Phillip Lorne Lovin; phony Marine colonel

| January 12, 2017 | 101 Comments

Someone sent us their work on this fellow, Phillip Lorne Lovin of New Braunfels, TX. He pretends to be a Marine Corps colonel around the country and he hands out flags from 9-11. Apparently, he passes himself off as one of the first responders on 9-11, folks tell me that’s not true either, but I only do military records.

He tells some folks how the lessons he learned about life he learned as a soldier at Fort Jackson. All of you Marines who are soldiers and at Fort Jackson, raise your hands.

Yes, well he was in the Marine Corps, for about 10 weeks, hardly enough time for the rest of us plebs to make colonel. He was a private first class (E-2);

But he does wear goofy dork-identification hats;

Category: Phony soldiers

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  1. Claw says:

    And let the jokes about him being named “Phildo Lovin” begin.

  2. Claw says:

    By the Julian Date Calendar, his actual active duty spanned 51 days.

  3. IDC SARC says:

    Appearing to have been dropped from recruit training was all part of the master plan for this elite shadow warrior and the brave men that served under his command.

    It is a well known secret.

    • Deplorable B Woodman says:

      “It is a well know secret.”
      (snicker) (snort) (chuckle) (guffaw!!) (ROFLMFAO!!)

      I am easily amused.

    • Mick says:

      I’d like to know if he’s also been claiming to be Force Recon and/or a sniper.

      I’ll bet that he has.

      • R. McCorley says:

        One source states that he claimed he was a Force Recon Colonel who had received a Navy Cross in Beirut. He showed a scar on his stomach, claimed he had been blown up, stitched himself up and saved his troops.

        • Mick says:

          Shack! Just as expected.

          Well, that pretty much covers most of the items on the Stolen Valor checklist, doesn’t it? The only things missing now are highly classified military records that are permanently sealed at the direction of POTUS, a motorcycle, a leather vest covered in poser bling, and a POW/MIA doo-rag. Oh, and a claim that he was held as a POW by Hezbollah in Beirut in a ‘tiger cage’. And also a service dog to help him cope with his raging case of The PTSD.

          Yessiree. Force Recon + blown up in Beirut/stitched himself up + saved his troops + Navy Cross = Classic Stolen Valor Poser Assclown.

          Thanks for the info.

        • Skyjumper says:

          By the looks of him, that wasn’t a battle scar on his stomach, probably more like a stretch mark.

      • M. Lovin says:

        I am his daughter and I can tell you for a fact that he has claimed all of these things my entire life.
        It took me a long time to figure out he is a pathological liar since he was feeding me his bullshit my whole life.

        • OWB says:

          You have our deepest sympathy.

          It makes many of us angry that stolen valor continues to be mischaracterized as a victimless crime. You are proof to the contrary.

          Blessings to you as you make your way in spite of his lies.

        • Frankie Cee says:

          Lying to a stranger is bad enough, but lying to family? I cannot comprehend what makeup a person would have that could do that. I wonder if his shortcomings stopped at being a military phony, or was he a total shitbag.
          Lying to family, for crying out loud.

  4. Carlton G. Long says:

    Only partisan politics kept him from being a pretend general.

  5. Claw says:

    It must have been those extra 14 days on active duty that put him over the top to Colonel.

    Remember, Robert Danny “Maggot” Hay was only able to vault up to Gunnery Sergeant in 37 days active duty.

    So this turd was a real speed demon, going from E-2 to O-6 in only 51 days.

  6. Just An Old Dog says:

    We of the illustrious Corps do not consider him a Marine, as he never finished basic training.
    It may be a bit confusing, since he is listed as a PFC (E-2). The chances are he was a contract PFC.
    Contract PFCS, while in boot camp are addressed as Private, Shithead,or Shit stain like every other recruit and do not wear the rank until they graduate. However they do get paid as a PFC and unless they have a disciplinary action if they are discharged have that rank on their DD214

    • Marine 0331 says:

      Ahh Private Shitstain. I always loved that one but only heard it from buddies when telling bootcamp stories. My DIs, SSgt Krause, and Sgt’s Ishmael and Mazenko told us that the rank of Private was a respectable rank in THEIR beloved Corps and as such only referred to us as lowly scum-sucking recruits until we graduated!! LOL

  7. Hack Stone says:

    I count 50 days of active duty. Regardless, if 50 or 51 days of active duty is all that it takes to make Colonel, what about us guys that actually served a full enlistment, and then some?

