Weekend open thread

| August 11, 2017 | 183 Comments

You’ll probably want to jump ahead to about 9:30 for the view of Sicily Drop Zone on Fort Bragg, because, in the military, life is hours of boredom punctuated by moments of sheer terror.

National Airborne Day is five days out.

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  1. Silentium Est Aureum says:


  2. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    Top five and Honorary First!

  3. AW1Ed says:

    Happy weekend, TAH’ers!

  4. ChipNASA says:

    Top ten. I wasn’t going to pee in my chair just for a WOT second or first.

  5. Silentium Est Aureum says:

    Actually, I’d like to congratulate TSO and Mrs. TSO for the latest additions to their family.

    Hopefully all is well and you’re once again ready for all those sleepless nights.

  6. Graybeard says:

    The agenda around the Graybeard Compound this weekend revolves around moving our d-i-l back across Texas to the Compound as our son works up to a coming deployment.

    Wouldn’t you know it – he transfers out of his AB unit just in time to deploy with his new unit. At least on the GB Compound d-i-l has a strong support network.

    • David says:

      May JJ Watt show up to help like an HEB ad.

      • Graybeard says:

        That’s funny because our son works for a HEB Foundation entity.
        Actually their church is showing up to load the truck, so I suppose JJ can spend his time helping those without the support network we have. (I wouldn’t decline his help, either.)

        I’m primarily the truck driver – which includes responsibility for the logistics for balancing the load.

  7. Commissioner Wretched says:

    I figure I’m around 10th this week. C’est la vie.

  8. Toasty Coastie says:

    I move for pics of those beautiful additions to the TSO clan 😀 <3

  9. Sapper3307 says:

    First out the door, GREEN LIGHT, GO!

  10. IDC SARC says:

    Wo0t! Many a landing there.

  11. Claw says:

    Big doings here at Stately Claw Manor for this weekend and into next week.

    Both sons and grandkids, plus adopted daughter, will all be congregating for Mrs. Claw’s 70th lap around the sun this coming Tuesday.

    So may not be able to be a frequent commenter for a few days.

    Scoobys ready for cake and ice cream. Wish us luck.

  12. Hondo says:

    Ten days, Danni-boi.

    Lady Karma, I hear she’s comin’ to see ya. And I understand she ain’t smilin’.

    • Silentium Est Aureum says:

      She’s a bitch, and she’s in heat.

      Jessup, little Danni-boi. You’ll be passed around like mashed taters at Thanksgiving dinner.

    • Tallywhagger says:

      Those lady-judges have been tearing his ass up in court.

      Too bad they don’t do public whippings, anymore. Posers and pussy-hatters are being denied their social justice and civil righteousness.

      Poor Danni-boi, if he can make it through the first week, or so, in jail, the spasms and convulsions will eventually subside.

      Karma can be cathartic. Not to be confused with catheterized. I guess.

  13. Hack Stone says:

    Any truth to the rumor that when Daniel Bernath’s lawsuit against the airplane manufacturer got tossed out, he then sued the operators of Sisters Airport because if they would have installed their runway 200 yards to the south, he never would have crashed?

  14. Wilted Willy says:

    Sorry, I didn’t even come in close this week! Wish me luck on my surgery next Friday, I am praying that I get to keep my bladder. I don’t really want to wear a piss purse the rest of my life! I hope you all have a great weekend, I should hear back from Trump’s VA hotline next week on the investigation into my pos brothers life of lies. Let’s hope he is presented with the silver bracelet award with valor!!!

  15. OC says:

    Good Luck WW, you’ll be in my thoughts and prayers.

    Regards, OC

  16. David says:

    I may have work to do outside but with 110 degree heat index in the forecast, I am going to invent every inside job I can… gotta install the wife’s new faucet and do some stock inletting for a friend. Maybe binge watch some car porn…

  17. Ex-PH2 says:

    I was out getting stamps and mailing stuff. Anything important happen? No? Good, ’cause I’m going back to running my errands.

    Congrats to Mr.& Mrs. TSO and Viole(n)t.

    It’s going to rain. Should be fun.

  18. sj says:

    Lot more room (and less noise) in that airplane than the ole C119’s and even the 130’s.

    Those troopers had probably “getting ready” for that drop for around 6 hours of hurry up and wait. Airborne!

  19. 26Limabeans says:

    I got dizzy and almost heaved watching the first minute of that video.

  20. Twist says:

    Sadly I had to give up my Blue Heeler for adoption yesterday. No matter what I tried I couldn’t get her to stop nipping and herding the grandkids so I had to choose between her and them.

    • Graybeard says:

      Sometimes that is all you can do.
      I took in a dumped pup one time – smart as a whip and overall a good dog, except aggressive to the neighbors’ dogs to the nth. After I spent $350 fixing a neighbors’ fiest I hauled him off to the animal shelter and spent another $75 to keep from having to use my .22 on him.

