Jerry Lee Scripter; phony hero

| February 3, 2017 | 144 Comments

A retired First Sergeant friend was at Living Memorial Sculpture Garden in Siskiyou County, CA for a Veterans’ Day event when he spotted Jerry Lee Scripter;

So, the retired 1SG got a hold of Jerry Lee’s last DD214 for a deployment to Bosnia with 3/160th Infantry of the California National Guard as a cook. He has almost 22 years of inactive service and less than 5 years on active duty including time in the Air Force.

His records don’t support the fact that he’s wearing a Soldier’s Medal and a Air Medal, among a pile of other stuff, not to mention the cowboy hat and the oak leaf on the Good Conduct Medal. And what’s with the baggie?

Category: Phony soldiers

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  1. Ret_25X says:

    I misread his name as “sphincter” at first. LOL

  2. Green Thumb says:

    A career man.

    I love the red cord. Nice touch. Seems anyone can wear them these days.

    Dude looks all interested in his pone as well.

    I wonder who he is calling? All-Points Logistics, maybe.

    What a tool.

  3. HMCS(FMF) ret says:

    Just a little bit of embellishment there…Jerry Lee Scripter, aka: Jerry Lee Sphincter.

  4. Eden says:

    A plastic bag over your fake rack? REALLY, dude?!?!?

  5. jarhead says:

    Reminds me of the old days when we called them “Lifers”. That was before I eventually learned the meaning of the term “respect”. Anyway, this guy has so many hash marks that his appeared to have started from birth. In the lower picture, he even appears to have to have made room on his right sleeve for at least two more. The baggie tells us he got the special deal during Christmas from Tyrone’s Military Wannabee Hero’s shop where with every purchase of a dozen hash marks you’d get a free bag of medals. So he was a cook, still serving shit to the public.

    • Claw says:

      Yep, he is wearing three too many service hash marks. (should only be seven, not ten)

      As far as those bars on his right sleeve, they are the Army’s Overseas Service Bars, which he is authorized (on the DD214) to wear two of them based on his 12 month tour to Kosovo.

      Those OSB’s and his rank of SSG are about the only things on his uniform that are correct.

      • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

        He’s 8TFU with his rank being on his shirt collar, according to AR 670-1 NCOs are to wear their shirt rank via shoulder boards on their shirt, brass collar rank is only for E4 and below.

      • Sandman says:

        The hash bars on his right sleeve denote combat time, not overseas time. Each bar represents 6 months in a combat zone.

      • Bobo says:

        When did they start giving out Overseas Service Bars for Kosovo? That is as bad as those AFRICOM combat patches.

        • Lily says:

          You are obviously ignorant. Read what special forces said about Kosova in the book “masters of chaos”. One SF guy said Kosovo was worse for him than Afghanistan. In General Ricardo Sanchez Biography he said Kosovo was a smaller version of Iraq. I was in Kosovo in the earlier days and did much of the same things infantry did in Iraq.

          Now this phony got to Kosovo at a time it wasn’t so bad.

          • lily says:

            In the book Masters of Chaos: The Secret history of U.S. Special Forces on Page 344 a Special Forces soldier who was in Afghanistan and Kosovo says this:

            “Afghanistan had not been a source of mental anguish to Randy because of the memory of Americans killed on September 11 had fueled the cause. Randy also understood the code of the warrior culture, which is governed by guns but also by certain rules. He spent his SF career in the world. It was the killing in Kosovo, which was not fighting but slaughter, the veneer of civilization stripped away to reveal a savage order, that haunted him. “It sank into my soul” said Randy.

            https://www.amazon.com/reader/1586483528?_encoding=UTF8&query=randy%20kosovo#reader_1586483528

    • Carlton G. Long says:

      Old boy has enough french fries on his sleeve to open his own Burger King.

  6. Club Manager says:

    The dipshit has the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award on his rack when it should be on the other side with the unit awards. He has a bronze star device on his National Defense Service Medal so he must be legit. I strongly suspect the baggie is to protect his investment in the ribbons from all of the bullshit that comes out of his pie hole. Just want to walk up, rip the rack from his blouse and smack the shit out of him.

