Times of Israel: Kerry betrayed Israel

| July 28, 2014 | 43 Comments

John Kerry tried to cram a really bad deal for Israel down their collective throat the other day, but all he really did was unite the various political factions who now think that they are not only fighting a terrorist neighbor, but also their former ally against terrorism. The Times of Israel calls it “The Betrayal“;

It seemed inconceivable that the secretary’s initiative would specify the need to address Hamas’s demands for a lifting of the siege of Gaza, as though Hamas were a legitimate injured party acting in the interests of the people of Gaza — rather than the terror group that violently seized control of the Strip in 2007, diverted Gaza’s resources to its war effort against Israel, and could be relied upon to exploit any lifting of the “siege” in order to import yet more devastating weaponry with which to kill Israelis.

Israel and the US are meant to be allies; the US is meant to be committed to the protection of Israel in this most ruthless of neighborhoods; together, the US and Israel are meant to be trying to marginalize the murderous Islamic extremism that threatens the free world. Yet here was the top US diplomat appearing to accommodate a vicious terrorist organization bent on Israel’s destruction, with a formula that would leave Hamas better equipped to achieve that goal.

I guess being the actual secretary of state is more difficult than negotiating as a private citizen as Kerry did in Paris with the North Vietnamese in 1970. But, of course, Kerry’s proposed treaty included all of the Code Pink issues. Meanwhile, Hamas’ leader in gaza says that it’s not possible for Hamas to exist alongside Israel, according to AFP;

“We are not fanatics, we are not fundamentalists. We are not actually fighting the Jews because they are Jews per se. We do not fight any other races. We fight the occupiers,” he said.

“I’m ready to coexist with the Jews, with the Christians and the Arabs and non-Arabs,” he said. “However, I do not coexist with the occupiers.”

The UN calls for a ceasefire in Gaza, apparently unaware that Hamas hasn’t ceased fire since this began. The president also called for an “immediate ceasefire” even though each attempt at a ceasefire has failed because of one side. In fact, this whole episode began while the two sides were under a 2012 ceasefire.

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  1. Still serving(currently in Afghanistan) says:

    Here’s what I have to say to the Hamas’ leader –
    Bullshit!

  2. SJ says:

    Looks like Teresa beat the crap out of him.

  3. rb325th says:

    Who is really surprised by this at all? Obama himself has been no real friend of Israel, and has barely tolerated them because to do otherwise would have been the end of him politically. Elections are over for him now, so now he can just continue to be an ass.

    The Israelis are so in the right on this, there can be no doubt. Hamas has no legitimacy at all, and for Lurch to be giving it to them shows just how either naive, or far to the left this administration really is.
    Prior to 2007 the Palestinian Authority controlled all of the Palestinian territories. Hamas in a violent takeover rested control of the Gaza Strip from them and began their war on Israel from behind the human shields of gaza.
    Kerry is an absolute ass, just like his boss.

  4. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    The editorial includes this statement about Kerry: “Leaked comments from unnamed senior government sources to Army Radio, Channel 2 and other Hebrew outlets have described the secretary as amateurish, incompetent, incapable of understanding the material he is dealing with — in short, a blithering fool.” Leaked comments? Hell, that’s common knowledge. It’s just that Israel is finally taking the gloves off. It’s about time.

    • Richard says:

      2/17 – last spring, my friends in Israel liked Mr. Kerry. He had been to the region a lot and they liked what he said and did.

      I suspect that he had been visiting Mr. Abbas and not Mr. Meshaal and those attitudes were based on his work with Mr. Abbas and Fatah, not with Hamas.

      When I heard those comments, I was quite surprised. Mr. Kerry’s efforts have always seemed amateurish to me.

      I think a couple of things have changed. Compared to Mr. Abbas, Mr. Meshaal is a horse of a different stripe (… Abbas versus Zebra, okay its bad …) Mr. Kerry works for Mr. Obama who is a politician on the world scene. The world has bought the Hamas propaganda line, “Gazan’s are dying from Israeli airstrikes! Israeli’s occupy our land!” and Mr. Obama’s influence in his base is helped by conforming to the world view of Hamas and the US (see “immigration, illegal” soon to be “allowed by the administration while opposed and not funded by Congress”).

      In my opinion this is a load of recent and ripe blueish Shiite. Hamas started this kerfuffle and they keep it going. I was on a conference call to Israel last week and I heard a Hamas rocket detonation on the phone. In my opinion, Israel has the right to defend herself and the obligation to protect her citizens – if Hamas shoots, Israel can and should shoot back. I think that Mr. Obama suggested or just flat out told Mr. Kerry what deal to propose thinking that looking good on the international scene helps him and his friends domestically and those belligerent Israeli’s can just go and pound sand. And not taking Mr. Kerry’s deal makes the Israelis look belligerent. I say, male bovine excrement of the blueish, runny, and very smelly variety.

