Trump and compromising information

| January 11, 2017 | 178 Comments

The Washington Post says that the Russians have amassed a treasure trove of information on the president-elect that they can use to leverage American policy.

A senior U.S. official with access to the document said that the allegations were presented at least in part to underscore that Russia appeared to have collected embarrassing information on both major candidates but released only material that might harm Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton — a reflection of Russian motivation that bolstered U.S. spy agencies’ conclusion that Moscow sought to help Trump win.

The inclusion of such unsubstantiated allegations in the election report, a development first reported Tuesday by CNN, adds a disturbing new dimension to existing concerns about Russia’s efforts to undermine American democracy.

And it adds another bizarre twist to an already strange election year, injecting new controversy over the Trump team’s relations with Russia just when the president-elect is trying to consolidate and launch his new administration.

As you might guess, the Russians deny that they’ve gathered any such information, according to Fox News;

Moscow denied allegations Wednesday that the Kremlin has collected compromising information about Donald Trump and called news reports on the matter a “complete fabrication and utter nonsense” — as the president-elect blasted the claims on Twitter.

Dmitry Peskov, a spokesman for President Vladimir Putin, insisted that the Kremlin “does not engage in collecting compromising material.”

The Daily Beast says that the intelligence agencies got the information from 4chan;

“So they took what I told Rick Wilson and added a Russian spy angle to it. They still believe it. Guys, they’re truly fucking desperate—there’s no remaining Trump scandal that’s credible,” the anonymous post from Nov. 1 reads. Wilson is a Republican operative who managed Evan McMullin’s independent campaign and has been an outspoken critic of Trump.

There are no details in the post, which is archived here, about what was allegedly told to Wilson—simply that the user purportedly gave him fake information. It also doesn’t explain how this would have gotten to intelligence agencies.

With a straight face, CNN reports on a briefing to the president-elect by intelligence chiefs;

The allegations were presented in a two-page synopsis that was appended to a report on Russian interference in the 2016 election. The allegations came, in part, from memos compiled by a former British intelligence operative, whose past work US intelligence officials consider credible. The FBI is investigating the credibility and accuracy of these allegations, which are based primarily on information from Russian sources, but has not confirmed many essential details in the memos about Mr. Trump.

The classified briefings last week were presented by four of the senior-most US intelligence chiefs — Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, FBI Director James Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers.

That “former British intelligence operative, whose past work US intelligence officials consider credible” was being paid by Trump’s political opponents to assemble the report.

Two things; First, is anyone really surprised that there are stories like this out there? Second, having watched Trump over the last several months, I don’t think there’s anything out there that could embarrass him into policy shifts even if the stories about him are true.

What happened to all of those sexual harassment victims that were coming out of the woodwork before the election?

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  1. Silentium Est Aureum says:

    /b is someone’s personal army after all.

    Fucking priceless.

  2. Graybeard says:

    Smells like Fake News to me.

    A desperate mediot working with desperate pogues in a flanking action to try to stop the Trump demolition of their influence and positions.

    Slander them with supposed sexual improprieties has been used so many friggin’ times by these hacks that you can see it coming from a mile away – and smell it for ten miles.

    • Graybeard says:

      Plus I just clued that this was the Clintoon fakeNews Network

      Those same folks who claimed the kidnapping and torture of a mentally handicapped man is not “hate.”

      What is scary to me is that there are people who believe these talking heads.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      Regarding this: Two things; First, is anyone really surprised that there are stories like this out there? Second, having watched Trump over the last several months, I don’t think there’s anything out there that could embarrass him into policy shifts even if the stories about him are true.

      1) – No.

      2) – Right on.

      3) – Sexual harassment? Pffft! Shoulda smacked him when you had the chance, bitches!

      They really do have too much time on their hands, you know.

    • desert says:

      Does ANYONE actually believe ANYTHING, that frigging washed up post has to say about ANYTHING? They are liars of the first order, why are they not asking the wicked bitch of the east how much info she gave them?

  3. Skippy says:

    Anything coming from the left media I simply don’t believe
    Talk about sore losers

    • QM1 says:

      Yep. Soon as I heard it fake news was the first thought that came to mind.

      They keep this up and no one will believe anything at all they say. Lot of folks don’t already anyways. And for good reason.

  4. Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

    This is what happens when irresponsible assclowns in the media run with raw intelligence thinking they know something….

    They’ve only got a few days left to scream from the rooftops whatever lies they can come up with….

    The folks who forgive a drunken Ted Kennedy for drowning a woman tried to slander Sessions yesterday…I’m not a huge fan of Sessions, but he seems like a decent enough guy who is more than qualified to do the job and the claims about his racism are such utter bullshit that anyone promoting them like that fucktard Cory Booker are just cocksucking fucking liars….he might have said a word 35 years ago…or he might not have….wow that’s some serious allegations there you shitbags…meanwhile their fucking hero Teddy actually left a woman to die while he went home and called his attorney and put on some dry clothes. Let that sink in for a moment…because Teddy was rich he got away with at a minimum negligent homicide, and the people who love him will just talk around a dead woman like she doesn’t matter because of all the great shit he did afterwards. But they are so incensed Session might have said a word they can’t find their way clear to support him.

    That’s all you really need to know about the liberal sense of honor and integrity….miserable fucks that they are.

    • The Other Whitey says:

      Saw a thing last night where a member of the Snowflake Liberation Front tweeted(?) a picture of Sessions holding his granddaughter in his lap, with this asshole’s commentary that Sessions “better return that Asian baby to the Toys’R’Us you stole her from.” Evidently liberals still support miscegenation laws, eh?

      • Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

        I saw that as well, he tried to delete that tweet right away, but the internet is forever so his racist, anti-American tweet will remain.

        That comment alone made me wish Sessions the best of luck in his new role in the government. Pissing off the snowflakes like that gives me hope he’s the right man for the job.

      • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

        Yeah, it was sent by some smug booger-eating bedwetter that works for MTV, big surprise.