    • Eden says:

      Not only that, but his ribbons are out of order.

    • Dennis - not chevy says:

      His ribbons are a total circle jerk of a job; upside down OLC’s, way out of order, etc. What is that patch on his left shoulder, is he such a big noise that he was not assigned to a specific unit?
      What in the name of all that’s Army Green is that patch on hat?
      I say if you’re retired and wear an old fatigue shirt or jacket, as long as it’s clean and in good repair, I’ve no problem. If you wear the uniform, especially a service dress, wear it correctly. You only make a fool of yourself and embarrass others by mixing, matching, and editing to make yourself look like a big noise.

  7. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    OH. FUCK. NO, A Cav Stetson and it appears he’s wearing Engineer Castle on his left lapel for starters. The hash marks on the left sleeve are one for every three years and on the left you get one mark for every six months overseas, so he’s claiming thirty years of service with one year overseas. HE and his uniform, especially the “Fruit Salad” are MORE ATE UP than a chocolate dildo in a crowded gay bar on Valentine’s day! Him being a Cook, I’m sure he dishes out BULLSHIT soup sandwiches at Mach 3.

  8. JimV says:

    I count 11 service stripes on his uniform. 33+ years? Really?

    What does the red cord stand for?

    I think he is a retard.

  9. 26Limabeans says:

    A baggie over his salad? WTF?
    I’m surprised he doesn’t have shower cap over that hat.

  10. Combat Historian says:

    As others have noted, his fucked-up uniform and plastic-baggyed fruit rack says all you need to know about this douche…

  11. spd0302 says:

    His FB posts are open to comments, and if you check out his friends….creepy old man syndrome.

  12. OldManchu says:

    Always waterproof your gear… uhh… and your ribbons.

  13. Ex-PH2 says:

    Dickless wonder?

    Lots of fruit salad on that ribbon rack. Must be related to being a Cook. Does he have nuts in that, too?

  14. Graybeard says:

    Another example of how the world will never run out of idiots.

    My grandfather served honorably as a baker in Europe in WWI. No shame in doing your part to keep the guys on the front lines fighting.

    This idiot? – well he is over in Lars’ la-la land.

  15. AnotherPat says:

    He can’t make up his mind as to which Branch of the Army he belongs to (QMC, AR, CAV).

    The QM Branch I can understand since he was a Food Guru.

    The other two: Am speculating he was assigned or attached to an Armor or Cav unit while on AD and feels he is entitled to wear not only those emblems, but also the Stetson with Crossed Sabers.

    • Stacy0311 says:

      Officer branch insignia over the right pocket? WTF?
      AFRM medal with “M” device? That gets numerals and bronze, silver or gold hourglass, NOT an oakleaf.

      I could probably find more, but those are just the ones that jump out right off the bat.
      Speaking of a bat, someone needs to apply one to this turdburglar’s kneecaps. Repeatedly

      • AnotherPat says:

        May need new glasses, BUT…is he sporting a MSM?

        And no ARCOM or AAM?

        Also thought if you were NG or Army Reserve (not on Active Duty as AGR) that you were not officially “Retired” until you get your 20 year letter at the age
        of 60. He is not 60
        since he graduated from
        High School in 1978.

        Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

        • thebesig says:

          Originally posted by AnotherPat:

          Also thought if you were NG or Army Reserve (not on Active Duty as AGR) that you were not officially “Retired” until you get your 20 year letter at the age
          of 60.

          All you need, to receive a 20 year letter for irregular retirement, is to have 20 good years. These can be combined active duty and good reserve retirement years. When HRC shows that a Soldier accumulated those 20 years, a process is triggered to get a 20 year letter generated and sent that Soldier.

          A reserve Soldier can use that letter to request transfer to the retired reserve. Normally, they would have to wait till they are 60 years old to be eligible to receive retirement pay.

          depending on when, and where they deployed to, while in the reserve, they may even qualify to receive their retirement pay before they turn 60.

          So, if he has 20 good years, and he submitted a retirement packet based on the receipt of his 20 year letter, it would be a “gray area retiree”.

