‘I will kill you face’

| May 22, 2018 | 78 Comments

A choir director charged Marine Colonel Joseph Murray with using his “I will kill you face” and knife hands in an encounter near Quantico Marine Corps base in Virginia, according to USA Today;

An inspector general’s inquiry found merit in DeSilva’s complaint that Murray had intimidated her when he confronted her in a rage, but could not determine if he had broken the law. The Marines also found “no probable cause supporting any misconduct” by Murray or the investigators in the case of Father Kieran Mandato, according to a Marine Corps spokesman.

The church flap joins a growing list of problems at Quantico, known as the “Crossroads of the Marine Corps,” involving allegations of sexual harassment and a toxic work environment. The base is about 30 miles south of Washington.

DeSilva and Mandato, a retired Navy chaplain and former contract priest at Quantico, said in interviews that Murray’s actions had terrified them. The incidents arose from disputes about payments to Mandato, a roster of parishioners he had at his home and perceived personal slights from the pulpit.

DeSilva in her complaint to the inspector general said, “While it may be appropriate for every Marine to have an ‘I will kill you face,’ it is not appropriate to use that face on a 52-year-old female choir director in church.”

“I feared for my life,” Mandato said.

So, apparently, folks can construe facial expressions as assault. The investigators found “No probable cause supporting any misconduct” by Colonel Murray.

Category: Marine Corps

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  1. David says:

    I always thought an “I will kill you face” was a gentle smile… puts ’em off guard.

  2. Ret_25X says:

    oh no! Not a facial expression! Run! Run! Everyone will die from it!

    What kind of shit for brains snowflake feels “assaulted” by a facial expression?

    Every day I think that people cannot be more stupid …I need to stop thinking that…these people apparently take it as a challenge…

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      What kind of shit for brains snowflake…?

      Try reading “Tuesdays With Clarmore” for further enlightenment. It is amazing how quickly and easily they become entrenched in feeling butthurt about everything.

      • David says:

        A principal in New Jersey had to apologize to certain students who felt the school prom slogan of “Party Like It’s 1776” was wayciss because, you know, there were slaves then. I wish I were kidding.

        • Ex-PH2 says:

          Their ignorance of the Colonial era is appalling. There were indentured /bond servants who had far fewer amenities of any kind than any of the so-called slaves in the Colonies, and who would be advertised as runaways if they ran off and failed to fulfill their contracts.

          The rewriting of history has to stop.

    • AZtoVA says:

      If looks could kill… and apparently now they do?

  3. CPT11A says:

    Civilians have a stupid conception of what qualifies as intimidating or aggressive.

    I had a complaint lodged against me at my son’s daycare the other day. He’s lactose intolerant, and when I picked him up that day, he was eating a snack that we hadn’t provided. I asked his caretaker to show me the bag so that I could confirm that it was safe for him to eat, she responded, “oh, he can eat those!”

    I said, “Then please show me the bag, and I’ll confirm it.” Just like that- didn’t raise my voice or curse or anything. Just directly and firmly made a request for the protection of my child.

    But apparently I yelled at her, and am not to speak to her like that again.

  4. Jeff LPH 3, 63-66 says:

    Ban Assault faces and register existing ones. 1st A under fire.

  5. Ex-PH2 says:

    What in the blue-eyed world is an ‘I will kill you’ face?

    Are these people so afraid of emotions that everything in the real world is a threat to them? And I mean everything?

    Is there any way to make them grow up?

    I keep thinking about one episode in ‘Frasier’ when he visits someone’s family and the Mom is one of those ‘everything is just fine, nothing is wrong, just maintain an even strain, everything is just fine….’ people who are seething and boiling underneath.

    Anyone who is “terrified” by someone who disagrees with him is badly in need of some real counseling in the real world.

  6. OldManchu says:

    But… but… I thought girl Marines were 0311 now and all that?

  7. IDC SARC says:

    I wanna charge them with with attempted murder…their complaint made me laugh so hard I thought I was gonna die.

