David Hagerman, phony Vietnam Vet

| September 27, 2014

David Hagerman

So Big John and some of his friends bumped into this guy David Hagerman who is trying to raise money for some land to serve as a monument for his Vietnam Vets Memorial and Celebration Party in Bedford, Virginia. He calls himself Captain Dave and as you can see in the photo, he claims he’s an infantryman. The folks I’ve talked to say there’s a lot of other BS he speaks, but I’m not willing to engage in that kind of stuff – we just need photographic proof. He’s not a captain and he wasn’t a first sergeant either;

David Hagerman FOIA

David Hagerman Assignments

David Hagerman ID photo

David Hagerman VetFriends

In that VetFriends picture, he’s trying to make us believe that he’s one of those guys in that picture above, obviously in Vietnam with the jungle fatigues and sand bags – so show me which is him, please.

He did serve from 1969 to 1972, but he was one of those medical people who specialized in eyes, ears, noses and throats and got out of the Army as a Specialist Five. He spent the Vietnam War years in Germany at the hospital in Franfurt.

I have a friend who served in Germany during the same period and he never tried to give anyone the impression that he was in Vietnam – he was a draftee, too. My point is that not everyone who was in the Army during Vietnam went to Vietnam, through no fault of their own. Everyone has their job to do, and there’s no shame in that. But there is shame in pretending to be something you’re not.

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  1. SJ says:

    Well he does have that steely killer look. And he’s not wearing any medals. But claiming CPT when he’s wearing a blouse with First Shirt rank?

    • Richard says:

      I live in the area. A co 1-116th is in Bedford and BN HQs is up the road 20 minutes in Lynchburg. Perhaps I could drop by and see this guy……..or at least warn BN that this douche is a phoney more than likely trying to raise money to line his pockets.

      SSG Mack

  2. streetsweeper says:

    Poor eyesight, maybe? Lack of….

  3. Doc Savage says:

    *sigh*…..and the day started out so nice…

  4. Ex-PH2 says:

    The hits just keep on coming, don’t they?

  5. Sparks says:

    Maybe he meant to raise money for a memorial to Fort Dix instead of his beloved Vietnam? 😀 Clown looks like he grabbed that blouse right of the rack at the surplus store.

  6. 19D1OR4 - Smitty says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but in that era, weren’t they still wearing the tan shirt with the green Class A? Also, seeing as he did serve for awhile, you would think he had been introduced to the neck tie or a dry cleaners.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      You’re right, and like Sparks said, he looks like he just grabbed that off the rack at a thrift store!

    • Hondo says:

      19D10R4 – Smitty: correct. The tan shirt was authorized for wear until 1983 – I believe 30 September 1983 was the sunset date for both the Class A tan shirt and for “perma-presss khakis” (damn, I loved that uniform). The Class A green shirt began phasing in sometime prior to then.

  7. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    These damn things are popping up all over the place like toadstools on cow patties in a pasture! Yes, cow manure is very useful as a fertilizer, but these critters do give us some entertainment on our verbal dart boards, don’t they? This critter looks like he took grimacing and staring lessons from “Snake Eyes” Jordan in his Momma’s basement!!

  8. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    This is an odd one. I agree that the suggestion is that he is a VN Vet but, on his website, he claims no such thing. In fact, he claims to be an “old Eagle Scout.” The photo, too, is an oddity. He certainly knows how to dress for his era and he didn’t even try. And that backdrop is strange. In fact, the only thing I see that is outright false is that “Captain” business. I suspect we may be hearing from him sooner than later.

  9. Marine_7002 says:

    Talk about a self-centered, narcisstic sonovabitch. I wasted 1 minute and 4 seconds of their life watching that video.

    Oh, and this at the bottom of the web page:

    For you guys who want to write checks, send them to me at:

    David Hagerman

    1104 Centennial Rd,

    Bedford, VA. 24523

    Yeah, right. Just write that check, made out to him, and send it on faith that it’ll get spent on his phony cause.

    NFW.

