Fred Williamson, Jr; not a military pilot

| April 24, 2016

Freddie Boyd Williamson II

If you’re my age, you probably remember Fred Williamson, Sr – he was a pro-football player with the Steelers, the Raiders and the Kansas City Chiefs (with whom he played in Super Bowl I on January 15, 1967 – the Packers won 35-10). Fred Williamson was on the AFL’s All Star team in 1961, 1962 and 1963. He was known as “The Hammer” because of his forearm blows that he applied to the heads of receivers. After his football career, Williamson went on to be an actor on the big screen and on TV. He also did a stint as a sports commentator on the Monday Night Football show. Yep, I was a fan of Fred Williamson – which is why I sat for more than a month on this case trying to get the subject to remove his claims. It is about his son, Freddie Williamson, Junior. According to his Twitter account, he claims to be a “military pilot”;

Fred Williamson Twitter profile

I asked him to take that out of his profile more than a month ago, because I really didn’t want to expose him. Looking at his Facebook and Twitter presence, he does a lot of good stuff for veterans’ causes. So I asked him to remove that “military pilot” thing from his Twitter account so I wouldn’t have to write this post. He read the message on the same day – March 13th – but he hasn’t removed those two words from his Twitter profile as of today. And so;

Freddie Williamson FOIA

Fred Williamson Training

Freddie Boyd Assignments

On his LinkedIn profile, he says that he attended the Air Force Academy – and that’s true. He attended the Academy from June 1978 – March 1979. It looks like he didn’t graduate. Then he enlisted in the Army in 1984 and spent almost two years training to fly assault helicopters at Fort Rucker.

Then in March 1985 he became a “duty soldier” and in May he went to Advanced Individual Training (AIT) and became a 75B Personnel Actions Center (PAC) clerk, so I have to guess that he didn’t graduate from helicopter pilot school at Fort Rucker – that’s not a normal career path for a pilot. Then he went to the Defense Language Institute followed by an assignment to Germany as a PAC Clerk for three years. He went on to serve in Orlando, Florida until his discharge in May 1991. His records say that he got out as a Private first Class (E-3) but I doubt that. He has two Good Conduct Medals so, I don’t think he did anything to get busted and after seven years he should have been a higher rank, but his last assignment was as a 75B10, an E-4 or lower.

The fact remains that, even though he may have flown military aircraft, he wasn’t a military pilot. Like I said, on March 13th I asked him to remove those two words from his profile so I wouldn’t have to write this and I got the cricket chorus in return.

Category: Phony soldiers

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  1. AW1Ed says:

    I have stick time in both fixed and fling wing military aircraft from when I was in the Navy, and I certainly don’t claim to be military pilot!

  2. Sapper3307 says:

    Their is that German head start class again that was a long week.

    • Andy11M says:

      yea it was a long week. my unit kept trying to pull me out of Head Start to send me out to Hohenfels. Joke was on them, my TA-50 issue wasn’t scheduled until my last day of in processing, the week AFTER Head Start.

  3. Andy11M says:

    For his time at Rucker I see his duty listed as “WOC”. Does that mean just the Warrant Officer Course, or do the different AVN company’s Aco, Bco, then Cco, show a progression through the actual flight school with each company responsible for a different phase of flight school? I was just a nasty Mech Infantryman, so I wouldn’t know, but I’m sure there is a rotor head or two here that can tell me what the Warrant/Flight training pipeline is. As far as his getting out a PFC, could the good conduct medals be a screw up? Or maybe he was a profile Ranger his last few years and couldn’t reup?

    • Andy11M says:

      forgot to add, with his leaving the Air Farce Academy after just a year, and his failing to complete Warrant/Flight school, I have to wonder, was he just not a good student, or were there other problems?

    • NormanS says:

      I wouldn’t know. Though I was a WOC for about nine weeks, I didn’t get any stick time. Spent a good number of those weeks waiting for assignment to a training class, then promptly washed out. Was sent to MP AIT at Ft. Gordon, then duty with 561st MP Co, Ft. Myer, Virginia. 95B10; Spc4 within one year of enlistment.

    • Eden says:

      Based on a family member’s experience (just a few years after this guy), one completes Warrant Officer Candidate school, then goes on to Warrant Officer Flight school. Looks to me as though he got recycled through several tries at WOCS (3 different class numbers) and never made it to WOFS.

      • Andy11M says:

        I think your read on his time at the WOC is probably right. So he most likely didn’t even get any stick time and was recycled THREE times through the WOC. So that taken with his one year at the Air Force Academy, I’m going to guess he was a shitty student.I’m surprised he made it through admin AIT

    • Hondo says:

      The GCMs may well not be a mistake – and he may have indeed ended up getting reduced.

