Enough is enough already.

| September 18, 2018 | 86 Comments

How many Veteran Charities are there?  Would you say 1,500?  Maybe 15,000 or more?   According to the IRS there are more than 40,000 Veteran Charities.  At what point will we as a Veteran community tell people to knock it off already?

 

Link HERE

This does not include the myriad of Local, State and Federal government organizations who support Veterans.  It seems that there is a constant roll out of new programs to assist Veterans these days, even the Shitbirds.

The Veterans Health Administration in 2017 offered to treat vets who don’t normally qualify for care because they earned a less-than-honorable discharge. Almost no one used the program.

Now veterans’ groups are hoping a change in the program will help that group of veterans when they struggle with thoughts of suicide.

Roadside Bomb

At his home outside San Diego, former Marine Lance Cpl. Josh Onan keeps some photographs next to his TV. The photos are from his days as a Marine. In 2006, he was in Ramadi, Iraq when his Humvee was hit by a roadside bomb.

“I remember laying down in the truck. Waking up, there is dust and debris all over me,” Onan said. “And there was an Iraqi colonel, who is sitting in the truck with us and he’s just screaming, screaming and I don’t understand what he’s saying. So, that’s when I realized, ‘Oh here we go, something big is happening.’”

During the next year, Onan would be in and out of trouble: small infractions, which he chalks up to the amount of medication prescribed for his head injury and post-traumatic stress disorder. Then, while on leave, he was caught with a small amount of cocaine. That was it. He was kicked out of the Marines.

Onan looks at a picture of himself in his battle gear.

“I’m 32 years old now, and this guy is 20, and I look up to this guy,” he said. “I know it’s me but I miss everything about him. Sometimes it’s hard to find this guy.”

Onan is one of the thousands of veterans who have other-than-honorable discharges. They don’t typically qualify for VA benefits, even though vets like Onan have a high suicide rate.

To address that, the VA last summer started a new program: this group of veterans can come into the VA and be treated for mental health issues at least for 90 days.

KPBS asked the VA how many people used the program in the first year. The VA figures show nationally 115 veterans used the program. Advocates said the number is a fraction of the veterans who would now qualify for mental health care. Twenty-five of those patients were in San Diego.

“They came in saying they had an urgent need and they were evaluated and received care for that urgent need whether it was a substance use disorder or suicidal thoughts,” said Dr. Neal Doran, of VA San Diego.   Article HERE

So now the VA has the mandate to search out and identify the people who could not manage to honorably complete their military service.  Everyone should join the military for at least a few days so they will be taken care of for the rest of their lives.  All any veteran has to do is say they have thoughts of canceling their birthday and the sky will open up.   I would debunk the “22 A Day” myth again but why bother people with facts when they have already made up their minds.

While a certain Jew-ish Lawyer type keeps stuffing his pockets with money donated by gullible denigrates, the people he tends to attack are stuck in the trenches trying to deal with these problems in real time.

Chaplains discuss their history and experiences working with suicide cases at Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, California, Feb. 11, 2015.

Article HERE

Honestly, with all the VSO’s and Charities out there…one would think enough is enough already.

Category: Military issues, Veteran Health Care, Veterans Issues

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  1. Combat Historian says:

    Soon there will be more veterans’ charities than there are actual veterans…

  2. Mason says:

    Must be a lot money to be had from government for all this. One thousand of them in DC alone? Follow the money. Cause there aren’t that many vets living in DC.

    • Ret_25X says:

      DC and the surrounding area are literally awash in veterans–particularly retirees. There are so many veterans in NOVA that there are neighborhoods built for retired officers only.

      It doesn’t surprise me. Mostly mild weather, several posts with commissaries, PXs, and clinics. Not to mention Walter Reed/Bethesda. In addition, there are literally thousands of jobs for us.

      When I was stationed at Fort Hood and read info that 285,000 retires lived in central Texas I was not surprised. It would not surprise me to learn that up to a million veterans live in the larger DC metro area.

  3. Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

    So what if that dude kills himself?

    Are we worse off because he is no longer here?

    Life isn’t for everyone, no different than old age not everyone gets the privilege.

    Suicide is a waste of the gift you were given, but a lot of people waste that gift through a variety of stupid actions and decisions.

    I knew a Vietnam Vet who took himself out back in the 1980s it was the best thing that happened to his family. Once that piece of shit was dead they were able to move on and the replacement husband/stepdad was a far better human.