    • Claw says:

      Hack, You could be correct on the days. It has been over 35 years since I monkeyed around with a Julian Date Calendar, so when I subtracted the days, I could have forgotten to subtract one after the count. I used to have that rule down pat, but CRS will rear its ugly head at times.

      I guess it should look like this:

      15 July is day 196.
      04 Sep is day 247.

      247 minus 196 is 51, less one equals 50.

      Thanx for jolting my memory.

  8. Hack Stone says:

    Good Lovin Gone Bad. He is definitely in some bad company.

  9. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    I’m sure he’ll fuck up yet again and get plenty of “Lovin'” from Bubba, Thor and the rest of his cell block! Another walking bucket of cockroach shit pretending to have actually accomplished something, fuckin’ Dingleberry is right there next to Giduck with 50 days of training, all he’s missing is a Ninja Combat Shovel!

  10. Wilted Willy says:

    Did this fuckwad really torch his own house? He really likes to double down on the stupid, doesn’t he? Welcome to Google fame you shitstain!!

  11. Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

    Look at that fuckin’ hat!!!

    If that doesn’t say cocksucker on the label I’m going to be surprised….

    Is anyone fooled by half bald jerkoffs wearing a hat? If you’re almost bald shave your fucking head and stand tall and proud for god’s sake…don’t wear a douchebag hat….but I guess if you are a lying, sack of shit, stolen valor cocksucker like this piece of shit you have to have a douchebag hat….

    So was he burning those holes in the flags himself and then pretending they were from NYC on 9-11? Smells like fraud to me, hope he gets arrested.

    • Forest Green says:

      Ok, I’m gonna toss my fedora, but I insist on keeping my Porkpie

      • Mick says:

        Forest Green:

        I was hoping that you’d show up for this one this morning. I don’t even know where to start with this poser assclown.

        Too many phony Marines this week.

        Still waiting for our ‘buddy’ to appear as the subject of one of these posts. It’s only a matter of time.

        As an afterthought, has our ‘buddy’ spent any time down in Texas? I swear that he could have mentored this guy in the finer points of Stolen Valor bullshit.

  12. Graybeard says:

    Phillip Lorne Lovin spends his time watching tubers float down the river and fantasizing about the guys – reportedly.
    Phillip Lorne Lovin is a liar – and I say that as a Texan to a wannabe man in Texas. That means I am willing to shoot you to make my point.
    Phillip Lorne Lovin is delusional.
    Mit Phillip Lorne Lovin, in Neu Braunfels ist der Lieben nicht Schon.
    Mit Phillip Lorne Lovin, in Neu Braunsfels ist der Lieben scheisse, fur Phillip Lorne Loving scheisse ist.

    Phillip Lorne Lovin – in case you ain’t gettin’ the message, in Texas we take a dim view of varmints like you, you lying mangy yellow-bellied thievin’ parasite-ridden coyote.

  13. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    He was a Marine at Fort Jackson. Me, I was there with the Navy. Why, I remember one puddle that was so deep, we used it for depth-charge practice. Yes, I remember it well.

  14. Mick says:

    Why don’t these reporters/journalists ever check the backgrounds of these Stolen Valor assclowns before they publish their nonsensical bullshit stories? If this idiot was actually a retired USMC Colonel, he’d have a DOD retired ID card. It would take all of at least 5 seconds for a reporter to ask him to show it and then look at it.

    And if he’s been running his poser mouth as a ‘guest speaker’ at public events, I’m puzzled as to why no actual veterans in the audience have apparently called him out on his bullshit. Most of us here on Team TAH can spot/smell a poser a mile away, and none of these poser assclowns are that good that they can fool actual veterans for long.

    I really, REALLY hate this Stolen Valor bullshit.

  15. ChipNASA says:

    Ass gobbling sphincter tonguing cock eating butt fucking catching not pitching cum dumpster bitch tits.

  16. Did he get issued a baby blue suit to wear home from Boot Camp, like Jan-Michael Vincent’s character in the movie, “BABY BLUE MARINE”?

  17. Graybeard says:

    I am hoping that the North Carolina and New Braunsfels newspapers have been alerted to the fact that this misbegotten lying mangy yellow-bellied thievin’ parasite-ridden coyote sired by a diseased prairie dog is an untrustworthy stolen valor liar.

    (A tip of the cowboy hat to API for the extension of the identifying characteristics of the subject of today’s discourse.)

  18. Skippy says:

    Another slow speed washout
    Cocksucker
    Enjoy your Google fame

  19. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    Q: What’s the difference between Phillip Lorne Lovin and a fresh coyote turd?

    A: The coyote turd quits stinking in a day or two.