    • rgr769 says:

      Gus Hall, fearless leader of the Communist Party of the USA, once said that the happiest day of his life would be when the last American Congressman was strangled to death on the guts of the last minister or priest. For me, it will be when I get to see these lying progtard crypto-commie traitor mo-fo’s pull rope, like they so richly deserve.

    • desert says:

      I think Sessions is one HELLUVA lot better than previous imposter Atty Generals…i.e. Holder the communist a.h., or Lynch, the phony ignorant, in the clintons pocket bitch! imho

  5. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    MORE BULLSHIT from the same liberal mess media asshats that bawled about “Fake News”. What’s next, maybe hard evidence that Trump is not qualified to be POTUS because it’s alleged that he cut a fart before walking into Church when he was five and in the third grade he called some girl a “Doo-doo Head”, thus making him a *GASP!* possible bully?

  6. Commissar says:

    Not saying this story true. But if this story were about Obama or Clinton most of you guys would believe it and think anyone that didn’t was an ignorant libtard.

    Selectivity and confirmation bias is a serious problem.

    • GDContractor says:

      Look! It’s a self-loathing homophobe!

    • Sparks says:

      Not up to you today fuck stick. So go get another Hot Pocket and go fuck yourself. Please.

    • Graybeard says:

      Good morning, Lars.
      You say: “Selectivity and confirmation bias is a serious problem.”

      In all kindness, I must point out that you exemplify that serious problem quite often.

      FWIW, I would be very doubtful if this were reported about Obama. In the lists of his many failures, sexual misconduct has not (yet) appeared AFAIK.

      Bill Clinton, however, has displayed early and often his sexual misconduct. As for Hillary, one would at least have to wonder, as she has not shown herself adverse to any type of misconduct.

      Ergo, the second sentence of your post is demonstrably false, reinforcing the third sentence of this post.

    • Ret_25X says:

      its a 4/chan troll.

      Trolling journalists is so easy even children can do it with regular and predictable success.

      Why? Because when your collegiate coursework is an indoctrination program you can only produce minions who follow a script.

      As for retired intel officers, I only ever met one with anything but mush for brains.

    • OWB says:

      Your prejudice really is quite hilarious, oh delusional one. Too, too funny. You have my pity. No sympathy, since your ignorant is willful, but you certainly have my pity.

      Just consider for a moment the truly great things you could do if you channeled some of the energy you waste nurturing your delusions into a productive activity. Tsk, tsk. Poor little delusional lefty. What a shame.

      Teehee. You must enjoy being laughed at or you would do more things which are laudable rather than silly, and incredibly funny.

    • Eden says:

      I think you really enjoy being a punching bag, Lars. That, and you have absolutely nothing useful to do, so you keep coming back and setting yourself up for more contempt. You can’t possibly believe that you are engaging in serious dialog here that might “enlighten” your adversaries. It’s a sad commentary on your mental and emotional state that you think that negative attention is better than no attention at all. Sucks to be you.

    • The Other Whitey says:

      Lars, why do you persistently assume that everyone else is like you?

    • Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

      When a news source that purports itself to be reputable publishes something that they state is completely unverifiable at this time but we’re publishing it anyway so you can decide for yourself if it’s true or not we can safely assume they know it’s quite likely to be bullshit and thus they are covering themselves.

      I suspect you know as well as I do that such a story that was unverifiable would ever be published by Buzzfeed (a hack shop if ever there was one) regarding Obama or Clinton. Their bias is only surpassed by their ability to hire some of the stupidest writers and hacks on the planet.

      At the moment it appears that any thing that any shit bag operation on the left side of the aisle can find about the President Elect will be said without regard for the verifiability of the information.

      It’s fairly clear the hurt at their loss is so deep, along with the revelation they weren’t accurately predicting anything prior to this election that they all had in the bag for Clinton, that they are now willing to cast any pretense of honorable journalism aside and openly become publishers of propaganda and lies to promote their own agendas.

      So much for credibility.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      HEY Lars, yeah you ya booger-eatin’ fart monkey! Not only were your fellow puddin’-tame candyasses in the media trolled, they got a chunk of your fellow squirrels as well, YOU GOT HOAXED and I’m enjoying some schadenfreude like I do a glass of good Bourbon.

    • SFC D says:

      I firmly believe that the Russians probably have information that could be used for blackmail on pretty much every member of the House, Senate, every President and VP back to Jefferson, 90% of the White House staff, a yuuuuge number of present and former ambassadors, most of the leaders in the business world, pretty much anyone of note. So this news really isn’t news. It’s more of a “no shit, Sherlock!” moment.

  7. Sparks says:

    First, any news, real or fake, that came out about the DNC and its employees has yet to be refuted as untrue.

    Next, let’s say you are Putin for a moment and wanted to influence the outcome of our election. Would you come down on the side of Trump who may stand his ground and take you to task for your policies, or on the side of Clinton, who you know from experience will allow your Russian expansion and antics to go unquestioned and unchallenged?

    It is just a bullshit story, from bullshit news outlets, with bullshit logic behind it and in front of it meant to continue the never ending litany of why Clinton lost other than, she is a shit person, with a shitty history and a shit plan for the country’s future.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      “Shitty History” is RIGHT, let’s not forget the sweetheart uranium deal that Russia got after a lavish donation to the Crook (*OOPS!*, Clinton) Foundation along with the tens of millions donated by ME Kingdoms and Sheikdoms, I wonder if some of the latter don’t want at least a partial refund? I don’t think Hitlery or “Blowjob Willie” will be making any more speeches to say, Goldman Sachs for six figure sums any more!

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      That’s far too much logic, Sparks. Far too much!

  8. Fjardeson says:

    More media noise. Enough, already. Hey advertisers! Go elsewhere.

  9. OWB says:

    Pointing and laughing is the most appropriate reaction to people who insist that anyone take their delusions seriously. Ignoring them doesn’t seem to be very effective – they continue to delude themselves that the rest of us care about their feelings. Laughing at them is the easiest way to show them just how irrelevant they are.

