Joseph Veryl Moore; Confidential informant phony

| August 21, 2017 | 36 Comments

Our buddy Nate Thayer wrote about this fellow, Joseph Veryl Moore, who was a confidential informant for the FBI in a case against 3 KKK members who were convicted last week of conspiracy to commit first degree murder. From Nate’s article about Moore that he wrote a little over a week ago;

The case of the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) and their long paid undercover informant Moore threatens to make the trial as much an indictment of how the FBI carries out the War on Terror using the vast secret police powers afforded them since the World Trade Center terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, and eclipse that of the defendants charged with murder conspiracy.

Several thousand pages of classified internal FBI documents, and court sealed depositions of FBI agents, their informant Joseph Moore, and others suggest the “domestic terrorism” charges may have been knowingly concocted by the informant and the FBI, with involvement of and written approval by at least 51 FBI agents, including senior FBI officials at Washington headquarters.

According to Thayer, the FBI knew that Moore “ain’t right in the head”. He’d served in the Army from 1995 – 2002. He was an infantryman in the 25th Division in Hawaii;

In recent years, Moore has also claimed to have single-handedly wrestled a shark stalking swimmers off a Florida beach, fired the shot that killed Osama bin Laden, is an elite U.S. army Special Forces trained sniper, was dispatched on secret U.S. government missions abroad to assassinate America’s enemies, killed a man in China, personally arrested a pedophile attempting to abduct a child, worked as a secret government undercover drug agent in “the Pacific region,” was wounded in combat in Afghanistan, and been awarded the silver star, the bronze star, and a purple heart for heroism in combat.

None of these claims are true, either.

Joseph Moore never was deployed abroad or served in a combat zone, never served in the US army special forces or was a sniper, and was never awarded medals for combat heroism, according to his official U.S. military DD-214 military records. He was forced out of the army in 2001 after going AWOL and found sleeping in his car by his mother during a mental health crisis while serving as a recruiter at a storefront army recruitment center in a strip mall outside of Los Angeles, never having left the United States.

Moore’s records;

Moore wears an Afghanistan Campaign Medal that he didn’t earn on his cap;

Nate and I worked on this for years together and Nate’s article is a must-read, especially since the FBI and the Nazis both believed his wild-ass tales of derring-do.

Before and since he was activated as a paid FBI informant in 2007, the FBI has known Moore has an uninterrupted track record of providing false information to them, other law enforcement, and federal and state prosecutors on dozens of occasions, in addition to weaving an extraordinary and complex web of lies to his family and associates, medical doctors, the Ku Klux Klan, and others.

The case of the FBI and their Confidential Human Source, Joseph Moore, is a study of how not to build a criminal case in the War on Terrorism, said several retired career FBI special agents.

They say there is a systemic breakdown within the FBI in supervision of the conduct of special agents and adherence to strict internal guidelines for handling confidential sources.

It’s a long article, but it is important.

Category: Phony soldiers

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  1. AW1 Tim says:

    Well, isn’t that special. Nothing like knowing that your government, and especially the FBI, is involved in manufacturing cases and making arrests, likely to meet their quotas and justify their budgets/jobs.

    Surprising how, in just 8 years under president mom jean’s administration, the FBI went from a respected organization to one whose initials now stand for “Friends Before Integrity”.

  2. Jay says:

    Went AWOL after a mental health crisis on recruiting duty…..that’s the most believable thing on this guy.

    • Silentium Est Aureum says:

      Only career recruiters haven’t had the recurring urge to run away screaming, mostly because they’re the source of about 99 percent of recruiter stress.

      • Jay says:

        True story….especially the ones that showed up as young Sgts and are now MSgt/MGySgts….talking about how easily they can go out and find someone to join “today”.

        • USMCMSgt (Ret) says:

          Yeah, I remember those “Career Recruiter” types who were instructors at the Basic Recruiter Course – all of them SNCO’s.

          To their credit, they were good at their jobs but they spoke down to everyone (as if their job was more important than anyone else’s).

          A majority of the instructors had several personal awards. Maybe one or two had a single overseas deployment ribbon. Only one instructor wore ribbons from Desert Storm.

          It struck me odd how these young SNCO’s would compare their service to everyone else’s. A majority of the students had numerous deployments overseas, with combat service and valor awards, and multiple deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan.

          Just an observation…

          • Silentium Est Aureum says:

            Yup, in Navy Recruiting we said that CRF stood for, “Can’t Remember Fleet.”

            I went to recruiting as a PO1 with 5 SSDR’s.

            Of the six zone supervisors and the Chief Recruiter, only one had more than 1. Telling.

