Austin bomber was not a military veteran

| March 21, 2018 | 98 Comments

This morning I heard someone on Fox News commenting on the unpackaged meat remains of the Austin bomber say something like “He must have been in the military, how else would he know how to make a bomb?”

Well, the New York Post has identified him, and he wasn’t a veteran;

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott…told “Fox & Friends” that the unemployed man did not have a criminal record and had not served in the military.

I’ve said it before – Tim McVeigh didn’t learn how to build his fertilizer bomb as an 11M infantryman – we don’t get blocks of instruction on building bombs. Most of our explosives are wonders of modern technology and come pre-packaged and need only a bit of assembly. I wouldn’t know how to put together a package bomb that explodes when it’s jostled.

Any bombers out there probably learned the craft from watching YouTube videos, not from any military instruction. I say that as someone who spent two decades as an infantryman. I can make some pretty intricate booby traps, not all of them explode, though. But those fertilizer bombs are as much a mystery to me as they are to any other American.

I know the media is mystified why a 24-year-old unemployed Texan would go on a murder spree with explosives, and now they find out he’s not a veteran. More confusion.

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  1. JBUSMC says:

    Daily USMC life: Bomb classes. Run 55 miles. Do 15000 pushups. Get beaten, you know to toughen you up. Back to bomb making class. The good ol days…

  2. Roger in Republic says:

    Most of the Mafia bombers weren’t military trained either. When you think about it most of the worlds current bomb makers do not have Military training either. Bomb maker is not a military specialty in military I know. True, we do have explosive handling in the Engineers but like you say that really nothing more than hooking an initiator up to an explosive compound. Most of the bomb makers today were trained on YouTube.

    • lily says:

      An Italian guy in my platoon had a tattoo that said “MOB” on his right forearm.

      • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

        Which would get the shit, piss and snot gracefully beaten and kicked out of him by real Mobsters.

      • Yef says:

        In 2005, when I came into the Army, at the end of the very long day-One in basic training, all of us have to go naked into the showers and the drills would inspect us for tatoos. Any supremacist or gang affiliation tattoo, which MOB would count as, and you were kicked back to 30th AG for out-processing and a ride back home.

        So lily, I don’t know what Army you serve in.

        Perhaps you served before my time?
        North or South?

  3. Ex-PH2 says:

    “…unpackaged meat remains….”

    Now that is a poetic and extremely descriptive way to identify a splodeydope’s carcass.

    I am SOOOO borrowing that!!

  4. Dustoff says:

    Ho Hum, just an average day in the life of an 11B….( according to most “journalist” these days)….

  5. The Other Whitey says:

    Hell, I never spent a day in uniform, but I could probably work something up that goes boom with minimal reference. Why? Because I took a fucking chemistry class!

  6. Atkron says:

    I’m sure our Phony SEALs could tell us all about the super secret bomb making classes they attended…if they weren’t so classified.

    Maybe this meatpile took lessons from clock boy.

  7. Skippy says:

    But here was a Millennial


  8. SFC D says:

    Farmers have been using ANFO to remove rocks and stumps for decades, it’s not exactly a secret. I actually learned about it in HS, working a summer maintenance job at a local ski area. Worked with a couple of old cowboys that were probably some of the smartest men I’ve ever known. Taught me that if you use the right amount of boom packed in the proper area, you can launch a stump down the mountain and coupled with a good roll on landing, we wouldn’t have to drag it as far with the dozer. Good times.

  9. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    I was in the Army. I never learned to make a bomb in the Army. If I want to learn how to make a bomb, I will google, how to make a bomb.

    • rgr769 says:

      I never learned how to make a bomb, but I was trained how to use military explosives–C-4, grenades, and Claymore mines. Used to carry two blocks of C-4 and a box on non-electric blasting caps in my rucksack in the Viet of the Nam. At my Special Forces training we learned to use special charges to destroy various types of targets. My comrades and I reduced a 4’x 4′ concrete column to ruble using an ear-muff charge at our demo range. But no one taught us bomb making. Anyone who has access to explosive materials and does a little research can figure out how to make a bomb. The Boston Marathon bombers figured out how to do it likely just by reading the articles in Al Queda’s online propaganda rag.

      • Tony180A says:

        There actually was and I’m sure still is a course we sent SF Engineers for improvised explosives. Like many other specialty schools you won’t find this listed in the ATRRS.

        • rgr769 says:

          One of our officers went to a specialty school where they had to find simulated booby traps and EID’s in buildings. He mentioned one where simulated C-4 strips were placed on the backside of a louvered closet door. Door was rigged so that when it was opened, the bomb would detonate.