      I was always thinking of the chance that he could turn on my grandkids as well.

      • David says:

        Had to return a lovely red heeler similarly… loved us but growled at the kids when they approached us. I’m much more a dog guy than cat guy but in a matchup with my kids…the dog was gone.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      This is why I prefer German Shepherds and Dobies. Both smart as a whip, both loyal and sweet, both good at all obedience skills including schutzhunding. The only drawback for me with Dobes is the very thin coat they are born with, which is not a good thing in a cold climate. Shepherds – best dog I ever had was a Shepherd I found at an animal shelter. I still miss her after all this time.

      • Graybeard says:

        I prefer Labrador mixes.
        The best pup I ever cared for was my brother’s Golden Retriever. Excellent around kids, a terror to intruders. Hated to have to give her back to him. 😉

        Ever since, whenever possible it has been a lab mix.

        Picked up a Lab/Great Pyrenees from the side of the road once. Excellent with our kids/grandkids, but a real threat to neighbors. Had to be careful with him.

        • Twist says:

          I still have my Labrador. He is an awesome dog, but sucks at being a lab. I swear he is the only one on the planet that hates water. If he gets loose he will roam the neighborhood checking out the ladies and won’t come to you until he is good and ready. The only way to get him to come to you is to get to where he can see you and then ignore him.

        • Thunderstixx says:

          I have a Schlab.
          Part Schnauzer and Lab.
          Best dog with a Frisbee I have ever seen.
          Loves to play with it but she has bad hips like so many dogs do nowadays.
          She’s got the moustache of a Schnauzer and has a great personality.
          I love my baby doggie.
          Her idea of doggie fun is riding around in the car and barking at… Whatever…
          goofy doggie…

  21. Perry Gaskill says:

    I’ve lately started setting aside items for the WOT that tend to reflect recent updates of other threads, or tie in obliquely. Here’s a first attempt at posting some:

    Tennessean Editorial

    Anybody following the immigration debate has probably noticed a trend in the mainstream media. It used to be that people who snuck into the country were called “illegal aliens” which was then changed to “undocumented workers.” Now it’s changed again to simply “immigrants” so there is no distinction between who’s here legally and who’s not.

    Apparently, somebody at a major metro newspaper has decided enough is enough. An editorial in Nashville’s Tennessean calls out the rest of the press for an insidious trend. The Tennessean should get an attaboy for having the stones to go against the echo chamber.

    Salon/Alternet On Mueller Probe

    Giving credit where due, there was a strange piece in Salon about how, while the Russiagate probe has been annoying to progressive liberals, it hasn’t actually turned up anything, well, illegal. Basically, Robert Mueller couldn’t be on more of a fishing expedition if he carried a tackle box and bait bucket to work.

    Yvette And The Food Guru

    I’ll cheerfully admit to being a sexist pig on some topics such as, say, females playing in the NFL. Another area where the male gender seems to have the edge is when it comes to creatively crude and humiliating insults. Anybody who has ever watched a drill sergeant bellow in a recruit’s face, “When I talk to you, I want to see your ears point, maggot” knows what I’m talking about.

    So it was with some surprise to see a truly gifted world-class rant by a writer named Yvette d’Entremont on the apparently charlatan food guru David Avocado Wolfe. Nicely done, Yvette. Your metaphorical and honorary Smokey-the-Bear hat is in the mail.

  22. Skyjumper says:

    Didn’t even try to make “numero uno” today, was too busy picking cukes & ‘maters in the garden. Congrats SEA!

    For all of my Viet Of The Nam brothers & sisters on TAH, here is the latest news about the VA deciding on adding more medical conditions to the roster concerning Agent Orange.

    Looks like there might be a more than average chance of some of them being approved. Bladder cancer is one of them.

    Might not be a bad idea to now start gathering, any and all information, documentation, medical records, etc. that you have if you have had this medical issue so that you can be ready to file.


    • Texas Nomad says:

      Hypertension? Rate among non-Vet population in that age group is around 70%. Every boots-on-the-ground vet with hypertension will be eligible.

      The massive backlog will be glorious for veterans service orgs.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      High blood pressure? And I’ve been so careful to avoid things that will cause that.

      In regard to AO exposure from being in-country VN, I’d like to know how those studies and their results compare to the spill accident at a chemical plant in Seveso, Italy in 1976. Dioxsin is a major component of Agent Orange.

      That would be an interesting comparison.

  23. Yef says:

    Well, this weekend I am playing/fighting with my kids, 5 and 3yo, then drinking PBR and playing Civilization 6 while listening to Paradise Lost’s new album and playing with the missus, then pass out, then wake up in the morning when the kids come out running and start jumping over me, then repeat.

    What are you guys doing?