            • USMCMSgt (Ret) says:

              Yep. 98% of the instructors at the school were made career recruiters early on. The newest of them had been assigned to that school for 6 years, having never left MCRD San Diego. The rest had been there longer.

    • Thunderstixx says:

      The “mental health crisis”…

      WAAAAAHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!! MOM, they took my medals away from me and now those meanies over on Jonn’s site are picking on me !!!!!

      WAAAAAAAHHHHH !!!!!!!!!

  3. Just An Old Dog says:

    I absolutely despise criminals, but there is a reason our justice system throws out cases that are tinged with bullshit like this.
    Using shit bag informants to simply get a foot in the door to break a case may sound harmless, but leads to a slippery slope of fabricated evidence and framing defendants.

    • 11B-mailclerk says:

      On the other hand, one usually does not find a paragon of virtue in the criminal band one is investigating.

      You run with the informants you can acquire and turn, not the ones you wish you had.

  4. Ret_25X says:

    In the USA, a lawyer can go far by abusing the system.

    Who does this? Well, our very own Dickenthal is a prime example. There is Giuliani, Christie, and the list can go on forever….

    What is the cost of wrongful prosecution? Nothing for the prosecutor.

    Everything for the prosecuted.

  5. OldManchu says:

    Did Bill Clinton personally give this asshat that cigar? I’m just saying… his mouth looks a little stretched.

  6. chooee lee says:

    Well you bet your ass he isnt a “Confidential” informant anymore.

  7. Animal says:

    He claims he got the PTSD from, ” “live fire training exercises” while in army basic training in the U.S., which rendered him incapable of working. He now receives $4200 a month from the VA and the Social Security Administration as a result.”

    It is a long article, but worth the time.

  8. Ex-PH2 says:

    Nice to see my tax money at work. Can I have it back now?

    Used to be that integrity meant something good. Now – well, integrity seems to have flown hastily out the window.

  9. Deplorable B Woodman says:

    There’s a reason that the FBI are know as “FiBbIes”.

    And if someone, ANYONE approaches you and says “let’s blow up something / kill someone”, throat punch ’em, run as far and as fast as possible in the opposite direction, while calling the local “news”, and local, state, and FedGov po-po. Tell the po-po that this asshat tried to entrap you into doing something illegal.

    Or, you could just practice the Four Esses and make Mr Enticement Asshat. Just. Disappear. (poof….)

  10. The Other Whitey says:

    The feds sure know how to pick ’em!

  11. Skidmark says:

    If anyone believes that the FBI, CIA, ATF, DEA and other government authorities don’t knowingly build fraudulent cases, make fraudulent arrests and continue on to convict those people sending them to prison, is absolutely out of touch with reality.
    We’d like to think not, but in truth, there have been, still are and will continue to be innocent Americans sent to prison and to death based on fraudulent evidence.

  12. Green Thumb says:

    What a fucking tool.

  13. HMC Ret says:

    He certainly knows how to ‘work’ a cigar.

  14. Dave Hardin says:

    Ever since Agent Kay retired this kind of thing has been getting worse. Why didn’t they just use their flashy thingy and save us all the drama.

  15. Jeff LPH 3, 63-66 says:

    Well I can’t say anything good about this guy, so I won’t say any thing Moore.

  16. USAF E-5 says:

    Why does he show an overseas svc ribbon if he didn’t go overseas? Does the Army get a ribbon for a Hawaii tour? just asking, cause I don’t know.

  17. Perry Gaskill says:

    Having read the story on Moore, it’s interesting but I might have minor second-pair-of-eyes suggestions for Nate Thayer:

    It could be a bit better on narrative flow. The chronology, for example, seems to skip back and forth more than it should, IMHO.
    It also seems to go into more detail on some facts, although relevant, that might not be all that important in the overall story. Which is a fairly solid piece of work. The part about how the FBI fired Moore the first time, for example, might have been tighter.

    On the other hand, there are a couple of holes which might have been filled for the sake of completeness. One is that it would help to know how, around 2005, Moore was recruited in the first place. Was he flipped from another legal beef? Did he walk into a field office cold?

    Something else missing is detail on the three KKK yahoos currently facing trial. What, exactly, are they charged with? How did Moore know them?

    Back in the day, I was taught that the use of “this reporter” or “a reporter” in order to avoid the first-person “I” should be avoided. An alternate approach is to introduce in the story early a short graf indicating you had direct contact. After that, you can use the simple verb “said” and it’s assumed that whatever somebody like Moore reveals came from direct contact.

    Just my two cents…

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