    There are lots of people in this world who want to be here, stop worrying about the people who don’t.

    • Man so critical aren’t we. I’ve managed to survive pretty much of my life without VA help, not that they have done much for me in the past 10 years. Suicide is not the answer, as you seem to think it is. The answer to things is instead of using just drugs to solve the problem, yeah you get to sleep a lot and thus live in a drug induced foggy state, but to try and find ways for one to cope using their mind. Frontal lobotomy, nah was a lot easier to cope in the past with a bottle in front of me and again we just had mind altering and no real solution. After some how surviving 50+plus years, lousy aiming by mortar rounds from those out side the fence, 2 piss poor suicide attempts, 3 days in coma, with no support except from some friends on the outside of your social society, I have to apologize to you for taking up space in your lala life. But I live on despite of you and your opinions, I have someone in my life now who is here when I need them and am enjoying my life watching 3 children, 2 grand children and 3 great grand children grow and survive at the price of 58000 plus and those who have since passed due to agent orange and related injuries from our past. Since it appears you or any of your family never served our country may you have a good life and raise you children and grand children like you were raised and continue spitting on those who serve and have served.

      • Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

        This might be the stupidest fucking answer in the history of answers…what a rambling pile of words.

        Comprehend much bro?

        You want to be here?
        That’s good be here.

        You want to kill yourself because you can’t stand being alive?
        Then don’t be here.
        Just stop fucking whining about it like a little bitch about “oh woe is me”….

        • Go back to your video games, and camel humping, dick wipe.

          • Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

            Sure thing dipshit, you have no fucking idea who I am or where I served…but keep thinking you know…

            • Don’t really care as to either or even the fact that you think of yourself being self important to the world. Any dumbass who promotes suicide such as you do never faced any reality as to war. Am just glad that we had ROK doing area security as to the fact if you would have had the job the place would never been built as you would have been routed out of the area by charlie before even got started.

              • Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

                I’m not any more important than you sport, which is to say I absolutely don’t matter any more than you do. Neither of us matter at all to the world. It won’t stop spinning for either of us. For anyone really.
                The difference between us is I don’t turn into a whiny little twat when someone says something I don’t like and pretend my world experience makes me a better human, that’s your deal. Your opinion carries no more weight than anyone else here.

                You read what I wrote and you think I am advocating suicide, I’m not at all. All I’m saying is if you believe that’s your ticket out of your misery good for you why should I give a shit?

                Maybe when you see the number of murder suicides that some of us see you’d start hoping the suicidal fucks took themselves out before harming their “loved ones”…

                You served, you had a rough go for a bit. I get that part and I certainly thank you for your service. Good on you for managing to overcome your addiction and mental illness issues.

                • 2/17 Air Cav says:

                  Mr. Schwarz: I read your comments directed at VOV and you could be further off target but I don’t know how. He doesn’t need my backup but you have gotten to me in the way you attacked him. So, stick around and take shit if you like, or apologize and start fresh. Your choice.

    • Comm Center Rat says:

      VOV: again you are a beacon of clarity and truth. I agree with you – let’s stop worrying about the people who don’t want to be here. Some folks are in love with dying.

      As a VA worker I knew three veterans who committed suicide. All three abused drugs and\or alcohol. Each assaulted or killed a family member before killing themselves. Perhaps the greatest legacy these three left was the chance for the survivors to heal and someday experience a loving relationship.

      When I was with VA, a majority of the suicides were committed by non-combat veterans. But that’s not an attention grabbing statistic while the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan continue although with smaller troop numbers. Some folks, including veterans, will always be in love with dying.

      • rgr769 says:

        People that kill themselves are frequently screwed-up, extremely unhappy and failures at life. Usually, the fact they served in the military, many for only a few weeks or months, has little to do with why they selected themselves out of the living. But that reality does not serve the media’s fake meme that he/she/xit offed themselves because of angst over their claimed service experiences. Not surprised that most of the self-killers of whom you are aware never served in combat.

      • Am so glad a VA worker explained things so well. Seems combat was people that were out in the field under constant possibility of attack and non combat were ones who sat on land locked bases, Gee such a nice perspective. Apparently Uncle Ho didn’t get that memo, mortar and rocket attacks many nights, sapper attacks, live grenades found on runway, twin 50’s constantly at night, outgoing mortar rounds across base from ROK camp to outlaying targets, AC-47 taking off at night being chased by tracers and AC-47 off base providing near base support to ground troops, bombing runs in view of base and mortar rounds coming into barracks area, one about 20 feet behind me, and the alert birds scrambling 24/7. Yep MR VA us noncombat were worthless.