  10. LC says:

    I hate when people run with stuff like this without verification. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Even if you think President-elect Trump is the worst human being in the world, the whole ‘women peeing on same bed that the Obamas had’ thing seems awfully unlikely unless that hotel room became a target of the FSB/SVR after the Obama visit. I mean, the Secret Service is hardly going to put POTUS up in a room that’s ‘well-known’ as an intelligence trap. That strains credibility.

    Some of the other claims seem more plausible, and I wouldn’t take the notion that Russia has tried to cultivate Trump as an unwitting asset lightly. Spy stuff is rarely, “Hey, want to betray your country?”, it’s often a measure of small degrees that give you a slight strategic advantage. And hopefully people on both sides of the aisle, and Trump himself, can be objective enough to give this a fair analysis and the right amount of caution and thought in policy and interactions with Russia.

    • 11B-Mailclerk says:

      Hey Zampolit! Read LC’s post and reconsider your posting approach. LC wrote something thoughtful. You tend to leave rhetorical farts.

      And like an 11 year old boy, you are greatly impressed with your own farts.

    • 11B-Mailclerk says:

      Sorry to hijack your thread LC. It was a teachable moment, and I thought it might provide some guidance to someone so very much in need of a new style guide.

      —–

      The Russians use Sun Tzu at every level of Military and Intellegence training. The ancient maxim is “Sow disorder in the enemy camp”. They -live- that maxim.

      They will do anything short of starting an all-out war to reduce us to a gibbering blob of discord, including inducing a loss of faith in our own rather stable system. People who oppose Trump for reasons stupid or profound seem blind to this, and merrily play along for their own agenda.

      The correct answer from both camps should have been “Hey Vlad! Yob off! You and yours are -far- more fragile, so don’t piss us off.”

      More troubling: it is starting to look like our -own- intel service(s) are choosing sides this time, in a big way. -That- is the threat, when the bureaucracy and the minions decide to play Pretorian Guard and pick the next Boss.

      That did -not- work out well for Rome. But all sides in Rome played that game with deadly seriousness – to the disastrous logical conclusion.

      So which will it be folks? Party or Country? Its 1860 again, in a way. Choose wisely how to proceed.

      • LC says:

        No problem on my end – I agree with Lars on a few things, but his style doesn’t allow for sensible discussion. And frankly I think that’s a huge part of the problem these days. Neither side presents the full truth of things; they present a side that best reflects their interests. You can really only get the full sense of any complicated topic by hearing and discussing both sides.

        More troubling: it is starting to look like our -own- intel service(s) are choosing sides this time, in a big way. -That- is the threat, when the bureaucracy and the minions decide to play Pretorian Guard and pick the next Boss.

        On this point I’ll disagree with you. I don’t think the IC has chosen ‘sides’, and further I wish this wasn’t seen as ‘sides’. Again, most issues aren’t black and white – take the DNC hacks, for example. The IC has considerable evidence that breaches into the DNC system were done via Russia. Denying that at this point is, honestly, pretty hard, but if you don’t see it I’m happy to walk through the evidence. They take a position (not a political ‘side’) because that’s what the evidence points towards, and that’s what an IC should do. Go where the evidence leads them.

        Now this latest document by an ex-MI6 offier is a different story – it’s got a lot of information in it, and some of that information probably doesn’t pass the sniff test, and some seems pretty plausible. Foreign countries take interest in billionaires who visit their country, unsurprisingly. Would Russia try to get compromising material on him? Absolutely. But the question is whether they succeeded, and what that means in Mr. Trump’s case – and there, obviously, the IC has made no pronouncements. As they wouldn’t, since there’s currently no (public) evidence to that effect.

        In short, the IC is doing what it should – evaluating evidence. If you have examples of them coming to conclusions not supported by evidence, or with better, alternate theories, I’d be interested in hearing them. In my opinion, the concern isn’t the IC being political (since there’s no evidence for that), it’s the idea that the IC is being political, and thus diminishing the value of their work, which is sorely needed now.

        As an aside for those who distrust the CIA but somehow don’t share that distrust of the Russians, the Russian spokesman today said they ‘don’t try to acquire compromising information’ on people. That made me laugh out loud. That’s a key agenda for any intelligence service seeking influence or assets!

        • 11b-mailclerk says:

          Maybe I missed the memo somewhere. All the comments seem to ne Trump/Russia. A little bit just now Clinton/Ukrane.

          The media is certainly trying to keep it set to Dump Trump, but onw would expect “election tinkering” to include the money trails to Clinton.

          The -public- comments seem lopsided on one side.

          • LC says:

            There are two distinct differences between Clinton and Trump that, regardless of personal feelings, warrant more attention on Trump.

            The first is, quite simply, he’s soon to be the President of the United States of America. Clinton has no political presence at this time, and god willing, won’t in the future either. Which deserves more attention, someone holding the highest office in the land, or a political has-been?

            The second difference is the nature of the allegations – that Clinton used money given to her foundation for political purposes, or traded ‘face-time’ for donations, or anything like that, versus that a foreign power which has been shown to have disproportionately favor one candidate now may have cultivated that candidate as an asset of influence. The latter is a far more concerning allegation. Basically, someone who is a sell-out (which we sadly expect in our politicians!) vs. someone who is operating, unwilling or not, on behalf of a single enemy state and their strategic goals. Occasional, wide-spread influence vs. singular, concentrated influence.

            Now, I’m pretty skeptical of PEOTUS being compromised in any traditional sense, but my personal feelings aside, the above is why Trump/Russia is a larger story than a twice-failed Presidential candidate and the gray-area interplay between her foundation, which unquestionably does a lot of good and seems to be on the up-and-up, and her now-deceased political career.

            • 11b-mailclerk says:

              Ace of spades HQ site has had some interesting posts recently on intel and “deep state” efforts.

              You commented on relative differences trump and clinton

              1) prior to election, both mattered equally.

