Weekend open thread

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  1. Jon The Mechanic says:


  2. Jon The Mechanic says:


  3. Jon The Mechanic says:

    And third?

  4. ChipNASA says:

    5th Hey Bitches!!

  5. Commissioner Wretched says:

    Sixth …

    I am Number Six.

  6. Tallywhagger says:

    Top 1,000

  7. Commissioner Wretched says:

    In a concerted effort to get out of work early today (hey, at least I admit it), here’s this week’s trivia/humor column. I appreciate all the feedback from you fine folks, so keep it coming, please.

    How many students attend the world’s largest K-12 school?
    By Commissioner Wretched

    When you get to be my age, you realize that the true joys and pleasures are few.
    I love a good meal … especially if I don’t have to cook it, since I’ve eaten my own cooking (and lived to tell the tale).
    I love a good book.
    I adore a good movie.
    And, as you all well know by now, I simply love a good baseball game, especially if the Chicago Cubs are playing (and winning).
    You may have noticed that I didn’t list one major joy and pleasure above – trivia. That’s because I saved the best for last.
    Trivia, for me, is truly a passion. Why else would I invest as much time and energy into mining these precious nuggets of information for you? (Well, I do get paid for doing it, but I digress.)
    If you love trivia as much as I do, then you should let me know! Drop an e-mail to me at didyouknowcolumn@gmail.com and I’ll send you a prompt (ha!) reply.
    Let’s do something we all love and enjoy … learn some tidbits of trivia!
    Did you know …
    … in Japan, the title for the television program Jersey Shore translates as, “The Life of Macaroni Rascals”? (Of course, the Macaroni Rascals are the descendants of the Little Rascals from the 1930s.)
    … your skin stays alive for several days after you die? The cells are able to absorb what they need through osmosis. (That fact is wrong on so many levels …)
    … if you get struck by lightning, it leaves a tattoo? (Provided you live to talk about it, that is. It’s most likely the least of your concerns once the bolt hits you, though.)
    … the inventor of Vaseline, Robert Chesebrough (1837-1933), ate a spoonful of it every day? (It must have done something for him, since he lived to be 96. If it takes eating Vaseline to live that long, though, I’ll just go ahead and check out, if you don’t mind.)
    … if you have a $10 bill and no debt, you’re actually wealthier than about 15% of all Americans? Most people have so much debt that it makes the cash they have on hand almost worthless. (And if you know whose picture is on the $10 bill, you’re smarter than a lot of other people, too!)
    …a single coffee bush yields only about one pound of ground, roasted coffee each year? (And it was all hand-picked by Juan Valdez, too, if you believe the old 1970s coffee commercials.)
    … people who can read lips say that if you mouth the word “colorful,” it looks as if you’re saying, “I love you”? (That might explain a lot of my early dates, now that I think of it. They just thought I was “colorful.”)
    … the Greek health care system actually elected to amputate the limbs of diabetes patients instead of provide special footwear for them? The country’s incredibly high debt caused the state health service to choose amputation because it was less expensive than the special footwear.
    … the largest school in the world is in India? The City Montessori School in Lucknow, India, has a kindergarten-through-12th grade enrollment of more than 44,000 students and 2,500 teachers. The student body is so massive that there can never be a full assembly, as there is no venue big enough to hold all the students at one time. The campus is spread out over 1,000 classrooms and through several buildings. (And I’d imagine that the school’s yearbooks are thicker than New York City telephone books!)
    … the average human body – whatever that is – has enough iron in it to make a small nail?
    … male horseflies can reach flying speeds of over 90 miles per hour? (No wonder you can’t swat the little boogers!)
    … in the nation of Bhutan, street advertising, tobacco, and plastic bags are banned? The government policy is based on something called Gross National Happiness. (What the one has to do with the other, I’ll leave for you to figure out. I need to advertise some plastic bags.)
    … scientists at Cornell University have made a functioning “nano-guitar”? It’s a playable guitar the size of a human red blood cell. (Of course, they don’t say who would be able to play it, but you get the idea.)
    … a gallon of gasoline has 31,000 calories? (Well, that knocks gasoline off my diet list.)
    … the United States is the only industrialized nation that taxes its citizens who live overseas, even if their income is generated in a foreign country and they never return to America? (Cue the Beatles’ “Tax Man” song.)
    … there is no butter in buttermilk? (I have no objections to the taste of buttermilk. It’s the designs that it leaves in the glass that turn my stomach.)
    … you laugh when you’re tickled as a panic response? That’s why you can’t tickle yourself, because your body does not sense any danger. (How many of you just tried to tickle yourselves?)
    … there are no Burger King restaurants within 20 miles of Mattoon, Illinois? The reason is that, in 1968, a small restaurant called Burger King in Mattoon won a lawsuit against the fast-food giant because the small restaurant had trademarked the name in the state first. (But can you have it your way?)
    … the richest man in history is believed to be 14th-Century Malian emperor Mansa Musa? When adjusted for inflation, in today’s money, he had a net worth of $400 billion.
    Now … you know!