        • timactual says:

          So sorry that all that noise bothered you. I know how traumatic that can be, as that kind of place is where they sent us to relax and get some rest after a few weeks or so of playing out in the bush. Perhaps you should have volunteered to serve in a rifle company. It’s (usually) much quieter out in the bush.

        • Comm Center Rat says:

          The VA makes no distinction between those who heard shots fired in anger, took indirect fire, engaged in offensive action, or never went outside the wire nor whether their service was on land, in the air, or in territorial waters. If you have a campaign or expeditionary medal, received hostile fire pay or imminent danger pay, you are a combat veteran.

          My comments above were not intended to diminish anyone’s service in a designated combat zone during any era. The point I wish to make is that a majority of the veterans who kill themselves never served in a combat zone. Some Soldiers actually do kill themselves in combat zones. The infantry division I was assigned to in northern Iraq lost a Sergeant Major and a Sergeant to suicide.

          I don’t have a dog in the hunt at VA – it was only one federal agency I worked for before retiring from civil service. What’s important to remember is that when a veteran uses drugs and\or alcohol he often harms those he loves the most – usually with unimaginable violence and brutality. It’s the classic definition of insanity: repeating the same action or behavior while expecting a different outcome. The veteran becomes a destroyer of many lives, not just of his own. And that, to me, is the real tragedy.

        • OldManchu says:

          OH hell no! Not the twin 50’s!!!!!!

    • Green Thumb says:

      Word, Brother.

      Word.

    • OmegaPaladin says:

      VOV,

      I think you are way off base here – not every dude who eats his gun is a douchebag. People get clinical depression, where the chemicals in your brain get screwed up. People have life fall apart on them and start looking for a permanent solution to temporary problems. I’ve known people who were in the hellhole, got help, and got back to being normal people.

      Also, some douchebags who commit suicide decide to take other people with them. I don’t just mean the 72 virgin goat express, I mean bastards who kill their family before offing themselves.

  4. Denise Williams says:

    Admittedly, math is not my strong suit but those numbers work out to one charity, nonprofit, or organization for every 511 veterans. Now add in all the programs from faith-based organizations… If even half of these organizations actually fulfilled their stated mission, veterans would be the most supported and cared-for demographic in the nation.

    As for the VA taking “Other”, that is nothing new. The only “veterans” who are truly ineligible are those who had a DD, or who are convicted and serve time for a Class X Felony. If you have bad paper and are service connected and are poor enough… Remember Obama’s campaign promise of 2009? Every veteran deserves treatment at the VA? Promised to, and did open all categories, and unless I’m mistaken there are 7, to VA care. Then VA Secy Shinseki admitted the VA can’t handle those numbers, said the VA is already lagging behind need, which led directly to the years-long wait lists, secret wait-lists, etc., etc.

    To add a bit more joy to your morning, don’t worry about even those with a Class X, there are organizations for them, too. Class Xers have to live somewhere when released from prison; they are mostly unemployable; they cannot reside in Federally (or most State or Locally) subsidized housing, but that doesn’t mean they don’t get money for housing. There is an organization near me that “houses” these Class Xers who once wore the uniform, (they also take those with DD, or any discharge status) in a group home setting. These “veterans” get about $550.00 per month, which they pay to this organization to live in the group home. Plus, there are food stamps, medical, transportation/bus (usually locally funded) passes… This group home, actually two buildings, have a total of 16-23 residents.

    Do the math and you’ll have the answer to why there are so many veteran service organizations. Like I’ve said a million times, “The hero business is lucrative”.

    • 26Limabeans says:

      Seven levels of priority for care.
      Service connected PTSD is top priority.
      I almost puked when I read that.

      • Denise Williams says:

        Actually, service connected PTSD as a top priority is a good thing. Info is being gathered, studies are being done, to find a medically validated “test” for PTSD. Ultimately, PTSD will be classed as a medical not psychological injury. Then, no more “claims” of PTSD instead of the more accurate diagnoses of personality disorders, adjustment disorders, etc. Then those who actually have the physiological, neurological injury that is PTSD will be able to be properly diagnosed and treated.