  10. Enigma4you says:

    Ok some of you Army types help me out,

    I know that a spec 4 and a corporal are not the same thing, one is a NCO the other is not while both are E-4s , I have seen a spec 4 referred to as a full bird private.

    What the hell is a spec 5? I guessing an E-5 that is not an NCO? are they limited to medical and other non leadership type roles? What happens when they make E-6? Still not an NCO or are they all of the sudden a NCO with a big head and no leadership ?

    • 19D1OR4 - Smitty says:

      Starting in WW2, the Army had technician ranks. Those evolved into the Specialist ranks rangeing from E-4 SP4 to E-9 SP9. They were not NCOs but were technical specialists. In the early 1980s all but SP4 went away. Today its just called Specialist. And yes originally they were mainly for non-combat technic specialties.

      • Hondo says:

        Enigma4You: in broad outline, Smitty is correct above. However, there are a few additional quirks and details concerning the Specialist ranks that make it a bit more convoluted than that.

        The Wikipedia article on Specialist (rank) has those additional details. While Wikipedia as a source is often suspect, this particular article seems to have been written by someone knowledgeable who did his or her homework.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specialist_%28rank%29

        Nowadays, it’s pretty simple: Specialist (SPC) is a non-leadership, non-NCO E4, and Corporal (CPL) is an E4 who is both an NCO and has leadership responsibilities.

        According to the article, seems as if you Navy types had Specialists as well, albeit briefly, during and shortly after World War II. I didn’t know that before reviewing the article linked above earlier this evening.

    • CLAW131 says:

      E4Y, I spent six years as a Spec5 in the duty MOS of Automotive Repair Parts Clerk. I worked in the motor pool and was the guy that handed out oil filters and spark plugs. When I was promoted to E-6,I put on Staff Sergeant stripes. My older brother as an E-6,and a Medical Aidman/Clinical Specialist had to maintain two sets of uniforms. One set with Spec6 stripes and the other with SSG stripes depending on what type of a medical unit he was assigned to at the time. If he worked out of a hospital/clinic,he wore SP6. But if he was in a Battlefield Clearing Company or running a Battalion Aid Station,he wore SSG stripes. So he was one or the other by duty position,but was always just Doc to the troops.

      • Hondo says:

        Yep. Medical and the other more “technical” career fields were big users of the Specialist ranks before they were largely discontinued in the late 1970s/mid 1980s. Had a number of acquaintances in those career fields growing up and early in my career, and can remember when SP7 (1978) and SP5/SP6 (1985) “bit the dust” and were converted to “hard stripes”.

        I’ve often wondered if doing that “across the board” was a mistake. I’m still not positive it wasn’t. While I think we were over-using the Specialist ranks at E5/6/7 “back in the day”, for some MOSs it seemed to make good sense. Others, not so much.

  11. Hayabusa says:

    C’mon, being an ear, nose and throat specialist in Germany is just like being a combat infantryman in Vietnam, right? Right?

  12. What badge is he wearing on the left breast pocket of that jacket?

    He’s wearing the blue Infantry Branch Cord.

    To earn that, you must complete Infantry training, be awarded an Infantry MOS, and have served, or be currently serving, in an Infantry unit (except on special occasions for veterans and/or retirees, such as I).

    Wearing a blue Infantry Branch Cord is also authorized for those who have been awarded the Combat Infantry Badge or the peacetime Expert Infantry Badge (which is actually MUCH more difficult to earn!).

    I earned the right to wear my blue Infantry Branch Cord at Fort Hood, Texas in 1975, by successfully completing an on the job training course as a Cavalry Scout (i.e., MOS 11D20), while serving in the 2d Battalion, 12th Cavalry Regiment (Mechanized Infantry), 1st Cavalry Division.

    I noticed that his Advanced Individual Training as an Eye, Ear, Nose, and Throat Medical Specialist (MOS 91U20) at Fort Sam Houston, Texas was a couple of months shorter than my own Advanced Individual Training as a Field Radio Relay and Carrier Equipment Repairman (MOS 31L20).