      He was on active duty for close to 7 years. If he kept his “nose clean” for the 1st 6 yrs but then stepped on his crank, it’s entirely possible he could have received 2 GCMs and then got reduced to PFC, then chaptered out.

      • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

        I remember the QMP (Quality Management Program) they had during the early 90’s that chaptered people out for still being in a certain grade after so much time. If I remember correctly, still being an E2 after 18 months, and E3 after 30 months, E4 after eight years and so on. A QMP Discharge also resulted from one being reduced in rank after so much time in service, thus my deduction that he likely got QMP’ed.

    • HMCS(FMF) ret. says:

      Not sure what the training pipeline looks like for Army Aviation, but I’m guessing that he was a recycle in training – it looks like he was in three different classes (85-6, 85-19, 85-21) while at Ft. Rucker.

      Damn, The Hammer’s son lying about his service…

  4. sj says:

    Well, he is more of a military pilot than ole Chevy (aka Hollywood). And, no reports of running out of fuel?

  5. Jarhead says:

    It’s entirely possible he thought his PFC rank meant he was a Pilot First Class. Then again we can think it meant Pretty F____g Clueless. Or maybe Pathetic F____g Clown.

    • Dave Hardin says:

      This place is starting to get to you Jarhead. I remember the day whey you didn’t us ____ when you posted.

      The google gods are smiling upon you. You are turning into a class act. It just shows that its never too late to polish protocol.

  6. Doc Savage says:

    Hmm……I have “stick time” in a Cirrus SR22….I was once in the military.

    I am not a Military Pilot.
    I am not even a pilot.

    Being a flight trainee that did NOT graduate the course does NOT make you a Military Pilot.

  7. FatCircles0311 says:

    I bet he flew that desk like nobody else!

  8. Eden says:

    Yeah, I have stick time in several Army helicopters. They would land at the base where I was stationed and offer “joy rides” around the pattern to anyone in base ops who was able to go. I’m not a military pilot, but I did fly LGD-6s for several years.

  9. Club Manager says:

    Aw shit, now I have to revise my obituary. I had a few minutes of T-33 back seat stick time as a reward for being Airman of the Quarter at Portland Intl Airport. Guess I’ll have to scratch Air Force fighter ace but still have Airborne Ranger Sniper Scuba Seal. I didn’t include Marine RECON because I thought that would be over the top.

  10. O-4E says:

    Holy sh*t I’ve never seen a dude given so many excellent 2nd chances…

    USAFA…bolo!

    So here try WOFT…..bolo!

    That’s ok here’s a DLI slot…..

    Wtf over

    • Poetrooper says:

      Perhaps some political influence because daddy was a football star and Hollywood celebrity?

      Back in the early 60’s when I was an RTO for a rifle company commander in the 101st, we had a company screw-up named Byrd who never seemed to get punished for transgressions that would have sent any other trooper to the stockade. According to my buddy, the company clerk, his files were clearly marked “P.I.” for family political influence.

      And yeah, it was that “Byrd” family…

      • O-4E says:

        That was my point

        When I was at Fort Drum I was at the time serving as the Battalion S4 for an Artillery Battalion

        The worst Soldier in the entire 540 man Battalion was the Chaplain Assistant.

        PFC Halliburton

        Yes. Those Halliburtons

        He wasn’t so much a dirtbag as much as he was the perpetual incompetent Private.

        Failed his first and every PT test getting to us after AIT as well as every weapons qualification.

        I had my NCOIC pull his training records for basic and AIT.

        Sure enough on every PT test he had the exact same bare minimum score. Same with his weapons qual. If someone is going to pencil whip something at least they’ll mix it up some. This told me the Drill Sergeants were told to pass this kid and in protest just put the exact same minimum scores down each time.

        He also married the first heffer he met after 3 days

        And the list goes on.

        I did watch him get trapped in an overturned porta potty at JRTC. He decided to use it as CH-47s were coming in to drop pallets to resupply us. Blew his porta john over door side down.

        • O-4E says:

          This was the 98-02 time frame btw

        • O-4E says:

          Oh yeah. Just remembered this shit. This motherfucker also burned himself badly on the neck with an iron.

          Ironing his BDU top while wearing it

          On TWO separate occasions!!!!

          Imagine a triangle shape burn at closer inspection shows to be the red and blistered outline of the front of the iron. With the little circles for the steam holes visible.

          I’m going to keep posting BS this kid did as I remember it. Kind of a living history.