        But, being that the VA is a Federal bureau, there will be another program to care for those personality or adjustment disorders that were somehow caused by their service. PTSD is real, does deserve treatment, but it is also a catchall, overused and abused term, too. I’m all for being that abuse.

    • timactual says:

      Eight priority groups. I know a guy who used to get all his medical needs taken care of at his local VA, but got offended and stopped when they started requiring co-pays.

      https://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/resources/publications/hbco/hbco_enrollment_eligibility.asp

  5. 26Limabeans says:

    Hawaii has 129 charities.
    WTF?

  6. SGT Fon says:

    all those charities and i can’t get a one to help me put up hog fence or help me plant stakes for chicken wire….

  7. NHSparky says:

    Aside from the occasional discount at Lowes, I can pretty safely say I’ve never used any form of charity intended for vets. Meh.

    • USAF RET says:

      Same. Worked for a while after retiring trying to get jobs for disabled vets. Most of the “disabilities” were incarceration, intoxication or homeless. Probably 10% really wanted to work. The rest just wanted “whatever you have that is free”

    • Carlton G. Long says:

      I will admit to leading a couple assaults at Golden Corral on Veterans’ night, but I didn’t cut in line at any point, and my “war stories” were limited to my actual experience pumping gas and driving my old HEMTT.

    • ArmyATC says:

      Same here. When I came back from Iraq in a wheelchair I called several of those charities to ask about getting a ramp built to my house. The standard response was “that’s not what we do.” So I bought an aluminum ramp and my son placed it for me. I rarely ask about veteran’s discounts unless it’s a high ticket item and I don’t waste my time on so-called veterans charities even though it’s going to cost money I don’t have to renovate my house for the wheels.

      • Denise Williams says:

        I’ve worked with a couple organizations that have put in ramps, retrofitted houses for wheels, etc. If the powers that be here at TAH will chime in, they have my permission to share my email with you, and I’ll see if there are any connections I can make for you.

    • HMC Ret says:

      I bought a Moen faucet at HD last week. Saved $11 with my Veteran discount. Thankful that they do that for veterans, but wouldn’t cry if the discount weren’t available. I’m very, very thankful for every damn thing I get because I am a veteran. Ditto for my significant other, The Russian.

      FYI, you all know about the Veteran Choice Program? The VA is sending The Russian out in town for her primary care doctor b/c she can’t be seen in x# of days at the local VA. We both had the same VA provider, but she threw in the towel in less than a year. VA told her a month ago she would hear something in two days … still waiting. It will happen when it happens. Fortunately she is in great shape. Has slightly elevated cholesterol but otherwise, perfect health. Wish I could say the same for myself.

  8. SFC D says:

    Can I get myself set up as a non-profit charity, solicit donations, and pocket them? It’s my charity, intended to support me, and potential donors will be made aware of that. Might be lucrative.

    • Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

      The trick is to set up a non-profit and donate some of the proceedings while paying yourself a nice fat salary and using the other funds for “additional fund raising expenses” then you can donate less than half of what you collect and at least be in compliance with the laws around charities.

      • SFC D says:

        I don’t intend to donate any of it to anyone. Donors will receive my personal, hand written thanks with the assurance that none of the funds will be spent on anything but my own interests.

      • Sounds like I need 3 jars, donate, additional fund raising expenses, salary. Ok now break down per dollar, $.10 for donations, $.60 salary, $.30 expenses. Say you raise $10,000 a month, $6,000 salary, $1,000 donated, leaves $3,000 for expenses,um, utilities $500, fund raiser (BBQ in back yard)$200, leaves $2,300, oh crap I forgot employ wages (me)$2,300. Yep I think I could scrape by on that.

        • Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

          That’s exactly how one could do it, were one to have no soul and not mind exploiting veterans and decent folk to make a buck.

          Which is where a lot of these so called bullshit charities operate…very little money into programs and quite a bit of money raising more money and paying the staff…

          I think some of these guys learned this from the televangelist crowd who are also very good at separating decent, unsuspecting folks from their hard earned income.

      • timactual says:

        Ever notice how many celebrities and “retired” political hacks start their own foundations, charities, and “public interest” groups? Why support an existing group like the Salvation Army when you can get lots of publicity, maybe a little money, and certainly a big ego stroke by starting your own.

