UMich; No-whites-allowed space

| February 23, 2017

A student activist group at the University of Michigan is demanding campus officials provide them with “a permanent designated space on central campus for Black students and students of color to organize and do social justice work.”


The clamor for a segregated space for students of color to organize social justice efforts comes even as the public university builds a $10 million center for black students in the center of campus.

$10,000,000 in Public funds to promote segregation in a Public Institution.

In their demands, students explain why the new black student center is not enough, “because we want a space solely dedicated to community organizing and social justice work specifically for people of color.”


This list of demands also call for more support for “marginalized” students “when oppressive attacks occur,” increasing the affirmative action of “Black, Arab, and other PoC” in tenured faculty, more readily alerting students on campus of “bias incidents,” and offering more financial aid for those of lower socioeconomic status.


“Our president has blatantly ignored us and it is time for us to speak up. We have been told that our demands are ‘rude,’” the group states on Facebook in announcing its petition. “We are calling on someone to care about students’ concerns and to lead us with integrity and help us fight against the oppression and hateful acts that try to destroy us and our community.”

Schuette v. Coalition to Defend Affirmative Action, upheld the ban on affirmative action for public institutions. Perhaps the snowflakes should spend more time in the classroom and less time organizing and doing social work on the tax payers dime.


UMich students demand no-whites-allowed space to plot ‘social justice’ activism

This is not an isolated incident.

Black students demand segregated spaces from white students


Category: "Teh Stoopid", Politics

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  1. Stoneledgeman says:

    is this not a public funded university? Stop this madness now!

    • desert says:

      Don’t believe for one minute that a bunch of communist professors are right in the middle of this stirring the pot!!

  2. The Other Whitey says:

    I seem to recall a little thing called Brown v Board of Education that held racial segregation to be unconstitutional and, you know, racist. Civil rights activists at the time (back when they actually cared about civil rights) called it a major victory.

    And here we are, having come full circle. Certain black kids with heads full of SJW chickenshit are demanding a racially-segregated facility be created. For all his faults, Martin Luther King would puke if he saw this.

    • Poetrooper says:

      My high school in Chickasha, Oklahoma, quietly and without incident, integrated in 1957, my sophomore year. We were several years ahead of much of the state including our major cities, Oklahoma City and Tulsa. Oklahoma wasn’t exactly Deep South, but it was definitely the South, with the eastern part of the state being referred to as Little Dixie.

      My first memory of those black students is how they self-segregated outside of class and gym and off the football field. They made no effort to associate with the white students and any efforts by any of those white students to do so were quickly rebuffed. That was essentially the situation as well at Norman High School where I graduated.

      When I enlisted in the Army in 1959, I found that a similar situation existed, the units were fully integrated for living and training purposes and the NCO’s would not allow the black troops to segregate themselves in one section of the platoon bay. However, the moment the work day or work week ended, the black soldiers essentially disappeared.

      At Fort Campbell in those days there were two main NCO Clubs, one for whites and Hispanics, the other for blacks. As a PFC MP I was in the black NCO Club frequently, called in to quell the frequent fights that broke out. We MP’s were always the only whites in that huge room that was jammed with black men and women who were mostly drunk or stoned. Taking one or more of them into custody was a risky business indeed. It was not a call we liked to respond to when on post patrol. But it was yet another example of black self-segregation that I was to see throughout my six years of active duty.

      Even in Vietnam, we went out on operations fully integrated and fought that way, but when we came back to base camp, as soon as the NCO’s released the troops, the blacks disappeared to their own gatherings. In the towns they had their own bars and if you stumbled into one you were quickly informed that your presence was an unwelcome intrusion.

      I asked my black squad leader about this propensity to self-segregate and where they all disappeared to when we were in base camp. To satisfy my curiosity, he took me with him to a wooded area behind the perimeter where a group of black soldiers were gathered drinking, smoking dope and listening to loud music. All that stopped when Frankie and I walked into the clearing. I was immediately told to leave by several of these soldiers and the boldest got into Frankie’s face for bringing me. That got his ass stomped into the dirt very quickly but even so, I told Frankie it was best for me to leave, and did.