  24. HMCS(FMF) ret says:

    Provisional Proxy First, yet again!

  25. Twist says:

    When I was stationed at Camp Atterbury we had a female civilian employee had a sign on her desk that said “Sexual harassment will not be reported. It will be rated on a scale of 1-10”.

  26. Roh-Dog says:

    So National Airborne Day is five days out…?
    -points to lower hatch-
    That’s not the only thing that’s out.
    Get it.
    The python is loose.

  27. Frankie Cee says:

    True to form, Stolen Valorist Kyle Barwan is still scamming, still using major lies in his game. He is telling people where he lives that he is an “agemt for the government” and he has a list of people that must be eliminated, and that if they bring up his name he will kill them too. He has duped one girl into thinking that everything at Gooogle about him, and at TAH is all lies. Also telling them that “Frankie Cee is trying to ruin his life. I found a message from a stranger the other morning, saying “Frankie, I need your help.” This lady laid it out to me, and I took her info to his Department of Corrections, Case Worker, who says that this could well send him “inside the walls”. The Case Worker says that he thinks that he is a crackhead, but is “pissing clean” for now.

  28. Frankie Cee says:

    Congratulations to Mr n Mrs TSO on the growth of the family. I just saw a post on facebook that all are out of the hospital. I got some education during their stay: I did not know that other than the mother was offered a bed, nor that the family was tasked with the babysitting of the newborn(s). I recalled the days of the birth of mine, (1968/1972), when the visitors were expected to leave after visiting hours, and the nurses kept the newborns in the nursery except for feeding and bonding with mother. We visitors looked through a window into the nursery to see the baby. The times they are a changin’.

  29. Usafvet509 says:

    Eleventyseventeenth. Oh, well. Y’all enjoy the weekend best you can. Off to an AVO cigars event tonight before making a 150mi trip to the VA for an MRI

  30. Commissar says:

    Trump refuses to rule out military action in Venezuela.

    Mattis has, of course, tried to ratchet down the rhetoric.

    I really cannot think of any reason we should be even considering using troops in Venezuela.

    Can any of you?

    • Usafvet509 says:

      The fuck that has to do with anything. …

    • GDContractor says:

      Maybe, like you, he feels a responsibility to assassinate a Dictator?

      • Commissar says:


        Though I really meant that the people have a duty to assassinate a dictator in their own nation.

        But I take your point. I actually would think it set a terrible international precedent to start assassinating world leaders we do not like.

        But I would not feel sorry for Maduro if we did. As far as I am concerned he already earned a dictator’s death. Of course, so has Putin and Erdogan and Trump loves those guys.

        • Commissar says:

          *I actually think it would set a terrible international precedent to start assassinating world leaders we do not like.

          • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

            I see YOU as THAT GUY who could dive into a swimming pool full of pussy and come up with a mouthful of cock and balls!

            • Commissar says:

              We are still operating under Reagan’s executive order prohibiting any US government personnel from being involved in supporting, planning, or participating in any assassination of a world leader

              So I guess, according to you, he came up with a mouthful of dicks when he issued that order.

              Personally, I would prefer we kill world leaders rather than deploy troops to fight wars.

              But it is hard to sustain democratic institutions and a stable international system if countries are potentially conspiring to assassinate or assassinating each other’s leaders whenever they travel outside of the country.

              The prohibition on assassination is intended to let senior leaders engage in the international arena without constantly being targeted or killed by foreign powers.

              • GDContractor says:

                “Personally, I would prefer we kill world leaders rather than deploy troops to fight wars.”

                What criteria? Kill the Commies? Think of all the human suffering that could have been averted if Chavez was taken out before the election of Dec 1998. Or Lil Kim’s grandpa, or Mao, Lenin, etc… I’m cool with your “don’t fear the commie” protocol as long as the alternative is to shank them.

      • Usafvet509 says:

        Any chance tou could show me to that pool? I could come up with the proper mouthful…

    • Silentium Est Aureum says:

      Only you would find a way to be the pile of steaming horseshit in the middle of the parade.

      Well done, Lars. Well done indeed.

    • Yef says:

      A deployment to Venezuela would be waaaay better than all the shitty deployments I have done in the middle beast.

      I’d go in a blink.

  31. UpNorth says:

    Your TDS pops up in every thread now, Kommissar.

  32. OLD98Z says:

    Never seen a demographic here on breakdown of branch/amount of time served/Rank or grade when separated/MOS/AFSC/(WhatevertheNavyisnowcallingit),etc.
    Any interest? Any ideas of what would be of interest to be coallated?

    I’ll help building the table in the idea is accepted.

    Else, peaceful weekend.