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      Well, here’s a bit of trivia for you, Commish:

      Buttermilk is the liquid left over from churning butter. Whole milk contains cream, which is allowed to separate in order to use it to produce butter. As the paddles turn, the fat become beads of butter, and the liquid (buttermilk) is thrown off by the churn’s paddles.

      Also, butter has to be washed in water as it is churned. Some milk solids still remain, which you’ll see as white foamy stuff when you melt butter.

    • jonp says:

      you laugh when you’re tickled as a panic response? That’s why you can’t tickle yourself, because your body does not sense any danger. (How many of you just tried to tickle yourselves?)

      umm…no comment

  8. Mick says:


  9. David says:

    Early, maybe 4th? Hard to tell with all the repeat posts.

  10. Roh-Dog says:

    Dang! Work is a … oh well.
    Long live the Republic!
    Have a great weekend y’all!!

  11. SFC D says:

    Present! Eleventeenth or so.

  12. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    12rd and Honorary First yet again.

  13. Devtun says:

    18 and Life.

  14. 26Limabeans says:

    21 and legal

  15. Mason says:

    I’m just proud of making it in the first 50

  16. The Stranger says:

    1st in everyone’s heart!

  17. NHSparky says:

    Somewhere in top 100.

    Shit, somebody here has to earn a paycheck, dammit!

  18. MCPO NYC USN Ret. says:


  19. Haywire Angel says:

    Present and ready to end this workweek. Bring on the weekend!

  20. MCPO NYC USN Ret. says:

    DAB is still dead!

  21. Ex-PH2 says:

    Somewhere in the Wilds of the Boondocks, I was too busy to remember, so Umpty-firth!

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      While I was out on maneuvers, foraging and looting, (and have to go back and do more foraging and pillaging), I saw six families of Canada geese, 4 duck families, and a turtle, but the trees are so far behind developing a leaf canopy that it looks like April instead of mid-May.
      3rd year in a row, too, so don’t tell me nothing is happening. And the small lakes and ponds are full to overflowing (thanks to Shu the Weather God) and the wetlands ditto.
      Many Bothans died to bring you this information.

  22. AW1Ed says:

    Three inches of rain already today at la Casa de AW1Ed, and two more expected. Who called for a monsoon?

  23. Former EM1/SS says:

    In honor of the second worst Secretary of State in US History (and the worst will never be president either)

    Reporting for Duty!

  24. Atkron says:

    Did anyone else see the latest in TFOA?

    An ammo box fell out of a helo into a Texas Classroom.

  25. thebesig says:

    As of May 18, 2018, Dennis Howard Chevalier, a.k.a. Denny H Chevalier, phony Gulf War veteran, phony veteran, phony C-130 compass call pilot, phony SWAT veteran, phony retired USAF Lieutenant Colonel… That Dennis Howard Chevalier… Still was arrested on February 27, 2018, for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

    He pointed a gun at his ex-wife and son, waved a loaded weapon around and pretended to shoot things, threatened an ex-fiancé with putting a round into her head, and then his arrest for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

    They need to take this guy’s weapons away before he shoots someone.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      He did it in Texas, so I’m sure he’s looking at a fair share of time as the “Property” of Bubba , Thor and the rest of his cell block.

      • Cheese Eater McBlobfish says:

        Already did that. They told me that if I could do an atomic sit up without getting my face planted into someone’s ass, that I would escape that fate. I worked like the dickens to hit that magic standard, but could not reach it like I could a bunch of asses.