      When I went to college 1967-71, this pattern of behavior continued: black students had one area of the UTEP student union lounge that was theirs’ exclusively. Even with the huge number of Hispanics we had in El Paso, they too, were excluded from that black section of the student union.

      So I have been witnessing this self-segregation tendency of blacks for over fifty years and as far as I’m concerned, let them do it, but just not under the color of law, a law which would be unconstitutional on its face in any event.

      By the way, for any who think I’m a racist, as I sit here typing this, the two closest homes outside my sun room windows are owned by black families, one a retired Army NCO and his RN wife. We all get along just fine.

      • MSG Eric says:

        In 1994 I saw the same thing in Basic Training. We trained together, but when the training day was over, all the black guys were off on their own. Coming from Hawaii I went over there a few times to try to meet everyone and didn’t necessarily get told to leave, but it wasn’t like I was welcomed. I didn’t understand it then because I didn’t have that issue growing up.

        Though I would also say that when I became an instructor, all of us instructors hung out together regardless of black, white, etc.

        A similar situation happens in prisons. Regardless of your background, upbringing, etc., you go hang with the group your skin color matches, white, hispanic, black, asian, etc. and that’s how it is whether you agree or not.

        • desert says:

          Yep same in the Navy in 1959-1963,,and how many of the a.h.s have been hollering about desegregation for the past 60 years? moronic, brainwash turds that listen to the likes of sharpton, jackson and ferry Khan!!

      • Yef says:

        Wow. You have lived a long live and seen and done a lot of shit.

      • Mark says:

        I agree that the University of Michigan students’ request/demand is counterproductive and ill-advised.

        On the other hand, Poetrooper’s sociology theory–the “self-segregation tendency of blacks…”–does not address some important questions:

        * Given the tendency of white students or white prisoners, etc. to congregate together, why do you not discuss the “self-segregation tendency of whites”? (Same could be asked about a “self-segregation tendency of Latinos”)

        * Why do you believe this “self-segregation tendency of blacks” exists? You seem to view it unfavorably, but you do not discuss possible causes for this tendency?

        * Does this “self-segregation tendency of blacks” occur in all environments and contexts, e.g., among jazz musicians? Among athletes? Among fans of rap music? Among co-workers at all types of workplaces?

        * Does the “self-segregation tendency of blacks” apply equally to black men and black women? How about gay black men and lesbian black women? Religious vs. non-religious black people?

        My main point is that you write as if your perceptions of your observations logically lead exclusively to concluding that your theory accurately describes a social phenomenon almost anywhere, at anytime, and in any context. That’s a ginormous claim based on one man’s perceptions, observations, and opinions.

        • Poetrooper says:

          Mark, this old man simply related his observations from a long life. You want to drag me into the pernicious weeds of your root causes. Screw you and screw that. My observations are a damned sight more valid than your silly-ass liberal postulations.

          By the way, what the hell does this mean:

          “My main point is that you write as if your perceptions of your observations logically lead exclusively to concluding that your theory accurately describes a social phenomenon almost anywhere, at anytime, and in any context. That’s a ginormous claim based on one man’s perceptions, observations, and opinions.”

          That’s total fucking liberal gobbledygook, junior. Learn to write.

          • rgr769 says:

            Poe, these liberal dickweeds always leap to conclusions which support their parallel universe predilections, irrespective of all contrary facts and evidence. I served in the 509th PIR in Germany in the late 60’s. The rifle companies in both battalions were about 40% black. In my company all the platoon sargeants were black. I observed the same tendency of black EM to self-segregate, even though there was no evidence of any racial discrimination within the unit. Also, the black NCO’s were some of the finest professional soldiers I ever served with.

          • Mark says:

            OK, I agree that my last sentence was not very well written.

            And, I may have misinterpreted your post as implying that this “self – segregation tendency” is a bad thing. If that is the case, I stand corrected.

            I also agree with you that insisting on segregation at public institutions would be unconstitutional.

            I am not sure why seeking an understanding of this tendency is “pernicious”. I was thinking that perhaps it would help if I, as a white man, better understood why black people might want to separate themselves. But I could’ve stated that more clearly.