        • Martinjmpr says:

          Also thought if you were NG or Army Reserve (not on Active Duty as AGR) that you were not officially “Retired” until you get your 20 year letter at the age
          of 60. He is not 60
          since he graduated from
          High School in 1978.

          Nope, not true. Here’s how it goes:

          When an RC soldier hits 20 “good” years for retirement purposes, he gets a “20 year letter.” At that point, he can put in a request to be retired at any future date (I’m sure there are minimum/maximum times but that’s the general rule.)

          A soldier CAN request retirement any time after a 20 year letter is issued, but is not required to do so. I believe there are RCP (Retention Control Point) factors that take effect though (IOW, if you don’t make a certain rank by a certain number of years of service, you have to retire.)

          I got my 20 year letter just before I deployed to Kuwait for OIF in January of 2004. Upon return to CONUS in December 2004 we were excused from drill for 90 days, so in March of ’05 when I showed up for drill I went straight to the S1 and drafted my request to retire at the end of 05.

          What you may be thinking of is what sort of “retired” status these soldiers have. They are considered “retired” as soon as retirement orders are cut, giving an effective date on which that soldier is transferred to the retired reserve.

          At that point, they are “retirees” but they do not get full benefits.

          In common parlance, we are known as “gray area retirees.” We have an ID card (NOT a CAC card though) and are allowed SOME privileges (for example I can use the PX/Commissary without restriction, as well as other facilities on post available to retirees.) However, we do not qualify for Tricare, nor do we receive any pay.

          Upon turning 60, “gray area retirees” become “full retirees” at which time they start drawing pay and qualify for Tricare. The amount of retired pay is based on the total number of retirement points that were calculated upon retirement. More points = more $$. Points are awarded for drills attended, any periods of active duty, and in some cases for things like correspondence courses.

          I know that’s long winded, but I hope it explains it. I’m a gray-area retiree now with about 4 3/4 years to go before I become a “real” retiree. 😉

          • thebesig says:

            Originally posted by AnotherPat:

            I believe there are RCP (Retention Control Point) factors that take effect though (IOW, if you don’t make a certain rank by a certain number of years of service, you have to retire.)

            For Army Reserve, they have Maximum Years of Service (MYOS) for the enlisted side is the Retention Control Point. This has been suspended given the mobilization status that the military is on. Also, retirement points for correspondence courses, by themselves, are no longer authorized. Under some conditions, for a TPU Soldier making up drill, they could do correspondence courses to get drill pay and retirement points.

            Like you said, we can continue to serve after receiving our 20 year letter. I have my 20 year letter, and will have 25 years, cumulative, total military service next month. I have over 7300 retirement points as well. :mrgreen:

      • AnotherPat says:

        Stacy0311: If mobilized, Soldier does receive “M” device.

        You are right about the Hourglasses…and the knee..and the nickname..👍😎

  16. CB Senior says:

    Sparkle Pony First Class baby. He is rockin it. 3 Different MOS’ on one uniform, now that is talent.

    Is it a consolation prize that he is not claiming SEAL.

  17. David Bailey says:

    He says he has “documents with his name and SSN”. I asked him to provide them. I bet he won’t.

  18. Mick says:

    I will never understand why these phonies play ‘dress up’ and get all kitted out in their poser bling, and then attend veterans events while apparently assuming that no one will notice their blatant Stolen Valor bullshit.

    It makes the mind stagger.

  19. Skyjumper says:

    Jeesuse Kristuse!

    He sure is “all ate up” for a cook! (see what I did there).

    Boogers where they shouldn’t be, upside down boogers, ribbons not in order, waaaaaaaay to many servixe stripes, brass rank on shirt collar, armor brass above name tag, looks like two overseas bars more that 4″ above the end of sleeve and of course the Cav hat. And really, a plastic bag wrapped around the awards??

    Can’t see the bars on his “Expert Badge”, but I’m guessing one reads “spoon”, one reads “fork”, and the third one reads “knife”.