              2) much of clintons donations, thus possible interest seeking, were foreign, and from relevant countries while she was sec state, not candidate.

        • David says:

          Regardless of whether the Rooshians were involved in hacking Hilary etc… the release of unsubstantiated accusations is slanderous. To use Lars’ example above – if “we have an unconfirmed report that when the Obamas were on vacation they hired a hooker to do golden showers on Michelle and Barack together – we don’t believe it but we are releasing it for you to decide” ever happened, whoever released that story would likely wind up working for MacDonald’s. Rumors should not be released as news.

  11. David says:

    According to the NY Post, one of the FBI’s sources on this was John McCain – he supposedly was given a copy of the allegations and decided the FBI should hear about it.

    Re the allegations themselves – I would be more surprised if the Russians DIDN’T try to influence our elections. And it’s telling that no matter what the source of info on the DNC… no one has said it is false in all this time.

    • Graybeard says:

      I used to respect John McCain.

      He has earned my disrespect, sadly.

    • Ret_25X says:

      It gets better. Apparently, this whole thing has been “out there” in the media for months (at least since August 2015) and the DNC operatives had been shopping the story to a gullible…errr…willing media outlet.

      The 4th most despicable man in DC decided he hated Trump more than he liked his credibility (which has been zero for several years) and placed it into the correct hands.

      Now for the rest of the story. According to some sources in the DC area, this whole thing was created by a Repugnican back in the Spring of 2015 to get Trump out of the primary, but the megabucks wardaddy paying for it got bored and let it go. A DNC megabuck wardaddy picked it up and found it to be too good to pass up.

      Now here we are.

      I just don’t get people who say our politicians never get anything done….oh…wait…

  12. valerie says:

    It’s a hoax, and both the Washington Post and the New York Times knew it was a hoax before they put the articles to bed last night.

    The story of the hoax broke at least by 4:30pm Jan 10, 2016
    https://i.sli.mg/HDRMLJ.png

    Here’s a link to a summary from 4Chan last night at about 6 pm.

    https://i.sli.mg/wg7xaa.jpg

    The New York Times slipped up by printing a pre-written article with all of the gory details, updated with a tweet from Trump that was a response, not to the briefing (as implied by their article) but to the release of the whole document by Buzzfeed and CNN, followed by the rebuttal from 4Chan.

    The_Donald over at Reddit has been laughing about this since at least about 7 pm last night.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5n9pmy/cia_will_soon_be_1when_searching_for_the_term/

    And yet, the New York Post managed to print the story of the hoax by 11 pm last night

    http://nypost.com/2017/01/10/buzzfeeds-trump-report-takes-fake-news-to-a-new-level/

    Wikileaks was unimpressed last night at 8:30 pm last night

    https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/819037478627770368

    This morning, zero hedge had a summary and timeline

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-10/4chan-claims-have-fabricated-anti-trump-report-hoax

  13. Martinjmpr says:

    Actually, as much as I dislike Trump, I have to say that he seems pretty immune to this sort of thing if only because he’s pretty shameless. I mean, anything that anyone could say bad about him, he has more or less acknowledged.

    Womanizer? Check. Ruthless businessman? Check. Business failures? Check. Obnoxious egotist? Check.

    So what are they going to try and “reveal” that will somehow embarrass The Donald? Do they have a video of him eating a puppy or ripping the tag off a mattress?

    Seems to me the people out to get Trump expended all their ammunition against him during the election and it just bounced off his chest like Superman in an old comic strip.

    The American people knew all the skeletons in Trumps closet – hell, he’s lived in a public fishbowl for 30 years – and STILL elected him. What kind of “compromising information” could possibly have any effect now?

    • Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

      Indeed, no one voting for Trump did so because he represented the most stellar example of our best nature.

      They picked Trump as a big FUCK YOU to everyone else including the Republican leadership. There’s a message in there that has very little to do with Trump and everything to do with the leadership of both parties.

      It remains to be seen if any of that leadership on either side will get the message, but clearly the electorate has been steadily rejecting the status quo for the last 8 years, no one was really paying attention except the voters as it turns out.

      • Sparks says:

        ^This^

        Oh and did I say…

        ^THIS!^

      • Ex-PH2 says:

        As a big FUCK YOU to everyone else – precisely. He’s been facing down trash reporters for decades.

        All of this is just more bitch-and-moan because shrillary didn’t get elected. Whether or not they grow up remains to be seen. It’s a moot point right now, because they are all so stupid, they fell for bait that no one else, not even a shark, would go after.

    • Commissar says:

      Reportedly it is a video of him paying women to pee on him.

      • Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

        Thus the whole #PEEOTUS thing…

      • 2/17 Air Cav says:

        Why would he pay when 99% of the females and 100% of the males in Berkeley would do it for free? You had better change the false story to bestiality. Yeah, that’s it. When he had pets, he HAD pets.

      • Sparks says:

        I see the problem. You pee on yourself regularly and you’re into golden showers. All this just hit a trigger for you Commissar.

        • Commissar says:

          I don’t even know if this story is true. You assume I do because YOU would believe anything negative about a liberal and this assume I do about conservatives.

          • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

            NO Komrade Poodle Poop, the allegation was that Trump paid some call girls to urinate all over the bedroom mattress in a Moscow hotel suite that the 0bamas once stayed in and wanted it done out of pure spite for them. PLEASE DO get your facts straight before you pee and poop your britches in our presence!

      • Ex-PH2 says:

        And you’re stupid enough to believe that story, Piuperdink! You are SO consistent in your efforts to let everyone and his uncle know what a dumb fuck you are. If you really think there is something, some video like that, cough it up and prove it, or shut the fuck up.

      • 11b-mailclerk says:

        So…. Despite the now near certain “its crap” value, you felt compelled to repeat vile details?

        Does that approach “knowlingly uttering a falsehood”?

        And the detail you selected was wrong?