        Several atomic sit up attempts, a sore abdomen, and a seriously smelly face later, I was declared their property. I can’t get rid of the smell.

        Dennis Howard Chevalier
        Denny H Chevalier

    • GDContractor says:

      Since Feb 27, 2018, Chevyliar has affiliated his State of Texas PI licence with The Texas Defense Force. http://www.txdf.org. I wonder if they know.

  26. AnotherPat says:

    How ironic:

    “Here are the Mugshots of the guys who allegedly run Mugshots.com and why they were booked”


    • 2/17 Air Cav says:

      Excellent! Glad to hear it. I can’t stand that stuff. I really can’t. It’s extortion plain as can be. I also don’t like newspaper accounts of arrests. The problem with the papers is that if charges are dismissed or the defendant is found not guilty or what have you, the papers do not publish that. There is no follow-up except in some serious felony cases. And that’s just rotten.

      • AnotherPat says:

        You nailed it…👍 Agree with you @ newspapers not following up with “the rest of the story”…

        According to this site, the 2 were arrested in Florida (Shock!)


        Why do I have this bad feeling that this case will go on trial forever….🤔

      • AnotherPat says:

        The other reason I agree on what you wrote about newspapers, 2/17 Air Cav…look what happened to this individual…so sad:


      • Perry Gaskill says:

        Such a kind of follow-up story used to be called a “folo” in the newspaper business. One of the reasons they tend to be difficult to do is because courts often work at a glacial pace, and with unpredictable schedules. Courts also almost never announce progress, you have to keep checking back.

        Back in the day, one of the things I used to do was a weekly sheriff’s log. Essentially a rewrite of the police blotter that’s a matter of public record. Something I found strange at the time was the relative popularity of the log among readers. There were probably multiple reasons including a big helping of schadenfreude.

        Logically, you would think somebody who doesn’t like local crime stories is probably also not going to like something such as Jonn’s “Feel Good” stories every morning, but I’m not sure that’s always the case.

        • 2/17 Air Cav says:

          The police blotter is nothing more than a gossip column by another name. If a paper cannot do follow-up then it ought not be reporting mere arrests, other than where public safety is at issue, such as an arrest in a series of burglaries or sexual assaults.

          • 2/17 Air Cav says:

            Here’s another point that irks me, aside from papers not reporting dismissals or not guilty verdicts. Many states (probably all) have statute that cuts a first-timer a break. With some variation, a misdemeanant can have his record expunged after a certain period elapses, if he has met the conditions for expungement. The public policy behind it is that if a person (usually a young person) screws up, that screw up should not follow him through life and impede his job or career hopes. Newspapers, however, are not bound by this and, thus, in this internet age, an arrest can be found even though the arrest was expunged. That sucks.

          • Perry Gaskill says:

            To be clear, Cav, the police blotter I’m talking about contains the brief raw incident reports from the cops. I’d disagree it qualifies as gossip in the sense of having a lot of rumor and innuendo. What was also true was that juveniles, and crazy people called 5150s, were not identified. Other people could sometimes be identified but you had to get a name from an arrest report which was separate.

            Readers apparently liked the sheriff’s log for helping them be somewhat in tune with local crime. Whether frequent incidents were happening in certain neighborhoods, say, or what happened on the next block last week with all the lights and sirens. Personally, I remember working with reporters who constantly had a police scanner going and always thought it was a bit obsessive. The mugshot peckerwoods, at least it seems to me, aren’t journalists in the usual sense. They’re paparazzi with a business model that, allegedly, includes extortion. See what I did there?

            My point about the extended timeline of court cases making a folo story difficult is also not something reporters like more than readers. It’s just the nature of the beast.

            As an example: A few years ago there was an experiment in local journalism done in Washington D.C. called Homicide Watch. It was put out by a husband-and-wife team who sought to track in detail the arc of all of the city’s murder cases from initial report to penalty phase. Homicide Watch got good reviews and made something of a splash in the journalism community, but ultimately had to fold within a couple of years. Sources of revenue couldn’t support the amount of workload needed to generate relatively little content.



    (And not that ghey 2011 remake)

  28. Gravel says:

    Am I first?