      Did anyone else notice that the DOD endorsed the US investment in Iron Dome to the tune of $200+ million? There was a recent move in Congress to raise the line item to about $600 million. There were strings — much of the manufacturing had to be done here so the money stays here but the goods go there where we get some real-world testing.

      I also notice that the missiles targeted by Iron Dome are not sophisticated. Before that system would have significant value for the US (with respect to North Korea, for example), it would have to deal with decoys, a lot more range (at least hundreds of miles), speed (supersonic or hypersonic), multiple warheads and course changes. But as it is right now the system computes launch point and predicted detonation point, trajectory, and it locks on and vectors multiple interceptor missiles to the target. I think, but I am not certain, that the interceptor missiles do their own terminal aiming. The system works and in my opinion that is a pretty damn good start – worth our investment.

  5. Thunderstixx says:

    This entire administration has totally jumped the shark, they are so far into their own navel contemplation they have no idea there is a real world out there anymore.
    Their world exists in their minds where all these stupid ideas actually work and people actually give a shit about what they think…
    I just hope that Israel knows that most of us Americans are still on their side.
    Kerry basically wanted to give Hamas Carte’ Blanche to fire as many rockets as they want into Israel.
    Netanyahu is leading a real war that Israel did not want but was forced into.
    The boobery and lack of intelligence of Atomic Johann Kerry is out there for the world to see and laugh at….
    And they are…

  6. Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

    Here’s a thought, how about reading the charter of Hamas to determine its’ goals and objectives and FOUNDING beliefs with respect to Israel.

    I like this little gem:

    Peaceful Solutions [Peace] Initiatives and International Conferences

    Article Thirteen

    [Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the

    international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all

    contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement.

    There is no solution to the Palestinian problem except by Jihad.

    The initiatives, proposals and International Conferences are but a waste

    of time(27), an exercise in futility. The Palestinian people are too noble

    to have their future, their right and their destiny submitted to a vain

    game. As the Hadith has it:

    Perhaps some point in the future ( I know I keep writing this like some fool wishing on a star) that we in the west will actually understand what the Israelis already know, that it is indeed wise to believe your enemies when they tell you they want you dead.

    We in the west believe those kinds of statements to be some sort of political hyperbole, in fact they are statements of truth and belief by those would see us dead.

    We should be prepared to deal with muslim jihadists using the same courtesies they would afford us, which are none except misery and death.

    It is time to unleash the whirlwind and reap death and destruction in our wake, the likes of which will keep the middle easterners awake at night hoping they and their children are not the next objects of our attention.

    Oderint dum metuant

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      Uh, VOV, I live in the real world, as you do. I KNOW they want us dead.

    • OldSoldier54 says:

      “It is time to unleash the whirlwind and reap death and destruction in our wake, the likes of which will keep the middle easterners awake at night hoping they and their children are not the next objects of our attention.”

      I’m in. Time to do what Pershing did in the Philippines, only more so, IMO.

  7. The Other Whitey says:

    Betrayed by Kerry? Yeah, pretty much. If it makes them feel any better, he’s betrayed America too. And yet we still let the bastard hold high office.

    As far as Hamas coexisting with anybody, their mouthpiece’s claims of not hating Jews are drowned out by the rest of them screaming “Death to Jews” and crap like that nonstop.

    • Climb to Glory says:

      Exactly.

      “We are not fanatics, we are not fundamentalists. We are not actually fighting the Jews because they are Jews per se. We do not fight any other races. We fight the occupiers,” he said.

      “I’m ready to coexist with the Jews, with the Christians and the Arabs and non-Arabs,” he said. “However, I do not coexist with the occupiers.”

      What? Yeah, they sound like reasonable people. John Kerry deserves a beating every day for the rest of his life. Fucking commie turd.

  8. OWB says:

    Welcome to the club, Israel. sKerry has been betraying the United States for the past 50 years. He is a traitor to civilized people around the world.

    At this point, it just doesn’t seem to matter. Well, except to some of us who remember.

  9. Combat Historian says:

    Hey, Lurch! Is this now “seared, seared” into your memory as well ?

  10. Medic09 says:

    POTUS and SoS should talk to this guy:

  11. James in Gulf Breeze says:

    Obama’s regime’s actions don’t make any sense unless he really is siding with the muslims on this one…

  12. GruntSgt says:

    Kerrys only concern, like other Pussies on the Potomac is his precious “legacy” which will always be an ass sucking traitor who is a legend in his own mind. He should go back to the corral where maybe he can negotiate the division of hay

  13. MAJMike says:

    Guess Lurch’s magic boonie hat finally talked to him.