          The memories a glass of rum brings back

          • Snotcrow says:

            O-4E

            I could read that all day. I mean, to me it is a trainwreck how some are just unfit for service and yet who their dad is/was makes all the difference.

            The worst one I experienced was after the service… when I met a man who went to west point. Unfit to take charge of his own life. And the stories never ended, same mistakes over and over again. He got a GOV job due to who he dad once was.

  11. David says:

    Who goes to DLI to become a clerk? This looks like someone who washed out of every course he ever took.

    • Ncat says:

      If memory serves, the shortest basic language courses at DLI were 27 weeks. If I’m reading it right, he was at the Institute for just shy of 4 months. And it’s not like the course begins the day you get there. So…

      • Average Joe says:

        I was in C co in 1989 and it was only Russian students. Looks like he may have failed out of the course. No shame on him for trying. If I remember correctly we had a 25 percent wash out rate. Those folks went on to “needs of the army” (predominantly Bradley mechanics and cooks while I was there) but since he was already an mos qualified pac clerk…

    • Green Thumb says:

      Yep.

      MOS 00Z.

      Clown.

  12. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    So just what DIDN’T he bolo out of before he became a clerk? At least he didn’t make a sooperdooperseekritskwirrelSEALRangerSFScoutSniper claim. I still be he reads a fuel level better than a certain Non-CPO.

  13. Alemaster says:

    The system changed quite a bit since in graduated (Class 70-45) bit it looks as though he went to Air Assault School at Rucker while in “Snowbird” or holding for the six week WOC course. After getting a provisional WO1 he made 36 weeks of RWFT (recycles? Instrument Phase is a huge eliminator!) before sent to “Blackbird” (failure of course) status and enlisted AIT. Possibly got his GCMs during enlisted status on either side of WOFT? regards, Alemaster

  14. Claw says:

    Seven years active duty.

    Flunked out of every Army school/course he ever went to, except for the grueling four week Unit PAC Clerk school at Fort Ben Harrison in Indianapolis.

    Never had to draw any TA-50 field gear in his entire career. Closest he ever got to being at the tip of the sword was being the Morning Report/Orderly Room Clerk in a Commercial Tractor-Trailer Medium Truck Company located at Kleber Kaserne in Kaiserslautern. (Whoo-Hoo, 40 Mark Strausse ran right past the Main Gate)

    No personal awards (not even an AAM)other than the Good Conduct Medal (which he probably just added his name to a recommendation list when it was forwarded to higher headquarters).

    Final discharge as only a PFC? Yeah, I can believe that. Wonder what strings he pulled to get assigned to a Naval Training Center in Florida for his last months in the Army.

    Overall evaluation of his time spent in the Army:

    Waste of a uniform, worthless as tits on a boar hog. He needs to apologize to every tree that worked overtime to provide him with oxygen.

    Even though his father is now 78 years old, I think old Fred should “Hammer” his ass just for general principle.

    • sj says:

      This reaffirms that I’m going to enjoy our visit!

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      That reminds me of a story I read on another site about a “THAT GUY” in someone’s unit that was a perpetual source of heartburn for his CoC and NCO Support Chain. One NCO told him “THIS is it, yelling at you is a waste of time, stand fast right here until I return!” and after a short time the NCO returned with a potted plant telling him “YOU WILL keep this with you at all times during the duty day from Morning PT until close of business and if anyone asks what for, you will tell them it’s to compensate for all of the oxygen you have wasted during your life!”

      • Green Thumb says:

        We used to just smoke their balls off. Or get our balls smoked off depending on which side of the infraction you fell.

        Physical discipline is a bitch, however, it can be effective.

  15. Just An Old Dog says:

    Damn how many chances did they giove him to become a WO?
    I know in the Corps you were pretty much one and done.
    There was an asshole Admin Chief at MCRD who got selected for WO and while awaitting assignment to School ( They basially go through an abrievated version of what OCS graduates go through (TBS) at Quantico.
    He got a DUI and ended up getting out on his EAS.
    I had a GySgt Drill Instructor who got selected in My Company and the first thing I did was get him away from recruits.
    He was a bit miffed at first but he understood it was to protect him from bullshit.

  16. Bill says:

    I went to Basic with Fred, he was a good guy we went to flight school together in 85′ He took a setback to another class (from class 85-19) After that he washed out. I came back to Ft Rucker in Summer of 86 for the Blackhawk transition. He was outprocessing said he was going to be a Intel Warrant he did not graduate flight school or from what I read here language school either. He was a good dude but should not lie about washing out. Lots of folks did.

  17. Green Thumb says:

    What’s the word?

    This dude is still a turd.