CSM John Wayne Troxell to ISIS: surrender or die

| January 11, 2018 | 76 Comments

Command Sergeant Major John Wayne Troxell, the senior enlisted advisor to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has a message for members of ISIS according to Fox News; “if they choose not to surrender, then we will kill them with extreme prejudice, whether that be through security force assistance, by dropping bombs on them, shooting them in the face, or beating them to death with our entrenching tools.”

Air Force Col. Patrick Ryder, a spokesman for Dunford and the Joint Staff, told the Post that Troxell’s comments emphasized the U.S.-led coalition’s resolve to defeat ISIS.

“His intent was to communicate the tenacity of the warrior ethos that, even when faced with the brutal and unforgiving nature of combat, will use every resource available to fight and win,” Ryder said of Troxell.

The last part of Troxell’s warning, referring to “our entrenching tools”, the folding shovel, probably refers to the news this week in the UK press about a Special Air Services trooper;

An elite SAS soldier cut off an ISIS fighter’s head with a spade after he ran out of ammunition during a bloody six-hour battle, it was claimed.

After killing the jihadist, the British sergeant used the enemy’s gun to kill more militants.

The brutal battle is said to have occurred six weeks ago in war-torn Afghanistan.

The British special forces unit was ambushed by ISIS gunmen and took refuge in a farm where the soldiers fended off the insurgents with their rifles and anything at hand, it was reported.

Thanks to Mick for the Fox News link.

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  1. Rb325th says:

    Warrior Ethos…

  2. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    Oh-fuckin’-HELL YEAH, another crystal clear sign that adults are at the helm again, fucked up ROE’s thrown in the shitpit and the Dogs of War unleashed upon the enemy!

  3. SFC D says:

    This is what militaries do, kill the bad guys. It’s awesome that the grown ups in charge realize this. Finally.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      Let them kill people, break things and bring Hell itself upon our enemies when they do so!

    • The Other Whitey says:

      Caring for the enemy’s feelings didn’t work for the previous eight years. It’s nice to see that the Army recognizes that. Although CNN/MSNBS will be calling CSM Troxell a racist any second now.

      • rgr769 says:

        The worthless progtard media has to play their race card. It is all they know how to do any more. Bradley (aka Chelsea) Manning is their idea of a military hero.

      • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

        The proglodyte liberal media will never cease to do all they can to give President Trump all the negatively slanted coverage they can. President trump could suddenly invent a cure for all forms of cancer, give it away for free to every patient and they’d scream that the injections stung and/or the pills had a bitter taste!

  4. ChipNASA says:

    Oh come on Jonn,
    you can’t post this without referencing our local hero


  5. OWB says:

    Warriors, speaking of warrior ethos out loud, in public, instead of quietly, in darkened rooms, while glancing over their shoulders.


  6. Wilted Willy says:

    I just love having adults in charge again! I guess the previous dumb ass in charge couldn’t figure out that just calling them bad names would not stop them from killing you! Kill em all and let God sort them out!

  7. Graybeard says:

    Am I bad for getting all giggly reading this?

  8. Sapper3307 says:

    Do we know if our old favorite shovel killer is active? Or if he went off to Russia again?

  9. 1610desig says:

    The Kenyan hybrid just pissed his skivvies

  10. IDC SARC says:

    Freedom Boner!

  11. Mike says:

    CSM Troxell was my BDE CSM during the Surge in 2007; he’s an amazing leader who practices what he preaches, leads from the front, and isn’t afraid to get his hands dirty.

    I was surprised to learn later on, during my 2nd deployment, that it wasn’t common for the BDE CSM to come on patrol often.

    He caught flak for the post from a bunch of whiners, but he stands to what he said and even provided the source straight from FM that showed the use of the e tool as a weapon.

    Also: don’t PT with him unless you want to be greatly humbled.

    • Fjardeson says:

      CSM John Wayne Troxell. My kind of soldier! The name fits the man.

      As said higher in this thread, the grown-ups are back in charge. ISIS/Daesh, in the words of JJ Watt (Houstonian here)…


    • Muqdadiyah19D says:

      Mike – I’m trying to remember, CSM Troxell was in my chain of command as well – I just can’t remember exactly when. I was 3rd BDE, 1st Cav, deployed during the surge as well. Maybe you can refresh me.