    (Of course I’m not LOL)

  29. Perry Gaskill says:

    For the motorheads among the TAH crew, this hit the radar earlier this week. It’s a link to a video recently released by the national archives on a 1919 trans-continental motorized expedition by the Army. Eisenhower was along as a young LTC at the time. It’s worth a watch.


  30. Skippy says:

    Reporting for roll call,,, from Sin city
    Nice owls Lol…
    two more weeks and the Skippy can will be fully
    Relocated to the mountains of New Mexico
    Hope all are having a awesome day

  31. AnotherPat says:

    Thanks for sharing, Perry. That was interesting.

    Found on the same site a National Archives Video of activities at the Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth (filmed around 1919?):


  32. Sapper3307 says:

    “Nobody needs a revolver that holds six shots”
    David Hogg #SoyMilk

  33. LC says:

    Wired had a good write-up on Robert Mueller’s time in Vietnam here. It’s certainly worth a read:


    • rgr769 says:

      I didn’t read it because I don’t give a shit what he tells people he did in the Viet of the Nam. It has no bearing on who he has become. Just like Lurch’s four months in country, it has no bearing on his conduct for the past 47 years. He is a Deep State swamp critter who thinks he shits ice cream and there aren’t enough spoons to go around. Most of us here think he is corrupt. His connections to Comey and his selection of Hidabeast supporting lawers for his witch hunt prove it. But you keep drinking the proggie Kool-Aid.

      • LC says:

        This is still a milblog, is it not? This is an article about a guy who chose to serve, went through Ranger School, Jump School and then served in Vietnam in some of the most heated combat, for which he was awarded numerous honors, including a Bronze Star with Combat V.

        He’s also a life-long Republican who was a bi-partisan choice to be a special prosecutor…. but hey, yep, total ‘deep state’ swamp critter who is somehow a secret liberal plant and not worth learning anything about.

        You’re a sharp one, rgr769.

        • Perry Gaskill says:

          LC, it’s also been said Hitler was kind to dogs and small children. Before praising the virtues of Robert Mueller, it might be useful to take a look at a document written by Congressman Louie Gohmert about Mueller’s recent activities such as the ones rgr769 was pointing out. It’s long, but worth reading:


          Credit goes to Ex-PH2 for providing the link a couple of weeks ago.

        • 5JC says:

          All Bronze Stars are “combat” medals, even the ones for merit. They don’t get awarded outside a “combat zone”. The “V” doesn’t stand for combat.

          And just because it was not awarded for valor does not mean the awardee wasn’t in actual combat.

        • rgr769 says:

          Keep drinking that proggie propaganda. But since I served fifteen months in infantry combat units in Viet Nam, went to Jump School, Ranger school, and Special Forces school, I am not impressed. I suggest you look into his activities as a supervising attorney in Boston trying to keep four innocent men in prison, three of whom were sentenced death, so he could protect a criminal FBI agent in cahoots with Whitey Bulger. That miscarriage of justice only cost the taxpayers 10 million dollars in damages and two of the innocent men died in prison. Guess who opposed them getting out on four occasions? You might also want to look at what he did as head of the FBI. So, I guess I am sharper than your average prog like you. Saying he is a Republican is meaningless to me. He is corrupt.

          • rgr769 says:

            Having read Congressman Gomert’s article, I correct my error, by a factor of ten, above. Mueller’s corrupt Boston FBI agents cost the taxpayers over 100 million dollars in settlement payouts to the living men falsely imprisoned and the families of those who died in prison. Also, Gomert’s article, which is fully documented, show’s just how corrupt Mueller was as Director of the FBI, in attempting to cover up the Able Danger FBI eff-up that might have prevented 9-11 and seeking revenge against Curt Weldon for exposing it. Mueller is corrupt to the core.

        • OWB says:

          Why should any of us (including you) care about his political affiliation either then or now? You actually pretend that bad behavior should be excused depending upon things other than the bad behavior?

          No. That is wrong, LC. You know it, and accusing those who disagree with of being hypocrites just because you apparently are is inexcusable whether this is a milblog or something else entirely.

    • 11B-Mailclerk says:


      Whatever he may have -been-, he has gone seriously bad, and it wasn’t – recent-.

      Veteran does not equal saint.

      Veteran does not mean incorruptible.