    • Silentium Est Aureum says:

      You forgot tax evader. Which is why I’ll never run for elected office–I had the unmitigated gall to deduct everything I was legally able to as well.

  14. Club Manager says:

    Anyone with any common sense and particularly with pre-travel info knows they are a target in certain countries. WAR STORY ALERT: There I was on a Aeroflot plane between Moscow and Leningrad in 76′ and someone asked what I did. I answered I was an American Army Officer and this honey sitting a few seats down developed a quick interest in me that led to a fun evening on the town. Being positive the only thing that may have been recorded was my bad dancing, I reported the contact when I returned to Germany but provided full details. Needless to say MPI was envious but since many were my night managers, they understood warrant officers got their share of strange ad someone else’s too. Morale of this true story is Trump has to e a hell of a lot smarter than I and he does not consume adult beverages. Does anyone actually think he would have fallen for that honey trap?

    • 2/17 Air Cav says:

      Oh look! It’s now real and potentially true because someone published a story about it. Freaking moron.

      • Commissar says:

        What?

        I never expressed any support for either side of this issue.

        I know that there is a ton of misinformation going around right now. There is a power struggle between some neoliberal establishment interests and Trump’s team.

    • HMCS(FMF) ret says:

      Jeezuz… LARS TAYLOR actually posted with a link to his comments! SOMEONE GET A SCREENSHOT OF THIS FOR THE TAH ARCHIVES!!!

      • GDContractor says:

        He has provided a few links in the past. Most notably, a link to a story that death threats against President Obama were up 400% above all previous presidents! Force his link story had no basis in fact at all… Some might say he linked to it because of his confirmation bias.

    • 11B-Mailclerk says:

      As I stated above, the intels and the minions got involved big time this time. The Pretorian Guard was to safeguard Rome. It destroyed it from within.

      I do find it fascinating that the left, which pretty much equated “intelligence service” with “Venerial disease”, for several generations now, has now grabbed on to them for validation.

      The culprits should be excised from service, denied clearances, etc. Ideally, impeached by Congress, en mass. The discord they sow, serves foreign enemies, whether they know it or not.

  15. Dave Hardin says:

    These people all live in their own Casion Royale. Even Fleming knew, you can not Trump the high card.

    Idiots.

  16. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    What is it that Ivan could have on oBaMa and BJ Clinton that would embarrass and potentially compromise either one? In Clinton’s case, he stuck cigars up Monica’s twat and was convicted of lying under oath, to name just two items. In oBaMa’s case, he wasn’t called Bath House Barry for nothing.

  17. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    If the lying liar media actually ever have a valid issue regarding Trump, at this point most of the country won’t believe it. It’s called the boy-who-called-wolf effect.

    • Commissar says:

      The conflicts of interest and the potential for him to use his office for personal gain and business interest are pretty valid.

      • 2/17 Air Cav says:

        Larsfact.

        • Commissar says:

          If it were Clinton with these conflicts of interest you would be outraged.

          That is a fact.

          At least I am consistent. I hate politicians that use their office for profit on BOTH sides of the aisle. I literally see them as traitors.

          Which is why I hated Hillary. And why I do not expect Trump to be anything more that a giant self serving shitbag.

          You are fine with corruption, and it turn out even stolen valor, as long as it is a republican doing it.

          • 2/17 Air Cav says:

            You tell me what I am fine with? At least this time you didn’t call me a Nazi or fascist. It’s not that you’re making progress towards reasonableness. It’s that the commie manual you work from points out that use of those terms is no longer conducive to winning hearts and minds.

          • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

            HEY YOU intermittently unintelligible pestiferous pail of parakeet poop, may I suggest you take a remedial English Composition or Grammar Course so you don’t sound like a pissed-off seventh grader when you come here to poop your britches in front of God and everyone? Yeah you, Commissar Poodle Poop! AS TO your saying that we’d be all over it if it were about Hitlery, B-HO or another liberal moonbat, I’m sure that Jonn would wait until he was sure that it was a true story versus your fellow bedwetting candyassed $10 latte-sipping Sparkle Ponies spreading it at full throttle while egging themselves in the face, oohhh SWEET, sweet schadenfreude!!!

          • MrFace says:

            Your boy, Bernie has his own conflicts of interest… So read up on your guy before starting to flaunt your “superior” intellect…

            http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/01/bernie_sanders_swamp_creature.html

            Feel the Bern, bitch.

          • GDContractor says:

            The stories about Trump and conflict of interest would have a lot more weight with me if the media could get the God damn story right. Who owns Trump Resorts and casinos? According to Rachel Maddow, Trump does. They are so eager to decry corruption and conflict of interest they have thrown responsible research out the window, and hence credibility.

          • Eden says:

            Once again, Lars, you are so predictable.

      • Sparks says:

        So then you are saying Hillary’s favors for donations and their Foundations acceptance of donations from unfriendly foreign entities in no way could have become conflicts of interest? Really.

        Kiss my ass in the county square!

      • Ex-PH2 says:

        Apparently, the Piuperdink a/k/a Lars ‘Commissar’ Taylor does not know that Mr. Trump already has rather widespread business interests that have been public knowledge for probably longer than the Piuperdink has been alive.

        This bit of information seems to be missing from the annals of those like the Piuperdink, who all seem to think that Trump just got here, when, in fact, he’s BEEN HERE for decades, you moron.

        Oh, yeah – using the Office for personal gain? Jimmy Carter. Bill Clinton. Lyndon Johnson (need I mention Johnson Space Center?) Yeah, Barack Obama – endorsing golf balls, golf clubs and bags and umbrellas and t-shirts and shooes.

        Wait for it: it’ll happen. I guarantee it.

  18. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    The commie’s mission is to keep pounding the lies and suggest the plausibility of certain outrageous statements made regarding the next President of the United States. It’s the selfsame tactic being employed by most of Big Media and it’s as transparent as Saran Wrap.

  19. Joe says:

    You guys must be so proud…….