            • Commissioner Wretched says:

              Mark, how exactly would it “help” if you understood why anybody does anything? No matter how clearly (or otherwise) you stated your question, the question remains a non-sequitir. What possible difference can you make if people of one particular ethnic group (NOT a race, because we are all the same race – Homo sapiens sapiens) wish to gather together? Why would you even bother worrying about such things?

              • Mark says:

                There are many reasons why it is helpful to understand the causes of human behavior.

                But I will offer you just one example.

                Many African-American men have told me (and others) that ‘sticking together’ has been a survival mechanism for centuries in the United States.

                “You have to understand that for our fathers, and grandfathers, and great-grands, and on back, letting a white person into your trusted circle of family and friends was a damn stupid thing to do. It was often deadly.”

                Of course, you could tell those black guys that they shouldn’t let their fathers or grandfathers influence their beliefs because “things are different now” or “slavery ended 150 years ago”, if that’s what you believe (I don’t know). But you might want to talk with them first and make sure you fully understand their perspective.

                • Commissioner Wretched says:

                  I’m a Native American. Trust me, I understand that perspective.

                  The problem is … as long as that attitude is nurtured, it will never be outgrown.

                  I have outgrown it. They can too.

            • Marine0331 says:

              In today’s society, why would ANYONE who for years complained of segregation, want to remain segregated? Makes NO Fucking sense to me. Stupidassed Liberal talk.

        • Ret_25X says:

          It is in group preference and is a well known, well studied, well documented reality.

          The theory has been substantiated in various areas, but most notably in economic research to understand purchase or investment behaviors.

          So yes, Poetrooper’s personal anecdotes do, in fact, represent the correct understanding of a general field theory which survives research and peer reviewed study.


          • Mark says:

            Ret_25X – Ok, that’s helpful to know. I guess I don’t understand why it is important in the context of the University of Michigan story?

            The sense I got from Poetrooper’s post (and please correct me if I’m wrong) is that the “self-segregation tendency of blacks” is a negative or detrimental behavior. If that is what he or you believe, I would want to understand why and how it is harmful.

            (Note that I am not referring to the students demand for ‘nonwhite space’, which I agree is not legally defensible.

    • Pinto Nag says:

      Most ‘people of color’ also have a race. White is ONLY a color, and most Americans of European stock are identified as white or Caucasian. So, technically, they aren’t engaging in racism. Which makes me wonder if we will all eventually have to declare a ‘race’ so those of us who are ‘color-challenged’ won’t be discriminated against?

      • rgr769 says:

        Maybe we should just self-identify like Ms. Dolezal.

      • Marine0331 says:

        Personally I guess I can call myself a, German, American Indian (Powhatan Tribe), English, Irish American? Wow. What a mouthful!!!

      • Ex-PH2 says:

        The only place I’m color-challenged is trying to make two colors that clash work together on a canvas. 🙂

        Gee, I’m Scottish, Irish, English, Cornish, French, maybe a smidgeon of Sicilian since one of my more distant ancestors ruled Sicily 10 centuries ago, Celtic, probably some western Kazah or Tajik in there somewhere, but when you get down to the nitty-gritty of it, I’m human.

        And some day, we are going to find ourselves on the opposite side of the table facing other species that are just as smart as we are who want to destroy us because they want our turf.

        I think this self-identification thing is totally bogus, destructive, and divisive, and we can’t afford that.

        • Marine0331 says:

          Well said!!!! And I never understood why anyone who wants to come to this country or lived here and or was born and em Raised here just can’t call yourself AMERICAN!!!!

  3. 68W58 says:

    Rachel Dolezal-allowed in or not?

  4. Joseph Williams says:

    To the UMich students. No your demands are not rude. In your own words ,they are racist. Joe

  5. Green Thumb says:

    Stupid is as stupid does.

    Way to drive a wedge.

    To hell with equal rights; I want special rights!

