Admin notes

| February 6, 2013

I don’t like doing it, but I’ve moderated several people over the last two days. I’m trying to stay away from starting a registration process – mostly because a few years back when I did have an open registration, a troll broke in and took over the blog. I was on vacation at the time, but I restored everything and booted the clown out – but that’s why there’s no link to register.

Anyway, if this was my coffee shop or my shoe store, I wouldn’t allow horseplay, so I’m taking these measures to restore a semblance of order here. I’m pretty sure that some of yesterday’s trolls weren’t who they pretended to be – they’ve been here before under different names.

So, if you comment, and find yourself moderated (Harry, Eagle Keeper, Cyber Bully, ObamaGirl, specifically) I’ll let your comments through if you’re actually having a discussion and not namecalling and being a general jerk.

Some of you, not listed, might find yourself moderated because my spam filter is working overtime – that would be accidental. If you find your comment not posted email me and I’ll dig it out of the filter.

But, I’m just trying to keep the discussions on track and give the impression that we’re all grown ups here. Take your flame wars to email.

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Comments (40)

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  1. James says:

    Wow, I just went back and read some of these guys (CB etc) I don’t feel so bad about my f/u. Talk about issues and education whoa!

  2. Thunderstixx says:

    Yes, good thoughts here.
    So many trolls out there that go to good blogs toss a few frag grenades in and sit back to watch the fur fly.
    I would not object to registering for this site, but you are free to control those that mean us harm. Those that troll and toss those grenades are trying to split us into warring factions.
    Simply put, good leadership is needed, not trolls.’

  3. Ex-PH2 says:

    Thank you, Jonn. The attacks will die back after a while, but probably won’t ever stop.

    It is difficult to have a reasonable discussion with someone whose only agenda is responding on the level of a welder’s blowtorch.

    I have no problem with moderation.

  4. Biermann says:

    A clean house is a happy house.

  5. Flagwaver says:

    And people wonder why I keep the cursing to a minimum and use frak so much…

    Thank you, John. I try not to feed the trolls much, but I also have a bad habit of dueling wits with the unarmed.

  6. jerry920 says:

    Thanks Jonn, much appreciated.

  7. NHSparky says:

    I’m just waiting for the trolls (like OG, Dewald, etc.) who know my address to show up at my home. I mean, it’s not like they haven’t already told me they know where I live.

  8. Robot Wrangler says:

    Sounds like a good idea Jonn. There is reasonable debate and there is putting up your opinion as the only argument that matters. The latter is usually what causes the friction.

  9. Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

    Jonn, your house your rules. I would not enter your home and insult my host, my mother would be horrified by such behavior and I would rightly understand a request to leave under that circumstance.

    You offer a semi-public forum as I see it, in that all are welcome to come and discuss veteran’s issues and the news topics of the day using the colorful language many of us learned while serving. Semi-public means to me that many of the views and opinions are those of that component of the public sharing a common interest and while opposing views might be welcome and encouraged general buffoonery and asshattedness are not welcome.

    As you point out a discussion amongst adults while hotly debated is acceptable, idiocy can be verboten. These are not difficult concepts to comprehend, those who are unable to solve these simple equations belong elsewhere as you say.

    I appreciate the opportunity granted to me on this site to voice my often minority opinion and I expect to be soundly chastised when appropriate or lauded on occasion for the few times I am on point. Others would do well to remember it’s okay to disagree, just try not to be a doink while in disagreement.

  10. MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) says:

    MCPO: Stands, with hands folded in front, head tilted slightly forward, and says, “Jonn I am so sorry for my nasty mouth, despondent attitude towards others, and continued loathing of: liberal loving lackies (L3’s); the French; ungreatfull Koreans; former Soviet thugs; the British, their Queen, their teeth; and vegans.

    Jonn: “Sit down and shut up”.

    MCPO” “OK”.

  11. Anonymous says:

    What thread did all this go down on?

  12. NR Pax says:

    Thank you, Jonn. Much appreciated.

  13. OWB says:

    Trolls are much like an uninvited guest at a holiday family dinner who decides to take a dump in the middle of the living room. Come to think of it, so are liberals.

  14. Tman says:

    Sad that people are falling for the bait and trying to “debate” the trolls on here.

    It’s obvious these trolls get a thrill from the attention they receive from their inflammatory postings.

    I just ignore them.

  15. UpNorth says:

    Understood and appreciated.