  33. Roger in Republic says:

    I want to talk about bad luck, or at least bad timing. On August 21 north america will be witness to the last total solar eclipse of the century to be visible across the country. I don’t live in the zone of totality but pretty close (70 percent). The problem is that at the time of the eclipse I will laying on a gurney at the heart institute having a bilateral catheterization. I have witnessed an almost total eclipse so it is not that big a deal. The problem is that my best friend is coming up to see us after he views it in central Oregon. If there is any complications with the procedure I may not get home in time to see him. I have known him for 55 years and haven’t seen him for about 4 years. Bad luck all around.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      I wish you well, Roger. Your good health is more important than anything else. The eclipse will be on TV and online. Your friend will very likely come to see you at the hospital, if possible. Focus on getting well.

    • IDC SARC says:

      I hope you will be surrounded by weapons grade eye candy every moment of your treatment and recovery.

      • Roger in Republic says:

        Sark, the last thing they do before you go under is slip you a shot of Versed. So no matter how wild it gets in the OR you have no memory of it. I always apologize in advance for any social faux paus that I may commit during the procedure. My wife said that as I was waking up from my bypass surgery someone was slapping me to bring me back, it was touch and go for awhile. She said that I never opened my eyes, but stated in sinister tone that she had never heard, “stop that or I will kill you”. I think there is a law that says that you can’t be held accountable for drug induced utterances, I hope so.

        • IDC SARC says:

          I have many hours of working in surgery…seen all sorts of interesting behaviors under premeds/induction/recovery.

          Happens so much I doubt you would do/say anything that hasn’t been witnessed by the staff. 🙂

    • Commissar says:

      There are total solar eclipses in South America on July 2, 2019, and again in South America on December 14, 2020.

      Maybe you can plan a trip with your best friend.

  34. Ex-PH2 says:

    Reminder: Aug. 21 is the eclipse (as if anyone is not aware of it owing to living in a swamp or on a desert island).

    If you can’t get eclipse glasses, make a pinhole solar projector (camera obscura) with a cardboard box and a piece of white paper opposite the hole. Fiddle around with it until you can get the sun to stay in focus, but do NOT look directly at the sun until it is in TOTAl, unless, of course, you want to have severe permanent retinal damage.

    I believe nearly a quarter million people will be at SIU at Carbondale, IL for this event. They are out of space now.

    Link to time in your area is here:

    Or watch it online or on TV. NASA will be providing a live look.

    YOu’ll also be able to see Venus and other planets when the sun is covered. Be aware that the temperature will drop something like 30 degrees Fahrenheit when the sun is covered. Let’s hope for a clear sunny day. This won’t happen again in the USA until 2099.

    • 26Limabeans says:

      “This won’t happen again in the USA until 2099.”

      Oh stop it. I’ve been hearing that ever since I was a kid. Last eclipse of your life time blah blah blah. Don’t look at the sun! as if I’m stupid enough to do that anyway. Buy these special glasses blah blah blah. Sheesh, ever heard of welding goggles?
      Next thing you know they will warning you about the “storm of the century” for 50th time in ten years. Trust me, there will be another one next year.
      The moon is going to block the sun for a few minutes. I can do that with a sheet of plywood. /s

      • Hondo says:

        Not all welding goggles provide sufficient protection. As I recall, welding goggles of shade 12 and lighter are a NO GO; shade 13 are considered marginal; and shade 14 or darker are OK.

        The eclipse glasses being sold are supposed to be certified to be dark enough to provide sufficient light attenuation to be safe during the partial phases of the eclipse. Cheap insurance if you don’t have access to something else, like a welding mask/goggles in shade 14+.

        Warning: some eclipse glasses being sold are knock-offs or outright fakes that may or may not provide sufficient eye protection. Amazon has started refunding customers who bought eclipse eyeware through them that Amazon has questions about.

        Such eyeware may or may not be safe for use during the eclipse. This article describes a test you can use to make sure, if you received such a questionable set of eclipse glasses (it’s probably too late now to get certified good ones).


        Bottom line: if you put them on and can see anything except the sun itself through them, don’t use them to view the eclipse. They aren’t dark enough.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      I like your spirit, 26LBs.

  35. Thunderstixx says:

    Speaking of your C-119’s, I just watched Rock Hudson and a few other stars in a movie that is just uplifting as can be.
    The planes are featured in one of the end scenes, all five of them coming in to pick up over 400 kids.
    “Battle Hymn”, It’s about Col Dean E. Hess and the orphans he fought to save while stationed in Korea.
    What a great movie.

    • OWB says:

      Had completely forgotten about that movie. Been many, many years since seeing it, so the details are long forgotten. But, do remember it being a great one.

      Thanks for the reminder.

  36. jonp says:

    Wow, does that bring back memories. STAND IN THE DOOR!

  37. Five Beers says:

    Anyone who’s interested, there are beer fests going on all over everywhere. Craft beers – good.


    Here’s another option: pick your place and date: https://beerfests.com/

    There’s food, too, but you’d expect that, wouldn’t you?

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