    Things you probably wouldn’t want to ask him in his Mess Hall:

    “Hey Sarge! What did you put into the mashed potatoes today, they seem extra creamy today”.

    No “1000 yard stare”, but he does have that leery old man perv, stalk you on the internet, hasn’t gotten it on (or up) for a long time look in his eyes, though. Be glad that your not one of his “lady friends” on Facebook.

  20. HMCS(FMF) ret says:

    Hey.. a spew alert or three…

    ‘Things you probably wouldn’t want to ask him in his Mess Hall:

    “Hey Sarge! What did you put into the mashed potatoes today, they seem extra creamy today”. ‘

    I threw up a little bit in my mouth….

  21. Perry Gaskill says:

    Scripter apparently wanted to go full Richard Petty with the Stetson; I’m surprised he didn’t add some feathers and one of Hardin’s dream catchers. The ribbon-rack baggie might be because it rains in Siskiyou County about 300 days per year.

    Some interesting historical trivia: Following the end of the Mexican War in 1848, Ulysses S. Grant was supposed to be sent from Fort Humboldt to Fort Jones in Siskiyou County, but went AWOL due to drinking heavily, and eventually resigned his commission. Apparently Fort Jones in those days was equivalent to the ass-end of the universe. Grant’s commanding officer evidently liked Grant which was the reason, so the story goes, he was allowed to resign instead of getting fired.

    Flash forward a few years, and the resignation also meant that Grant was able to have his commission reinstated when the Civil War came along. Still, Grant’s reputation as a drunk would continue to follow him around, and be used by his political enemies, even though there’s apparently no evidence he had a problem while a commander of Union forces.

    • Martinjmpr says:

      I seem to recall a story where, after a high ranking officer told President Lincoln about Grant’s drinking excesses, Lincoln said something like “find out what Grant is drinking and send a case of it to McLellan.” 😀

  22. mikeninercharlie says:

    Another fooking’ ninja cook, does he share recipes with these two shitheads?
    Sticky buns, anyone?

    http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=59684
    http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=63228

  23. Bernie Hackett says:

    I seem to recall that while honorably discharged members (Army in my case) could wear their uniform on certain patriotic occasions, it is supposed to be the CURRENT one. Greens went away recently, about a year ago?
    If that’s so, les poseurs are gonna have to get blues to rock their lies here forward. Not that that would deter them, mind you.
    And IAW the changed uniform regs about badges, which would be stumbling block #2.

  24. Dinotanker says:

    You know, I CANT fit into my dress blues anymore, they were tailored for a much younger less rotund version of Dinotanker, back when he was a newly minted 2LT in a cavalry regiment. Something happened to my body between 1984 and 1997: I got ummm tubby.

    I had to get a new set of Class A’s back in 97 while I was still in the USAR. I can still wedge my fat ass into those. But I do appreciate getting brought up to speed that the uniform is supposed to be CURRENT. Thanks Bernie. From time to time the local VFW drafts my ass to help out with a memorial day wreath laying ceremony. My role, when needed is to escort a member of the community in laying a wreath at a veterans memorial statue in a local cemetery. I AM NOT A MEMBER nor am I eligible to be a member OF THE VFW. Mrs Dinotanker through virtue of her service in Korea and going to Arabia/Kuwait during the First Gulf War is the combat soldier in this clan. She is the member of the VFW and is on the firing party for funerals and at ceremonies. I just hold her coat and help when I can.

    I thought back in the old days, that shoulder cords the color of your branch were worn, not sure when, but that went away and only the infantry wear the blue shoulder cords now. Im thinking this guy is wearing what would be an artillery cord, but the red looks a little too bright, that could be a problem with my eyeballs though.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      Cavalry red? He IS wearing a Stetson.

      • Dinotanker says:

        API,

        Cavalry color is golden yellow. Hmmm wonder why my motorcycle is that color…I also have a fondness for red over white, something to do with the color of a cavalry troop guidon.

        I don’t know about the Stetson, we didn’t wear them. The only time I saw them when I was at Ft Hood, it was the ceremonial horse platoon that wore them.