  16. NHSparky says:

    VOV–sort of disagree. You can be an idiot. But you better be ready to be called on it and acknowledge when you are one.

  17. Ex-PH2 says:

    VOV, I figure I’m going to get the dogpile treatment, no matter what, because it’s MAN COUNTRY!!!!

    OK, I’ll go away now.

  18. Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

    @17 Sadly I’ve done that on more than a single occasion…the acknowledgement part, usually preceded by the idiocy part.

  19. Old Tanker says:

    #12 Anon,

    It happens from time to time, the thread that prompted this was about Chris Kyle’s death. Joe started it with comment #1…..

  20. Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

    @18 not from me darlin! I like those cookies!

  21. Ex-PH2 says:

    Thanks, VOV.

    TMan, I think some people find a release in responding to the trolls. Look at all the creative writing that arose from our encounters with D. Whipitnflogit. Where else can you find such a lengthy stream of dialogue that makes you laugh until your sides hurt?

  22. Lucky says:

    Lucky’s NY Resolution #1: I will not feed the trolls, I will not feed the trolls, I will not feed the trolls…

  23. brat says:

    Your house, your rules. I learned early on to enable comment moderation because I will NOT allow either Military bashing, 9/11 Families bashing. I realised I couldn’t monitor comments 24/7, so reluctantly went to moderation. I now have quite the file of comments that won’t EVAAAAAAH see the light of day, and I am okay with that.

  24. Joe Williams says:

    Jonn your house your rules. Hearing the same crap from 40plus years later just took me over the top. Joe

  25. PintoNag says:

    Does this mean we can’t dog-pile Joe anymore? (Rock Climber, not Joe W. above.)

  26. Mustang says:

    If you have to eventually resort to registration then I doubt you’ll get much argument from the regulars. I run a tech blog and while I don’t have trolls, I had to implement registration just to keep the bots out.

  27. Ex-PH2 says:

    So, is it “Abandon hope, all ye trolls who dare to enter here”?

    Or “Yea, though I walk through the Valley of Hate and Discontent, I shall fear no trolls ’cause I’m the meanest Fuddpucker in the Valley”?

  28. Just A Vet says:

    Thank you Sir!

  29. Old Tanker says:


    Love your interpretation of Psalm 23!!

  30. SFC Holland says:

    Much respect and thanks to you. You are doing God’s work. Drive on brother.

  31. Joe says:

    Funny, they refer to me as “Rock Climber Joe” or “Socialist Rock Climber Joe” – I haven’t roped up on a serious climb in 35 years.

    • Jonn Lilyea says:

      Yeah, Joe, you made the cut this time, but only because you & I have a history. I had some emails asking to ban you last night, too, but I went with my gut. But some of that stuff you said the other day made it tough. So….I’m not asking you to change your politics, just to be a little more sensitive to the audience here.

  32. PintoNag says:

    @32 Well, how would you rather we distinguish between you and Joe Williams? You want we should call you Thing One and Thing Two?

    I would like to hear about your most serious climb, by the way.

  33. Joe says:

    Yes, OK. Again I reflexively saw the Chris Kyle thing as a “story”, didn’t even think you guys knew him, or only had a couple of degrees of seperation from him. That was pretty rude of me now that I reflect on it. In my own defense, I think I learned many lessons on how to insult people on this site, everyone, myself included, tends to escalate these discussions. But point taken.

  34. Why not? I got banned from posting on DU after one comment!

  35. Hondo says:

    Joe – the Chief Kyle incident is water under the bridge. We get it, and you had the guts to apologize. That’s worth something.

  36. Yat Yas 1833 says:

    Mr. Lilyea, THANK YOU!!! I’ll admit I love reading a good discourse because a large majority of the time I learn something but when some of the above mentioned get involved the discourse goes right down the crapper and bedlam ensues. Please continue to let conversations run their course but also keep a sharp eye out for the troublemakers.


    Yat Yas 1833
    pore dum jarhed

  37. Jonn Lilyea says:

    For the record, I hate to moderate people. I like the spirited discussions here, but I sense a conspiracy from a certain group to drag this blog down because they seem to show up in clusters.

  38. Ex-PH2 says:

    I think that’s a personal choice. I’ve improved my skill in the fine art of a well-deserved set-down, thanks to the trolls, and have managed to survive the blaring light of being allowed to enter MAN COUNTRY!!! 🙂