      And in the case of Muller, I believe we have a walking, talking example of “power corrupts”.

      Whatever he was, he went Sith.

  34. gitarcarver says:

    Shortly after the Texas shooting today, the local paper put out an article on “How To Survive an Active Shooter.” The article cites our County Sheriff, Wayne Ivey.


    Ivey says that people should take four steps to survive. The last one is perplexing to me and as there is a vast amount of experience with weapons, law enforcement, etc here on TAH, I was wondering if this advice (in bold) would be considered accurate by the people here:

    • Awareness: Know your surroundings and routinely ask yourself, “what if?” Look for exits, potential items that can be used as a weapon and areas that can be used as a cover.

    • Avoidance: Always try and escape or evacuate. Encourage others to leave with you. Remember what’s important: You, not your personal belongings. Put distance between yourself and the threat. There’s a difference between hiding and barricading yourself. Turn out lights, silence cell phones and be prepared to attack. If there are multiple people in the room, spread out to attack from different angles.

    • Arm: If you have a concealed carry permit and the venue allows you to carry your gun, then by all means you should have your gun with you. Be prepared to defend yourself. When the prey is armed, the predator thinks twice. Fight for survival and think of possible weapons around you — knife, scissors, fire extinguishers, chairs, lamp, etc.

    • Attack: Attack and fight like your life depends on it. Aim for the head area so the suspect becomes distracted. Commit to taking the shooter down no matter what. Make sure your actions never put other innocent bystanders at risk.

    People and personnel in schools are not carrying long weapons with them, so is that advice correct for handguns?

    Thanks in advance.

    • AW1Ed says:

      I don’t think he’s implying a handgun, though that would be optimum- more like attack with whatever comes quickly to hand.

    • LC says:

      Agree with AW1Ed – this isn’t advice for guns, it’s just saying, “Throw shit at their head”. Chairs, bricks, phones, even balled up paper, whatever you’ve got. People instinctively protect their head and won’t be able to aim or identify incoming attacks as easily.

      I’ve seen schools practice this with police.

    • 11B-Mailclerk says:

      standard advice for the average armed person is “aim center mass”

      You can do headshots on demand with plenty of practice. The sweet spot is the size of a playing card, turned horizontal. -lots- of practice.

      Under the stress of a gunfight, you may have as little as 40% of your practiced ability, as fine motor skill is lost first and fast under dire stress

      Thus “center mass”.

      But if you are reduced to the equivalent of ” fling crap”, the head is best bet. Be -enthusiastic-

    • gitarcarver says:

      Thanks folks.

      There was a discussion at a Council meeting where this was brought up and no one interpreted as you do.

      It makes sense, and perhaps this is just a case of poorly worded or a poor list.

      Thanks to you all as your thoughts have cleared this up.

    • GDContractor says:

      Depends of the range.

  35. Skippy says:

    The golden knights take it 3-2
    Live report from sin city

  36. fsckity fsck says:

    John Giduck – the turd with a face!

  37. Flagwaver says:

    Here’s a good joke for you vets out there.

    Whats the difference between and epileptic oyster shucker and a prostitute with diarrhea?

    One shucks between fits…

  38. Hack Stone says:

    Dallas Wittgenfeld gets released from his latest six moth residency courtesy of the local correctional facility, and he picks up the phone and calls Joseph Cryer. The conversation goes like this:

    Dallas Wittgenfeld: Joe, this is Dallas, I just returned from my latest “long range patrol”.

    Joseph Cryer: Welcome back. Did you get that tube of “I Can’t Believe It’s Not KY Jelly” that I sent you?

    Dallas Wittgenfeld: Yes, I did. In the end, it really came in handy.

    Joseph Cryer: No problem, I know what a pain in the ass being locked up can be.

    Dallas Wittgenfeld: Anyway, thanks for taking care of things while I was gone. When can I pick up my cat from you?

    Joseph Cryer: I have some bad news. Your cat died.

    Dallas Wittgenfeld: My cat died? That’s awful.

    Joseph Cryer: Yes, it is. Unfortunately, these things happen.

    Dallas Wittgenfeld: If you have bad news, it is best to break it gently.

    Joseph Cryer: What should I have said?