  14. MGySgtRet. says:

    My concern is not for Israel. The IDF will handle it’s business like they always do.

    My concern is how incompetent our administration has been shown to be AGAIN. We have a group of rank amateurs running our foreign policy. They are oblivious to the way the world really works. They all marvel at their own brilliance. Meanwhile the world burns to the ground and they are so busy patting each other on the back and telling John Kerry that he is a fucking genius, that they have failed to recognize that their trousers are on fire.

    We are fucked. Soon our military will be neutered to the point of inaction, the bad guys are learning to call our bluff and get away with it and we treat our friends as enemies….we are just fucked.

  15. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    So, I saw a headline announcing that The Emperor would be at a Young African Leaders Conference today. Thought I, “What the hell is that and what’s his business with it?” Turns out it is HIS initiative, his baby! From the US Department of State:

    “With the participation of the President and First Lady in the 2010 and 2011 Young African Leaders Forums, as well as outreach to youth from other cabinet-level officials like [former] Secretary Clinton and Administrator Shah, U.S. Government officials at the highest levels are promoting the importance of youth engagement globally, and in Africa specifically.” Great. Just great.

  16. Hussar says:

    I fail to see how we are supposedly fucked in this case. Yes, Kerry is an idiot, but since when is it our job to defend Israel? That is THEIR job. Why is it our job to sort Ukraine out?

    It isn’t Neither is. Especially in the case of Israel, who is NOT our friend. Not even remotely.

    • Jonn Lilyea says:

      But Hamas is our friend, right? Which group would kill all Americans if given the chance?

      • Hussar says:

        And exactly where did I state that Hamas was our friend? Exactly?

        Or you can stop at the lame attempt at a strawman, actually read (then comprehend) my posts, and you’ll see that I said from the very beginning that we should not be supporting either side.

        Herp. Derp.

        Now that is out of the way, I’m curious as to your position on our “ally” selling advanced military technology that we give them, to our enemies.

        Or will it take a few dead US airmen or sailors off the Spratly Islands for you to finally admit ya dun goofed?

        • Jonn Lilyea says:

          Look, junior, you don’t want us to help the Jews, I get that, but do you understand that not helping the Jews helps Hamas? Are you really that fucking stupid? Oh, sorry, I forgot who I was talking to for a moment. Of course you’re that fucking stupid.

          Derp your-fucking-self.

    • Pinto Nag says:

      We helped to create the state of Israel. They don’t have to be our friend. They OWE us, and they know it.

    • Richard says:

      Why do you think that Israel is not a friend of the US?

      It is not my JOB to defend Germany if she is invaded by Russia but we have treaties and shared interests and the US still has significant facilities in Germany. Same with Italy and a lot of other places.

      You may have noticed that the US spent a fair amount of treasure to spy on Germany. I’m pretty sure that the Germans don’t like it and I am equally sure that they spend treasure to spy on us. Same with the French, Brits, Russians, Chinese, Japanese, and lots of others. I personally think that Pollard should rot in jail. I get angry with my friends sometimes but they are still friends. Or are you thinking of the USS Liberty, the US spy ship that Israel attacked in the 1967 war?

      • Hussar says:

        You’re talking about spying, while I’m talking about Israel actively selling military hardware we either give them, or out and out pay for them to have, to the Chinese.

        Which means Iran and North Korea have that same technology.

        • streetsweeper says:

          You need to boneup er….go research the chicom’s that were allowed into the US research labs and weapons development facilites then strolled out the door with sufficient classified info pertaining to said systems.

          And to quote Jonn: “Derp your-fucking-self”

  17. Ex-PH2 says:

    There is nothing quite like operating in the mindset of the walking dead, is there?

    Is it just me, or does Kerry look more and more like his entire facial structure has been punched in?

  18. FatCircles0311 says:

    Sheltered Westerns forget that it’s not about Israel, it’s about western civilization and domination through Islam. If Israel were to be sacrificed tomorrow to these blood thirsty enemies of civilization they wouldn’t miss a step going forward towards us.

    That is why the United States supports Israel.

    I’d like the scum of civilization to be fought there than in my backyard. I don’t have faith in our system to throw down effectively like Israelis do if those scumbags were doing what they do there over here.

    Enemy of Israel? Enemy of civilization.

    • 2/17 Air Cav says:

      The affinity many Americans feel for Israel stems derives, at least in part, from the American character trait of rooting for the underdog and the little guy. Now, on all sorts of levels, one can argue well that Israel is neither but, that take aside, I believe that many Americans are quite sympathetic to Israel and that our education as a people of the true evil that is Islam has only increased our sympathy many times over.

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