    Of course, due to my big mouth, quick temper, and PERMANENT immaturity, it took several YEARS before I finally reached the rank of Specialist Five (E-5), which when I switched from the Signal Corps to the Cavalry, became a Sergeant (E-5), until I opened my big mouth and got busted down to Corporal (E-4).

    When I went into the Utah National Guard, they weren’t authorized Corporals, so once again, I became a Specialist Four (E-4).

    But, when I joined the Utah State Guard (i.e., your TRUE “State Militia”), they immediately made me a Staff Sergeant (E-6), and later a First Sergeant (E-8), which was my final rank.

    Although it was the State Militia and not the United States Army, I was pleasantly surprised to see my Military Police Advanced NCO Course (MOS 95B/D) diploma from the Army Institute for Professional Development inscribed with, “FIRST SERGEANT JOHN R MALLERNEE”.

    Since it was only the State Militia, I didn’t really think it meant anything, until a friend of mine, a retired Sergeant First Class, saw my framed diploma on the wall, and expressed great surprise that I’d achieved higher rank than he had.

    But, I explained to him that it was only State Militia rank, and not regular United States Army.

    But, ever since, I’ve wondered what rank they’ll put on my tombstone?

    • 19D1OR4 - Smitty says:

      That may have been true in ’75, I wouldn’t know as I was -9 then, but to wear the blue cord nowadays you HAVE to have an 11 series primary MOS.

      • At that time, the Cavalry Scout (MOS 11D20) WAS an 11 series MOS.

        However, the Army has changed that MOS code to something else, which is no longer an 11 series.

        • Things change.

          The last time I looked, the Mechanized Infantry unit that I was trained in has now become an Armored unit, with a TO&E of M-1 “Abrams” tanks.

        • 19D1OR4 - Smitty says:

          If I gave you the impression that I was saying you were wrong, that was not my intent.

          Cavalry Scout is 19D now. Which is what I have been since 2008.

          What mech unit were you in that is tanks now? I’m curious.

          • 2/12th Cavalry, 1st Cavalry Division

          • When I was in, Cavalry Scouts got their spurs just because they were assigned as Cavalry Scouts.

            But now, Cavalry Scouts must EARN the right to wear those spurs by successfully completing a “Spur Ride”.

            Our uniform was olive drab fatigues with black jump boots, Prince of Wales spurs, black leather garrison belt with oval brass “US” buckle, and black beret.

          • We operated in teams of two (02) gun jeeps (just like in, “THE RAT PATROL”, television series, each jeep having a pedestal mounted M-60 machine gun.

            Each jeep had three (03) men, i.e., a driver, an observer, and a gunner.

            Later, they switched us to using an M-113 Armored Personnel Carrier armed with a TOW missile, two M-60 machine guns, and a Browning M-2 .50 caliber machine gun.

            We also trained and operated as conventional dismounted Infantry soldiers.

            • Thunderstixx says:

              I was attached to HQ 2/47 Infantry in 1976-77. I was part of the Scout platoon but fortunately for me I went to Huckleberry Creek Mountain Training camp as an instructor.
              I taught Skiing in the winter and mountaineering in the summer to the Ft. Lewis troops as they rotated through.
              We had several Rangers go through the course and we taught Marines there too.
              Truly that was the best job in the entire US Army !!!
              I still have my cord and wear it on my biker jacket. Some recognize it instantly and let me know.
              The unit 2/47’th was the same unit Forrest and Bubba were assigned to when they went to Vietnam., seriously, I just about crapped when I saw it.
              The actual unit did serve in Vietnam so I am glad that I saw that when I watch Forrest in one of the million times it has been shown.

            • AW2 to CPT says:

              When I was the Scout Platoon Leader in an M-60A3 batallion in the ARNG in 88-89 I had 3 M-113s and 3 M-901 ITVs (Improved Tow Vehicles) which were essentially an M-113 with a twin TOW turret.

  13. At that web site, where he’s soliciting financial donations, it appears that the guy in the photograph might NOT be DAVID HOWARD HAGERMAN, i.e., “CAPTAIN DAVE”, but instead it’s, “DANIEL A. TOMS, U.S. ARMY RETIRED FIRST SERGEANT”.