  8. Gravel says:

    Peak fucking idiocy

  9. 26Limabeans says:

    “Look at me woman.
    I will cut you bitch”

    Now that would be inappropriate

  10. SSG Kane says:

    My brain had trouble with this article and originally parsed it as “A choir director Marine Colonel Joseph Murray with saying “I will kill UR FACE”

    Which I found to be a strangely inarticulate threat for a Marine Colonel to be making…but still makes more sense than “using his ‘I will kill you face’”.

  11. Daisy Cutter says:

    Is “talk to the hand” going to go by the wayside now?

  12. The Other Whitey says:

    Seriously? Bitch, please.

  13. Ex-PH2 says:

    I want to write COL Murray a fan letter, but it might throw him off his game of making an “I want to kill you face”. Ergo, I will abstain and admire him from Afar, near an active volcano.

  14. JURRASICHM says:

    Hopefully no one will actually threaten the poor little cupcake. She might piss herself and die.

  15. Gravel says:

    This is actually pretty damned worthy of becoming an internet meme.

  16. Jay says:

    Annnnnnd it’s official. May 22nd 2018, the day the world officially broke me. “I will kill you” face. And thus it ends, not with a BANG but a whimper….


    Was it a full-semi-auto ” i kill you face” with a barrel shroud?


    Next thing…..a ‘come f**k me’ face will be considered sexual assault

  19. NHSparky says:

    If looks could kill….

    Oh wait. They can’t.

  20. H1 says:

    Knife hands are issued, final phase @PI.
    And, the war face self generates after a coupla hits from pugil sticks.

  21. Old Trooper says:

    I was going to say that they’re pussies, but that has already been established. So I will just shake my head in shame for what gutless little babies our society has become.

  22. Roh-Dog says:

    I had to read the article three times to suss out wtf actually happened. My take, a Marine and a ‘contract priest’ pissed off a real Marine over improper Marine-ing, the real Marine confronted them and they proceeded to get really butthurt.
    Well… I’m sure the Russians are going to enjoy our state of readiness and bravado.
    Keep it up snowflakes.
    Oh, and to the journo that wrote this article; screw you, wtf does back story of other ‘problems’ at Quantico have to do with this?

  23. Ex-PH2 says:

    I’m curious about this phrase: ‘perceived personal slights from the pulpit…’

    There is no description of these ‘slights’, or exactly what was said, but if it was personal stuff aired in church and aimed at the colonel, one would have to ask why. That kind of thing is grossly inappropriate and should be dealt with privately.

    Some of this stuff is annoying, and some of it does not make any sense at all.

  24. FuzeVT says:

    Ah yes, my home turf. I saw this early the other morning while prepping for the Marine Corps Historic Half Marathon.

    I agree with just about all of the comments above. This is the height of lunacy. The colonel is an intense guy and I’m sure that may be intimidating to your average mousey choir director. This is, however, a Marine base. It is in this place that the concepts were devised that won the Pacific war. It is where people come up with the concepts for defeating the next enemy way may face in the Pacific. Civilians on base generally have served, are retired or have grown up around Marines, e.g. spouses and children. They should know that Marines get intense. If you don’t like it, probably shouldn’t work at a place that SERVES MARINES!

    This is just a bunch of bullshit typical of the kind of complaints that serves to put warfighting, and the development of TTPs, in second place.

    Certainly can’t have people thinking about winning wars and making Marines when their are offended choir directors to pacify.

  25. Martinjmpr says:

    Well, I can only assume that Col. Murray is a flaming asshole – not because of this incident, but because he’s a Marine Colonel.

    Not only is being a flaming asshole not a disqualifier for that position, from my experience, it’s a job requirement for any O-6. You don’t rise to that level in any branch of service by being Mister Rogers.

    DeSilva might need to brush up on what the Marines are and what they do because it doesn’t seem like she understands the organization she’s working with.

    As for Mandato, as a retired chaplain, he has no excuse.