    Im pretty sure a chimp could brew guncotton or assemble a BP device.
    Thankfully, the CLIT (Coalition for the Liberation of Itinerant Treedwellers) has become less sensitive over the years. 😉

  11. Dennis - not chevy says:

    One day in high school chemistry the teacher was adding some of this and some of that. He didn’t say anything louder than a mumble as he plied his chemistry. He put the solution into the glove cabinet and did something to it; the flames that resulted were impressive. He then turned to the class and announced, “And that is how you make napalm”.

    • Graybeard says:

      In years gone by, we had some Scout leaders who had some magic formulas they would whip up to start Camporee bonfires remotely and without matches.

      I never learned them – but I can start a good one with flint and steel and a bit of charcloth.

      • SFC D says:

        HS Chemistry, 1980. Teacher mixed up a concoction that I later learned was iodine and ammonia. Made kind of a paste that broke up into small little chunks as it dried, which he then scattered in the hallway just before the bell rang. The chunks popped underfoot kind of like those little fireworks that pop on impact. Hallway sounded like 50 kids busting old-school paper caps.

        He’d probably go to jail for that today.

        • Graybeard says:

          I’d go to jail today for stuff I did in Junior High School which just earned me pops.

          The world has gone insane.

        • David says:

          Let’s imagine someone’s paternal unit got in trouble in college for smearing that inside the cover of large books left open in the library… when the librarians came by at closing to straighten up, they would flip the books shut and the now-dry (ammonia triiodiide, I think) would reopen the books….quickly. Amazing the dirt you learn after you get into adulthood and know better.

          • SFC D says:

            I think that’s pretty much what my chem teacher made, made a lovely iodine stain on detonation that went away in a couple minutes. Janitor was pissed when he saw the floor, but when he came back with the mop, all evidence was gone.

      • Dennis - not chevy says:

        Ooh, I just remembered this. The same teacher had us do an experiment in spontaneous combustion. Mine went so well(?) someone called the fire department. Lesson learned: never have someone call the fire department when a third of the students are at lunch.

  12. OldManchu says:

    This is why some of us can’t have any civilian friends.

  13. OldManchu says:

    I know someone who knew how to make a lawn dart with an airplane…

    Don’t know if he learned it in the military or not though.

  14. GDContractor says:

    Last night the Dallas Police shut down one block of residential street in my neighborhood for several hours and an EOD team picked up a hand grenade off of the pavement, using a robot, took it to a field, and blew it up. It was an inert training grenade that apparently fell out of someone’s trash can after they had attempted to throw it away. This morning, being the good neighbor that I am, I went to the Army Surplus Store less than 1 mile away and took a picture of approximately two dozen inert training grenades for sale there at the modest price of $10.95 each. Then I posted that photo in our neighborhood Facebook group. Oh the humanity.

  15. Mason says:

    So only SEALS get improvised explosive training? Cause I saw this documentary one time about Chief Ryback aboard the Might Mo make a microwave bomb out of some kitchen supplies to take out a bunch of terrorists.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      Ummm…. everything Casey Ryback did was on instructions from the props crew… because building a bomb in your kitchen requires some kind of scrubbing stuff, a microwave, and some kind of…. what???/ Okay, okay!

      Sorry, but the props guys get peeved if you give away their little secrets.

    • Carlton G. Long says:

      He could also have flown the helicopter and gotten himself and Miss July off the ship, but he chose to stay onboard and save the world.

  16. Jonp says:

    I didnt learn how to make black powder from a haybale in the Army.

  17. Jeff LPH 3, 63-66 says:

    Any of you over the 70 age mark out there remember taking the cardboard tube with the stiff wire inside it that was used as a package handle that hooked onto the string that wrapped the package and then you would take out the wire and string tie a rubber band around the end and then insert a strike anywhere match then pull back the band with the match end resting on the band and when it hit something hard, it would light. those matches were banned in NYC some years later. I used to be able to light one of those off of my front tooth and jacket zipper. You could also cut off the heads and wrap aluminum foil around them into a ball and throw it real hard against the ground or hand ball wall.

  18. Ex-PH2 says:

    Perhaps someone should take the time to explain to the lambebrained media that explosives and ordinances are manufactured by contractors. And they’re expensive. Which is why the military budget is so high. Because those things are one-offs – use once and get another one.

    (I thought they might understand better if it’s all in sentence fragments, instead of done properly. Has to do with short attention span deficit disorder.)

  19. Docduracoat says:

    The media are mostly leftists
    And leftists produce nothing of any real value
    So the concept that you could actually look up information and use it to construct something is beyond their imagination
    Even if that something is a bomb

  20. NHSparky says:

    Fucking media idiot mouthbreathers remind me of a certain disbarred deceased shitbag fucktard who emailed the FBI claiming I was stealing nuclear waste to make into dirty bombs.

    Fuck those fucking idiots.

  21. USMC Steve says:

    This sort of crap happens when you let people watch McGyver and the various CSI shows.

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