    • The Other Whitey says:

      Don’t you have a rock that you’re supposed to be rubbing your junk against? All you ever do is troll and insult. Never once have you offered evidence of anything.

    • Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

      That’s an interesting perspective you bring to the table Joe, able to ascertain instantly the salient points of any articulated position on this discussion forum.

  20. Joe says:

    Now for the predictable rationalizations and intellectual contortions….

    • 2/17 Air Cav says:

      Hey Joe. What is it that you are struggling to say? It’s not coming across clearly. And, please, for the love of Mike, conserve those periods. You never know when you might need a few you carelessly expended.

      • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

        I suspect that “Joe” is either an underachieving undergraduate protege of Lars or some coffee shop flunkie disciple of him and his bullshit.

        • UpNorth says:

          This is Joe The Rock Climbing Hero of Colorado©. He’s been at TAH for years, off and on. Depending on when he’s doing time for sex with minor goats and beating off in the halls of the school he shows up at.

      • Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

        He’s not struggling he’s demonstrating the peak of his articulative abilities, each and every comment an incisive interpretation regarding the current topics of discussion.

        I tend to over use the ellipsis myself…but Joe’s use is quite masterful really, Based on all the contextual indications of his observations any further commentary would indeed be superfluous.

      • Ex-PH2 says:

        Joey should stop doing that. When Joey uses too many periods, some poor female member of the species misses her period and has to pay for a visit to the Ob-Gyn.

        Quit scaring women, Joey. Leave the periods alone!!!!

        • Joe says:

          ….rationalizations, intellectual contortions, to which I would add diversions……

          • 2/17 Air Cav says:

            Here’s what the Gettysburg Address would read if Lincoln had written it in Joe style:

            …score, years, continent, engaged, testing, endure, earth….

          • UpNorth says:

            We’d accuse you of “rationalizations, intellectual contortions, to which I would add diversions”, but everyone who’s posted on TAH, with the exception of Lars, knows that you have no concept of what anything ‘intellectual’ might be.
            And,the only contortions would be you trying to remove your head from your ass.

          • deckie says:

            I notice Joe that you love to come in and drop a lot of nonsense down but never back it up. Did they teach you that in college?

      • rgr769 says:

        He doesn’t understand that only one period goes at the end of a complete sentence and complete thought because so far as I have seen he never has posted either here.

    • 11B-Mailclerk says:

      Hey Zampolit!

      Joe here, is an example of someone who is a self-fart-sniffer. Note how it lacks a certain…. substance of thought. You can hear the 11 year old cycle of “POOT! Giggle! POOT! Giggle!”

      Contrast with LC and some other folks who post the contra view here.

      C’mon, Team Left! Dial up the reason and rhetoric! Sparring partners are much more interesting, and challenging, than punching bags.

  21. IDC SARC says:

    Da fukk?….oh….it’s LT

  22. HMCS(FMF) ret says:

    I have to admit that Trump has the balls to pimp slap the shit out of the media on their FALSE MEDIA claims… CNN was the focal point of his wrath at this mornings presser. I wonder how many more times he will go after the media for their bullshit during his time in office.

    As for John McCain and his role in this bullshit, he should step down or the voters in AZ need to recall his ass.

  23. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    Trump appeared before the media today and it was a scream. Some CNN asshole named Anaconda or something pretty much crapped himself. Trump refused his question but knucklehead kept trying. So, Trump had to verbally spank him. Now, CNN is aghast. If I’m not mistaken, the WH has say so on press creds. Here’s the vid link from today.

    http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/01/11/donald-trump-jim-acosta-cnn-fake-news.cnn

  24. OWB says:

    My PC Code Manual must be an old edition.

    What exactly is the issue here? Whether this event actually occurred obviously isn’t, so let’s assume that it did. Are Russian mattresses something special? Are Moscow whores a protected class? Have the new rules we learned in the 90’s about sex been rescinded?

    What a crock of festering crap. Nothing apparently happened and even if it did, so what? What people do at their own expense in private isn’t really my concern. My concern is the willingness of so many to accept a story as fact with no supporting evidence.

    Other than a bunch of delusional fools demanding attention, doesn’t look to me that a story exists, much less a news story.

    • 2/17 Air Cav says:

      You know how this works. Big Media are running with stories from blogs and other sources. The attribution gets overlooked by viewers/listeners/readers and later, when the BS flag is thrown, Big Media says they were merely relating what someone else reported. It’s a game. If CNN reports BS, MSNBC says, “According to a CNN report” or such thing. It’s nothing but a big game to them. They could care less about truth.

    • Eden says:

      Bottom line, it was hoax created as a joke at 4chan and fed to NeverTrump mouthpiece Rick Wilson (to punk him). He took it as gospel and ran with it to CNN and Buzzfeed. Then McCain got hold of it, also took it as gospel, and took it to the FBI.

  25. 11B-Mailclerk says:

    The goal, I suspect, is to get us to burn down our own house. Some folks that live in that house would prefer it to burn, than for the current top-floor to turn.

    Yup. Some folks will serve a foreign tyrant, to help wreck our Nation, rather than live with yet another four-to-eight year cycle of chest-thumping. (Cycle 45, and counting….)

    Personally, I think the folks that truly love this Nation, that trust in its principles, its Liberty, are far, far more likely to act with deadly seriousness should the curtain fall on this two plus century experiment in Liberty as Government.

    Be careful, those who prefer the house to burn. As has been said, fire is a -terrible- master.

  26. MrBill says:

    I hate this kind of yellow journalism. I don’t blame Trump for being pissed. He should be able to shake it off, however.

  27. Commissar says:

    If Trump were a democrat, and he used to be, most of you would believe this story of him liking golden showers in a heartbeat.

    I just find it interesting that for many on this board the most important piece of information in determining whether something is true or not is whether the person saying it is a liberal or a conservative.

    • GDContractor says:

      Underachieving grad student: heal thyself.

