Donald Gray; phony POW, sniper

| September 17, 2017 | 56 Comments

AverageNCO found an article about the amazing Donald Gray who went to the mobile Vietnam Memorial when it came to Cave City, Kentucky. Gray told his story to the journalist, Gina Kinslow, from the Glasgow Daily Times;

Gray was a sniper in Vietnam and said it is past time to pay tribute to those who made the ultimate sacrifice during the Vietnam War.

[…]

“It’s a miracle that I’m not worse than I am, because I was right in the middle of Agent Orange and Agent White and all that stuff that they sprayed,” he said. “They done it the heaviest around Saigon. My home post was 40 miles north of Saigon, but I spent most of my time all up and down and through Vietnam. If they sent me out for a guy, I had to go and get him.”

[…]

Gray said he was never one to talk much about his military service.

“I never let no one but the immediate family know that I had even served three years in the Army and six months in Vietnam until 1991 when the National Guard was sent to Kuwait,” he said.

[…]

Gray was also a prisoner of war while serving in Vietnam.

“I spent roughly eight hours as a prisoner,” he said. “I got loose. I would have gotten loose if I had to chew the ropes in two. I was determined.”

He explained he had met a girl while on leave and had popped the question. She said yes, but the couple decided not to marry until he returned home.

“That gave me high esteem to get back home,” he said. “I would have walked over anybody to get back.”

He fought five of his captors and managed to get the pilot, copilot and a door gunner free. They made it back to the helicopter where they had been shot down and then called for help.

Well, Gray was indeed in the Army from 1966-1969. He was in Vietnam from May 1969-October 1969. He was assigned to the 229th Service and Repair company as a power train repairman. He went to Vietnam from an assignment in Germany. He wasn’t a sniper, he didn’t have to retrieve downed airmen. He wasn’t a POW according to DPAA;

He wasn’t on active duty during the Gulf War;

Donald Gray’s only military records;

I guess it wasn’t good enough that he’d served when many Americans of his generation wouldn’t.

Category: Phony soldiers

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  1. Sapper3307 says:

    GET TO DA CHOPPPA!

    • Animal says:

      Good one. A half second sooner and I’d be cleaning my screen off.

    • Green Thumb says:

      It might take him a while.

      He had to take out five or six dudes en route so I hope it holds steady on the LZ. Not to mention he probably needed to stop and patch up that communication wire he tripped over.

      Plus, I do not think they were after him because he was not armed. Well, according to him, I assume his hands and teeth were lethal weapons.

      Just another old, gnarly bullshit story teller.

      Maggot.

  2. 1610desig says:

    And, Rambo signed himself up for some PTSD benefits in 2007…this bullshit article should (but probably won’t) dissuade any compensation panel

  3. Sj says:

    Agent White? Never heard of that.

  4. Sj says:

    With the PBS premier tonight of The Vietnam War (http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-vietnam-war/home/) posers will have a lot of new material to try out.

    I’ll tape it but skeptical since it is PBS.

  5. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    What, no Purple Star with a Bronze Wing Cluster as well?

    Cocksucking Poodlefucker.

  6. Combat Historian says:

    He hit the Vietnam Poser Trifecta: he was a sniper, rescued downed airmen, and was a POW. Everything else done during the war was just miscellaneous minutiae…

  7. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    Yet another lying bucket of Chihuahua shit.

  8. Ncat says:

    This guy fills me with a high esteem to kick him in the stones.

  9. MCPO NYC USN Ret. says:

    Gray said of his service in the Viet of the Nam war, “Agent Orange and Agent White and all that stuff that they sprayed”.

    Agents Magenta, Sea Foam Green, Sky Blue and Flat Black all say, “Gray is full of shit”.

  10. rgr769 says:

    Surprise, surprise, Sergeant! Another remphy REMP claiming feats of derring do, stepping in his own doo doo.

  11. HMCS(FMF) ret says:

    The only sniping that DONALD GRAY ever did was at the local gehy bar… butt sniping the local clientele.

    Assclown.

  12. Jeff LPH 3, 63-66 says:

    This is not another “Gray” area, this one is a real one. I wonder if phony snipers will catch up too the other three Spec Op groups.

  13. 3/17 Air Cav says:

    From his records, it appears he started out as a US, meaning he was drafted. Then, he converts to a RA. I think that means he extended for a year, for a total of three years. Prob. Did it to get a choice of schools, and not go to Vietnam.

    He ends up going to Germany, then surprise suprise, gets sent to to Vietnam for six months.

    Comes home, decides since he went to Vietnam, might as well become a war hero, telling tall tales of war hero exploits!

    Dumb Ass!

  14. Wilted Willy says:

    Hey! At least he didn’t claim to be a SEAL??
    Phuck Hyme!!
    Cocksucking asshamster!

  15. AnotherPat says:

    So….Has the Newspaper or the Reporter been informed that his story being a Vietnam POW is bogus?

  16. Perry Gaskill says:

    I spent some time tracking down Gray’s unit assignments in RVN. Apparently both the 229th and 758th Supply and Support companies were based in Phu Loi, a major base located about 30 miles north of Saigon and 20 miles west of Bien Hoa/Long Binh. Phu Loi saw lots of units float in and out starting in 1965, including the 1st ID, 82 Airborne, and various aviation units.