  20. lily says:

    The only Colonel I like is Colonel Sanders of KFC. He would kick this guy’s ass.

  21. Headhuntersix says:

    WTF … I live in New Braunfels now. I hadn’t run across this guy but we have another dude who claims to be “navalspecwarfare class of ’77 ” says it real fast. Reading TAH has me jaded so I’m pretty sure he’s full of it. I’ll make him famous here if I get a chance.

    • Graybeard says:

      HH6- did you see Joseph Williams comment above? Since you are in the County, the DA may take a lead from you. I’m in another county so I don’t know if the DA would take much interest if I reported him.

      Assuming the scumbag is still there.
      Scanning the comments below, there may be more than one crime this jerk is committing – SOP for the SV’s

  22. Claw says:

    Seeing him in that hat reminds me of that other turd with a topper, Jay Hemenway.

    Member him? Pink shirt,ear studs, and a flavor saver?

  23. Carlton G. Long says:

    All this time and the obvious “McLovin” joke just now hit me.

  24. R. McCorley says:

    For more reactions to his claims, search “Anyone know Phillip Lovin, Greenville.”

    • ChipNASA says:

      TAH has ripped a few phonys a major asshole on TOPIX boards.

      LMFAO !
      HA

    • MONGO says:

      MMMmmm, MONGO think Phillip Lorne Lovin fuck himself and will keep doing so.

    • HMCS(FMF) ret says:

      From the TOPIX site – June of last year:

      “Phil Lovin is currently in New Braunfels, TX frauduently posing as a counselor/psychologist. He once held a license from the Texas Department of Health Services as a Licensed Chemical Dependence Counselor Intern, his license was suspended in 2011. He is offering services at a discounted rate avoiding filing with insurance, obviously they would refuse paying someone without a valid license. What is his motivation is for fraudulently misrepresenting himself to people? Is it for money, sex, status or all three? He drives a black Mercedes Benz with personalized plates “DR P”. He is well dressed, spoken and seems very polite. He carrys a pistol under his vest reportedly without a concealed to carry permit. He has a history of criminal activity. Avoid this person and tell your friends and family to beware.”

      Sounds like a real dangerous nutcase… almost Bernathian in behavior.

  25. Mick says:

    According to this article from 2010, this guy hasn’t limited his phony claims to just being a Marine Colonel. He’s also apparently been falsely posing as a New York City Firefighter for years, and he was busted by a retired Captain from the NYC Fire Department. He’s also named as a former pastor of a Baptist Church, and he also served as the chaplain for a Volunteer Fire Department.

    ‘Former Dayton pastor pleads guilty to arson’

    http://www.chron.com/neighborhood/cleveland/news/article/Former-Dayton-pastor-pleads-guilty-to-arson-9434897.php

    ‘A former Dayton pastor and fire department chaplain has pleaded guilty to arson and insurance fraud after burning down his own house in Kerrville, Texas.

    According to records obtained from the 198th District Court in Kerr County, Phillip Lorne Lovin, 47, of San Antonio, pleaded guilty to arson and insurance fraud on July 9.

    Lovin is a former pastor of Midway Baptist Church in Dayton and also served as the chaplain for the Westlake Volunteer Fire Department in 2008.

    According to court documents, Lovin burned his own house down in Harper, Texas, after placing flares, gas, hay and an old, dried-out Christmas tree in his attic and setting it on fire. He filed an insurance claim on the incident afterward.

    On September 8, 2008, Lovin participated in a flag retirement ceremony and 9-11 memorial service along with State Rep. John Otto at the Westlake Volunteer Fire Department fire station.

    Lovin told the Dayton News at that time that he was a former New York City firefighter who worked during the recovery efforts following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in New York.

    The Dayton News was notified last month by former New York City Fire Department Capt. William Groneman that Lovin has been masquerading as a former New York City Firefighter for years and giving speeches at public events during September 11 remembrance ceremonies.

    Groneman first learned about Lovin in August of 2006 when he read about him in a local Kerrville newspaper where Lovin was photographed standing before a display of firefighting memorabilia and photos at the Rio Ten movie theater in Kerrville. Oliver Stone’s film World Trade Center was playing at the theater.

    “I thought to myself, ‘What are the chances that two of us (NYC firefighters) were in Kerrville?’” said Groneman, who at that time was living in Kerrville also. “I went to the movie theater and looked at the gear and knew that it was fake.”

    When Groneman realized that the fire gear was not the same type of equipment used by NYC firefighters during 9-11, he became suspicious and began to look into Lovin’s background through Internet searches.