      Lars Taylor, you have zero credibility when it comes to criticizing confirmation bias. Dipshit.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      Lars, IMHO whatever degree you’re seeking is a waste of time and money. Your head is filled with so much gobbledygook horse shit Tis not even funny and if you truly believe what you spout you will NEVER make it in the private sector like the vast majority of TAH Regulars have. These days a Vo-Tech School Graduate has at least twice the income potential of a four year graduate whether it’s say, Plumbing, Electrical, Welding or otherwise, those Graduates possess skills that are IN DEMAND while four year college graduates are cheaper by the dozen, ditto with a number of Masters Degrees. If I was to do it all over again I’d go to school to be a Machinist and Millwright and I’d be making even more than I do now as well as have even better income security than I currently do.

      • rgr769 says:

        This guy (and I use the term loosely) is so brainwashed with his proglodyte bullshit that the only full-time employment he will ever have is as a gub’mint functionary of some type where civil service rules will prevent him from being fired. He will never be a productive member of society earning a living. So urging him to do something useful is a waste of keypad time.

        • Commissar says:

          Since I have consistently demonstrated that I hold potions on both sides of the political spectrum and do not regard EITHER party as being credible your notion that I am brainwashed reveals more about you ignorance than mine.

          There are few on this board that don’t mindlessly absorb whatever ridiculous piece of information that confirms their bias.

          The dissonance on this board is astounding. Literally, this board has the most brainwashed crowd of any right wing comment section I see and I read several of them.

          They even repeatedly regurgitate the ignorant mantra that I am a communist despite the fact that the economic model I think we should use has a market that is MORE free and MORE entrepreneurial than ours. Closer to true capitalism than our model and even the government model I support is more democratic, has more accountability, less corruption, and is more economically sound than the one we have.

          And it is not even close to communist.

          But that does not matter. Because LABELS and partisan tribalism matters more than actual facts on this board.

          Most of these guys are partisan before patriotic. To the point that they worship a Putin loving fascist and even admire Putin’s leadership style.

          They would rather we live in a fascist dictatorship than a representative democracy because then the conservatives would “win” the political struggle in America.

          • rgr769 says:

            Then go back to DU and HuffPuff where your fellow travelers hang out. First, anyone who supported the ol’ Socialist is no free marketeer. Second, you live at the UC Berzerkly, where nothing but progressivism and faux communism is tolerated.

          • Eden says:

            So typical of you, Lars, the pot calling the kettle black.

            No one forces you to come here. Since you hate it so much here, there is absolutely nothing keeping you from leaving and never returning. But like a moth, you evidently can’t help but be drawn to the flame of truth, even though you get singed every time you insist on flying into it at full tilt.

    • 11b-mailclerk says:

      You (and yours) got pwned by 4Chan, bigtime.

      Admit it.

      Now, you seek to deflect attention from that giant cartoon “sucker” floating over your head.

      You were (at one point) in the intel business, and you bit the bait. No, “hook line and sinker” you glommed it.

      Pwned.

      (Detail correction: he was elected as a Republican, not as a conservative. Slight bit of diff there)

      You werent very good at intel, were you Zampolit? I think not. You do not speak like any such I know.

      Pwned. By 4Chan, you were. Foolish you look.from that, distract you will not.

      • Commissar says:

        There is literally ZERO evidence that the source of any of this is 4chan. That is a complete alt-right conspiracy and bullshit misdirection.

        • 2/17 Air Cav says:

          The commie, Lars Taylor, was in fine form late last night. I’m sorry I missed his show. He used quite a few Larsfacts I see (e.g., “Hillary’s conflicts were a tiny fraction of Trumps.”) and he has now taken to reading minds to make a point (e.g., “The question Trump KNEW the reporter was trying to ask was….”) As usual, Lars resorted to his Berkeley training and commie mindset by denouncing others for labeling groups while, at the same time, calling us brainwashed and many of us fascists. He even invoked the discredited alt-right label, code for ‘deplorables.’ Sorry I missed his show for it was vintage Lars. Lars has a penchant for defending the indefensible. In that sense, he is, like all communists, both a romantic and a monster.

        • Ex-PH2 says:

          Ohh, my God!!!

          4Chan SAID the story about the hotel room incident was entirely fiction, done for the sole purpose of annoying Leftards everywhere.

          So the Piuperdink is disputing what 4Chan said??

          Denial of reality is a serious problem, Piuperdink. Get some help with your problem, quick, before it’s too late!!!!

          • 2/17 Air Cav says:

            I wonder how Lars Taylor came to enlist. I mean, a guy like him sees soldiers as expendable pawns of the ruling class. In a capitalist economy, viewed through the commie lens, war advances the interest of the capitalists. In the military service, there are troops who do the dirty work. These comprise the proletariat. The officer corps is the bourgeoisie who enjoy special rewards and privileges. Next up the Marxian chain are the capitalists, the owners of the war machine who may risk capital but neither life nor limb. That’s the view. Blood for oil and all of that. So, why, I wonder would our resident commie enlist? Did he come in from the fog at Berkeley? Was he enlightened during or after his stint?

          • Ex-PH2 says:

            That is a good question. But he did say some time back that until he signed up, he really hadn’t had much in the way of real-world work experience.

            I do find it very disturbing that he refuses to believe that a stated disclaimer, i.e., “this story is fiction”, is real. That doesn’t make any sense.

            If you recall Jonathan Swift’s essay ‘A Modest Proposal’, it was a satirical essay meant to stir the populace out of their 18th century coma, and it worked. It was written well enough to be believable, but it was nothing but fiction, meant to draw attention to a very real problem.

            In this case, not believing a disclaimer on fictional ‘news’ stories means that there really is a deep level of disconnect from reality with Lars Taylor, deeper than any of us have realized.

            Maybe we should feel a little sorry for him.

            But did you ever read that Duffel Blog article about detainees at Girmo getting GI Bill Rights? Mitch McConell fell for that and started a congressional investigation over it.

            I would love to get that reaction to something I wrote.