    An interesting factoid is that Agent Orange was applied at ground level there to keep vegetation down on the perimeter. The base itself was evidently heavily fortified with multiple rows of concertina, claymores, towers, etc. Here’s a link about units at Phu Loi and a couple of photos:

    http://phuloi.weebly.com/about-phu-loi.html

    Here’s another about the 758th S & S with a video toward the bottom of a stills photo collection:

    https://www.prlog.org/11808621-758th-phu-loi-south-vietnam.html#

    Davis’ tale of being a sniper and POW is obviously bogus. I wouldn’t speculate on whether he ever actually got outside the wire at Phu Loi.

    • 3/17 Air Cav says:

      Perry………..I flew with the Air Cav out of Phu Loi. Your description of it is spot on. On a side note, I did not know until today about the agent orange being applied there. Before Phu Loi I was at Phuoc Vinh where they stored the shit.

      Finding out today about orange and Phu Loi, doesn’t exactly make my day! Great, just fucking great!

      • Perry Gaskill says:

        I’m not sure I’d be all that concerned about the Agent Orange issue, Steve. Although I don’t remember the topic ever coming up in RVN, I was working on a story in Oregon some years later about a group called the Hoedads who worked on reforestation after Bureau of Land Management sections had been clear-cut.

        It so happened that the herbicide compound BLM was using was a close cousin to Agent Orange, and contained the same Dow Chemical compounds 2,4,5-D and 2,4,5-T. Since the Hoedad replanting crews were usually made up of tree-hugging hippie folk, there was a major freakout when it became rumored BLM was helping the Dow war criminals “poison” the forest– and the Hoedads.

        During the course of all the bickering, BLM dragged in a bunch of experts who pointed out a couple of things I remember clearly. One was that the compound in use was a commercial variant of the same Roundup weed killer you might use on your driveway. The other thing was that the herbicide was likely to dilute and disappear the next time it rained. Which in Oregon meant tomorrow…

    • rgr769 says:

      Highly unlikely he was ever outside the wire. He spent his days in the motor pool doing what he was trained to do, twisting a wrench. I’m not saying he never went on bunker guard. Hell, even us line doggies had to perform that duty when we were back in the rear (with the gear), just like some of the REMF’s.

      • Claw says:

        63H = Third shop (Direct Support level or above) clutch, engine, driveshaft, and differentials remover/replacer.

        Need a new clutch/pressure plate/throw-out bearing for your jeep? Gray is the man to see.

        Need a sniper? Gray is not the man.

        • Claw says:

          Oh, and 52B = 1.5KW/4.2 KW/5KW and above Generator Operator/Repairman.

          Lights in the GP Large/Hooch go out when the generator dies? Gray is the man to call for.

          Need a downed bird crew picked up? Gray is not the man to see.

      • 3/17 Air Cav says:

        Out for ten days, back in for three. Actually two days and a wake up. Second night pull bunker line guard. Total bullshit, used to piss me off to no end!

      • Perry Gaskill says:

        rgr769, it’s always interesting to me to hear what other people were doing in other parts of RVN during the war. Call it a matter of enlarged narrative. An example is awhile back I made a comment about the weird Toonerville railroad stuff left over from the French era rusting away in Nha Trang. Claw, one of the more astute observers of things RVN, pointed out that further north in Phu Bai a small part of the railroad still functioned, and he could sometimes see from the air it being used to shuttle ARVN from one place to another.

        Point being that it’s useful to compare notes with somebody if you trust the source. The problem with people like Davis is that the layer of lies tends to become so deep you can’t trust anything they say. He might, in fact, have had a few experiences outside the wire but no one wants to hear about it when he starts out claiming to be a POW.

        • Claw says:

          Perry, there was a ARVN Basic Training compound there at Phu Bai and I think the little choo-choo was used to transport fresh troops up to the ARVN’s version of a Repo Depot at Hue.

          And then at other times you could see it chugging south in the direction of the Hai Van Pass and Da Nang.

          My theory: The little train was used to swap comfort girls from one province to another./smile

          • Perry Gaskill says:

            Claw, from LZ English down to Qui Nhon, you could still see the railroad right-of-way from the air but the tracks, ties, bridges, etc. were long gone. In Nha Trang, there was what had once been a cool old French Colonial station that had been abandoned. Out back of it was a bunch of steam-powered rolling stock covered with creeper vines.

            I’m only bringing this up because I’m probably not the only one who played a certain kind of head game while in country. One consisting of wondering what things had been like way back before the Japanese, and the flip side of that coin which was what things were going to be like after we left.

            One day, for example, we were somewhere outside Ban Me Thuot in an area of jungle that hadn’t yet reached the level of triple canopy. I remember looking around and having it suddenly dawn on me that most of the trees were in the tidy even rows of a rubber plantation that had become overgrown. Somebody had planted those trees for a reason.

        • rgr769 says:

          I wouldn’t believe any of his stories even without the POW/sniper fairy tales, because he was a wheeled vehicle mechanic not a trigger puller. I would venture a guess that the only time he held an M-16 in RVN is if the 1st Sgt. put him on bunker guard duty.

  17. 26Limabeans says:

    Thank god they made it back to the chopper.
    I had to piss during that part of the movie so I missed the riveting run to the bird.
    Damn, I hope it comes out on DVD soon. Damn.
    Just Damn.

  18. 11 Bravo says:

    The newspaper reporter should print this phoneys story on the front page.
    I earned my CIB. You shit dippn asshamster. Should be arrested for phoney valor!

  19. Yef says:

    We should come up with an Army SEAL meme and see how many fakers would fall for it.

    Air Force Rangers sounds good too. Marine Special Forces and Navy Recon.

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