    Also, they don’t know the difference between the incorrectly used, “WHO’S”, which is a contraction of, “WHO IS”, and, “WHOSE”, which would be the correct possessive personal pronoun.

    Hey, when you’re doing legal stuff and PUBLICLY soliciting, you’d better know how to spell correctly, and how to properly use English grammar.

    Otherwise, folks like me IMMEDIATELY suspect a criminal fraud, i.e., as in the e-mails from Nigeria, or wherever.

  14. MCPO NYC USN Ret. says:

    Excusa me boss man, I’ams not very goods at Army things, but I’ams a pretty damn sure that there CAPT Dave shouldn’t be awearin’ them there SGT stripes!

    • That was my point.

      I suspect that is NOT a photograph of “Captain Dave”, but instead, a photograph of, “Daniel A. Toms, US Army First Sergeant Retired”, which, by the way, is the INCORRECT way to designate a military retiree.

      The CORRECT form is “First Sergeant Daniel A. Toms, United States Army (Retired)”.

      On the other hand, since we’re looking at fraudulent claims and (criminal?) solicitation, maybe “DAVID HOWARD HAGERMAN” is ALSO “DANIEL A. TOMS”?

      • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

        Or like this, ” James A. Tanner, First Sergeant, US Army (Ret.)” which when abbreviated would be “James A. Tanner, 1SG, USA (Ret.)”, I’ve seen both this and what you posted.

  15. Guard Bum says:

    Am I missing something? It looks like this fuzznuts is trying to do a kickstarter type campaign to have an adventure and then make a movie about it. If he cant even button the bottom button on his uniform while doing a portrait to solicit funding I’m thinking the biggest adventure that will come out of it will be getting his shoes on the right feet.

    It’s getting depressing seeing all of this stuff and I have become a total cynic when I see any old guy wearing any type of uniform item, shirt, ball cap, or even belonging to a VSO. When I retired I thought I would join the local VFW and spend part of my golden years having a few drinks down at the hall but lately every time I run into these guys and they open their mouth all I smell is bullshit.

    Seriously, I chose not to even get Veterans plates because there have been so many phonies and they all seem to be attracted to each other. I wore an Army ball cap out a few weeks ago and had two people come up to me and start slinging stories I knew to be crap and I haven’t worn it since.

    • CLAW131 says:

      Guard Bum, same here. Two weeks ago the wife and I were at our local Wally World. While she was out on the floor shopping I decided to go into the in store McDonalds for a cup of coffee. I wear a Chicago Cubs cap with a little 1/2 inch 101st Airborne Patch Pin on the top. As I was sitting at the table I took the cap off and laid it on the table. Anyway, this individual somehow zeroed in on the little pin and walked up to my table. Never introduced himself or said Hello or anything, just blurted out “You know I was shot five times”. I looked at him and replied “So,you expect me to believe you’re some kind of bullet magnet?” The look was priceless. About Face and beat feet out of there. Needless to say he didn’t have coffee with me. Unfortunately that type of behavior is all too commonplace nowadays.

      • John Miska says:

        Priceless can I use that line?

        • CLAW131 says:

          John,which one? The shot five times or the bullet magnet? If you meant the bullet magnet one,feel free to use it at your discretion.

          • John Miska says:

            Both…I may want to share with my buddy in Lynchburg VA, HB , who makes all those T shirts I have given away at Walter Reed over the years. This Bozo went to him wanting HB to make him shirts. HB know that I am a Vet contacted me about him and as soon as I saw his page I contacted Mary and the rest is History!

            • CLAW131 says:

              John, when I said above in my comment “this individual” I was not speaking of the exact embellisher of this post I’m out here in the Rocky Mountain Time Zone and this individual was the “Homeless Vet with a cardboard sign” that everybody sees at the entrance/exit to Wal-Mart. You know the type,current age of early 50’s,claims RVN service in 77/78,etc,that at the end of his “shift” drives away in a Cadillac SUV. So maybe I should have been clearer on my description.

      • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

        I have a favorite head game I like to play on critters like that, I call it “Bust the Bullshitter”. You ask the suspected poser some absolutely off the wall question that would get you a “BULLSHIT QUESTION!” response from any real Vet. say if your suspected faker is claiming to be a Ranger, you ask something like “What color is the boat house on King’s Lake?”, King’s Lake is on Ft. Benning, and it doesn’t have a boathouse, period, that lake is very shallow and swampy. Any real Ranger would call “BULLSHIT” on that question while a poser will either make up some crazy bullshit or slither away! If someone tells me they were in the USMC and I think they’re shitting me, I’ll ask them if they went to Boot Camp at Camp Ferris or Coronado, any real Marine (after at least being ready to smack me into next week) would say either Parris Island or San Diego, you have no Idea how many fake Marines have told me how tough Basic was at Camp Ferris! The same can be done for suspected navy fakes, I’ll ask if they did basic at either Coronado or Norfolk while the real answer is Great lakes, and so on. I have fun playing head games on fakes when I meet them face to face!!

        • ROFLOL ! ! !

          Thanks for the suggestions!

        • MCPO NYC USN Ret. says:

          BRILLIANT

          I am running off questions in my head now … This is going to be fun?

        • Ex-PH2 says:

          The Navy used to have an RTC at San Diego, before that was closed. There was also an RTC co-ed at Orlando until that was closed.

          I was there. I hated that place. The palmetto beetles were the size of helicopters. There was sand in everything because Disney World was being built. And half the time, the drains in the showers would clog and reek of swamp gas, never mind the ‘gators hiding in the rushes by the lake over by the swimming pool.

        • 19D1OR4 - Smitty says:

          Its Kings Pond actually. Fairly nice recreation area here at Benning. I’ve had the unfortunate pleasure of being stationed here for the past 3 years.

          It doesn’t have a boathouse like you said, but it does have a doc and you can go boating on it

          Just an FYI

          • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

            Yeah, Kings POND, I ETS’ed from Benning in 1994, it’s been a few years and many beers since, I stand corrected. They didn’t even have a dock there when I was on Ft. Benning, another thing you can ask a suspected fake is how much survival training they did at Uchee Creek on FB, because Uchee Creek is the name of the MWR campground and marina they have there on the Chattahoochee River!

            • 19D1OR4 - Smitty says:

              There is some decent fishing out at Uchee Creek though. You should come back for a visit sometime infidel, the Post has changed drastically since the Armor School moved here. Plus for all you infantry types, the brand new Infantry Museum is pretty awesome.

              • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

                I’d love to visit there once again, I went the new US Army Infantry Museum a few years ago, and AWESOME would be only a mild description of it!! Sometime next Spring or early Summer I plan to take my beloved Mrs. and our boy up there to visit it again and maybe venture out to Fryar Field to let our boy watch ’em jump afterward.

                • 19D1OR4 - Smitty says:

                  If you come during a weekday, I would suggest also going to the Armor Resoration center on Sand Hill, that is where the Armor museum is temporarily located. They have a small display area but in their MP is a few hundred tanks, APCs and other armored vehicles from WW1 to the modern era from all over the place.

              • Eden says:

                “Awesome” is an understatement! I got to visit there a couple of years ago after attending a Ranger school graduation.

        • Back a few years ago, when I really was a homeless Viet Nam veteran living on streets of Salt Lake City, Utah, I met NUMEROUS guys at the local Vet Center who claimed to have served in the United States Navy, and fallen off their ship during the shelling in Haiphong Harbor, and became a Prisoner of War.

          As you know, that happened to only ONE (01) sailor, Doug Hegdahl, whose story was told (with his name changed to Rasmussen) in the movie, “THE HANOI HILTON”.

          At that Vet Center, there were all kinds of phony veterans with hair-raising, unbelievable tales of heroism and narrow escapes in the old Republic of Viet Nam.

          Being naive, and not suspecting guys would lie to the Veterans Administration, the local news media, and even to officials of the Mormon Church, I genuinely believed what most of those frauds and liars were saying!