      He is definitely a bad-ass. Legendary figure. Definitely a 19 Series.

      • LTC(R) F says:

        Trox is a 19D. His mustard stain was from when he was a tank commander in C/3-73 and he jumped into Panama. A lot of great NCO’s came from that battalion in the late 80’s, Trox was the best of them. Glad to see he hasn’t changed a bit.

      • Yef says:

        3BDE 1st Cavalry div?

        Im pretty sure we relived you guys in Diyala by the end of 2007. September? I think. CSM Troxell can’t have been in your CoC,I mean, NCO support channel, because he was the BDE CSM in 4BDE 2ID.

        Or, perhaps your BN migt have been attached to 4SBCT. There were all kind of task force deals done during the surge to create BDE Plusses.

        My BN, 2-23, was in Falcon for most of 2007 separated from the rest of 4SBCT which was in Taji. Then we went to FOB Normandy and then Warhorse.

        There was all kind of stuff going on to get strykers where the shit was hitting the fan.

    • Yef says:

      Mike, if CSM Troxell was your BDE CSM in 2007 that means you were in the 4SBCT at the same time I was there.
      I deployed with 2-23 IN. Who were you with?

      • Muqdadiyah19D says:


        Not my BDE Commander – that was CSM Felt at the time. I thought Troxell was somewhere around – I know the name and picture – However, 2/23 took over FOB Normandy, right where I was at, in about Sep of ’07. I was 6/9 Cav.

        Muqdadiyah was not a very nice place. Route Marie, Purple, and others. Lost some real good folks. Your unit helped us clean up a real mess one day so our soldiers didn’t have to see some of our own. Helped us hook up a Bradley that was flipped from an IED – lost its turret and all 5 inside. That was about the time you guys got there. You also lost some men and Strykers while we were working. We battled those fuckers right up until days before we left out of there in late November.

        I would love to keep going – maybe the wrong forum for this conversation.

        You guys felt it too – Wojahiya, Kanaquin, Buhriz – nasty, nasty areas. Crawling with IED’s and HBIED’s. Literally crawling.

        We were fighting Islamic State of Iraq when they broke from AQIZ. Before ISIS. Nasty little bitches.

      • Muqdadiyah19D says:

        Just figured it out. I was at Fort Knox from late 2008 to late 2010. He was there. I thought he was in the chain somewhere!

    • E4 Mafia For Life says:

      One of the other Bradley gunners in my platoon in Desert ‘Nam knew Troxell back when they were E-5’s.
      He is in the picture on the far left.

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  13. Mason says:

    God, this keeps up and I might have to re-enlist! I’d be honored to say I served under these men.

    Now how long before the MSM calls this some toxic masculinity?

  14. Perry Gaskill says:

    Sometimes the news media can just about lick toad skins. In looking for a reaction to Troxell’s comment other than that of Fox News, I expected a different spin, and wasn’t disappointed. Here’s the lede from a story ABC ran:

    “A Facebook post written by a senior enlisted U.S. military leader raised eyebrows this week after it instructed troops to beat ISIS fighters with a shovel if they don’t surrender.”

    Personally, although I’ve been accused of being medieval, I’m not sure Troxell’s warning on social media is the most effective approach. It’s important to keep in mind it wasn’t long ago that ISIS was cutting the heads off journalists, burning captured pilots in cages, and then putting the video on YouTube.

    My own view is that the only warning ISIS should get is that provided by the mortal remains of their pals who continued to follow jihad. Such evidence should also give a clear signal that when the end comes, it will be very painful and prolonged.

    • Graybeard says:

      ::looking for my shocked face::

    • OWB says:

      I get what you are saying in your last paragraph, and don’t entirely disagree. However, the “warning” may not be so much for the foreign enemy but for the one within. An optional way to read this is, “OK, play time is over. Don’t be looking for charges against our guys for doing their jobs.”

      • Perry Gaskill says:

        I’m not being critical of Troxell except to somewhat disagree on whether any public media message should be delivered– either directly to the one within or indirectly to the foreign enemy– at all.