        • HMC Ret says:

          “…the televangelist crowd who are also very good at separating decent, unsuspecting folks from their hard earned income.”

          These people are shit. I typically get to sleep 0400-0600, so scan the channels for fun. So many of these ‘people’, right before they come on stage, got a message from God that each viewer should plant a seed of X$ and God will make that seed grow for the donor. They should be expecting a fat check in their mailbox, directly from an unnamed source but sanctioned by God, to show that their seed has grown. Pure shit. I’ve never heard one of these turds say where they are putting the money they raise, such as clinics, water wells (a major problem in some nations), schools, etc. One of these ‘men of God’ now wants a ton of bucks for a jet. Don’t know why else he would need a new jet when he has one now at his disposal. Fuck them. And fuck any charity, for veterans or otherwise, whose only intent is to rip off honest people trying to help those in need, the disadvantaged.

  9. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    I got a kick out of those last few paragraphs in the piece, regarding suicides. The VA opened its doors to OTHs for suicide prevention counseling and, nationwide, 115 people showed up and 25 of them were from San Diego. Must have been giving away gift bags there or something.

  10. 2/17 Air Cav says:

    Horse. Cart. Cart. Horse. Maybe if Onan (WTF?) stopped using cocaine, his world would get rosier.

  11. SgtM says:

    The VA told me I made too much money and that I needed to get my own insurance ( I was unemployed at the time). I did get registered for the Camp Lejeun toxic water deal. Basically my guts need to be melting and cancer needs to be eating me up, to get treated. I just pay for my own stuff. I guess if I snorted cocaine and felt sorry for myself all the time I would be a priority to the VA.

    • I heard that too much income fact from a nurse at civ hospital here as to her husband and the VA.

      • David says:

        Can confirm, wife was turned down for the same reason despite 4 years honorable service. And though I am now retired, they base the decision on your W2, so it will be 2020 before she can realistically get in.

        • timactual says:

          ” despite 4 years honorable service.”

          Where on Earth did you get the idea that wearing a uniform for a few years entitles anyone to have me pay their medical expenses for the rest of your life?

    • On the flip side it may be a good thing for you, finally went to VA after much prodding by another Vet about 10 years ago. went through the physical in which I only seen 2 Dr.s, eye doctor and X-ray. last stop was interview and report by PRN. After some discussion we got to the subject of Agent Orange and PTSD, mind you I am fully dressed and even had jacket on as was cold outside. Nurse tells me to stand up and turn around so I did, she then tells me I do not have either Agent Orange or PTSD and that the base I was at never had any use of Agent Orange. Boy the wonders of modern science. Oh check the map for A/O. Big red dot on 3 bases and one was where I was.

    • timactual says:

      You would also be a higher priority if your problem(s) was service-connected. Sorry to sound uncaring, but pay for your own damn medical care like the rest of us and stop whining.

      ww.va.gov/healthbenefits/resources/publications/hbco/hbco_enrollment_eligibility.asp

  12. Ex-PH2 says:

    I’m going to start my on vet service org. I need a chiropractor/masseux who looks like a young Albert Finney, and a housekeeper so I don’t have to do that stuff. Also, I want new hiking boots, ballet slippers, a new car, and a pony.

    I will put my GoFundMe begging spot as soon as I get around to it, maybe this week.

    I don’t understand any of this. None of these groups ever contact me about anything, but I’m on the mailing list for every funeral home in the northeastern corner of the state.

    • Skyjumper says:

      I feel your pain, Ex-PH2.

      At age 50: Started receiving AARP mail.

      At age 60: Started receiving mail about hearing aides and life insurance.
      (Thank you Alex Trebet)

      At age 65: Started receiving mail about Rascal Mobility Scooters & cemetery plots.

      Just recently turned 70, so I stand by daily at my rural box waiting for the mail lady to see what the next level of offerings are.

      Never an offer of a young lady (in a french maid outfit) to dust my house.

      Never an offer of a young lady to cut my lawn wearing a bikini.

      Never an offer of a young lady wearing just an apron to cook my meals.

      Am I doing something wrong or do I need to contact one of these Veteran Charities groups to fill in the gaps?

      Till then, I guess I’ll just have to cook my own damn eggs, clean my own hovel, and mow my own frickin’ lawn ….wearing blue jeans. Sigh.