        I could be waaaaaaaay off on this; I think the Stetson is the mark of someone who has been to combat, like the golden spurs, versus the silver spurs from a “spur ride”. I wouldn’t presume to wear one, as I haven’t seen the elephant.
        Im very happy and humbled that you all allow me to throw my two cents in from time to time.

        • 19D2OR4 - Smitty says:

          The wear of the Stetson and Spurs is based on Regimental or Squadron SOP. There is no overarching reg on it.

          My current unit (4th Cav) anyone can wear the Stetson. My last unit (16th Cav) you could only wear it if you had your spurs (either kind) or if you were a PSG or above, as it was required for them, regardless of they had spurs.

          Technically, anyone of any MOS assigned to a Cav unit can wear one if there is no specific SOP over riding it.

    • 1SG Boom says:

      If the last uniform that you wore before your retirement was Class “A’s then yes you are authorized to wear them to functions as long as it meets the Regs.

  25. rgr769 says:

    There seems to be an endless supply of these lying phony embellisher mofo’s. He reminds me of the cook’s helper that came to our FSB in RVN with the hot A’s meal of the day and then had his photo taken holding one of my M60’s on the perimeter bunker line. I guess no one to this day knows his primary weapon was a large serving spoon. Is the red rope now indicative of food service? Maybe because red is the color of fresh meat?

  26. TheCloser says:

    23+ years time-in-service and he doesn’t know that he can order his ribbon rack with the proper precedence?

  27. PrevMed says:

    What in the actual fuck is that shit?

  28. Martinjmpr says:

    OSB question: The DD-214 says he rates 2 OSBs for his tour in Kosovo. So does he also rate a combat patch (FWTS-SSI?) I always thought the two pretty much went together.

    • Martinjmpr says:

      Just did a little googling and the answer is still as clear as mud. From what I can see the answer would be that a Kosovo deployment rates neither a patch NOR the two OSBs, and yet there is a statement right on the DD-214 that says he is authorized two OSBs.

      Of course, the simplest explanation there is probably the correct one: It’s a mistake made by the low-level clerk who typed up his DD-214 and was probably in a hurry to get it processed so he could get back to his PlayStation.

      • AnotherPat says:

        Sorry our answers got crissed-crossed in time.

        You are right on both counts about him not rating a Combat Patch or OSBs for his tours in Kosovo.

        And ironically, check this out from the California National Guard:

        https://www.facebook.com/CAARMYGUARD/posts/240095592760356

        He probably TOLD the clerk all that stuff, which makes me wonder about other things he has on his DD214.

        Again, is he wearing a MSM on his uniform and yet, there is no MSM annotated on his DD 214 as well as ARCOM or even an AAM?

    • AnotherPat says:

      According to AR 670-1, Chapter 21-17, Kosovo does not rate a Combat Patch.

      Scripter is wearing an unauthorized Combat Patch on his uniform.

    • Lily says:

      The reason Kosovo doesn’t rate a combat patch is because you have to deploy as apart of a larger group. You still get hostile fire pay if you deploy to Kosovo and Kosovo is considered a combat zone.

  29. Claw says:

    I need to retract my previous comment reference the number of service stripes (seven versus ten) on his left sleeve.

    It is possible that in the almost 11 years since that DD214 was issued he was able to pick up the needed time in the CA NG to rate all ten stripes.

    It is also possible (though highly improbable) in that 11 years for him to pick up on an AAM, an ARCOM, and yes, even a MSM as a retirement award, but I’m still calling Bullshit on the Air Medal, Soldier’s Medal and the Defense Distinguished Service Medal that are visible in his ribbon rack. We are unable to see what other ribbons may be hidden under the coat lapel, but at least he’s not sporting a third award CIB.

    Hopefully this comment will not be construed as a defense for him, just a clarification.

    He is still a sphincter buttnugget for embellishing his awards.( especially the Air Medal)

  30. Jerome Schumacher says:

    At one function he was wearing a CAB above the right pocket. Seems he adds and changes items from time to time.

  31. ex-OS2 says:

    Dropping some TAH love, fucking hilarious.

    https://www.facebook.com/jerry.scripter.7

    Still wide open for comments.

