This ain’t the 60s, Cindy

| March 7, 2009

I found this at IVAW Actions about Cindy Thomas, an Army wife who opened “Under the Hood”, an IVAW “coffeehouse” that sprang from the coffeehouse plot of VVAW in the 60s to undermine military authority and help facilitate an end to the Vietnam War.

Now, I’m not going to demean the sacrifice that Cindy Thomas has already made, but if that’s the excuse she’s going to use to undermine order and discipline in the Army, she really needs a dose of reality. Yes, her husband was injured. Yes, her step-son VOLUNTEERED to join the Marines – but they’re all making their own respective choices to fight this war – they’re not being drafted and force to participate. It’s not the 60s, Cindy.

The title of the post is “New cafe a refuge for dissent”. Dissent of what? Cindy – look at your husband. Do you think he’d want you to facilitate dissent in the Volunteer Army? If he’d come home from work and complained about some “dissenting” soldiers in his unit, what would you have thought of them? What would your husband have thought of them?

By encouraging dissent among volunteer military members, you’re causing more deaths in this war because dissent makes them unreliable in combat. You might as well strap on a bomb vest, pick up an AK and wrap a head scarf around your head and attack the Fort Hood Rod and Gun Club (the only place to go to get a decent meal and a beer on Hood as far as I remember from my years there).

Wouldn’t it be easier to to join Soldiers Angels and actually do something supportive for the soldiers instead of something completely destructive? Besides, you’ll lose your ass if you think you’ll be able stay open on what those derelicts will spend on coffee.

Category: Antiwar crowd, Iraq Veterans Against the War, Liberals suck, Phony soldiers, Veterans For Peace/VVAW

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  1. Does she think that she will do good with this hippy stopover? In Killeen, Texas? She must have a lot of personal money stashed for this donation to losers that she is financing. I just don’t see something like this as profitable, even in Berzerkely. In Killeen, Texas??????
    nuf sed

  2. Caroline says:

    I’d rather drink with the pregnant chicks and strippers at the Starlight Station than sit in the same room as anyone that would frequent her establishment!

  3. “Besides, you’ll lose your ass if you think you’ll be able stay open on what those derelicts will spend on coffee.

    She’s probably receiving backing from Soros or one of his surrogate minions

  4. tankerbabe says:

    Well, well, well. I just may have to pay a visit to Cindy’s shop next weekend. Gonna be in Killeen.

  5. streetsweeper says:

    Want some back up, tankerbabe? I’m not all that far away.

  6. streetsweeper says:

    Another thought could be, VFP financed her operation? Via the TIDES Center……

  7. tankerbabe says:

    Heck yeah streetsweeper. I’ll email Jonn and he can forward to you. Roger?

  8. streetsweeper says:

    roger that, tankerbabe! *Duck* woman….you got incoming! And I don’t mean the IVAW……


  9. BohicaTwentyTwo says:

    So her husband suffered multiple fractures to his spine and pelvis, collapsed lungs and a brain injury in his second tour and then went back for a THIRD tour? This man is a machine! Shame about his wife though.

  10. Carl Webb says:

    In some respects, Under The Hood is a reincarnation of the Oleo Strut, one of the most vibrant of the GI coffee houses that sprang up in the 1960’s as active duty soldiers organized in resistance to the US war in Indochina and in opposition to the use of soldiers to thwart civil rights and antiwar demonstrations in the US. As described in the history of the Oleo Strut documented by Thomas Cleaver and posted on the Under The Hood website, one of the most awesome acts of resistance by GIs during the Vietnam war was launched from Ft. Hood when 43 decorated African-American GIs refused to board planes destined for the Great Lakes Naval Training Center where they were to be used as backup for Chicago police against demonstrators at the 1968 Democratic National Convention. The Oleo Strut had opened just a month prior, taking its name and purpose from a mechanical part on a helicopter that functions as a shock absorber. The Oleo Strut distributed its own GI newspaper, “The Fatigue Press,” and became a beehive of activity where soldiers could hang out, organize and mingle in a supportive atmosphere with civilians. The coffee house also hosted poets and musicians, including the renowned Pete Seeger and the as-yet-unknown 16-year old Stevie Ray Vaughn and his blues band.

  11. Under The Hood does a lot of hard work getting medical care for Soldiers. I think people need to understand that they do not talk Soldiers into going AWOL. If they used heavy-handed tactics, I would nto support them. But they do in fact have my whole support. Carl, shut your mouth. You don’t donate, help out in any way, and don’t have the courage to do anything but run and type on your keyboard. Carl Webb does NOT speak for Under The Hood Cafe.

  12. OldTrooper says:

    Casey, you and I already have gone around on this and you know my thoughts on what this place provides, which is a safe haven for cowards, which makes them an accomplice, no matter how much pixie dust you sprinkle on it.

  13. UpNorth says:

    “One of the most awesome acts of resistance”? 43 soldiers refused orders? Wow, maybe you’d care to tell us how many soldiers did go to Chicago, Carl? I think if you check, the number of active duty soldiers who deployed was 7,500. And 7,500 National Guardsmen. So, you laud the accomplishments of 43? And they were all decorated? With what, the National Defense Service Medal?