Trump on Rocket Man

| September 20, 2017 | 33 Comments

President Trump made his first speech to the United Nations General Assembly yesterday and I guess he pissed off a few people by threatening to “totally destroy” North Korea if they didn’t do something to step back from the nuclear brink. According to NBC News;

“If the righteous many do not confront the wicked few, then evil will triumph,” Trump said, as he detailed the horrors of what he called the “depraved” North Korean regime.

“Rocket man is on a suicide mission,” he said, using a nickname for Kim that refers to the North Korean leader’s recent missile tests.

“The United States has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea.”

The president’s intention, I think, is to make the United Nations take up it’s own part in the North Korea nuclear problem. The US has few options short of war without the cooperation of the UN members and I think that was Trump’s inelegantly expressed comment.

Huffington Post misquotes the President, by omission, when they report that he said;

“As president of the United States, I will always put America first,” he said. “The United States will always be a great friend to the world and especially to its allies, but we can no longer be taken advantage of or enter into a one-sided deal in which the United States gets nothing in return.”

The part they left out of the quote, is in the full text from Politico;

As President of the United States, I will always put America first, just like you, as the leaders of your countries will always, and should always, put your countries first. (Applause.)

All responsible leaders have an obligation to serve their own citizens, and the nation-state remains the best vehicle for elevating the human condition.

That kind of changes the tone of his speech, doesn’t it? He was only expressing the intent of each country’s mission to the UN. If he doesn’t put his own country first, then who will represent our own interests? Leaving out the remainder of his quote makes him appear to be a bully, instead of being inclusive.

Leaving out that portion of the quote makes it fake news.

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  1. Ex-PH2 says:

    But…but…but… they HAVE to have fake news. If they don’t have fake news, they have nothing.

    HuffPo can’t dumb itself down any more than it already has. All one needs to do is find the video of Pres. Trump’s speech at the UN to get the actual content. HuffPo seems to forget that we, the people, have other resources that don’t lie to us.

  2. David says:

    yeah, but the great unwashed masses they target don’t bother with that and eat up HuffPo and Newsweek et al with a spoon. That’s what makes ‘fake news’ possible. Goebbels used to more accurately term it the ‘Big Lie’

    • Fyrfighter says:

      Hmmm one more similarity/ commonality between todays left and the nazi’s they try to paint their enemies (all of us deplorables) as.
      Not surprising, but instructional, if one cares to examine the facts (unlike a certain Berkeley dweller who has haunted these pages)

  3. MSG Eric says:

    Obama said the same thing about the North. But, its okay because he’s a Democrat….

    And this was fun to see: (shorter version to hear less bullshit)

  4. Joe says:

    Trump has a great talent for stating the obvious.

  5. Dave Hardin says:

    Here we go, Jonn decided to take a break from counting his ammo inventory today in order to blow his Trumpet.

    He should probably loosen the band on his Make America Great Again hat and let some blood flow freely to the brain housing group.

    I bet he has been sitting at the computer singing, “All we are asking…Is give War a chance” all day.

    We have been pointing nuclear weapons at North Korea for generations, its only fair they get to point a few back.

  6. Sparks says:

    The best thing for America would be to relocate the UN to some hand wringing country and let them foot our share of the bill. Going to the UN for help is like trying to get a consensus from the local school board. It’s aggravating, time consuming and will be adjourned to a later date several times before nothing happens in the end.

  7. Foxbat40 says:

    They also left out the part where he said he would destroy N.K. in self defense or in defense of an Allie.

  8. Perry Gaskill says:

    The Huffington Post quoted Donald Trump out of context to push its own agenda? No way!!!


  9. reddevil says:

    I do not generally support Trump, but I give him an A- on this speech.

    I think most serious foreign policy thinkers would find Trump’s speech as exactly on message.

    KJU is either a rational actor or he isn’t. If he isn’t, nothing we do or say will matter because he will not react the way we expect to anything we do- in other words, being nice to him won’t make him be nice to us. This means we have to be prepared to utterly destroy the dPRK if they strike us, our interests, or our allies.