  6. Martinjmpr says:

    What’s next? A demand for separate water fountains? 😀

    (OK, I admit I stole that from a very old “Doonesbury” comic strip from back in the 70’s when even an uber-liberal like Garry Trudeau could see how ridiculous the “racial identity” movement was.)

    • HMCS(FMF) ret says:

      And then it will be separate bathrooms, dining facilities, dorms, etc… Hell, just go BALLS DEEP and ask for Jim Crow rules and regulations on campus.

      If MLK was still alive, I’d think that he’d be crying over this.

      • Atkron says:

        Sadly his Acolyte Jesse Jackson and that other Congressman fella have been promoting and profiting from the bastardization of Dr. King’s vision.

        • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

          Haven’t they been working like hell to bastardize it since Rev. King’s death?

        • MSG Eric says:

          When you say that other Congressman fella, I’m not quite sure who. That could be just about Every democrat in Congress, and even a few Republicans.

  7. SFC D says:

    Students, there is such a place where you can segregate yourselves according to the color of your skin, congregate and plan, organize your social justice work. It’s called YOUR HOME. You pay for it and you can invite or disinvite anyone you choose. Your parents and grandparents should be real proud of how you are systematically destroying and pissing on the hard work they put in to gain equality and civil rights.

  8. Mick says:




    Did I forget anything?

  9. Graybeard says:

    OK, just don’t send any of our children/grandchildren to these racist institutions, encourage the alumni association to stop all contributions to their hijacked alma mater, sue to end all state support of any racist entities.

    Punch back twice as hard.

  10. Ex-PH2 says:

    Doesn’t this demand violate the 1964 Civil Rights Act in more ways that I can count?

    Gee, and I thought racism was supposed to be a thing of the past. All those black kids I went to college with back in 1970 must be hanging their heads in embarrassment at what their grandchildren are doing.

    Shades of Little Rock!

    • ex-OS2 says:

      “Doesn’t this demand violate the 1964 Civil Rights Act in more ways that I can count?”

      Absolutely, and the outrage is ear-splitting.

  11. TankBoy says:

    Voluntary re-segregation. Burning books. Denying free speech. How is it no one on the left has seen the historical parallels and lunacy? That this is in any way okay?

    • Commissioner Wretched says:

      Possibly, TB, because the left only sees such when their imaginations lead them to think that the right is either doing it, or planning to do it? They worry so much about the speck in the right’s eye, that they ignore the giant Sequoia growing in their own.

    • Mick says:

      ‘Voluntary re-segregation. Burning books. Denying free speech.’

      I’m wondering how long it will be before they break out the brown shirts and the arm bands. Because from my perspective, that’s precisely where they’re headed.

      • Ex-PH2 says:

        Let them head that way, Mick. Get out of their way, watch the parade, right into an inferno of their own making.

      • The Other Whitey says:

        I don’t know about you, but when they do that, I’m gonna lock & load.

        Interestinglyly enough, my go-to SHTF rifle is a Garand, the origin of the above phrase…

        • Mick says:

          Yes indeed. And I don’t believe that any of these silly-ass ‘protesters’ really understand the true magnitude of what they could face if they push things too far. They’re complacent in their apparent belief that they will always be able to get away with acting without consequence or repercussion.

          • Ex-PH2 says:

            Exactly. They see no consequence to it at all. They have NEVER given a thought to the consequences of what they decide to do.

        • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

          “I don’t know about you, but when they do that, I’m gonna lock & load.”

          I live in a CCW State thus I pretty much stay locked and loaded all the time and stay discreet about it. AS TO those snot-nosed candyassed liberal snowflakes, i son’t see them having their mass hissyfits outside of very blue localities and I’m sure it’s because among their herders are people that know there are lots of people in Red State America that WILL NOT put up with them and their shit in their neighborhoods which are chock full of people who work their asses off for an honest living and hve neither the time or patience to put up with them and their shit. It’s also likely they’ll get thrown out on their asses like in this video where some New Black Panther shitpot stirrers were made to lick the proverbial spoon when they showed up to “protest” in front of a home where the owner shot and killed two burglars:

    • MSG Eric says:

      Because in political movements, the end justifies the means. They will justify it to themselves no matter what, by using every talking point they can google to ensure they don’t feel bad about it at all.

