Douglas Duane Roberts; stolen valor/gender

| April 22, 2018 | 58 Comments

I’ve been trying to make sense of this story for a few hours this morning, so if I get some of it wrong, please blame the subject, Douglas Duane Roberts, aka Liz Roberts, and the author, Tony Messenger.

I think this fellow, Doug Roberts, tried to pass himself off as a hermaphrodite to folks after he was medically discharged from the Army. He claims to Messenger that he has been a woman all of his life, but, James Rogers served with Roberts and Rogers says that while Roberts served as a parachute rigger, he was a man. Somehow being a hermaphrodite gives Roberts some kind of credence in the world of medical marijuana advocates, I’m not sure how, but there it is.

So much of what Liz Roberts has told veterans, politicians, reporters and others about her background simply isn’t true.

Hers is a case of stolen valor, say two men who served with her when she went by her given name.

“She was lying about everything,” Rogers says. “It’s a complete disgrace. I’m embarrassed to say I served with her.”

Liz Roberts is not transgender. She is not transitioning.

That is what she told me in a phone interview early this month.

“I’ve been a woman all my life,” she said. “I was one of the first hermaphrodites in the military. The Army changed my sex for me.”

Roberts also claims that he was injured in an IED ambush in Iraq, even though he was never in Iraq.

According to various copies of Roberts’ military records, including her DD 214, the standard record of service issued to a soldier upon discharge, Douglas Duane Roberts served in the Army between 2006 and 2014. Roberts was a rigger — somebody who packed parachutes — who served one tour in Afghanistan. She was retired by the military because of a temporary disability…It didn’t take long for some of Roberts’ stories to raise questions. She told the Gradys the same thing she eventually told The Missouri Times, in a story about her efforts to promote medical marijuana: that she had been injured by an improvised explosive device while serving in Iraq. She told Kara Grady that she was pregnant at the time.

Roberts was never in Iraq. She never served as a woman. According to Jen Rogers, who changed the adult diapers that Roberts sometimes wears, Roberts still has male genitals.

Mr. Messenger started asking questions about Roberts’ background and he was threatened with legal repercussions – always the best way to deflect background inquiries.

It looks to me that this Missourians for Patient Care doesn’t really care about patients as their title suggests – it’s more about legalizing weed than any real patient care. I’m not surprised that they’re embroiled in this whole controversy. Remember Wayward Bill?

Category: Phony soldiers

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  1. LiRight says:

    Anything I had to say about this story would be deemed, politically incorrect, insensitive, specifically gender biased (whatever the hell that is!) – come to think of it…..do I really care?

    Nope!

    But, I am as puzzled as Jonn. My question is; what in the hell is “it”?

  2. AW1Ed says:

    “It” made my head hurt, trying to follow that twisted trail.

  3. SGT Fon says:

    i had a good morning, until i tried to process this, it looks like my truck gunner, even though it is a little fatter and wears too much makeup, gong to have to sent him this pict and make sure he dosen’t have something to tell me…

  4. OWB says:

    Not even gonna try to sort through this one. None of my business, unless s/he demands that I participate in the diaper change or pay for whatever the problem might be. Confused? Obviously. I just don’t want to participate in it.

  5. Sapper3307 says:

    WTFFF!
    imho

  6. BridgeBurner1-89 says:

    This is a level of fuckery I have never seen before
    Is s/he stealing valor?
    Is s/he stealing gender?
    Is s/he stealing adult diapers full of penis for marijuana?

    I’m all for the legalization of pot but total fuck tards like this aren’t going to help. Please drive go your wheelchair around Iraq until you actually have some shit to be fucked up about.

  7. MSG Eric says:

    I got confused by all the he/she changes that were happening in there. Still has a penis, isn’t a hermaphrodite, never had surgery? Then sounds like a he to me.

    Very strange indeed. I’m sure the weed store is propping him up (with or without the chair) so they can get more publicity about their weed distribution program and make more money.

  8. Ex-PH2 says:

    Wow. I have run into idiotic stuff over a century or two of hanging out here, but this is, by cracky, the dumbest, silliest, and possibly most transparently fabricated bit of wacko storytelling this year.

    If someone could get a snapshot or two of him NOT in that scooter chair, it would blow the lid off his story, wouldn’t it?

    What a dork.

  9. Guard Bum says:

    I feel like I need a shower after reading that. I would tell him to go fuck himself but if he is really a hermaphrodite he ptobably can.

  10. IDC SARC says:

    True hermaphroditism is extremely rare so simply speaking statistically it would likely be BS. True hermaphrodites are also sterile, so the pregnancy claim would be impossible.

    Psuedohermaphroditism is much more common, but would also likely be picked up during a physical.(Ambiguous Genitalia)

    Disorders of genotype in which the person look externally (phenotypically) male or female are rare but do exist and wouldn’t be picked up without genetic testing which the military doesn’t do.Those people invariably tend to identify with their external appearance and are often shocked to find out anything different about their genotype.

    The real story is probably much less interesting than the genetic bon mot he is claiming.

    • Ret_25X says:

      the real story is this; another shit bag making a buck by pretending to be some type of “victim”.

      There it is, just a shit bag doing shit bag stuff for shit bag prizes.

      Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

  11. The Other Whitey says:

    So…is this asshole even injured?

  12. Green Thumb says:

    Tool(ette).