    [blockquote]”I feared for my life,” Mandato said.” [/blockquote]

    Guy was a chaplain in the Navy long enough to retire and he “feared for his life” when he got yelled at by a Marine colonel? Yeah, I’m not buying that. Not for a second.

    • RGR 4-78 says:

      “Col. Murray is a flaming asshole”

      Exactly, leaders are supposed to be that way, who in their right mind would follow some soft core cheese dick into the jaws of death and expect to win.

    • timactual says:

      There is a lot of middle ground between Mr. Rogers and flaming asshole. Mr. Rogers may not inspire confidence, but Flaming Asshole does not inspire loyalty or confidence.

  26. 1610desig says:

    to complete the scene of the “kill you face” and “knife hands”, the priests or whatever they were might as well have donned pink pussy hats and pissed their pants…what brave people of the cloth they were…it’s like they were about to be scourged and nailed to a cross??! What did they expect working at Quantico? Dipshits

  27. FatCircles0311 says:

    Fuck with the Marines and get the Kill Face! 🤣

    That cunt is a piece of work. It’s always the offended ones that are the real “toxic” people. Why in the fuck is CID knocking on doors regarding a list of names? That is absolutely ridiculous and shows how moonbat this woman was when challenged over her bullshit. No doubt queen hen thought she ran the show and how dare anyone question her. We all know people like this and she gets away Scott free by making numerous false reports and real harassamnet.

    • David says:

      List of the names the chaplain had purportedly contained PI so CID investigated. They found there was no PI in the list, cleared the chaplain and commander, and went away. Routine follow-up unless you believe the ‘chaplain’ that they stormed his house like Iwo Jima. Read the USA today article.

  28. Prior Service says:

    My next assignment is with the IG. Is this what I have to look forward to? If so, it might not be all that bad….

  29. Atkron says:

    Was Mikey Weinstein available for comment?

  30. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    Those are some 24K SNOWFLAKES, “intimidated” by a mudda-fuckin’ facial expression? they sound like the type that would take a five minute look at TAH and faint!

  31. E4 Mafia For Life. says:

    In 1987 when I was going thru OSUT, the cadre spoke of “Adverse Facial Expressions.”
    I don’t necessary think it was the beginning of the PC movement but there to address smart ass/dumb ass recruits from making faces behind or in front of a Drill Sergeant or any NCO/Officer.
    Correct me if I’m wrong but it might have been codified in UCMJ.

  32. 5JC says:


  33. MrGrumpy1964 says:

    Since the offended party is a choir director, maybe we need a rousing chorus of the TAH Hymn (or Her)!

  34. timactual says:

    What a fun place of worship. Choir Director snipes at the officiating Priest during the service, the retired Chaplain tells the congregants at the end of his final service he won’t be back because the nasty ol’ Col. won’t let him compete for a new contract. And then he probably closed with something like–

    “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all and give you peace.”

  35. OWB says:

    Evidently the kill you face was completely unsuccessful. Instead of intimidating her, this snowflake is whining about it.

  36. Mason says:

    I suppose if he smiled she’d think it was sexist, sarcastic, and insincere. Face rape maybe.

  37. A Proud Infidel®™️ says:

    If they’re THAT intimidated by a facial expression then WTF are they doing working for the USMC? I’m sure they’d even shit their pantyhose being around the Air Force!

  38. Jarhead says:

    So far no one has identified the need for “The Look” to be cast upon Ms. Snowflake. Could it be she and her choir members fucked up the singing of the Marine Corps Hymn? And all you got was “The Look”? Oh please bytch. Lucky you didn’t get your dildo coated with super glue and broken glass shards.

  39. STGSN says:

    Last time I checked, a requisite quality for a leadership billet in the United States Marine Corps was that said Marine was SUPPOSED to look intimidating? Isn’t that what they’re paid for? Or did I miss something along the way?

  40. NHSparky says:

    “I will kill you face”:

    For when “resting bitch face” just isn’t enough.

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