    If he is a rational actor (and most serious foreign policy thinkers think he is), then he doesn’t want war, he simply wants to preserve his regime, as do the top men in the regime. We have to then make sure he understands that a strike against us, our allies, or our interests will result in the utter destruction of his regime (and him personally).

    This is not radical thought, it is conventional defense policy thinking.

    That said, I didn’t like the name calling (rocket man). It unnecessarily antagonizes Kim, who has to look strong in front of the regime hard liners- if he looks weak we may just find out that he died of early onset bullet to the brain and a new hard liner has taken over.

    This is a time to be stone cold serious and back it up with action.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      I am stone-cold serious, red-devil, but I will continue to use whatever terms for him that I choose.

      You may not be aware of it, but the South Koreans call him Fatty Kim the Third, which is the source of my rendering of it as Fatty Kim da T’ird, the Irish version.

      And for your info, I take that fat little basterd as seriously as I would a report of cancer in my brain housing group.

      Besides, I referred to him as Rocket Man before Trump did.

      • reddevil says:

        Actually, I think it’s the Chinese that call him jin sanpang, but that’s not the point. It clearly bugs Kim; the dPRK officially asked the Chinese to put a lid on it through internet censorship.
        Regardless of the entertainment value, the question is whether or Trump calling Kim names at the UN or on Twitter helps us achieve our national goals and protect our interests.
        In my view, our goals are to avoid war if possible, but win the war decisively if not, in order to ensure the safety of our citizens, support our allies as they do the same, and maintain US freedom of action in the region by neutralizing North Korea as a threat.
        Back to the name calling. Neither you nor the Chinese bloggers/netizens are the leader of the free world, so what names you or they call him don’t really matter. I think it’s kind of funny.
        President Trump is. Calling Kim Rocket Man may be mildly entertaining, but I don’t see how it helps us get what we want. On the other hand, it needlessly antagonizes Kim and makes our allies wonder how serious he is and how strong US resolve might be. It could make Kim do something stupid in order to appear strong, or it could cost us the support of a key ally or supporter. It could even erode support in our own Congress, who at some point may be asked to authorize the use of force.
        All in all, it was not helpful and potentially hurtful. He should knock it off.

        • David says:

          Tend to agree with the last third of reddevil’s paragraph above: if nothing else, keeping up the ‘Rocket Man’ is unprofessional and we should be communicating absolute professionalism and control to the Norks at this point. There should be no doubt in their minds that if attacked we will surgically and totally eliminate them from the Earth. Playground names do not promote that thought. We don’t want Kim thinking ‘what an asshole, I’ll screw with him some more’, we need him thinking ‘there is a point we need to avoid or they will unflinchingly kill us all’.

  10. reddevil says:

    One other point. I came across a Facebook post from a relative who linked to a video called “Why the North Koreans Hate Us’ or something similar. There are a few similar videos out there, and I am sure you can find one with a simple google search (or bing, for some of you).
    This video and its like is making the rounds of social media, and most of the younger folks are taking it to be the background to the current conflict, mainly because they are completely ignorant of the actual history.
    The video is full of inaccuracies, omits key facts, and in some spots simply lies. It claims that the US arbitrarily divided the peninsula and Kim was only leading a patriotic war to reunite his homeland. It emphasizes the US led bombing campaign while completely ignoring North Korean atrocities and omitting the fact that we were there as part of a UN sanctioned force. It glosses over the numerous atrocities since the war, to include the DMZ Axe murder, the Blue House raid, the invasion tunnels, etc.
    Having served in Korea with 2ID in a year when the North shot down one of our helicopters and tried to infiltrate the DMZ, I am more than a little angry that this is going around, and dismayed that many young people seem not only to be buying this North Korean (or maybe Russian) propaganda, but also spreading it around.
    I urge you all to take the time to refresh your knowledge of the actual history and engage with your friends and family, especially the younger ones, to remind them of what actually happened between 1950 and 1953 in the Land of the Morning Calm.

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