  12. Commissioner Wretched says:

    This whole “demands” thing reminds me of when those bizarros at Mizzou presented their list of “demands” to their administration. I read over that list (as I read over this foolish group’s list) and said at the time that, if I were the President of a college or university where a group of students made such “demands,” my response would be as follows:

    1. I would tear up the list in front of their eyes.
    2. I would say, “There is a recognized procedure to present requests from student groups to the administration. Use it. And remember, you don’t get to ‘demand’ a damn thing here.”
    3. Then I would add, “Anyone who is still in this office thirty seconds after I finish this sentence will be expelled from this university immediately, with no refund of tuition costs.”
    4. I’d start the timer.
    5. I’d follow through immediately.

  13. Deplorable B Woodman says:

    Along with all of the above, my additional 2 cents…..
    Social Justice….SOCIAL JUSTICE??!!
    What happened to “equal justice” under the law?
    You think (ppfffttt!!) that because of your skin color due to an accident of birth, that you’re deserving of more justice then me?
    Explain, please, in an essay of no less then 1000 words, typed, single spaced, with footnotes and references.
    That is all. You are excused.

    • Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

      Well yes they do think that, and our government has helped that perception. By failing to properly punish felony assault and murder we’ve allowed the government to “correct” the problem by introducing hate crimes…creating special victim classes because of the failings of proper prosecution previously.

      Once the government decides some are more worthy victims than others you’ve created a legal precedent that allows some animals to be more equal than others…and those more equal animals don’t much care for being treated the same as the “lesser” animals.

      Once again proving be careful how you vote because it matters, not just for president but for state and local elections even more.

    • Silentium Est Aureum says:

      Problem is, there are those who mistakenly think justice is getting the result they want.

      My late uncle’s girlfriend (a black attorney, btw) explained, justice is a process, not a result. Just because you didn’t get what you wanted, you still were allowed to go through the ssystem on a (hopefully) level playing field.

      Equal isn’t enough for some people. They feel that they should be given special advantage because one of their ancestors God knows how many generations ago was denied equal rights. Sorry, not gonna happen.

  14. Doc Savage says:

    OMG…I’m laughing so hard I nearly tossed my cookies…

    These people want go back to the time before Brown v. The Board of Education?

    Is the irony lost on them??

  15. Ex-PH2 says:

    I’m waiting for the ‘Heils!’ to start.

    Thank the Gods of the Internet that all this incredible stupidity is exposed to the light of day for reasoning people to see it, uncensored.

  16. Atkron says:

    Since you can’t rightly say it on your own post. Let an ex-AMH2 help you out:


  17. timactual says:

    “Our president has blatantly ignored us and it is time for us to speak up”

    I assume they are talking about Obama, since Trump hasn’t been in office long enough to find the men’s room.

    Then again, given the Obama administration’s “guidance” about the toilet situation it is likely that nobody can find a men’s room. The Rose Garden is probably very well watered and fertilized by now. Hopefully the South Lawn is still suitable for the Easter egg hunt. (Avoid yellow snow and chocolate easter eggs)

    • MSG Eric says:

      Haven’t you seen the news for the last 3 months? They’ve been blaming trump for anything and everything since Nov 8th. Including drone strikes, the economy, bureaucratic failures, pardons and commutations, and so on and so on.

  18. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    It seems like an epidemic among college campuses, look at this bunch of dirty-diapered toddler-minded candyassed snowflakes at UC Berzerkely:

  19. Roger in Republic says:

    I say give them what they want. Convert an old campus building into the white free center. Give them a few hundred dollars to clean it up, stock it with surplus furniture and let them self fund things like lights and heat.

    Once they occupy the building, immediately institute a new set of rules for People of Color students.
    1. They must be indoors after sundown.
    2. When entering any campus building other than the free space, they must enter by the back door.
    3. The last two rows of seats in lecture halls are reserved for POC students.
    4. Once those seats have been filled POC students are forbidden from occupying any seats other than the POC reserved seats.
    5. POC students will eat in a reserved area of the dining hall. That space will be just inside the back door, next to the refuge containers.
    6. POC will not participate in student government or be allowed to vote in campus elections.
    7. Any violations of these rules will result in summary expulsion without recourse to appeal.