  13. Mason says:

    Can one be medically retired for a temporary injury? Discharged I know it’s yes. However, I thought for a med retirement it has to be permanent. One would think being a quad/paraplegic wouldn’t be categorized as temporary. Just another hole in the story I suppose.

    • The Other Whitey says:

      Does anyone else suspect this fucker could jump right out of that wheelchair and do jumping jacks if properly motivated?

      • 26Limabeans says:

        I recall a video of a woman in a wheelchair perusing the liquor shelves of a store. She stands up and reaches for the top shelf stuff then sits back down.

        • Gravel says:

          That’s not really all that strange though. While technically a quadriplegic (paralysis affects all four of my limbs and torso) I have partial use/strength in the right leg and can stand for about 45 seconds or so … longer if I have something like a walker to keep me steady.

          I’ve also seen others affected by various muscular and nerve degenerative diseases (that progressively get worse over time) that have to use a wheelchair, but can still stand in the early stages of the disease.

          • 26Limabeans says:

            No offense meant to the truly afflicted Gravel. My only dealing with unable to walk was a hip replacement that turned me into a helpless baby for a few days.

          • IDC SARC says:

            People with diseases like Myasthenia Gravis are one such case. They have a problem where the nerves meet the muscles. That results in a decreased ability to synthesize and use chemical neurotransmitters to stimulate their muscles for prolonged activity.

    • MSGT Richard Deiters USMC(Retired) says:

      There is a catagory of temp disability on the books for military members. HOWEVER, there is a FIVE Year limit, after which you have to be evaluated for conversion to permanent disbility, return to full duty, or discharge/retirement.

  14. RCAF-CHAIRBORNE says:

    Wow…..Fugly in both genders.

  15. 26Limabeans says:

    So pot gives those with spinal injuries hope.
    Hope for what?

    Dope for Hope. Help our veterans find hope in dope. Don’t say nope. Vote for dope.

    • Gravel says:

      Apparently hope to stop the tremors and spasms and the fake nerve pain (similar to amputee ghost pain). I have tried it in the past and it worked for me. However, it also gave me crazy flu like symptoms for 6-8 hours.

      I also decided that I’d rather deal with spasms and nerve pain and NOT lose my legal ability to purchase/own firearms.

  16. A Proud Infidel®™️ says:

    Douglas Duane Roberts was a gift from the Fuckup Fairy to his parents and the World, he’s crystal clear proof that the Human Gene Pool is in dire need of some chlorine and a Lifeguard!

  17. NR Pax says:

    I’m old enough to remember when mental illness was something to be treated instead of celebrated.

    • 26Limabeans says:

      I remember state mental hospitals.
      The Democrats closed them so they could gain voters.

      • Jeff LPH 3, 63-66 says:

        Shades of Staten Island NY Willowbrook mental hospital and Giraldo Rivera investigative reporter.

        • Gravel says:

          Yeah, not like the conditions at Willowbrook weren’t horrific or anything. Like the case of Bernard Carabello, who was actually saved because of Geraldo Rivera’s expose on that institution.

          Bernard Carabello; placed in Willowbrook at the age of three, rescued at age 21. He suffered from Cerebral Palsy, and not some mental deficiency. After being held in Willowbrook until he was 21 he was rescued by Geraldo Rivera and went on to live and work as a functioning adult in regular society,

        • 26Limabeans says:

          The Fernald School and state hospital in Waltham Massachusetts.

  18. HMC Ret says:

    While youse are figuring out ‘its’ gender, some of you try to determine if ‘it’ is human. I’m not sure ‘it’ is. A visit to the shrink’s sofa would be a good start. I can’t figure out this mess.

  19. jonp says:

    We got everything going on here. Tranny, stolen valor, pregnant on patrol, marijuana advocate, not much left except “No shit, so there I was..”

  20. Thunderstixx says:

    Here, hold my beer while I pull everybody’s chain…

  21. Reverend Pointyhead says:

    It’s yet another dumb-ass that encourages my think-bone to say this entire trans thing is both a mental illness and an easy gateway to fame.

    I am willing to recognize the few who just dig acting like women. If you aren’t shoving it down my throat and have an actual personality outside of trying to whore for attention then go have fun.
    However the more boisterous ones have much deeper issues going on than just confusion about their nether regions.
    On that note the entire pronoun thing is absurd.
    Xe or what have you. I only address anyone as either “you” or whatever your name is, you self absorbed jackass.

  22. Reverend Pointyhead says:

    It’s yet another dumb-ass that encourages my think-bone to say this entire trans thing is both a mental illness and an easy gateway to fame.

    I am willing to recognize the few who just dig acting like women. If you aren’t shoving it down my throat and have an actual personality outside of trying to whore for attention then go have fun.
    However the more boisterous ones have much deeper issues going on than just confusion about their nether regions.
    On that note the entire pronoun thing is absurd.
    Xe or what have you. I only address anyone as either “you” or whatever your name is. I promise no conversations involving your presence will ever happen if I’m required a lexicon before-hand, you self absorbed jackass.

  23. OldManchu says:

    Bradley Manning volunteered to change its bedpan.

  24. Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

    The drug war is a massive failure of epic proportions regarding our 4th and 5th amendment rights, it should be ended tomorrow.

    Weed kills no one when compared to our favorite legal drug alcohol. As for the rest of this story? What a pile of shit.

    Stoners, like libertarians, are their own worst enemies when it comes to this stuff.

  25. MCPO NYC USN Ret. says:

    Ah, waiter, check please … we have to go!

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