban, he left the PB without authority end of story.
    So no, there was no honor displayed nor deserved, he was never listed as a PoW by the Army, he was administratively promoted while in an unauthorized absence, so his rank is wothless, as is he.

    • Ex-344MP says:

      I’m still going with the desertion line thinking he might be helping along with Haqqani using him as a pawn.

      I said it before, based on my experience in Iraq and as a Targeting NCO for our Battallion, these groups just do not leave people alive unless it suits their purposes.

      That said, I think he needs to be CM’ed, then drawn and quartered with his body parts sent back to Haqqani.

  29. Just an Old Dog says:

    “Don’t judge him until you know the evidence… you werent there,,,”

    I keep hearing this shit over and over…. The stupid ones are the people who actually think people being pissed off at the sack of hit are really going to have a damn thing to do with his punishment.
    I don’t like the son of a bitch. Every thing points to him being at best a special little snowflake that said fuck it and waltzed off to the great beyond.
    But I dont have some special power to lock his ass up or shoot him.
    If I was to sit on a Jury I am sure I would listen to all sides and come to a verdict I thought was correct.

    • Eric says:

      And some state department Cunt is proclaiming the guys who were in his platoon downrange don’t know more than she does. (“Marie Harf”)

      And why again is the state department saying anything about this? Seems like everytime there’s a scandal, State has people talking about it, even if its in the US and has nothing to do with foreign relations, policy, etc. This is a DoD matter, where’s the DoD spokesman?

      • ExHack says:

        The State Department needs to stick to fighting Putin by carpet bombing him with Tweets (uber-bimbo Jen Psaki and her flipping Promise of Hashtag).

  30. 3/17Air Cav says:

    I just read a comment by the Obama admin. Now a spokesman is saying that Bergdahl’s fellow squad members are “Swift boating” him. As in John Kerry.

    Obama is in the middle of a firestorm, now I guess Bergdahl’s fellow squad members are lying. This admin. Has no shame!

    I’m getting more pissed off by the minute!

    • streetsweeper says:

      Heard the same thing on nightly news, too. My post over at FB was, “They need to learn the difference between the US Navy and US Army”. Since I was Army, I’d wager it’d be more like a barracks party, with socks and soap bars included. Maybe a flight of stairs too…

    • H1 says:

      “Swiftboating” means getting the truth out.
      Was a tad painful for Kerry. The administration really doesn’t want to go down that road.

      • streetsweeper says:

        Yes sir, it does. FYI; there are a number of us here that lent a helping hand to the SwiftVets during 2004, with Operation: Streetcorner, ect.

  31. streetsweeper says:

    Other than the above remark, I’m still for waiting on CID/MI and Big Army to complete their investigation (15-6). And since he hasn’t been reported as wheels down here, I’d rather he remain secured in Germany and his platton and squad members given the chance to air their side of it in a military court of law, on a US base in Germany.

    Reason being, John f’ng sKerry and his merry band of war crime liars of which only one incident was under active investigation by CID. Out forty three other cases, each liar couldn’t or wouldn’t provide CID with details other than, “Oh, I heard from so and so”…

  32. H1 says:

    Was listening to the Howie Carr show and one theory postulated was he and his dad cooked up a book idea and that is why he went walkabout.
    Certainly meets the dumb ass private criteria.

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