    Dallas Wittgenfeld: You could have said something like “The cat was out on the garage roof chasing squirrels, and jumped to catch a squirrel, and ended up being trapped in a tree. He was stuck in the tree and couldn’t get down. I didn’t have a ladder tall enough to reach him, so I called the Fire Department. They sent a ladder truck, and the fireman was able to get the cat out, but as he was climbing down the ladder, the cat slipped from his grasp and plummeted to the ground. We rushed the cat to the veterinarian, and they tried all that they could, but the damage was too much, and they had to put the cat down.” That’s how you break bad news.

    Joseph Cryer: Thanks. I’ll remember that the next time I have to tell someone bad news.

    Dallas Wittgenfeld: So, what’s up with Daniel Bernath? He never called or visited while I was locked up?

    Joseph Cryer: Well, he was out on the garage roof chasing squirrels…

  39. Twist says:

    My tickle monster POS brother-in-law still has not made his $1 million bail (this is my shocked face). I wish he would hurry up and plea guilty so that he can start his 2+ centuries of time in prison. The Christian in me wants to pray for his soul. The Father in me hopes that he gets put in general population and not protective custody.

  40. OWB says:

    The Armed Forces Day and Memorial Day festivities kick off today. Parades, VFW Poppies, ceremonies and placing flags on veteran graves are among those things I will be involved in over the next 10 days or so. Busy, busy, busy.

    My challenge to each of you is to find at least one event in which to participate in some way. Many of these events just need passive members of the crowd while others need more active participation. However you are able, please give at least a prayer of support to something in your community which honors our military and our veterans.

    • AnotherPat says:

      OWB: Just as you shared and recommended about Wreaths Across America, will take your challenge and partake in Memorial Day events as a volunteer.

      Thank you for sharing and as one Veteran to another Veteran, thank you for all you do to remember our troops, past and present.


  41. Ex-PH2 says:

    Looks like Kilauea has hit the water table level and has sent up a steam explosion, as was predicted. Also appears, in some of those photos, that there are two calderas, but that could be something else. Busy place, though, and nothing will ever again be the same in that area.


  42. ALVO says:

    92nd!! Winnar…. 😛

  43. Ex-PH2 says:

    I have a couple of questions about fireplace chimneys:

    1 – If you build a masonry/stone fireplace, can the stonemason put in a side oven for baking, and does it need a flue to let heat into the oven?

    2 – Are those creosote-clearing logs really worth the money they cost, if you aren’t burning high-tar wood like pine? (Never ever burn pine indoors. NEVER.)

    • rgr769 says:

      A good old-fashioned chimney sweep could likely do more to clean a fireplace chimney than anything you could burn in the fireplace.

    • 5JC says:

      The answers to #1 are yes and maybe. There are different kinds.

      • Ex-PH2 says:

        I went looking for the kind of fireplace I was thinking of, the 18th century Rumford, which can have a side oven with a flue built into the sidewall of the main fireplace.

        And the more you know how to do without modern conveniences, the better, in my view.

        • Perry Gaskill says:

          The attraction of the Rumford, they indeed date back to colonial days, is that it had a relatively tall opening height and shallow depth. The idea was to have more heat radiating into the room instead of going up the chimney. They were also, according to the scant anecdotal evidence available, notoriously difficult to build. Get the design wrong, and the chimney wouldn’t draw smoke very well.

          Although it might be possible to add a warming oven to one, thank thermodynamic conduction, it would probably be very difficult to find a mason willing to tap into an existing flue to be shared. My experience has been that brick chimneys almost always are lined with a large firebrick-type piping that makes things problematic. Adding a separate baking oven flue to an existing chimney is also difficult and might mean having to tend to two heat sources.

          While it’s true that wood species relates to creosote build-up, I’d venture that the relative greenness of the wood is also important. Most reputable vendors won’t sell firewood unless it’s had a chance to cure and dry for about a year. Creosote is also why they tend to avoid fast-growing eucalyptus in the Southwest. Eucs also have the additional downside of normally best being cut and split while still green. Let things sit too long and they becomes a bear to work with.

  44. 11B-Mailclerk says:

    HRC, insisting that -Trump- is a Russian tool, was waving her Soviet-badged Ushenko (fur hat) while addressing Yale.

    That crazy vodka-swilling harpie just does -not- understand optics, or apparently irony.


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