  32. Red Ghost says:

    I about fell out of my chair when I saw this post. I spent a year in Kosovo with this asshole in 2005. He got inflicted on us from somewhere. I heard he was supposed to go to the Sinai, but couldn’t get a passport due to non payment of Child Support. Scripter was known for three things: low IQ, a mean streak and being unhygienic as fuck. He did the graveyard TOC shift 6 nights a week, where he couldn’t do too much damage. He was with Alpha Co, 578th EN BN, and we were attached to TF Sidewinder (1/160 Inf) in Camp Monteith. Of course he would be parading around in messed up uniform and show up here at This Aint Hell.

  33. Red Ghost says:

    He’s wearing Engineer Castles, and while he was in Engineer Units I don’t think he ever held a 12 series MOS. I could be wrong about this.

    • ex-OS2 says:

      His DD214 indicates 92G30. I will ask him over on his FB.

      Muhahahahahaha

      • ex-OS2 says:

        He now says that he was in the 1/221 Armored Cavalry.

        • ex-OS2 says:

          Some lame ass excuses going down on his FB.

          https://www.facebook.com/jerry.scripter.7

          • AnotherPat says:

            In his other Facebook Page, didn’t he say he had a Service Dog?

            • ex-OS2 says:

              A few gems from his top secret FB.

              “For those in Jackson County White City Oregon I just left the Dairy Queen in White City and was refused entrance due to my service animal the owner claimed that by law the dog needed a vest which I have not yet purchased there is no ADA( American Disabilities Act) law stating this and all of my research cnnot find a Oregon Health department laws staing this whicj I asker he owner to produce for my perusal another words if a veteran is not showing a missing body part then in the Dairy Queens opinion we are not disabled yet I had in my pocket the required documents which when offered the the owner did not care. If there is an Oregon law stating the animal must waer a service animal vest then why did he not show me this law as I stated I cannot find this law.”

              “I was told and given a document by DHS that I am a combat veteran with PTSD explosive anger so I am a danger to the kids Yet 2 mental health professionals have stated on documents’ that I am fine.”

              “story #2 DHS has demanded that the children do not call step daddy daddy jerry because they have decided that the birth daddy is the only person who has that right yet the oldest and only one of the 2 children that speak decided to call me this, the first amendment gives children the right to voice their opinion.”

              He must have failed World History too:

              “I am an original Latino I am from Italian heritage the roman Empire spoke Latin Latino denotes those conquered by Spain not a culture, nation just a people.”

              “jerry is in the army uniform the hat is because I am recon 1/221 combat engineer and for a short time armor”

              Jerry is not the sharpest tool in the shed.

              https://www.facebook.com/jerry.scripter.3

              • rgr769 says:

                Boy he has all the indicia of a total shitbag poser: the faux PTSD claim arising from the trauma of being a REMF who never came close to combat; the “sevice” dog; and a raft of bling he likely never earned. The only things missing are a MC vest and a doo rag. What a douche. I’ll bet they had to lock up all the knives in the messhall kitchen when this ass-wipe was on duty so he wouldn’t hurt himself.

  34. USAFRetired says:

    Hell I don’t know where to start. That is one of the most jacked up ribbon racks I’ve ever seen. Then I looked closer and it appears he is sporting a 1st Lieutenant bar as part of it?

    I’m curious about his time in the USAF. He’s got an AF Training Ribbon, Longevity Service Ribbon but no AF Good Conduct Medal.

    My first award of an Air Medal was for 1981 I’d be curious as to what his AFSC was if he got it from his USAF time.

  35. lily says:

    John Liyea, Bosnia and Kosovo are completely different. I’m surprised you didn’t know that.

    To those who say Kosovo wasn’t a war I just want to say you’re wrong. Many don’t know that American soldiers did die there from hostile action.

    Staff Sgt. Joseph E. Suponic was killed by a land mine near Kosovska Kamenica, Kosovo, on Dec. 16, 1999. A member of Co. C, 3rd Bn., 10th Special Force Grp., he was the first GI to die there from hostile causes.

    https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P3-48990866.html

    Since the KFOR entered Kosovo in June 1999, 168 NATO soldiers have been killed, mostly in accidents.