        ISIS gave up its right to usual humanitarian considerations some time ago. They chose to go that way, nobody forced them. So they deserve to know nothing, even if it’s revealed inadvertently, of the fate awaiting them except it’s coming soon, and likely in a way that will prove gruesome.

        Keeping them in the dark and afraid gives us an operational edge.

  15. FatCircles0311 says:

    TThey should be killer even if they surrender. Quit military trail for war crimes and firing squad. There should be no quarter when it comes to those that fight for ISIS. Our CIA should be sent to cucked European countries that have welcomed ISIS fighters back and they should be killed. Hunt them down to the ends of the Earth.

  16. Thunderstixx says:

    One look in that man’s eyes and you know he isn’t bull shitting at all…
    I wonder if he has actually used one to do the deed.
    And yes, I did get some wood reading this…

  17. From this civilian psychologist’s perspective, there is absolutely nothing toxic about CSM Troxell’s stalwart statement.

    ~ Mark

    stalwart, adj. 1. sturdy and robust; having rugged physical strength; inured to fatigue or hardships. 2. strong and imposing; stouthearted; courageous; dependable and loyal; valiant. 3. resolute and firm; steadfast.

  18. STSC(SW/SS) says:

    Kill them all and let God send them to hell.

  19. SSG E says:

    Valor award, mustard stain, Ranger tab and a broken nose – this is what a CSM should be…

  20. HMCS(FMF) ret says:

    Well I’ll be damned… looks like someone is an honor graduate of the James Mattis School of Ass Kicking and Beating the Fuck Out of the Enemy!

  21. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    Finally. It’s about time the line was drawn at surrender or die instead of “I double dare you to cross my Red Line.” Morale just skyrocketed.

  22. Top W Kone says:

    The E-Tool is highly under rated close quarters weapon

    It also has the advantage of being non threatting when seen by others near by

    I have one in each of my cars with in reach (old wood Handel is best) and if questioned “oh that is just Incase I get stuck”

  23. 11B-Mailclerk says:

    Gloves, -off-!


  24. Bim says:

    I saw the picture, and immediately thought of this turd: Steve Edgell.


    Remember his Faceplace sockpuppet “Micheal Epley” (his ‘commanding officer’) that he would sic on the unbelievers? The profile used CSM Troxells picture. Still does, in fact. https://www.facebook.com/micheal.epley.5?fref=ts

  25. Ex-PH2 says:

    Carry a flint-bladed knife on you at all times, and a bronze blade in your boot.

    And you guys think my employment of a cast iron skillet for defense or combat is silly. (snorrtt!) There’s also the cheese grater approach. I think my marble rolling pin would hold up quite well, too.

  26. OldManchu says:

    If any feel good ers are offended by his e-tool comments, wait until they find out it makes an excellent temporary toilet seat for one to shit in the field with!

    Chop off a jihadi head.
    Hack a hasty hole in the ground.
    Kick the head in the hole.
    Take a shit on it.

  27. chooee lee says:

    Holy Jumped Up Jesus !! I don’t care what you say that right there is BAD ASS.

  28. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    “This is a medical alert. If you or a loved one is suffering trauma from a Troxell rectal implant, call the Sharia Law Line today. Our experienced attorneys are standing by to help. Call 1-888-555-1111 or email us at mysoreass.net”

    • Dinotanker says:


      I seem to remember reading somewhere, back in my mis-spent youth that one WW I veteran said the best way to clear a trench was a sack full of grenades and a sharpened entrenching tool.

      CSM Troxell rocks!

  29. Martinjmpr says:

    Now I’m just waiting for the fakers to start coming out of the woodwork saying how many “confirmed E-tool kills” they have.

  30. 11B-Mailclerk says:

    The CSM has announced 2018’s first “shovel ready project”.


  31. D says:

    Just FYI, there are some folks who love this blog, do not identify as conservative/Republican, and got hard after reading Troxell’s statement. Speaking of others, of course (ahem).

  32. Green Thumb says:

    Ranger comes before Jump Master.

    Senior what?

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