    He also contacted the Ingram Volunteer Fire Department with his suspicions. The department was planning a flag ceremony at their local high school. Lovin was scheduled to speak at the event and give a flag that supposedly had flown over Ground Zero to the school.

    Groneman learned through his research and contacting individuals across the country that Lovin has been claiming to be a New York City firefighter for years and has participated in several September 11 memorial events across the country.

    According to newspaper articles that Groneman collected, Lovin has also given away dozens of American flags to different organizations, schools and even military bases across the nation. The flags were supposedly flown over the Ground Zero debris site during the months following the terrorist attacks.

    Lovin has also been affiliated with an organization named the Ground Zero Association, according to Groneman. This organization has nominated Lovin for awards across the country for his supposed heroism during 9-11.

    The association allegedly gave Lovin dozens of battered and torn American flags that were flown over the World Trade Center site and were usually presented by Lovin at public ceremonies in which he spoke of his experiences during 9-11.

    “He said the Ground Zero Association gave him these flags,” said Groneman. “He was the Ground Zero Association.”

    Groneman believes that Lovin created the organization name and used it as a front to nominate himself for awards and to solicit speaking engagements across the country.

    The Dayton News could not find a nonprofit organization in New York that matched the description of an organization affiliated with volunteers who assisted following 9-11. However; an interior design firm was located in New York that formerly operated under the name Ground Zero Association but later changed its name.

    Groneman is a former captain who retired from the NYC Fire Department.

    “What outrages me so much is for him to go around parading himself as a hero,” said Groneman about Lovin. “One of my friends died leaving three children behind. I had many friends that died there.”

    Groneman said that unfortunately many people around the country pretend to be former New York City firefighters who assisted during 9-11 and that it is not illegal to claim to be one.

    A spokesperson for the New York City Fire Department told the Dayton News that no one by the name of Phillip Lorne Lovin has ever worked for their department.

    Groneman said that he has followed Lovin’s actions for years and hopes that others will not be fooled by his stories of supposed heroism now that he has pleaded guilty to two first degree felonies.

    “If he put half the effort into doing something legitimate, he would be totally successful,” said Groneman.

    Lovin was sentenced to 10 years of probation and 200 hours of community service for the arson charge and ordered to pay $2058.75 restitution for the insurance fraud charge.’

    Hopefully The Other Whitey will see this and roll in hot with some thoughts/commentary from the Firefighter perspective.

    • RGR 4-78 says:

      Our Fire Department has a drop off for tattered and worn American Flags; they are passed along to Boy Scout troops or the local VFW for appropriate disposal.

      I wonder if this is where he is getting his flags, from a local Fire Department.

      He is a shitbag.

      • R. McCorley says:

        In a newspaper article in the Hendersonville Times News back in Nov. 2001, they gave Lovin a “laurel” for his “service at Ground Zero.” In the next couple of line they gave a “dart” to someone who had stolen a number of American flags from the front of houses. You do the math! When was the last time you heard of a rash of stolen U.S. flags?

  26. Combat Historian says:

    Jeebus, between this POS and that scumbag michael bocci, it’s just been a hell of a week wading through this hip-deep mess of SV bullshit and garbage…I need a drink (sigh)…

  27. The Other Whitey says:

    Yep. Shitbag.

    9/11 claims can be difficult to vet, since the Pentagon and especially WTC saw responses from police and fire departments all over the place, including USAR teams from LA County Fire, CalFire (then still called CDF), and Miami-Dade Fire, to name a few. Some were requested, others, including a couple of engines from Chicago, just got on the road and got to work when they reached Manhattan. The WTC also got large numbers of volunteers from construction/demolition companies, heavy equipment contractors, and people off the street who pitched in. Hell, Steve Buscemi of “Boardwalk Empire” fame pulled his gear out of the attic and rejoined his old FDNY engine, dropping off the Hollywood radar for weeks. Of course, Buscemi explicitly asked people who recognized him not to make a big deal of it, though a couple of pictures were taken and can still be found on the internet.

    That’s not even going into all the National Guard, Reserve, and active-duty personnel who pitched in. The last two WTC survivors to be found alive were located by a Marine.

    Unless somebody like that fucktard Suprun specifically claims to have been a member of a specific fire or police agency, it can be difficult to disprove one way or another. On the other hand, most of these shitheads want all the phony glory they can get, so they’ll probably make that kind of claim.

  28. 1610desig says:

    This fecal sample reminds me of that idiot Supron, the lying heroic first responding faithless Texas elector…really, Texans, I expect this more of Floridians…can’t you simply hang these dudes from an oak tree?