          • LC says:

            4chan says lots of things – it’s like the proverbial million monkeys on a million keyboards. That said, I kept an open mind originally, but now I’m heavily leaning towards the 4chan poster being full of it, or it being an utter, unspecific -really, the original 4chan post wasn’t very detailed- coincidence.

            Basically, their version of events claimed it went from Wilson to McMullin to McCain, and not only has Wilson denied any connection to this, but it leaves out the role of Steele – who, I’ll point out, is a highly regarded professional and former head of the Russia desk at MI6. The timeline is also problematic, since the 4chan user hasn’t said when he told Wilson this info, but only posted about it after the story broke… yet the intelligence document about this was dated in late summer.

            Since I’m considered a liberal here, though, let me post a conservative article that covers some of these points:
            https://heatst.com/politics/no-4chan-didnt-make-buzzfeeds-intelligence-report-on-donald-trump/

            Now, is it possible a 4chan user sent Wilson a message, which he denies, but that message somehow found its way into a network of contacts by a well-connected ex-MI6 officer to filter back into a report that eventually gets the attention of the media? Yes, possible. But given the lack of a known connection between Steele and Wilson, the lack of definitive information in the 4chan post, and Steele’s considerable experience and reputation, I really think the benefit of the doubt should go to the ex-MI6 officer, not the anonymous person on 4chan.

            Let’s see what unfolds over the next few weeks.

  28. Commissar says:

    What is exactly did CNN report on this issue that was not absolutely true?
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html

    The Trump team is misdirecting and you guys are being duped like cats chasing a laser pointer.

    • ex-OS2 says:

      CNN reports news?

    • Eden says:

      “The allegations were presented in a two-page synopsis that was appended to a report on Russian interference in the 2016 election. The allegations came, in part, from memos compiled by a former British intelligence operative, whose past work US intelligence officials consider credible. The FBI is investigating the credibility and accuracy of these allegations, which are based primarily on information from Russian sources, but has not confirmed many essential details in the memos about Mr. Trump.”

      CNN got duped by something that was MADE UP out of whole cloth by 4chan trolls to make NeverTrump mouthpiece Rick Wilson look stupid. Wilson bought the story, hook, line, and sinker, and gave it to the CIA, who also took the bait, and put it in their official classified intelligence report on Russian involvement in the election. They apparently concluded that the Russians planned to blackmail Trump with this story, but the whole thing is a HOAX from start to finish!

      And yet you believe the CNN report. How stupid can you be, Lars? Yet again, you’re so predictable.

      • Commissar says:

        Actually, they confirmed that this briefing CNN reported happened. And CNN did not report the content of the briefing. The president confirmed the briefing occurred as did the Trump team. What is unknown is the content of the briefing.

        CNN did not report the content. The content was leaked by BUZZFEED not CNN.

        The CNN report is accurate. It is the Buzzfeed report that is controversial and that has not been confirmed.

        And there is LITERALLY ZERO EVIDENCE that 4 chan made this up or had anything to do with it. That is an alt-right fabrication.

        Right now there is ZERO public evidence the report is true and zero public evidence the report is fake.

        So when we talk about people being stupid for believing something perhaps you should consider what evidence you have of your belief.

        I personally have yet to make any decision as to what I believe with regard to the report. What I KNOW to be true is that CNN’s report is factually accurate. A briefing detailing that the Russians may have compromising information on Trump DID occur. And both Trump and President Obama attended that briefing.

        That is the only thing that has been CONFIRMED to be true.

        • rgr769 says:

          The Clinton News Network has been shilling for the DNC, Hilliary, and 0bama since the beginning of the election cycle. Some of their hacks even submitted their stories to the Dhimmicrat party and campaign for approval. We watched their commentators/anchors breaking down when it was apparent that Trump would win. Only suckers like you gobble up their drivel.

        • nbcguy54ACTUAL says:

          So the fact that a dude with the same name as one of Trump’s lawyers was reported to be in the Prague doing something, and CNN and others ran that it WAS Trump’s lawyer, when he was actually in the US at the time is not “fake news”??

        • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

          Pooooor Lars couldn’t even play hide and seek when he was a kid because no one ever even remotely wanted to find him.

  29. Silentium Est Aureum says:

    Memo to Larsie:

    As your hero Drunk (Dead) Ted said, “It’s not the evidence but the seriousness of the charge.” This was also used by Harry Reid back in 2012 when he claimed, without any sort of evidence, that Romney was a tax cheat. Or the NYT claiming the same thing re: Trump.

    IOW, dipshit, liberal modus operandi is just to throw baseless wild accusations out there and run with them as if they were fact, despite any evidence to the contrary.

    Congrats on you ability to suspend all rational thought and reason, though. You will be rewarded well when the revolution comes. Typically that reward includes a cigarette and blindfold.

  30. Joe says:

    “That ‘former British intelligence operative, whose past work US intelligence officials consider credible’ was being paid by Trump’s political opponents…” Half-truth. They stopped paying him and he kept working anyway because the informations was so disturbing and had such political implications. More logical contortions, rationalizations, and backflips – anything, no matter how depraved, as long as you can say “my guy won”.

    • Eden says:

      Yawn. Yet another duped liberal. That “report” didn’t come from a “former British intelligence operative.” It was a HOAX by some 4chan trolls, perpetrated on NeverTrump mouthpiece Rick Wilson, who ran it to the CIA. As a result, the CIA, Buzzfeed, CNN, and the entire liberal world got punked, including you and Lars.

    • ex-OS2 says:

      Donald Trump is going to be your President.

      I am curious how the Twitchy Bitch of Benghazi is doing these days.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      So you know ‘the guy’ personally, right, Joe? Okay, sure. I believe. I also believe that some day, if I spend enough money on it, I’ll win big prize in the Lotto.
      Natter on, stoopid. You make great entertainment.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      Joe, does your ass ever get jealous of your mouth because of the volume of SHIT coming from it? Your Birth Certificate is a Letter of Apology from a Condom Manufacturer.

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