    If they want to go back the time of segregation they should have to go all the way back.
    Each of these rules come directly from the Jim Crow laws that ruled black people’s lives before the Civil rights acts of 1965-66.
    These idiots are too young to remember how it was under Jim Crow, but I remember.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      I remember my Grandmother telling me about some of them, POC were only allowed to eat outside at the local Ice Cream Parlor and only allowed to sit in the balcony at the local theater. I grew up in a racially mixed town in the seventies knowing some of the people that DID have to live under that and I’m sure they’d look at today’s college snowflakes and ask something like “WTF are you thinking, punks?”.

  20. The Other Whitey says:

    I believe I’ve mentioned my brother-in-law’s Grandma on here before. She’s practically my adoptive/surrogate Grandma, I call her “Grandma,” I love her like my own grandmother*, and she’s black, and a retired inner-city schoolteacher. She’s a pretty good teacher, too, as she still gives my nephew, nieces, and my kids studies and assignments to complete, since she doesn’t trust the modern curriculum. This is why my 11-year-old nephew can do calculus without breaking a sweat.

    She’s been thoroughly appalled at all the crap like this that we’ve seen lately. She’s old enough to remember a time when she couldn’t use a particular bathroom, shop at a particular store, or sit on a particular bench because of her skin color. She feels utterly betrayed by these lefty shitshows from whiny dickheads who don’t know what real discrimination is like.

    * She actually looks a lot like my actual Grandma (God rest her) did, except she’s black. Seriously, skin color aside, they look like they could be sisters.

  21. HMC Ret says:

    I love to see the liberal students eating their own, the liberal administration/professors.

    Having said that, fuck them.

    The ONE thing these asshole admins understand is money. Money talks and bullshit walks.

    Fuck them.

  22. bullnav says:

    Another reason I (don’t) love living next to AA. I almost never go to downtown, and certainly don’t go through U of M. You should see the bullshit going on at the crosstown school EMU…

  23. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    All the legal obstacles aside, I say go for it. And after graduation, the students may demand that they be interviewed for jobs by only non-whites, that their employer be non-white, that their managers, supervisors, and co-workers be non-white, and that the customers of whatever products the employer makes or services the employer delivers be non-white. Yeah, go for it. I’m sure it will work out.

    • Commissioner Wretched says:

      I love how they say that enforcing laws is “unfair.” Or, as Tony Baretta used to say, “If you can’t do the time, then don’t do the crime.”

      Sad to notice that so many “young SJWs” are bailing on the “protests” because they don’t want to do 10 years in the slam.


    • Ex-PH2 says:

      Thank you, Graybeard. I see by the text in that captured part that they really do think destruction and chaos are better than anything civilization has to offer. The disconnect from reality indicates a serious case of denial. Glad to know that they gte 10 years in jail and fines for their destruction. I guess that’s why they call it the cooler.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      LMAO while Bubba & Thor get a few more for their harem!

      • HMCS(FMF) ret says:

        Julio and Mr. “Tiny” will get “pick of the litter”… and many never forget Mr. “Tiny”!

  24. Silentium Est Aureum says:

    I love how people who have likely never experienced discrimination are lashing out and people who have likely never practiced discrimination.

    The mind boggles.

    • Silentium Est Aureum says:

      At people. FML.

      Then again, the lefties snowflakes feel guilt for shit they’ve never done.

      Sorry, SJWs, most of us don’t feel guilt for what we haven’t done.

      Next case.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      They’ll be sorry. What goes around comes around, you know.

  25. Just An Old Dog says:

    When the Bulldozers are done with UC Berkeley they can move in on this shit hole.

  26. PFM says:

    Welcome to the new PC Separate But Equal. Should be interesting to see what happens on a public (and publicly funded) campus…wonder if the student Federal loans will be affected if they approve this?

  27. David says:

    So they are saying they’d be happier up on the reservation?