  29. Hey, I just now thought of something.

    Maybe, under certain circumstances, a sort of “Stolen Valor” IS permitted.

    When I arrived in the old Republic of Viet Nam, we each were issued a wallet sized card listing the, “STANDING ORDERS, ROGER’S RANGERS”, as stated by Major Robert Rogers in 1759 during the French and Indian War.

    Standing Order Number Four stated:
    __________________________________

    “Tell the truth about what you see and what you do.

    There is an Army depending on us for correct information.

    You can lie all you please when you tell other folks about the Rangers, but don’t never lie to a Ranger or officer.”
    __________________________________

    Here are the URLs for my “VIET NAM” album at the YAHOO FLICKR web site, where you can view my personal copy of, “STANDING ORDERS, ROGER’S RANGERS”, that was issued to me when I arrived in the old Republic of Viet Nam:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/writesong/687079574/in/album-72157600591053018/lightbox/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/writesong/686217429/in/album-72157600591053018/lightbox/

    So, what do you think?

    Is it okay to lie about what we did during our military service, so long as we don’t never lie to a Ranger or officer, and our Army ain’t depending on us for correct information?

    By the way, does the United States Army still issue those wallet sized cards of, “STANDING ORDERS, ROGER’S RANGERS”, to troops being deployed?

  30. R. McCorley says:

    He’s still at it! This is the latest posting on TOPIX:

    Tuesday Aug 22
    As of 2017, he was applying to churches outside of Texas under the name Dr. Philip Liam Levin. His resume is filled with churches that don’t exist and references that aren’t real people. He’s still making claims to be a 9/11 firefighter, marine colonel in Desert Storm, and a trained hostage negotiator for the state of Texas.

  31. Brian Walsh says:

    I had the misfortune of knowing this fraud years ago. Back in 1986 or 87, I was in college and working part-time as a security guard at a local hospital. Lovin happened to be at the hospital one evening, teaching a martial arts class to a group of people with eating disorders. Initially, I thought he was legit. I was interested in martial arts at the time, so I struck up a conversation with him. He told me that he taught “Iga Rhu Ninjutsu” and asked if I would be interested in taking classes.

    I started taking classes, but he never really taught any martial arts at all. Shortly thereafter, he started making claims that he was a former Green Beret and was Ranger qualified. He made up outrageous stories about “missions” that he had been on, etc. This guy is only 3 or 4 years older than me, so I started doing the math. There was no way he could have done all he claimed in that short amount of time. To top it off, he claimed that he had been a “hitman”, and had committed murders in Del Rio, El Paso and around San Antonio. He claimed that he had several FN-FAL rifles, etc., but I never saw them. He did try to sell me a Llama .45 acp, but I didn’t buy it. I was afraid it was stolen.

    I reported all of this to the FBI, in Asheville, NC but they didn’t seem very interested in him at the time. I guess they knew he was full of shit and figured he wasn’t worth looking into. I didn’t have any more to do with him after he told me all of this.

    Years later, I was a Sergeant in the NC National Guard. My company was being deployed to Afghanistan. During the time we were gearing up and getting ready to head out for Fort Bragg, Lovin showed up at our Detachment and gave them a US flag, claiming that he brought it back from the World Trade Center. He also claimed that he was a retired Marine Corps Colonel. I wasn’t at the Detachment at the time. Otherwise, I would have blistered him in front of everyone. I just happened to find out about it from one of my Lieutenants. You could have knocked him over with a feather when I told him about Lovin and his lies.

    I imagine he is still on probation for his arson conviction. It seems that his probation officer would really be digging into his past. Apparently, they aren’t looking into him at all.

  32. R. McCorley says:

    Jonn,

    Can you send my email address to Brian Walsh? I would like to communicate with him on this subject

  33. R. McCorley says:

    Phony Marine Phillip Lovin, who is also an FDNY Sept. 11 impostor, and a convicted arsonist, and now calls himself Phil Levin has posted on his Facebook page a USMC officer’s cover as his profile picture. This is on the Facebook page of Phil Levin.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      A Convicted Arsonist? Why the hell didn’t he end up being a part of Bubba & Thor’s cell block harem for that?

      • R. McCorley says:

        He received 10 years supervised probation, plus fines, court fees and community service. Just the guy you would want doing something for your community. I believed it was deemed that he lost his home, which he torched, without receiving the insurance, which is why he torched the house, was his punishment. Along with the arson he pleaded guilty to insurance fraud.

        He is still making false military claims, such as being a combat sniper.

        You would think that using a false name would attract some attention on the part of a probation officer.

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