    • OWB says:

      The VA obviously has departments that do not talk to each other. I get double mailings from them about all sorts of things. They send one set to me as a vet, and a second set as the surviving spouse of a vet. Some of it is actually rather disturbing because occasionally, the deceased spousal unit still gets a mailing from the VA.

      Some years ago we signed up, or tried to, just in case we ever needed to be in the VA system. The spousal unit went through without fanfare but mine did not. Small matter that our military service pretty much paralleled each other and that we drew hazardous duty pay for the same duration for the same locations.

      Maybe several of us could form a “charity” together and simply pass the funds around? Might work. Except that few of us would consider it an honorable way of doing business.

  13. 26Limabeans says:

    Just heard a public service ad on the radio.
    They kept saying “resource family”. Never heard that term before. Took a while before I figured it out. They didn’t mention veterans but it won’t be long before even the term veteran will be subject to newspeak.

  14. SgtBob says:

    One day my wife got a call from some organization saying it needed help to support disabled veterans. My wife replied, “I am taking care of my own, thank you.”

  15. 5th/77thFA says:

    Got my Drivers License free from the state. Other than that NADA. Skyjumper, when Miss Thang is finished at your place, send her to my hooch, I got cold beer and brown liquor.

    • Skyjumper says:

      Won’t be for awhile, 5th/77thFA.

      I got plenty of things for her to do, like draw baths, get on tall ladders dusting…while I look up and supervise, picking up quarters on the floor that I accidentally keep dropping, etc.. (smile)

      • 5th/77thFA says:

        Bad dog, no biscuit! Just as well, by the time they get finished with Dave Hardin”s and your place, they may be “damaged goods” or possibly “soiled doves”. Be ye careful, as Dave says, they make him “do things.” (grin)

  16. JimmyB says:

    Reminds me of the Bureau of Indian Affairs. One day an employee was crying and extremely upset; his supervisor asked why – he said, “my Indian died”

  17. AW1Ed says:

    Petty’s Garage Warrior Edition Ford F-150 being auctioned to help paralyzed veterans

    charity truck

    A truck built for America’s warfighters will be auctioned this month to help wounded ones.

    Petty’s Garage, the custom shop run by NASCAR legend Richard Petty, has designed a special Warrior Edition Ford F-150 to be sold through Military Auto Source exclusively to active duty members of the U.S. Armed Forces.

    The powerful pickup is powered by a 750 hp supercharged 5.0-liter V8 that breathes through a cat back Magnaflow dual exhaust with side pipes.

    The crew cab truck features a two-inch front leveling kit, Fox Racing shocks, flared fenders, 20-inch off-road wheels and a unique hood. Bed decals finish the look with a splash of The King’s iconic Petty Blue.

    Pricing for the production trucks has not yet been announced, but the first one will be offered at the Barrett-Jackson auction in Las Vegas on September 27, with all of the proceeds earmarked for the Paralyzed Veterans of America organization.

    Fox News Link

    • Mason says:

      That’s pretty cool. It’ll be pricey, and with the exception of single dudes straight back from a sandbox deployment not many will be able to afford it.

      Unless Petty’s getting into the “no money down, no credit” car sales business just outside a base’s gate.

  18. timactual says:

    Not a day goes by that I do not stand in awe and amazement at the “Greatest Generation”, who managed to get through not one but TWO wars (everyone forgets the Korean War) without dissolving into a helpless and hopeless mob of PTSD “survivors”, unable to function without government benefits and a large helping of “poor baby”.

    Got nightmares, an exaggerated startle reflex, etc.?
    Take two of these and call me in the morning;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc7ehb8agWY

  19. Green Thumb says:

    “Other-than-Honorable” Discharge = Shitbag.

  20. 100E says:

    Without all those charities, how will the Food Service Specialist purchase her PTSD dog?

  21. OldManchu says:

    It was 5 years after my ETS until i experienced “will all veterans in the crowd stand up.” I sat there teady to watch in awe of some world war 2 / korea / vietnam veterans stand up. Then my wife slapped my arm and said “stand up that means you.” I was like “no thats the war guys.” My my how things have changed.

  22. Frank says:

    The big question for all of these “charities” is, “how much do you spend on management costs?”
    Anything more than “nothing” is robbing from the poor box.
    Time was good, high achieving, people ran charities out of public Duty. Now it’s a career choice. Still, the Clinton Crime Foundation is still the gold standard for charity fraud ( See Charles ORTEL)

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