    On 19 October 2004, it was confirmed that 115 NATO soldiers had been killed during the operation.[23] After that 50 more NATO soldiers were confirmed to have died, including 42 Slovak soldiers in a military plane crash in Hungary.

    The fatalities by country are: 42 Slovak, 26 German,[24] 34 unidentified, 18 American, 12 Russian, 8 British, 3 Swedish, 6 Italian, 5 French, 5 Polish, 4 Spanish, 3 Ukrainian, 2 Turkish, 1 Austrian, 1 Danish, 1 Dutch, 1 Greek, 1 Hungarian (natural death),[25] 1 Norwegian, 1 Romanian, 1 Slovenian, 3 Swiss, 1 Lithuanian, 1 United Arab Emirates and 1 Portuguese.[original research?]

    Eight UNMIK police officers have been killed in Kosovo since 1999, in addition to the KFOR fatalities.[26] The fatalities by country are: 3 American, 1 Indian, 1 Jordanian, 1 Nigerian, 1 Ghanaian and 1 Ukrainian police officer.

    Actually it’s been more than 18 Americans but no one really kept track.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_Force#KFOR_fatalities

    Serbia now claims that 1,008 Yugoslav soldiers and policemen were killed by NATO bombing.

    NATO initially[when?] claimed that 5,000 Yugoslav servicemen had been killed and 10,000 had been wounded during the NATO air campaign.[41][42] NATO has since revised this estimation to 1,200 Yugoslav soldiers and policemen killed.

    You don’t get a Kosovo Campaign Medal for serving in Bosnia if it wasn’t in support of KFOR. You get a Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal for serving in Bosnia.

    I hope you get your facts straight next time, John. I’m kind of tired of being disrespected by people who have something against the Kosovo war all because they don’t like Bill Clinton. It reminds me of people spitting on Vietnam Vets.

  36. USAFRetired says:

    I don’t know the deal with the funny hat. I just know I had to listen to my younger sister bitching about them because she had to buy one when she was an ambulance platoon leader at Ft Hood in 1988.

    I didn’t know what she was talking about when she was complaining about a “Calve Hat” or at least that what is sounded like to my ears. I figured it was one of those Texas/Army/ pick on the second Lieutenant things. When I helped her move from Ft Hood to Ft Benning I got to see it and I told her it looked like something a baby cow would wear. I also realized she was saying Calv(alry)Hat.

  37. USAFRetired says:

    lily

    I believe what Jonn and others pointed out was you didn’t get a Combat Patch for Kosovo. Wearing one based on service there would be disingenuous. Folks deployed there or flying missions there qualified for Imminent Danger Pay.

    Operation ALLIED FORCE was at the height of the “Monica Wars” I am the first one to admit that I viewed it as WJC trying to deflect scrutiny of his shenanigans. At least right up until my first sortie into the KEZ. While we were feet wet before calling on station I was listening to a USAF FAC trying to get additional strike assets to put on target. I listened to him describe how a Serb ground element was using a 2S60 57mm AAA to knock down the homes of the folks they had just run out of some village. They basically leveled the place so the folks had no place to come home to. I came to the realization that I and my crew were supposed to be there because somebody needed to put a stop to it.

    • lily says:

      The only reasons people didn’t get a combat patch for Kosovo was because it was a NATO War and the units deployed were less then battalion or regiment size. at the height of the Kosovo War only 7000 American troops participated.

      The combat patch can be misleading anyways. I know people who saw more combat action in Kosovo than many saw in Iraq and Afghanistan. Scripter should take the patch off. I don’t think that a person who saw more combat action in Kosovo should feel like they are beneath those wearing the combat patch.

  38. AnotherPat says:

    lily: “I don’t think that a person who saw more combat action in Kosovo should feel like they are beneath those wearing the combat patch.”

    You are right. They should not feel that way.

    They should be proud and focus on their military service for our country versus putting emphasis on medals, ribbons and combat patches.

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