          • You’ll remember that after returning from Viet Nam, us veterans were despised and mocked.

            But, after the Iran Hostage Crisis, and those hostages were returned with hoopla, parades, awards, ceremonies, gifts, et cetera, ad infinitum, some Viet Nam veterans began publicly demanding, “Where’s OUR parade?”

            And, overnight, Viet Nam veterans suddenly became popular, and soon, EVERYBODY was claiming to be a Viet Nam veteran!

            I even saw it in newspaper comic strips, where guys who successfully avoided military service were expressing doubts about their own manhood.

            • Hondo says:

              Yep. That – plus the fact that lying to the VA about your “harrowing military experiences” is often good for cash – is IMO precisely why we’re seeing so damn many fakes and phonies these days.

              Money talks. And to get it, bullsh!tters will sometimes “walk” long distances.

              • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

                Posers that have conned the VA doing the “perp walk” handcuffed while being taken to jail, THAT’S a happy sight!!

                • Hondo says:

                  True dat. But for each caught, I’m guessing somewhere between 100 and 1,000 are still out there “rockin’ the lie” – and getting paid for it.

                  • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

                    As I see it, we can only persist and keep making examples of posers as soon as they’re confirmed, maybe it’ll catch on, the Internet is one VERY handy resource for doing so!!

                    • Hondo says:

                      I know, PI. I’m just venting.

                      I really hate to see folks defrauding the VA. And I also really hate the fact that the VA doesn’t seem to much give a damn, either.

          • MCPO NYC USN Ret. says:

            Geeze us Christ …

            John, is there anything you have not done in your life?

            Just curious!

            • @ MCPO NYC USN Ret.:

              ROFLOL ! ! !

              Actually, my life is also FULL of pain and regrets.

              But, still, as I look back, I’m rather amazed by everything that happened, and the fact that I overcame some terrible obstacles.

              Was it just pure dumb luck?

              Or was it undeserved blessings from the hand of Almighty God?

              • Did I ever tell you the story of how I was born during a poker game in a tent beside the railroad tracks?

                Or, how when found by county welfare workers, after our parents abandoned my five older sisters, my younger brother, and me, they saw me eating from the toilet?

                Or, when placed in an Irish Catholic orphanage, we had to be rescued when the building burned down?

                But, we were all adopted by good families, given new identities, and scattered to the four winds, to try and grow up as “normal” people.

                Most of my siblings succeeded, but I was a problem, especially in later years, being rebellious and adventurous, as I attempted to live as the characters in my favorite novels and movies.

                Since my parents didn’t understand that, and couldn’t control me, the juvenile court decided I was crazy and should be locked up with the criminals.

                But, unexpectedly, after years of horror, they turned me loose, and I struggled to become more or less like everyone around me, and that’s how I eventually wound up in the United States Army.

                Boy, what a lucky break that was!

                The combination of the Army and my conversion to the Mormon faith was what really turned my life around, filling it with blessings and opportunities.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      Some time back, I joined a Viet vets’ group, because they allowed Vietnam-era vets in it. I had one of those baseball caps with the group’s name on it, and a US Navy pin. I wore it to an airshow at the local naval air station, because it was a bright sunny day and I took my camera with me, as always.

      This guy comes up to me and says he was in the Nam, too. Please note: the Navy didn’t send women over there unless they were nurses. So when I asked him when he was there, he said 1978. If you recall, it was illegal to go to Vietnam at that time, and anyway, the war had been over for quite some time, so I said so, and I asked him how he managed to avoid being thrown into jail when he got back from there.

      He walked away very quickly without looking back. That was 1992. It isn’t something new, but it is annoying as hell.

      • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

        I used to work with an idiot that told me that he was a Vietnam Vet and he served from ’75 to ’79. He told me “Hell Yeah” when I asked him if he did any time in the A Shau Valley on the outskirts of Saigon and I busted his ass in front of everybody when I called “BULLSHIT!” on his reply! I’ve read about the A Shau Valley in “The Eyes of the Eagle” by Gary Linderer who was a LRP in the 101st. Larry Chambers wrote another book about his time in that unit, they served together for part of their tours. One of them has a chapter on a mission they did in that valley which was described as “Indian Country” well North of Saigon, thus I asked him a question to which any real Vietnam Combat Vet would have called “BULLSHIT!!” on!

      • MCPO NYC USN Ret. says:

        So I was sitting in an Irish bar in NYC and some old guy walks in and says he was the lone survior of Custer’s Last Stand.

        So I punched him in the throat, he fell to the floor, choked to death and died.

        Then I said, “not anymore”.

  16. MCPO NYC USN Ret. says:

    So I have a confession to make:

    I am not a member of any VSO for one reason only. I am deeply worried that in the middle of a regularly scheduled membership meeting, that I could stand up and out not one, not two, but perhaps most or all of the senior leadership of several posts and lodges I have visited and considered joining.

    Until it is a federal violation with stiff penalties to falsely gain access to a VSO … I am not going to affiliate.

    It is sad ….

    • Legans says:

      I used to feel the same way, Master Chief. Almost walked out of the PGR, ALR, and the AL for the same reason.

      There’s something bigger than me going on with these organizations so I’ve stuck with them.

      The AL and ALR out my way bought SFC Petry a H-D trike, modified for him, so he could ride with the ALR.

      Back in June the ALR, PGR, and Navajo Riders escorted CPT Will Swenson to Farmington, New Mexico to award the Silver Star to the family of SFC Kenneth Westbrook who died in the same battle as CPT Swenson was awarded the MOH.

      There are plenty of fakes in these organizations, but most of them are not fakes; and they do a lot of good things.

      Join one of them and have some fun calling out the fakes. Have a good time with the genuine guys and gals too. They really are doing something bigger than us.

    • John Miska says:

      I do call out fakers at Meetings. I was at the American Legion National Convention and there was a Delegate who was wear a Trident. I asked him what team etc etc…got BS BS and More BS from him so I reached out took his cap and took took the Trident off his cap and told him if I saw him again I would kick his ass…… It worked and he left convention. I should have gotten his name and info and given him to Don. As it is I now have a Trident Pin on my cork board and I will pass it onto a real SEAL as soon as I can…..
      Made this Monterrey Mary” feel real good to bust his ass.

    • John Miska says:

      Master Chief will you Join My American Legion Post 157 in Madison VA. We police our membership. No posers allowed and if someone starts with tails of “Daring Do”…we toss them quickly.
      We are very active with Care Packages and Project Healing Waters supporting our Deployed, wounded and injured Service Members and I can use your dues money to keep up the efforts. You can then brag about “Your” Post! We have the 4th Annual All Bamboo coming up the first weekend of Dec at http://www.roseriverfarm.com. You are invited to come out and see what a good VSO can do!
      By the way some of my best friends were Navy! I get seasick on Ferris Wheels so I joined the Army.

  17. John "Faker 6" Giduck says:

    It doesn’t matter what the folks here at TAH think. Has Degrata Tactical or Carl Chinn vetted David Hagerman as the “real deal”?

    That’s all that matters.

    sincerely

    John “Faker 6” Giduck

  18. Just An Old Dog says:

    As soon as I saw this piece of shit was trying to huste people in Bedford, Va it made my blood boil.
    This little town lost more boys per capita on D-Day than any other town in the US.
    I think someone about that posted Is a NG member of Co A 116th Infantry, historically the same company that lost all those guys.
    Close to 30 Were KIA within a minute of hitting the beach at Normandy.
    There is a book called “The Bedford Boys” that tells there story.
    The chapter where it talks about the teenage girl who worked in the western union getting all the telegrams at once is heart wretching.
    There is a stretch of road in that area of Va that is a memorial to them.
    That phony shit needs to have a sign hung aroung his neck saying what hes a fraus and be made to walk that road barefoot and naked in August with horseflies biting his ass

  19. Green Thumb says:

    Just another turd.

  20. AGE Ranger says:

    Isn’t that the Dos Equis guy??? BKA… “Stay thirsty my friends” guy???